Rand Paul pledges to force Hunter Biden vote if GOP backs Dem impeachment witnesses

[LaDairis]

IF Hunter Biden pleads the 5th, the bogus "impeachment" stuff ends right there.

Hunter Biden would only plead the fifth if he had done something wrong, like received a KICKBACK of a US foreign aid package.

Democrats say Hunter "did nothing wrong." They would be proven wrong if Hunter takes the 5th....

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

The republicans are growing more and more ridiculous by the hour. Neither Hunter Biden nor his father had anything to do with this impeachment mess. The republicans strayed way long past policy differences with Democrats and Independents into fantasyland. I wish that the republicans would go back to the day when they were grown-ups. No reasonable adult would act like they are acting now.

This thread is gold, Jerry, gold! I'm saving some of these gems for later.

 

[The Purge]

And how long was he prosecutor while obonghole an Jojo were in charge of relations with Ukraine with a corrupt ambassador?

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Shokin was prosecutor general for a year. Zero prosecutions of corruption.

Have you heard of the diamond prosecutor case?

Funny you mention this as the prosecutor WAS NEVER PROSECUTED... But you knew that but are running out of bullshit!!!!

The prosecutor that was found with millions of dollars worth of diamonds, cash and Shokin’s passport without any explanation was never prosecuted. What does that tell you?

He was holding it for Hunter and Jojo Biden!....Easy andvtrue answer!

Prove it.

After you prove your IQ is over 50....waiting!

 

[colfax_m]

Shokin was prosecutor general for a year. Zero prosecutions of corruption.

Have you heard of the diamond prosecutor case?

Funny you mention this as the prosecutor WAS NEVER PROSECUTED... But you knew that but are running out of bullshit!!!!

The prosecutor that was found with millions of dollars worth of diamonds, cash and Shokin’s passport without any explanation was never prosecuted. What does that tell you?

He was holding it for Hunter and Jojo Biden!....Easy andvtrue answer!

Prove it.

After you prove your IQ is over 50....waiting!

You don’t have the slightest idea what you’re talking about, do you?

 

[The Purge]

Funny you mention this as the prosecutor WAS NEVER PROSECUTED... But you knew that but are running out of bullshit!!!!

The prosecutor that was found with millions of dollars worth of diamonds, cash and Shokin’s passport without any explanation was never prosecuted. What does that tell you?

He was holding it for Hunter and Jojo Biden!....Easy andvtrue answer!

Prove it.

After you prove your IQ is over 50....waiting!

You don’t have the slightest idea what you’re talking about, do you?

As I said...you can't prove your IQ is over 50!

 

[Obiwan]

If he is not removed from office, he will still be guilty, like Clinton still had his affair.

Hunter Biden has nothing to do with tramps trial.

Actually, the phone call about the BIDENS' activity is the REASON for the impeachment...

Why are you so against the American people finding out what REALLY happened, and WHY the phone call was made???

Separate matter altogether, and tramp is still guilty of strong arming a President to investigate or simply announce he is investigating his political rival, and then he asked China to do the same, and now I hear Russia is also hacking Burisma.

The congress has the power of the purse and he committed an offense against the Impound Control Act.

Ukraine got the money....

But the President has an OBLIGATION to make sure possible criminal activity is investigated...

So put the Bidens on the stand, and let's see if Trump's actions were justified...

His actions weren't justified and the Bidens have no reason to testify. It doesn't matter if Ukraine got the money, trump broke the law.

You know, impeaching Trump for asking Ukraine about possible criminal behavior by the Bidens is like the cops arresting YOU for asking them to investigate a crack dealer...

But even putting that aside, you would think Biden would be anxious to testify and clear his name, since he's running for President...
His refusal to do that also can be taken as an admission of guilt by a lot of voters!!!

 

[M14 Shooter]

If he is not removed from office, he will still be guilty, like Clinton still had his affair.

He'll still be accused, and then acquitted.

 

[colfax_m]

If he is not removed from office, he will still be guilty, like Clinton still had his affair.

Hunter Biden has nothing to do with tramps trial.

Actually, the phone call about the BIDENS' activity is the REASON for the impeachment...

Why are you so against the American people finding out what REALLY happened, and WHY the phone call was made???

Separate matter altogether, and tramp is still guilty of strong arming a President to investigate or simply announce he is investigating his political rival, and then he asked China to do the same, and now I hear Russia is also hacking Burisma.

The congress has the power of the purse and he committed an offense against the Impound Control Act.

Ukraine got the money....

But the President has an OBLIGATION to make sure possible criminal activity is investigated...

So put the Bidens on the stand, and let's see if Trump's actions were justified...

His actions weren't justified and the Bidens have no reason to testify. It doesn't matter if Ukraine got the money, trump broke the law.

You know, impeaching Trump for asking Ukraine about possible criminal behavior by the Bidens is like the cops arresting YOU for asking them to investigate a crack dealer...

But even putting that aside, you would think Biden would be anxious to testify and clear his name, since he's running for President...
His refusal to do that also can be taken as an admission of guilt by a lot of voters!!!

There is no predicate for an investigation into Biden. You have to have a reason to investigate someone, otherwise you’re violating their rights.

You can’t use law enforcement authority to harass your enemies.

 

[Dragonlady]

If he is not removed from office, he will still be guilty, like Clinton still had his affair.

Hunter Biden has nothing to do with tramps trial.

Actually, the phone call about the BIDENS' activity is the REASON for the impeachment...

Why are you so against the American people finding out what REALLY happened, and WHY the phone call was made???

Well because the phone call was illegal and inappropriate. Tying ANY foreign aid to an investigation of a political opponent is illegal. Period.

Even if Biden were corrupt, asking a foreign government to interfere in a US election is illegal. And that’s why getting testimony from the Biden’s, or in relation to Crowdstrike, because both are irrelevant to the charges against Trump.

Now if the Bidens are called, and it’s exposed in the trial, as it was in the Congressional hearings, that the charges against the Bidens and the Crowdstrike originated as a Russian disinformation campaign and that there’s no evidence to support either charge, that can’t possibly be helpful to Trump.

In fact, it could turn public opinion further against Trump.

Plus now the Russians are hacking Burisma to help Trump, using the same methods and leaving the same electronic trail as the DNC hack.

 

[Obiwan]

There will be witnesses that are pertinent to the charges, each one has to be voted on, to appear.

If Hunter Biden testimony is pertinent, then he'll be voted on.
He is not on trial though, he also did not make an accusation against Trump that Trump is being charged with, Hunter has not been charged with anything illegal by our DOJ or by the Ukraine.


HOW can Hunters appearance even help Trump in his defense of his articles?

The manager's witnesses are pertinent, and necessary to figure out the truth.

The Senators will never vote on a circus......unlikely you'll get the 51 +, but go for it, for all I care, if the law allows it...... Nothing he can say can help Trump get off for his high crimes.... He really should prepare for a real defense of the charges instead of trying to use his impeachment trial to smear the Biden's..... he's acting like THE FIX IS IN for his acquittal, so why not just use the trial, to score some smearing points against his opponent's family....



Again, HOW can Hunter testifying help him get acquitted???

you can't have it both ways. period. the effort to do so in my mind anyway is the core drive for our divide. stop acting like your shit don't stink while bitching about a backed up sewer.

Of course Trump can have witnesses too, but they have to be pertinent to his charges.... Hunter can say nothing that helps trump... it's a witch hunt by the President, against Hunter... Hunter would be advised to not talk by his lawyer due to the gvt powered witch hunt by Trump...

AND THAT is precisely what Trump wants.... Hunter to plead the 5th, so Trump can use that, FOR HIS OWN PERSONAL GAIN.....which again, is illegal and cheating.

If the impeachment is based on Trump asking the Ukrainians about the Bidens' activities, then those activities are certainly pertinent...

BTW, what problem would the Bidens possibly have with testifying (and possibly clearing themselves), since Biden is running for President??? Refusing to do that (or pleading the 5th) will only make him look guilty to most voters...

 

[Obiwan]

If he is not removed from office, he will still be guilty, like Clinton still had his affair.

Hunter Biden has nothing to do with tramps trial.

Actually, the phone call about the BIDENS' activity is the REASON for the impeachment...

Why are you so against the American people finding out what REALLY happened, and WHY the phone call was made???

Well because the phone call was illegal and inappropriate. Tying ANY foreign aid to an investigation of a political opponent is illegal. Period.

Even if Biden were corrupt, asking a foreign government to interfere in a US election is illegal. And that’s why getting testimony from the Biden’s, or in relation to Crowdstrike, because both are irrelevant to the charges against Trump.

Now if the Bidens are called, and it’s exposed in the trial, as it was in the Congressional hearings, that the charges against the Bidens and the Crowdstrike originated as a Russian disinformation campaign and that there’s no evidence to support either charge, that can’t possibly be helpful to Trump.

In fact, it could turn public opinion further against Trump.

Plus now the Russians are hacking Burisma to help Trump, using the same methods and leaving the same electronic trail as the DNC hack.

So, in other words, the Democrats using the dossier, or any other foreign "assistance", to investigate Trump was illegal, yet the Democrats have been doing that since before Trump was elected...

When can we prosecute all of those criminal Democrats???

 

[M14 Shooter]

Well because the phone call was illegal and inappropriate.

Unsupportable nonsense.

Tying ANY foreign aid to an investigation of a political opponent is illegal. Period.

Unsupportable nonsense.

Even if Biden were corrupt, asking a foreign government to interfere in a US election is illegal.

Fortunate, then, that Trump didn't do that.

 

[bripat9643]

Actually, the phone call about the BIDENS' activity is the REASON for the impeachment...

Why are you so against the American people finding out what REALLY happened, and WHY the phone call was made???

Separate matter altogether, and tramp is still guilty of strong arming a President to investigate or simply announce he is investigating his political rival, and then he asked China to do the same, and now I hear Russia is also hacking Burisma.

The congress has the power of the purse and he committed an offense against the Impound Control Act.

Ukraine got the money....

But the President has an OBLIGATION to make sure possible criminal activity is investigated...

So put the Bidens on the stand, and let's see if Trump's actions were justified...

His actions weren't justified and the Bidens have no reason to testify. It doesn't matter if Ukraine got the money, trump broke the law.

You know, impeaching Trump for asking Ukraine about possible criminal behavior by the Bidens is like the cops arresting YOU for asking them to investigate a crack dealer...

But even putting that aside, you would think Biden would be anxious to testify and clear his name, since he's running for President...
His refusal to do that also can be taken as an admission of guilt by a lot of voters!!!

There is no predicate for an investigation into Biden. You have to have a reason to investigate someone, otherwise you’re violating their rights.

You can’t use law enforcement authority to harass your enemies.

What was the predicate for investigating Trump?

 

[colfax_m]

If he is not removed from office, he will still be guilty, like Clinton still had his affair.

He'll still be accused, and then acquitted.

He’ll be the OJ of presidents.

 

[kyzr]

If he is not removed from office, he will still be guilty, like Clinton still had his affair.

Hunter Biden has nothing to do with tramps trial.

Actually, the phone call about the BIDENS' activity is the REASON for the impeachment...

Why are you so against the American people finding out what REALLY happened, and WHY the phone call was made???

The phone call was about a Russian media sourced conspiracy theory about Biden that subsequent investigative reporting has failed to confirm. You will find this threat from Rand Paul holds no terror. They have every intention of illustrating this was all based on Russian propaganda anyway.

You are forgetting that Barr and Durham can follow the money trail, and if the Bidens' stories don't jive than there is a perjury charge hanging over them.
Trump has every right to investigate suspected corruption, its in the law. The rationale' for delaying the transfer of money, is pertinent to the case.

Barr and Durham are going to find nothing just like everybody else. These "investigations' are being done to keep you guys in line supporting trump. trump authorized money to Ukraine in 2017-2018. He wasn't concerned about Burisma then. Hunter Biden had nothing to do with the phone call.

You are 100% correct that Barr and Durham may come up empty like the "UraniumOne Scandal".
If there was any kickbacks or money laundering and there is proof in the banks, then it could get interesting.
You need to admit that Hunter getting $83,000 a month as a board member of Burisma smells really bad.
Just imagine what the dems would be saying if it was Ivanka, Jarad, or Eric Trump getting $millions from foreign sources for no work.

 

[bripat9643]

If he is not removed from office, he will still be guilty, like Clinton still had his affair.

He'll still be accused, and then acquitted.

He’ll be the OJ of presidents.

Clinton already has that honor.

 

[iceberg]

If he is not removed from office, he will still be guilty, like Clinton still had his affair.

Hunter Biden has nothing to do with tramps trial.

Actually, the phone call about the BIDENS' activity is the REASON for the impeachment...

Why are you so against the American people finding out what REALLY happened, and WHY the phone call was made???

Well because the phone call was illegal and inappropriate. Tying ANY foreign aid to an investigation of a political opponent is illegal. Period.

Even if Biden were corrupt, asking a foreign government to interfere in a US election is illegal. And that’s why getting testimony from the Biden’s, or in relation to Crowdstrike, because both are irrelevant to the charges against Trump.

Now if the Bidens are called, and it’s exposed in the trial, as it was in the Congressional hearings, that the charges against the Bidens and the Crowdstrike originated as a Russian disinformation campaign and that there’s no evidence to support either charge, that can’t possibly be helpful to Trump.

In fact, it could turn public opinion further against Trump.

Plus now the Russians are hacking Burisma to help Trump, using the same methods and leaving the same electronic trail as the DNC hack.

And just when did Trump mention elections?

 

[Dragonlady]

If he is not removed from office, he will still be guilty, like Clinton still had his affair.

Hunter Biden has nothing to do with tramps trial.

Actually, the phone call about the BIDENS' activity is the REASON for the impeachment...

Why are you so against the American people finding out what REALLY happened, and WHY the phone call was made???

Well because the phone call was illegal and inappropriate. Tying ANY foreign aid to an investigation of a political opponent is illegal. Period.

Even if Biden were corrupt, asking a foreign government to interfere in a US election is illegal. And that’s why getting testimony from the Biden’s, or in relation to Crowdstrike, because both are irrelevant to the charges against Trump.

Now if the Bidens are called, and it’s exposed in the trial, as it was in the Congressional hearings, that the charges against the Bidens and the Crowdstrike originated as a Russian disinformation campaign and that there’s no evidence to support either charge, that can’t possibly be helpful to Trump.

In fact, it could turn public opinion further against Trump.

Plus now the Russians are hacking Burisma to help Trump, using the same methods and leaving the same electronic trail as the DNC hack.

And just when did Trump mention elections?

He mentioned elections in the phone call. He talked about Crowdstrike and the DNC, and asked the Ukranian government to help him find the server.

Asking for an investigation of Joe Biden, based on a provable lie, was illegal. There is an entire public record, both in Congress and in the history books, around the USA demanding the removal of the corrupt Ukrainian prosecutor.

They very people who are now asking for Joe Biden’s testimony, voted in favour of sending him to Kiev to fire the guy.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Asking for an investigation of Joe Biden, based on a provable lie, was illegal

Unsupportable nonsense.

 

[colfax_m]

If he is not removed from office, he will still be guilty, like Clinton still had his affair.

Hunter Biden has nothing to do with tramps trial.

Actually, the phone call about the BIDENS' activity is the REASON for the impeachment...

Why are you so against the American people finding out what REALLY happened, and WHY the phone call was made???

The phone call was about a Russian media sourced conspiracy theory about Biden that subsequent investigative reporting has failed to confirm. You will find this threat from Rand Paul holds no terror. They have every intention of illustrating this was all based on Russian propaganda anyway.

You are forgetting that Barr and Durham can follow the money trail, and if the Bidens' stories don't jive than there is a perjury charge hanging over them.
Trump has every right to investigate suspected corruption, its in the law. The rationale' for delaying the transfer of money, is pertinent to the case.

Barr and Durham are going to find nothing just like everybody else. These "investigations' are being done to keep you guys in line supporting trump. trump authorized money to Ukraine in 2017-2018. He wasn't concerned about Burisma then. Hunter Biden had nothing to do with the phone call.

You are 100% correct that Barr and Durham may come up empty like the "UraniumOne Scandal".
If there was any kickbacks or money laundering and there is proof in the banks, then it could get interesting.
You need to admit that Hunter getting $83,000 a month as a board member of Burisma smells really bad.
Just imagine what the dems would be saying if it was Ivanka, Jarad, or Eric Trump getting $millions from foreign sources for no work.

Ivanka and Jared are getting large sums of money from foreign sources. No one cares.