Rand Paul pledges to force Hunter Biden vote if GOP backs Dem impeachment witnesses

[colfax_m]

If he is not removed from office, he will still be guilty, like Clinton still had his affair.

Hunter Biden has nothing to do with tramps trial.

Actually, the phone call about the BIDENS' activity is the REASON for the impeachment...

Why are you so against the American people finding out what REALLY happened, and WHY the phone call was made???

Well because the phone call was illegal and inappropriate. Tying ANY foreign aid to an investigation of a political opponent is illegal. Period.

Even if Biden were corrupt, asking a foreign government to interfere in a US election is illegal. And that’s why getting testimony from the Biden’s, or in relation to Crowdstrike, because both are irrelevant to the charges against Trump.

Now if the Bidens are called, and it’s exposed in the trial, as it was in the Congressional hearings, that the charges against the Bidens and the Crowdstrike originated as a Russian disinformation campaign and that there’s no evidence to support either charge, that can’t possibly be helpful to Trump.

In fact, it could turn public opinion further against Trump.

Plus now the Russians are hacking Burisma to help Trump, using the same methods and leaving the same electronic trail as the DNC hack.

And just when did Trump mention elections?

It’s just a coincidence that he was asking about someone running for president?

Im sure it had nothing to do with it. Total coincidence.

 

[bripat9643]

Actually, the phone call about the BIDENS' activity is the REASON for the impeachment...

Why are you so against the American people finding out what REALLY happened, and WHY the phone call was made???

The phone call was about a Russian media sourced conspiracy theory about Biden that subsequent investigative reporting has failed to confirm. You will find this threat from Rand Paul holds no terror. They have every intention of illustrating this was all based on Russian propaganda anyway.

You are forgetting that Barr and Durham can follow the money trail, and if the Bidens' stories don't jive than there is a perjury charge hanging over them.
Trump has every right to investigate suspected corruption, its in the law. The rationale' for delaying the transfer of money, is pertinent to the case.

Barr and Durham are going to find nothing just like everybody else. These "investigations' are being done to keep you guys in line supporting trump. trump authorized money to Ukraine in 2017-2018. He wasn't concerned about Burisma then. Hunter Biden had nothing to do with the phone call.

You are 100% correct that Barr and Durham may come up empty like the "UraniumOne Scandal".
If there was any kickbacks or money laundering and there is proof in the banks, then it could get interesting.
You need to admit that Hunter getting $83,000 a month as a board member of Burisma smells really bad.
Just imagine what the dems would be saying if it was Ivanka, Jarad, or Eric Trump getting $millions from foreign sources for no work.

Ivanka and Jared are getting large sums of money from foreign sources. No one cares.

What "foreign sources" are you talking about, shit bag?

 

[mudwhistle]

since this is all bullshit sideshow bob crap, it needs to be over. not once have they conducted themselves in an honest manner during this "process" and i'm all for these reindeer games coming to an end.

You dont think shady things were going on in the Ukraine?

That Hunter was actually hired for his expertise?

i fully believe there was crap going on that needs to be looked into. that's why trump made the comment.

look into it.

and look what the left has done with that comment?

but i would rather see them NOT mixed together if we're going to investigate. this dogpile of issues merely blurs the lines and makes it harder to push one area cause someone else brings up something unrelated and uses it like a bargaining chip and we're off to the land of bullshit politics for going on 2 decades.

I don't care how it's done. Call everyone. If you believe Trump is in the clear you have nothing to worry about. I dont believe the Bidens are interested in that.

great. so we now govern my trial and if you're innocent, you have nothing to fear. but we run EVERYTHING through courts and biased investigations.

what a wonderful way to live.

Innocent people are often times put through a trial. It's why we have a trial.

Democrats don't want a trial.....they want the Spanish Inquisition.

They have a coverup to conduct. They can't allow an outsider to stay in office that keeps ruining their rigged game.

Imagine how much money Trump has cost them already.
They can't launder any money.....they can't take their kickbacks from foreign governments....foreign aid in return for kickbacks. This is why so many of them are millionaires.

 

[Crepitus]

Well that's fucking stupid. What does Hunter Biden have to do with tRump's abuse of power and obstruction of Congress?

Well dumbass, jojo extorting Ukraine to protect his son when Burisma is being investigated AND the very real FACT that Hunter would lose his $3 million a year job. Would seem to be his incentive...would your father help you any way he could so YOU wouldn't lose all that money...let's see how honest you can get...ROTFLMFAO!

You know none of that is true, right? Just the BS you’ve been fed.

Hunter Biden isn’t on trial. Trump is. His testimony is irrelevant.

You mean all those emails, and texts stating such were simply manufactured out of thin air? But you have Biden protecting his sons involvement on tape. And you have the president of Ukraine saying he was not pressured, but YOU REFUSE to believe him....your side is insane along with being dishonest with the American voter!

Texts and messages stating what exactly? Burisma was not under any investigation by Shokin. He was protecting corrupt prosecutors. He prosecuted zero corruption cases in a country that was known for being rife with corruption. Somehow y’all have convinced yourself that Shokin was one of the good guys. He wasn’t. That’s the lie y’all keep telling.

Shall I destroy you completely or will this be enough to PROVE that you know nothing?...Decisions, decisions!...ROTFLMFAO

The Hill
Solomon: These once-secret memos cast doubt on Joe Biden's Ukraine story
View attachment 300181
Sep 26, 2019 · That story also alerted Biden's office that Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin had an active investigation of Burisma and its founder.

It's fake news from Soloman.

You aren't destroying anyone but yourself with that garbage.

 

[Crepitus]

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) sent a public warning shot on Monday night, saying that if Republicans support Democrats' impeachment witness requests then he will force votes during the trial on calling witnesses conservatives want to hear from.

"My colleagues can’t have it both ways. Calling for some, while blocking others," Paul tweeted referencing a Politico report on a similar private warning his gave GOP colleagues against supporting Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer's request that former national security adviser John Bolton testify.

"If we are going to give a platform to witnesses the Dems demand, I look forward to forcing votes to call Hunter Biden and many more!" Paul continued.

(Excerpt) Read more at

Rand Paul pledges to force Hunter Biden vote if GOP backs Dem impeachment witnesses
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I’ll be glad when this shit show is over with. It was all nonsense to start with and it still is.

Best scenario is the Senate calls for a vote for dismissal and it passes. The dems in the House then look like the petulant toddlers they are. It really is hard to believe grown adults acted the way they did due to their clear case of TDS.

Trump will have an asterisk after his name noting a do-nothing House led by the worst speaker in modern times led a full witch hunt because she is simply butthurt in the blood sport known as American politics.

The ones injured by this will be the dems. They already are. No one can trust them again. They have again proven they are not capable of being adult or governing responsibly. They must go.

Well that's fucking stupid. What does Hunter Biden have to do with tRump's abuse of power and obstruction of Congress?

Well dumbass, jojo extorting Ukraine to protect his son when Burisma is being investigated AND the very real FACT that Hunter would lose his $3 million a year job. Would seem to be his incentive...would your father help you any way he could so YOU wouldn't lose all that money...let's see how honest you can get...ROTFLMFAO!

It's not being investigated. It never happened.

Look outside the alternative facts circle. Get a dose of reality.

I repeat myself, simply because you are a lying dumb bastard!

The Hill
Solomon: These once-secret memos cast doubt on Joe Biden's Ukraine story
View attachment 300183
Sep 26, 2019 · That story also alerted Biden's office that Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin had an active investigation of Burisma and its founder.

Soloman is a proven liar. He's been fired for it a couple of times IIRC.

 

[bripat9643]

Well dumbass, jojo extorting Ukraine to protect his son when Burisma is being investigated AND the very real FACT that Hunter would lose his $3 million a year job. Would seem to be his incentive...would your father help you any way he could so YOU wouldn't lose all that money...let's see how honest you can get...ROTFLMFAO!

You know none of that is true, right? Just the BS you’ve been fed.

Hunter Biden isn’t on trial. Trump is. His testimony is irrelevant.

You mean all those emails, and texts stating such were simply manufactured out of thin air? But you have Biden protecting his sons involvement on tape. And you have the president of Ukraine saying he was not pressured, but YOU REFUSE to believe him....your side is insane along with being dishonest with the American voter!

Texts and messages stating what exactly? Burisma was not under any investigation by Shokin. He was protecting corrupt prosecutors. He prosecuted zero corruption cases in a country that was known for being rife with corruption. Somehow y’all have convinced yourself that Shokin was one of the good guys. He wasn’t. That’s the lie y’all keep telling.

Shall I destroy you completely or will this be enough to PROVE that you know nothing?...Decisions, decisions!...ROTFLMFAO

The Hill
Solomon: These once-secret memos cast doubt on Joe Biden's Ukraine story
View attachment 300181
Sep 26, 2019 · That story also alerted Biden's office that Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin had an active investigation of Burisma and its founder.

It's fake news from Soloman.

You aren't destroying anyone but yourself with that garbage.

How is his news any more fake than CNN's or the NYT's?

 

[bripat9643]

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) sent a public warning shot on Monday night, saying that if Republicans support Democrats' impeachment witness requests then he will force votes during the trial on calling witnesses conservatives want to hear from.

"My colleagues can’t have it both ways. Calling for some, while blocking others," Paul tweeted referencing a Politico report on a similar private warning his gave GOP colleagues against supporting Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer's request that former national security adviser John Bolton testify.

"If we are going to give a platform to witnesses the Dems demand, I look forward to forcing votes to call Hunter Biden and many more!" Paul continued.

(Excerpt) Read more at

Rand Paul pledges to force Hunter Biden vote if GOP backs Dem impeachment witnesses
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I’ll be glad when this shit show is over with. It was all nonsense to start with and it still is.

Best scenario is the Senate calls for a vote for dismissal and it passes. The dems in the House then look like the petulant toddlers they are. It really is hard to believe grown adults acted the way they did due to their clear case of TDS.

Trump will have an asterisk after his name noting a do-nothing House led by the worst speaker in modern times led a full witch hunt because she is simply butthurt in the blood sport known as American politics.

The ones injured by this will be the dems. They already are. No one can trust them again. They have again proven they are not capable of being adult or governing responsibly. They must go.

Well that's fucking stupid. What does Hunter Biden have to do with tRump's abuse of power and obstruction of Congress?

Well dumbass, jojo extorting Ukraine to protect his son when Burisma is being investigated AND the very real FACT that Hunter would lose his $3 million a year job. Would seem to be his incentive...would your father help you any way he could so YOU wouldn't lose all that money...let's see how honest you can get...ROTFLMFAO!

It's not being investigated. It never happened.

Look outside the alternative facts circle. Get a dose of reality.

I repeat myself, simply because you are a lying dumb bastard!

The Hill
Solomon: These once-secret memos cast doubt on Joe Biden's Ukraine story
View attachment 300183
Sep 26, 2019 · That story also alerted Biden's office that Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin had an active investigation of Burisma and its founder.

Soloman is a proven liar. He's been fired for it a couple of times IIRC.

Really? Can you document that claim?

 

[Crepitus]

You know none of that is true, right? Just the BS you’ve been fed.

Hunter Biden isn’t on trial. Trump is. His testimony is irrelevant.

You mean all those emails, and texts stating such were simply manufactured out of thin air? But you have Biden protecting his sons involvement on tape. And you have the president of Ukraine saying he was not pressured, but YOU REFUSE to believe him....your side is insane along with being dishonest with the American voter!

Texts and messages stating what exactly? Burisma was not under any investigation by Shokin. He was protecting corrupt prosecutors. He prosecuted zero corruption cases in a country that was known for being rife with corruption. Somehow y’all have convinced yourself that Shokin was one of the good guys. He wasn’t. That’s the lie y’all keep telling.

Shall I destroy you completely or will this be enough to PROVE that you know nothing?...Decisions, decisions!...ROTFLMFAO

The Hill
Solomon: These once-secret memos cast doubt on Joe Biden's Ukraine story
View attachment 300181
Sep 26, 2019 · That story also alerted Biden's office that Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin had an active investigation of Burisma and its founder.

It's fake news from Soloman.

You aren't destroying anyone but yourself with that garbage.

How is his news any more fake than CNN's or the NYT's?

The lies, obviously.

Duh.

 

[Kondor3]

...What actual crimes were committed by Trump? None...

Conspiracy to coerce an allied foreign head of state to dig up dirt on a domestic political opponent is a grave abuse of power.

That abuse of power is an impeachable offense at-law and he now stands impeached by the US House of Representatives.

That indictment is now about to be tried by the US Senate.

yet the D's can threaten to change war powers acts? they can threaten to IMPEACH 45 since the day he was sworn in and THIS TIME it's for a valid cause?

they are playing games with all this and as such, don't deserve the respect you're trying to give them. they are "playing dirty" to get what they want. nothing new, no. but then rand pauls reaction shouldn't be something new either. the D's had their chance to put in any witnesses they wanted before their vote. they're done. follow the process and stop trying to change it to IMPEACH 45 for something that's yet to have been proven he did.

we know what he said - yes. but intent was NEVER proven to make it what the D's said he was doing. speculation and I WANT IT I WANT IT is NOT a valid way to assign guilt.

Respect? They want Biden called to testify? If Trump did nothing wrong, what's the problem with a full exposure of what went on? Who do you think that will hurt or harm?

because trump is accused of using bidens situation to his advantage. so call in biden and see if trump was doing that, or see if there is valid reason to be concerned about their actions.

the left investigated trump for 2 years on less of a RUSSIA connection than we have info on biden money laundering "potential" crimes. to play it your way - if biden DIDN'T DO IT then he has nothing to fear and his testimony can implicate trump.

FULL EXPOSURE is NOT putting some witnesses to all this away because it doesn't suit your goal. if your goal is truth and/or justice; well stop cause this is politics. if even something close, then everyone needs to say what was happening.

HOWEVER - what i am saying is - the dems controlled what they could already. if they wanted testimony included, they had their chance. their trying to tell the rest how to do their job SO THEY GET WHAT THEY WANT is clearly what is happening.

follow documented processes, or shut the fuck up.

Did I say to call Biden to testify or didn't I? We are no longer dealing with members of political parties, we are dealing with cult members.

I said call everyone. I agree with what you are saying but yet you felt you had to call me out. It's like I questioned your god or something.

you replied. i replied back. did you want me to simply say "oh my god, you are so wise and all knowing. let me bask in your wisdom" instead?

ain't gonna happen.

while i said sure, call up biden, i superceded that with follow our process and stop making changes as we go to fit the feelz. that goes for both sides. the senate needs to hear what the D's have done. it's over for the D's effort and their trying to drive it STILL is a "party foul". their job is done. if true and they did it properly, then they should be fine.

if they're still trying to influence it, why?

i'm tired of the bullshit games. period. this certainly includes the ever changing rules the extremes love to do to again "fit their feelz".

drop your persecution complex. it looks like shit on you.

Iceberg----------> I would like to request that Condor and the rest of the Leftists on this board read the post that I quoted from Condor-)

Now then, during the impeachment trial, or any time during the run up to the 2020 election, WHEN the evidence comes out that the LAST administration which virtually EVERY Leftist Presidential candidate in the top 4 had something to do with; is proven to have CONSPIRED with foreign intelligence services to SPY on the Trump campaign, that these same people come forward, and DEMAND that their heroes be removed from any office they currently hold, and be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, including the messiah-)

Immaterial to whether Donald Trump conspired to coerce an allied foreign leader to dig-up dirt on a domestic political opponent using taxpayer money as grease.

 

[IM2]

There will be witnesses that are pertinent to the charges, each one has to be voted on, to appear.

If Hunter Biden testimony is pertinent, then he'll be voted on.
He is not on trial though, he also did not make an accusation against Trump that Trump is being charged with, Hunter has not been charged with anything illegal by our DOJ or by the Ukraine.


HOW can Hunters appearance even help Trump in his defense of his articles?

The manager's witnesses are pertinent, and necessary to figure out the truth.

The Senators will never vote on a circus......unlikely you'll get the 51 +, but go for it, for all I care, if the law allows it...... Nothing he can say can help Trump get off for his high crimes.... He really should prepare for a real defense of the charges instead of trying to use his impeachment trial to smear the Biden's..... he's acting like THE FIX IS IN for his acquittal, so why not just use the trial, to score some smearing points against his opponent's family....



Again, HOW can Hunter testifying help him get acquitted???

you can't have it both ways. period. the effort to do so in my mind anyway is the core drive for our divide. stop acting like your shit don't stink while bitching about a backed up sewer.

Of course Trump can have witnesses too, but they have to be pertinent to his charges.... Hunter can say nothing that helps trump... it's a witch hunt by the President, against Hunter... Hunter would be advised to not talk by his lawyer due to the gvt powered witch hunt by Trump...

AND THAT is precisely what Trump wants.... Hunter to plead the 5th, so Trump can use that, FOR HIS OWN PERSONAL GAIN.....which again, is illegal and cheating.

If the impeachment is based on Trump asking the Ukrainians about the Bidens' activities, then those activities are certainly pertinent...

BTW, what problem would the Bidens possibly have with testifying (and possibly clearing themselves), since Biden is running for President??? Refusing to do that (or pleading the 5th) will only make him look guilty to most voters...

There is no evidence he committed a crime and only in dictatorships can a president demand a testimony from someone with no facts. If Biden doesn't testify will only make him look guilty to you 30 percent loons.

OBTW, about your comment on crack dealers, white boys are the ones that control the wholesale distribution of all drugs.

 

[IM2]

If he is not removed from office, he will still be guilty, like Clinton still had his affair.

He'll still be accused, and then acquitted.

Trump acquittal will always be questioned because of the antics of McConnell.

 

[skews13]

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) sent a public warning shot on Monday night, saying that if Republicans support Democrats' impeachment witness requests then he will force votes during the trial on calling witnesses conservatives want to hear from.

"My colleagues can’t have it both ways. Calling for some, while blocking others," Paul tweeted referencing a Politico report on a similar private warning his gave GOP colleagues against supporting Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer's request that former national security adviser John Bolton testify.

"If we are going to give a platform to witnesses the Dems demand, I look forward to forcing votes to call Hunter Biden and many more!" Paul continued.

(Excerpt) Read more at

Rand Paul pledges to force Hunter Biden vote if GOP backs Dem impeachment witnesses
------------

I’ll be glad when this shit show is over with. It was all nonsense to start with and it still is.

Best scenario is the Senate calls for a vote for dismissal and it passes. The dems in the House then look like the petulant toddlers they are. It really is hard to believe grown adults acted the way they did due to their clear case of TDS.

Trump will have an asterisk after his name noting a do-nothing House led by the worst speaker in modern times led a full witch hunt because she is simply butthurt in the blood sport known as American politics.

The ones injured by this will be the dems. They already are. No one can trust them again. They have again proven they are not capable of being adult or governing responsibly. They must go.

The key word being witnesses.

Show me one piece of relevant evidence Hunter Biden has to add to the Trumps criminal behavior?

As far as the blood sport of American politics, it's Pelosi by knock out.

Nut it isn't Pelosi, or Biden on trial. Trump is, and the only evidence or witnesses allowed pertain to his removal for violating the office.

Good luck with the vote. There will be one for Ivanka Trump right after that one.

 

[Obiwan]

There will be witnesses that are pertinent to the charges, each one has to be voted on, to appear.

If Hunter Biden testimony is pertinent, then he'll be voted on.
He is not on trial though, he also did not make an accusation against Trump that Trump is being charged with, Hunter has not been charged with anything illegal by our DOJ or by the Ukraine.


HOW can Hunters appearance even help Trump in his defense of his articles?

The manager's witnesses are pertinent, and necessary to figure out the truth.

The Senators will never vote on a circus......unlikely you'll get the 51 +, but go for it, for all I care, if the law allows it...... Nothing he can say can help Trump get off for his high crimes.... He really should prepare for a real defense of the charges instead of trying to use his impeachment trial to smear the Biden's..... he's acting like THE FIX IS IN for his acquittal, so why not just use the trial, to score some smearing points against his opponent's family....



Again, HOW can Hunter testifying help him get acquitted???

you can't have it both ways. period. the effort to do so in my mind anyway is the core drive for our divide. stop acting like your shit don't stink while bitching about a backed up sewer.

Of course Trump can have witnesses too, but they have to be pertinent to his charges.... Hunter can say nothing that helps trump... it's a witch hunt by the President, against Hunter... Hunter would be advised to not talk by his lawyer due to the gvt powered witch hunt by Trump...

AND THAT is precisely what Trump wants.... Hunter to plead the 5th, so Trump can use that, FOR HIS OWN PERSONAL GAIN.....which again, is illegal and cheating.

If the impeachment is based on Trump asking the Ukrainians about the Bidens' activities, then those activities are certainly pertinent...

BTW, what problem would the Bidens possibly have with testifying (and possibly clearing themselves), since Biden is running for President??? Refusing to do that (or pleading the 5th) will only make him look guilty to most voters...

There is no evidence he committed a crime and only in dictatorships can a president demand a testimony from someone with no facts. If Biden doesn't testify will only make him look guilty to you 30 percent loons.

OBTW, about your comment on crack dealers, white boys are the ones that control the wholesale distribution of all drugs.

Actually, ANYBODY on trial can have their attorney supeona ANYBODY they think might have relevant information...

And if Biden chooses to ignore the supeona, the Senate can have him picked up by US Marshals and brought in...

(And BTW, "White Boys" aren't the only ones sitting in prison for dealing large quantities of drugs... Just ask El Chapo)...

 

[IM2]

If he is not removed from office, he will still be guilty, like Clinton still had his affair.

Hunter Biden has nothing to do with tramps trial.

Actually, the phone call about the BIDENS' activity is the REASON for the impeachment...

Why are you so against the American people finding out what REALLY happened, and WHY the phone call was made???

Well because the phone call was illegal and inappropriate. Tying ANY foreign aid to an investigation of a political opponent is illegal. Period.

Even if Biden were corrupt, asking a foreign government to interfere in a US election is illegal. And that’s why getting testimony from the Biden’s, or in relation to Crowdstrike, because both are irrelevant to the charges against Trump.

Now if the Bidens are called, and it’s exposed in the trial, as it was in the Congressional hearings, that the charges against the Bidens and the Crowdstrike originated as a Russian disinformation campaign and that there’s no evidence to support either charge, that can’t possibly be helpful to Trump.

In fact, it could turn public opinion further against Trump.

Plus now the Russians are hacking Burisma to help Trump, using the same methods and leaving the same electronic trail as the DNC hack.

So, in other words, the Democrats using the dossier, or any other foreign "assistance", to investigate Trump was illegal, yet the Democrats have been doing that since before Trump was elected...

When can we prosecute all of those criminal Democrats???

Never. You see, if the President of Ukraine had called trump and said that he found Americans in violation of the law, things are different. Nobody solicited foreign governments to investigate trump.

 

[Sandy Shanks]

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) sent a public warning shot on Monday night, saying that if Republicans support Democrats' impeachment witness requests then he will force votes during the trial on calling witnesses conservatives want to hear from.

"My colleagues can’t have it both ways. Calling for some, while blocking others," Paul tweeted referencing a Politico report on a similar private warning his gave GOP colleagues against supporting Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer's request that former national security adviser John Bolton testify.

"If we are going to give a platform to witnesses the Dems demand, I look forward to forcing votes to call Hunter Biden and many more!" Paul continued.

(Excerpt) Read more at

Rand Paul pledges to force Hunter Biden vote if GOP backs Dem impeachment witnesses
------------

I’ll be glad when this shit show is over with. It was all nonsense to start with and it still is.

Best scenario is the Senate calls for a vote for dismissal and it passes. The dems in the House then look like the petulant toddlers they are. It really is hard to believe grown adults acted the way they did due to their clear case of TDS.

Trump will have an asterisk after his name noting a do-nothing House led by the worst speaker in modern times led a full witch hunt because she is simply butthurt in the blood sport known as American politics.

The ones injured by this will be the dems. They already are. No one can trust them again. They have again proven they are not capable of being adult or governing responsibly. They must go.

I certainly hope Hunter Biden testifies. He has committed no crime, no corruption.

His testimony will prove how stupid Trump is and how foolish Republicans are for listening to Trump. How many elections do they have to lose because of Trump before they finally grow a brain?

 

[IM2]

There will be witnesses that are pertinent to the charges, each one has to be voted on, to appear.

If Hunter Biden testimony is pertinent, then he'll be voted on.
He is not on trial though, he also did not make an accusation against Trump that Trump is being charged with, Hunter has not been charged with anything illegal by our DOJ or by the Ukraine.


HOW can Hunters appearance even help Trump in his defense of his articles?

The manager's witnesses are pertinent, and necessary to figure out the truth.

The Senators will never vote on a circus......unlikely you'll get the 51 +, but go for it, for all I care, if the law allows it...... Nothing he can say can help Trump get off for his high crimes.... He really should prepare for a real defense of the charges instead of trying to use his impeachment trial to smear the Biden's..... he's acting like THE FIX IS IN for his acquittal, so why not just use the trial, to score some smearing points against his opponent's family....



Again, HOW can Hunter testifying help him get acquitted???

you can't have it both ways. period. the effort to do so in my mind anyway is the core drive for our divide. stop acting like your shit don't stink while bitching about a backed up sewer.

Of course Trump can have witnesses too, but they have to be pertinent to his charges.... Hunter can say nothing that helps trump... it's a witch hunt by the President, against Hunter... Hunter would be advised to not talk by his lawyer due to the gvt powered witch hunt by Trump...

AND THAT is precisely what Trump wants.... Hunter to plead the 5th, so Trump can use that, FOR HIS OWN PERSONAL GAIN.....which again, is illegal and cheating.

If the impeachment is based on Trump asking the Ukrainians about the Bidens' activities, then those activities are certainly pertinent...

BTW, what problem would the Bidens possibly have with testifying (and possibly clearing themselves), since Biden is running for President??? Refusing to do that (or pleading the 5th) will only make him look guilty to most voters...

There is no evidence he committed a crime and only in dictatorships can a president demand a testimony from someone with no facts. If Biden doesn't testify will only make him look guilty to you 30 percent loons.

OBTW, about your comment on crack dealers, white boys are the ones that control the wholesale distribution of all drugs.

Actually, ANYBODY on trial can have their attorney supeona ANYBODY they think might have relevant information...

And if Biden chooses to ignore the supeona, the Senate can have him picked up by US Marshals and brought in...

(And BTW, "White Boys" aren't the only ones sitting in prison for dealing large quantities of drugs... Just ask El Chapo)...

El Chapo was part of the distribution chain. He sold the cocaine to white run organized crime organizations. Biden won't have relevant information.

 

[skews13]

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) sent a public warning shot on Monday night, saying that if Republicans support Democrats' impeachment witness requests then he will force votes during the trial on calling witnesses conservatives want to hear from.

"My colleagues can’t have it both ways. Calling for some, while blocking others," Paul tweeted referencing a Politico report on a similar private warning his gave GOP colleagues against supporting Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer's request that former national security adviser John Bolton testify.

"If we are going to give a platform to witnesses the Dems demand, I look forward to forcing votes to call Hunter Biden and many more!" Paul continued.

(Excerpt) Read more at

Rand Paul pledges to force Hunter Biden vote if GOP backs Dem impeachment witnesses
------------

I’ll be glad when this shit show is over with. It was all nonsense to start with and it still is.

Best scenario is the Senate calls for a vote for dismissal and it passes. The dems in the House then look like the petulant toddlers they are. It really is hard to believe grown adults acted the way they did due to their clear case of TDS.

Trump will have an asterisk after his name noting a do-nothing House led by the worst speaker in modern times led a full witch hunt because she is simply butthurt in the blood sport known as American politics.

The ones injured by this will be the dems. They already are. No one can trust them again. They have again proven they are not capable of being adult or governing responsibly. They must go.

I certainly hope Hunter Biden testifies. He has committed no crime, no corruption.

His testimony will prove how stupid Trump is and how foolish Republicans are for listening to Trump. How many elections do they have to lose because of Trump before they finally grow a brain?

"Why did the Ukrainian Gas company give you all that money, Hunter?"

"I guess for the same reason Saudi Arabia gave Jared Kushner 1.5 billion dollars. Next question."

 

[mudwhistle]

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) sent a public warning shot on Monday night, saying that if Republicans support Democrats' impeachment witness requests then he will force votes during the trial on calling witnesses conservatives want to hear from.

"My colleagues can’t have it both ways. Calling for some, while blocking others," Paul tweeted referencing a Politico report on a similar private warning his gave GOP colleagues against supporting Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer's request that former national security adviser John Bolton testify.

"If we are going to give a platform to witnesses the Dems demand, I look forward to forcing votes to call Hunter Biden and many more!" Paul continued.

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Rand Paul pledges to force Hunter Biden vote if GOP backs Dem impeachment witnesses
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I’ll be glad when this shit show is over with. It was all nonsense to start with and it still is.

Best scenario is the Senate calls for a vote for dismissal and it passes. The dems in the House then look like the petulant toddlers they are. It really is hard to believe grown adults acted the way they did due to their clear case of TDS.

Trump will have an asterisk after his name noting a do-nothing House led by the worst speaker in modern times led a full witch hunt because she is simply butthurt in the blood sport known as American politics.

The ones injured by this will be the dems. They already are. No one can trust them again. They have again proven they are not capable of being adult or governing responsibly. They must go.

I certainly hope Hunter Biden testifies. He has committed no crime, no corruption.

His testimony will prove how stupid Trump is and how foolish Republicans are for listening to Trump. How many elections do they have to lose because of Trump before they finally grow a brain?

Joe Biden bragged about it. Hunter was paid $83,000/mo to work for a Ukrainian energy company at the same time Democrats were trying to destroy America's ability to produce energy.

Now the Democrats have created a new twist.....somebody (Russia...Russia...Russia) hacked that energy company's servers (Burisma)......course the claim was floated by the same firm (Crowd Strike) that claimed the DNC's servers were hacked by....you guessed it....Russia. Course the DNC wouldn't allow the FBI to look at their servers to prove the hack took place. We must just take their word for it.

How much are you folks willing to bet that the Dems will be talking about this at the next debate?

 

[bripat9643]

You mean all those emails, and texts stating such were simply manufactured out of thin air? But you have Biden protecting his sons involvement on tape. And you have the president of Ukraine saying he was not pressured, but YOU REFUSE to believe him....your side is insane along with being dishonest with the American voter!

Texts and messages stating what exactly? Burisma was not under any investigation by Shokin. He was protecting corrupt prosecutors. He prosecuted zero corruption cases in a country that was known for being rife with corruption. Somehow y’all have convinced yourself that Shokin was one of the good guys. He wasn’t. That’s the lie y’all keep telling.

Shall I destroy you completely or will this be enough to PROVE that you know nothing?...Decisions, decisions!...ROTFLMFAO

The Hill
Solomon: These once-secret memos cast doubt on Joe Biden's Ukraine story
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Sep 26, 2019 · That story also alerted Biden's office that Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin had an active investigation of Burisma and its founder.

It's fake news from Soloman.

You aren't destroying anyone but yourself with that garbage.

How is his news any more fake than CNN's or the NYT's?

The lies, obviously.

Duh.

No, that's not obvious.

What did he lie about?

 

[bripat9643]

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) sent a public warning shot on Monday night, saying that if Republicans support Democrats' impeachment witness requests then he will force votes during the trial on calling witnesses conservatives want to hear from.

"My colleagues can’t have it both ways. Calling for some, while blocking others," Paul tweeted referencing a Politico report on a similar private warning his gave GOP colleagues against supporting Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer's request that former national security adviser John Bolton testify.

"If we are going to give a platform to witnesses the Dems demand, I look forward to forcing votes to call Hunter Biden and many more!" Paul continued.

(Excerpt) Read more at

Rand Paul pledges to force Hunter Biden vote if GOP backs Dem impeachment witnesses
------------

I’ll be glad when this shit show is over with. It was all nonsense to start with and it still is.

Best scenario is the Senate calls for a vote for dismissal and it passes. The dems in the House then look like the petulant toddlers they are. It really is hard to believe grown adults acted the way they did due to their clear case of TDS.

Trump will have an asterisk after his name noting a do-nothing House led by the worst speaker in modern times led a full witch hunt because she is simply butthurt in the blood sport known as American politics.

The ones injured by this will be the dems. They already are. No one can trust them again. They have again proven they are not capable of being adult or governing responsibly. They must go.

I certainly hope Hunter Biden testifies. He has committed no crime, no corruption.

His testimony will prove how stupid Trump is and how foolish Republicans are for listening to Trump. How many elections do they have to lose because of Trump before they finally grow a brain?

"Why did the Ukrainian Gas company give you all that money, Hunter?"

"I guess for the same reason Saudi Arabia gave Jared Kushner 1.5 billion dollars. Next question."

When did Saudi Arabia give Jared Kushner $1.5 billion?