race baiting, tolerance & oppression vs the real world

[ScienceRocks]

It's pretty hard not to broad brush when talking about blacks. Truly, I do understand that not all of you are like this.

 

[ScienceRocks]

I think using the word "most" is accurate as 72% of black fathers leave. Do you agree?

 

[squeeze berry]

first tell us how whites are oppressing blacks and then tell us what can be more oppressive than murder, rape, robbery and asssault.

What's making the black population
-Murder at 5 times the white rate per capita?
-What's making the black father not give a damn
-What's making the black community so poor?

They all link together.

Why can't you leftist fuckers get a clue?

The answer is the template, set up after slavery, and Jim Crow...by the white majority/establishment. Did you really think you could enslave a people, rape, torture, and murder them, and it not have an effect on their psyches? And you want to sit, lecture and preach about responsibility to us. Hypocrites of the 1st order.

so it's because of slavery you are bipolar?

 

[LoneLaugher]

What's making the black population
-Murder at 5 times the white rate per capita?
-What's making the black father not give a damn
-What's making the black community so poor?

They all link together.

Why can't you leftist fuckers get a clue?

The answer is the template, set up after slavery, and Jim Crow...by the white majority/establishment. Did you really think you could enslave a people, rape, torture, and murder them, and it not have an effect on their psyches? And you want to sit, lecture and preach about responsibility to us. Hypocrites of the 1st order.

so it's because of slavery you are bipolar?

I thought you and poet were done. You must be desperate for some attention.

 

[squeeze berry]

The answer is the template, set up after slavery, and Jim Crow...by the white majority/establishment. Did you really think you could enslave a people, rape, torture, and murder them, and it not have an effect on their psyches? And you want to sit, lecture and preach about responsibility to us. Hypocrites of the 1st order.

so it's because of slavery you are bipolar?

I thought you and poet were done. You must be desperate for some attention.

don't tell me..............

slavery is the reason for your manic depression too?

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Have black people ever been oppressed by white racists in this country?

How far back in history shall we go?

What does the question ask?

I understand the question I was asking for the parameters. Ever is a long time and of course there has been oppression. Only a dumbass would ask such a question.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Wow...See even slavery, oppression, racism...all of it can be explained away by white privledge. Blacks deserve it, thats why!

The world worked differently 200 years ago, closed. Everyone was enslaving everyone else, but that doesn't give you the right to single out only whites. The upper class also opressed the fucking lower class. Sadly that was the reality of the world throughout most of history.

Why can't blacks do their part and bring up children that create the environment that promotes their own betterment? Why is this my fault?


Did you know there were black slave owners in America(a lot of them)? Did you know that the first was black?
America?s first slave owner was a black man.

However, black slave owners continued to thrive in the United States.

By 1830 there were 3,775 black families living in the South who owned black slaves. By 1860 there were about 3,000 slaves owned by black households in the city of New Orleans alone.

Did you know that if it wasn't for the black man slavery wouldn't of happened or that the north had more slavery?


LiveLeak.com - First Slave owner in the US was black and more history they don't want you to know

Revisionist history.

What your taught in school is revisionist history. This comes straight from the census records of the time.

You really should educate yourself and not leave it up to public education.

And you're supposed to be intelligent. Or so you claim.

 

[IanC]

first tell us how whites are oppressing blacks and then tell us what can be more oppressive than murder, rape, robbery and asssault.

What's making the black population
-Murder at 5 times the white rate per capita?
-What's making the black father not give a damn
-What's making the black community so poor?

They all link together.

Why can't you leftist fuckers get a clue?

The answer is the template, set up after slavery, and Jim Crow...by the white majority/establishment. Did you really think you could enslave a people, rape, torture, and murder them, and it not have an effect on their psyches? And you want to sit, lecture and preach about responsibility to us. Hypocrites of the 1st order.

another one who thinks the effects of slavery are inherited, but not intelligence or behaviour.

even if it is black culture that is the problem, how can outsiders fix it? how can the occasional racist comment be more influential than all the loving and positive comments a black child hears in his home from the parents? oh wait......

 

[IanC]

I said, and I thought it was plain, that it existed in the minds of liberals and blacks.

You claim blacks get worse sentences than whites for the same crime. Do they also have the same criminal history? Do they both have the same access to adequate council?

If you can show that the two are exact in every aspect then your claim would hold water.

Read the article and you tell me

And I can cite an example of where statistics used incorrectly or created with important factors excluded can be used to further a political agenda.
Here it is...
There was a series of articles in the local paper here called "Driving While Black"...The writers set out to prove beyond a doubt that black drivers were stopped at a ( I love this convenient term) disproportionate rate than other racial groups.
The writers took samplings of arrests, the blanket term for issuance of a citation, and concluded that blacks were more likely to be stopped than members of other races.
Now, after the articles were printed, there were studies done independent of the police dept by an investigative reporter for one of the tv stations. That report discovered that the samplings used in the newspaper story were in parts of the city where members of minority races made up the vast majority of the residents. In other words, of course more blacks were stopped because more blacks lived there. The error was made in that the writers of the newspaper article took the stops and rated the percentage of the stops versus the entire population of the city!
The conclusion was that the newspaper had a story based on the complaints of black motorists and the editors decided to run with it. The writers were going to get their story no matter what. They in effect created news.
The TV station looked at the types of citations written. One might expect these were the typical hassle type stops for tail lights or head lights not operating or those little lights at the license plate, etc. No. Most of the traffic stops for black drivers were for moving violations that according to law would result in points on the license. Real stuff.
BTW, now that most police agencies have video and audio capability on the cars, the idea of Driving While Black is never mentioned any longer. Why? because there is a video record of every stop. The camera starts recording audio and video as soon as the officer turns on the blue lights. This system cannot be bypassed or disabled by the officer.

DOJ did an experiment on the Jersey Turnpike. it set up a radar camera and checked the pictures to identify the race of the speeder. turned out that blacks were stopped less than their rate of speeding, especially for excessive speeding. the results were not publicized because they didnt conform to what the govt wanted to find.

 

[ClosedCaption]

was was I denied a refi on my mortgage if I have white privelege?
why do I pay taxes?
have a job?
required to pay my bills?

where is all this white fucking privilege?

prove it exists
prove I oppressed anyone
prove you are being oppressed

saying stuff exists doen't prove it. That includes your so called proof.

Because white priviledge doesnt mean you get everything you want and for free asshole

thanks for admitting what
I have been saying all along, asshole.

Who's been saying the opposite? Your strawman?

 

[ClosedCaption]

Wow...See even slavery, oppression, racism...all of it can be explained away by white privledge. Blacks deserve it, thats why!

slavery was long ago
white privelege does not exist
racism does exist,but not to the extent you imagine it and there is always things like affirmative action, political correctness and others such as efforts to close the achievement gap to more than make up for it.

how do you know blacks are " oppressed" ?

where is the evidence?

Closed Caption is a perfect example of two things. Creating one's own reality to make himself comfortable in his beliefs.
The other is how racism on the part of blacks toward whites manifests itself. The belief that under every bed on every street corner there lies or stands a Caucasian that is a racist tormentor.
So steeped and convinced by this belief he convinces himself that his own self proclaimed victim status exonerates him from being labeled racist.
I once saw a panel discussion on television many years ago. In it were former mayor Sharon Pratt Kelly and others. The discussion was about race relations as to how blacks related to whites and the 'business of racism'..Of course the usual names Sharpton and Jackson were part of the discussion.
Kelly flat out said "they ( whites) owe us"..
Another man on the panel, who's name I cannot recall but I believe was the then leader of the Congress on Racial Equality, said "black people are not racist. They are angry!"...
Kelly is simply ignorant. She and people with like beliefs were raised to hate whites and have a chip on their shoulder. I dismiss ignorance.
This other guy is representative of that which we call the double standard perpetuated by the cloak of political correctness.

I have no idea what you are talking about. Tell me more about ppl who create their own reality to be comfortable in their beliefs. Coming from someone who just created a psychoanalsis of someone they dont know...I think it's super hilarious and ironic. Therapists call it "projection"...Project away

 

[ClosedCaption]

I said, and I thought it was plain, that it existed in the minds of liberals and blacks.

You claim blacks get worse sentences than whites for the same crime. Do they also have the same criminal history? Do they both have the same access to adequate council?

If you can show that the two are exact in every aspect then your claim would hold water.

Read the article and you tell me

And I can cite an example of where statistics used incorrectly or created with important factors excluded can be used to further a political agenda.

No you questioned THIS ONE. Cite examples why THIS one was used incorrectly. I'm not trying to hear how you know ALL dogs can talk because you saw ONE dog talk. Prove this one is wrong or continue to wear your tin foil hat

Here it is...
There was a series of articles in the local paper here called "Driving While Black"...

Cool story bro...except telling stories is not proof. I['m guessing you typed all that and think that is a substitute for proof. Its not...so save your "this one time at band camp" stories

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

The world worked differently 200 years ago, closed. Everyone was enslaving everyone else, but that doesn't give you the right to single out only whites. The upper class also opressed the fucking lower class. Sadly that was the reality of the world throughout most of history.

Why can't blacks do their part and bring up children that create the environment that promotes their own betterment? Why is this my fault?


Did you know there were black slave owners in America(a lot of them)? Did you know that the first was black?
America?s first slave owner was a black man.

However, black slave owners continued to thrive in the United States.

By 1830 there were 3,775 black families living in the South who owned black slaves. By 1860 there were about 3,000 slaves owned by black households in the city of New Orleans alone.

Did you know that if it wasn't for the black man slavery wouldn't of happened or that the north had more slavery?


LiveLeak.com - First Slave owner in the US was black and more history they don't want you to know

Revisionist history.

What your taught in school is revisionist history. This comes straight from the census records of the time.

You really should educate yourself and not leave it up to public education.

And you're supposed to be intelligent. Or so you claim.

Yep. Public education even teaches that Columbus was basically the first European to make it onto American shores. When the truth is they were here possibly thousands of years earlier. Public education covers the bare minimums at the most. At worst its a total failure. Like how they now portray how we stole the land from the native Americans. We didn't steal shit...we conquered JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER NATION DID in history.

 

[squeeze berry]

Because white priviledge doesnt mean you get everything you want and for free asshole

thanks for admitting what
I have been saying all along, asshole.

Who's been saying the opposite? Your strawman?

so then you haven't been pissing and moaning about slavery, oppression and white privilege?

 

[LoneLaugher]

How far back in history shall we go?

What does the question ask?

I understand the question I was asking for the parameters. Ever is a long time and of course there has been oppression. Only a dumbass would ask such a question.

And....have white people ever been oppressed by black racists in this country?

 

[squeeze berry]

What does the question ask?

I understand the question I was asking for the parameters. Ever is a long time and of course there has been oppression. Only a dumbass would ask such a question.

And....have white people ever been oppressed by black racists in this country?

are blacks being oppressed?

proof?

 

[squeeze berry]

Closed caption is a coward who wants to label the gop oppressive but then cant cite examples of policies that hold others back much less individual examples because individual examples would lead to personal scrutinyl

Oppression or the feeling of oppression is an opinion. One that obvisously you don't share. I cite examples and you opinion of the situation won't be the same. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist. That just mean we don't see things the same. So no, I can't to examples that would prove it to you, but to minorities it WOULD be proof. I can point to voter ID laws, throwing minorities off of the voter rolls, redlining by lenders for housing, self deportation, the dismissal of any racist since "Obama is the president" etc etc.

No doubt that you'll see all of those differently than I do. That's your opinion and minorities have theirs. Who are you to tell anyone what they feel is wrong?

whining about " oppression"

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

People are oppressed by their own lack of ambition and not much more

 

[squeeze berry]

Well by golly Gramps, why would you have more hurdles if you were black? Seems like an admission to me.

@ squeeze Oh and me having things. Is not a sign that oppression doesn't exist. I have a flat screen...what? Well that must mean oppression and racism doesn't Exist. Unless you can explain how a flat screen has anything to do with oppression. Having a computer obvisously means racism and oppression is gone right? Cmon don't be stupid or at least explain why having things has anything o do with racism and or oppression. Even a yoga instructor couldn't make that stretch.

oppression again

 

[squeeze berry]

Dummie. What racists do you know that hang out with, interact, and cajole with the objects of their hate? Do you think at the redneck bar, whites are laughing and guffawing with blacks and browns over beers? Hell, no.
You obviously are clueless to the definition of the word. And I don't hate a lot of blacks, who are actually "less racist" than many whites, but I avoid many, being a "classist" and an ideologue. Racism against whites avails us nothing. We learned long ago, to "adapt" and work around "white privilege".

Obviously you don't see the ridiculousness of my comment. When whites are accused of racism they claim the same thing you claimed which is they can't be racist they hang out with blacks.

Explain to me "white privilege".

Exactly what privileges does an average white man have that an average black man doesn't?

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whining about white privelege