R-W'ers' hatred of Obama unabated even in his last year in office

[Correll]

We had an INTERNAL Free Market to ensure competition between Americans, and tariffs against foreign competitors.

And we grew to be the world's largest economy.

We had an agrarian economy and survived off of tobacco and firs

The marketplace was very limited

"Free market" means the government didn't interfere. The fact that our economy wasn't industrial yet is a result of the fact that it takes time for industry to develop. It doesn't spring up miraculous from the ground the instant you get government out of the way.

All you ever prove with your posts is what a colossal dumbass you are.

There was no government capable of interfering. The market for our goods was extremely limited and anything but free

I love when conservatives try to attribute their agenda to the founders. Makes them look like desperate fools

Modern Conservatives does incorporate the Age of Enlightenment philosophy of the FOunders, while modern "liberals" do not.

ONe of the easiest ways to see this is to ask a conservative and a "liberal" if they believe the Rights are God Given/Inherent, or granted by the State.

LIberals generally get side tracked by their knee jerk opposition to anything Christian, but if you can spend a few days getting them back on topic, believe Rights are granted by the Government, not Inherent.

Conservatives agree with the founders, that they are God Given, or Inherent.

You overstate our founders views that God was the source of rights.They knew that if you wanted rights you had to seize them

Thank you for proving what I just said.

You had to knee jerk against the Christian aspect of my post, even though I clearly stated that you would do that, AND you deny the Inherent nature of Rights, which is a core aspect of Enlightenment Era Philosophy.

THus, the Founders and conservatives are on one side of this very important basic point, and you libs and pre-enlightenment thinkers are on the other side.

Did you ever read the UN Declaration of Human RIghts?


Here's how it opens..


"Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world,"




That was back in 1948, before you libs abandoned your Liberalism.

 

[Correll]

You overstate our founders views that God was the source of rights.They knew that if you wanted rights you had to seize them

NO other source in trampling civil rights is more apparent..... that religious zealotry. Have conservatives forgotten Sharia Law?

That you for further demonstrating my point, that you libs are opposed to conservatives and our founders on this very important point.

Also, it is utterly ridiculous to equate believing in the Inherent Nature of Human Rights with Religious Zealotry.

 

[Correll]

I love when conservatives try to attribute their agenda to the founders. Makes them look like desperate fools

There is one aspect of right wingers' proclivities (were they allowed to do so) that match the Founders':

while the fathers of our nation were writing our Constitution and fighting for our liberty, they did, in fact, have hundreds of human beings that were listed in their account books as personal property and worked for them as slaves. George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and Patrick Henry were all slave-owners.

As Freud once stated (or quipped)....."sometime a cigar is just that......a cigar."

Your Race Card smear was very obvious. I stand by my response.

 

[JQPublic1]

I love when conservatives try to attribute their agenda to the founders. Makes them look like desperate fools

There is one aspect of right wingers' proclivities (were they allowed to do so) that match the Founders':

while the fathers of our nation were writing our Constitution and fighting for our liberty, they did, in fact, have hundreds of human beings that were listed in their account books as personal property and worked for them as slaves. George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and Patrick Henry were all slave-owners.

Obviously that sign does NOT apply here on an anonymous board!

 

[nat4900]

Here's how it opens..


"Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world,"

Ergo, based on the above.....you have conservative candidates advocating the expulsion of millions, building a "beautiful wall", and carpet bomb indiscriminately.......
Well, so much for "the inalienable rights of all members of the human family", don't you think?

 

[Correll]

R-W'ers' hatred of Obama unabated even in his last year in office


They just can't bring their racist, elitist asses to pat a black man on the shoulder and say good job when warranted....

grow up. its not about race and never was. its about his liberal socialist hate-America ideology. it has nothing to do with him being half blackj

Oh, I am so glad you said that it is not about race. Millions of Americans thought so;but, I guess you cleared that up. Gee you are a wizard....

You think that white Mrs. Hillary will get a nicer reception if she wins?

 

[Correll]

I love when conservatives try to attribute their agenda to the founders. Makes them look like desperate fools

There is one aspect of right wingers' proclivities (were they allowed to do so) that match the Founders':

while the fathers of our nation were writing our Constitution and fighting for our liberty, they did, in fact, have hundreds of human beings that were listed in their account books as personal property and worked for them as slaves. George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and Patrick Henry were all slave-owners.

Obviously that sign does NOT apply here on an anonymous board!

And yet you libs keep trying.

 

[JQPublic1]

Are you denying the fact that they were white Christian males?

What a stupid question....(as expected)...Sure, they were white and males, BUT they specifically wanted to keep Christianity to be separate from governance. You're more stupid than usual.

The issue here is what non-white non-Christian immigrants have done to make this nation great. So far, none of you leftwing turds have been able to list anything.

Well, The Chinese invented gunpowder, which was used to wrest all this great land from the Indians. It also enabled colonialism and imperialism; both of which contributed to the "greatness" of the USA.

I asked what non-white non-Christian immigrants have done to make this nation great. Gun powder was invented in China by citizens of China.

Heck, I suppose the Chinese brought fireworks with them...How dull would the 4th of July be without that? heh heh heh!

Dr, Ben Carson revolutionized neurosurgery.

Vivian Thomas surgically solved the blue baby"syndrome even though he was not a doctor...( he lived at a time when people like you were everywhere so he never went to med school even though he trained many medical students in the process he pioneered.

People of all races fought in our major wars...can you give those who were non white some credit for helping to make and KEEP America great?

 

[Correll]

Here's how it opens..


"Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world,"

Ergo, based on the above.....you have conservative candidates advocating the expulsion of millions, building a "beautiful wall", and carpet bomb indiscriminately.......
Well, so much for "the inalienable rights of all members of the human family", don't you think?

My point that you specifically and liberals in general have moved away from the belief in Inherent RIghts stands.

While Conservatives have NOT.

Thus our "claim" to the Founders is valid, while yours is not.

Your attempt to derail the discussion is not a defense but an attempted distraction.

If you want to start another thread on that I will be happy to give you information you can ignore on the above specific examples.

 

[JQPublic1]

I love when conservatives try to attribute their agenda to the founders. Makes them look like desperate fools

There is one aspect of right wingers' proclivities (were they allowed to do so) that match the Founders':

while the fathers of our nation were writing our Constitution and fighting for our liberty, they did, in fact, have hundreds of human beings that were listed in their account books as personal property and worked for them as slaves. George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and Patrick Henry were all slave-owners.

Obviously that sign does NOT apply here on an anonymous board!

And yet you libs keep trying.

What Libs? I consider myself a REAL conservative who stands up for the president of the USA no matter what race he/she is? You haters have frequently shown more favoritism for the Russian leader, Putin! Why is that?
Libs or real conservatives don't do that!

 

[Redfish]

Here's how it opens..


"Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world,"

Ergo, based on the above.....you have conservative candidates advocating the expulsion of millions, building a "beautiful wall", and carpet bomb indiscriminately.......
Well, so much for "the inalienable rights of all members of the human family", don't you think?

the protections of the constitution only apply to American citizens, why is that so hard for you to grasp?

The USA constitution does not apply to every person on planet earth.

 

[rightwinger]

Here's how it opens..


"Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world,"

Ergo, based on the above.....you have conservative candidates advocating the expulsion of millions, building a "beautiful wall", and carpet bomb indiscriminately.......
Well, so much for "the inalienable rights of all members of the human family", don't you think?

My point that you specifically and liberals in general have moved away from the belief in Inherent RIghts stands.

While Conservatives have NOT.

Thus our "claim" to the Founders is valid, while yours is not.

Your attempt to derail the discussion is not a defense but an attempted distraction.

If you want to start another thread on that I will be happy to give you information you can ignore on the above specific examples.

Republicans give lip service to individual rights as they support voter restrictions, oppose the rights of gays, oppose worker protections

 

[nat4900]

My point that you specifically and liberals in general have moved away from the belief in Inherent RIghts stands.

While Conservatives have NOT.

Thus our "claim" to the Founders is valid, while yours is not.

So, having a good majority of the Founders being slave owners "supports" your contention that these founders were ALL for "inherent [human] rights"????........Lets look at the example of how conservatives view the Voting Rights Act.

 

[nat4900]

the protections of the constitution only apply to American citizens, why is that so hard for you to grasp?

The USA constitution does not apply to every person on planet earth.

Take it up with the poster that cited the U.N. Charter.

 

[bripat9643]

I love when conservatives try to attribute their agenda to the founders. Makes them look like desperate fools

There is one aspect of right wingers' proclivities (were they allowed to do so) that match the Founders':

while the fathers of our nation were writing our Constitution and fighting for our liberty, they did, in fact, have hundreds of human beings that were listed in their account books as personal property and worked for them as slaves. George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and Patrick Henry were all slave-owners.

Obviously that sign does NOT apply here on an anonymous board!

And yet you libs keep trying.

What Libs? I consider myself a REAL conservative who stands up for the president of the USA no matter what race he/she is? You haters have frequently shown more favoritism for the Russian leader, Putin! Why is that?
Libs or real conservatives don't do that!

You're a leftwinger, in other words.

 

[Redfish]

I love when conservatives try to attribute their agenda to the founders. Makes them look like desperate fools

There is one aspect of right wingers' proclivities (were they allowed to do so) that match the Founders':

while the fathers of our nation were writing our Constitution and fighting for our liberty, they did, in fact, have hundreds of human beings that were listed in their account books as personal property and worked for them as slaves. George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and Patrick Henry were all slave-owners.

Obviously that sign does NOT apply here on an anonymous board!

And yet you libs keep trying.

What Libs? I consider myself a REAL conservative who stands up for the president of the USA no matter what race he/she is? You haters have frequently shown more favoritism for the Russian leader, Putin! Why is that?
Libs or real conservatives don't do that!

Putin is a man and a leader who puts his country first. Obama is a pussy who is determined to destroy the USA. That is the difference.

Putin is a KGB thug, but we are talking about which of them is a real leader, Putin wins hands down.

But don't get excited, this is not saying that putin is a good person, a humanitarian, or anything else, but he is a leader.

 

[nat4900]

Republicans give lip service to individual rights as they support voter restrictions, oppose the rights of gays, oppose worker protections

....and please don't forget that in the right wingers' quest for "human rights"....they are giving them to corporations also.

 

[Redfish]

the protections of the constitution only apply to American citizens, why is that so hard for you to grasp?

The USA constitution does not apply to every person on planet earth.

Take it up with the poster that cited the U.N. Charter.

The UN has no authority, Not one country is bound by anything the UN does. Who gives a shit what the UN charter says, its not binding on anyone. The US constitution is binding on the US government and US citizens as well as any non-citizen who is here legally. Those here illegally are criminals.

 

[nat4900]

Putin is a man and a leader who puts his country first. Obama is a pussy who is determined to destroy the USA. That is the difference.

Putin is a KGB thug, but we are talking about which of them is a real leader, Putin wins hands down.

But don't get excited, this is not saying that putin is a good person, a humanitarian, or anything else, but he is a leader.

Given THAT "rationale" we had NO right to take out Saddam Hussein from Iraq. Thank you for clarifying that point.

 

[JQPublic1]

You think that white Mrs. Hillary will get a nicer reception if she wins?

Probably not.Those waters have yet to be tested since no woman has ever been elected president. Now , however, Obama is president and we know how the RW white male Taliban has expressed their seething hatred of him.