Rand Paul says vaccines can lead to "mental disorders."

[JakeStarkey]

Redfish has assumed his Fuckwit cloak of recognition to make sure we know he is being a fuckwit.

We are not talking about illegals, which is nothing but a deflection.

You have no moral right to put your children at risk, thus the rest of society have to pick the tab and worry for that risk.

 

[JakeStarkey]

As I said you libs suck at thinking. If the vaccine was not effective in your kid why are they in school posing a risk to others? lol

right. it's me that sucks at thinking.

which do you think is more likely to happen, an outbreak of a disease where 100% of the people were immunized with a 90% effective vaccine or an outbreak where 90% of the people are immunized with the same vaccine?

Apparently you people also suck at math, your question is well stupid. Again this other clown foamed at the mouth that an un-vaccinated kid posed a risk to his vaccinated kid. That would only be true if the vaccine was not effective in his kid, in which case his kid poses the same risk to others as the un-vaccinated kid...right...libs its not rocket science.

true. a kid who has been vaccinated but does not develop the antibodies is as much at risk as someone that has not been vaccinated.

of course, an unvaccinated child has a 100% chance of not having an immunity, whereas the vaccinated child's risk is much, much smaller.

so who is knowlingly putting others at risk, the kid who didn't develop an immunity from vaccination, or the kid who wasn't vaccinated?

and the math in my question was clear and easy - in the first scenario 90% of the people would have immunity to a disease. in the second, only 81%. Which community would you rather live in?

Don't help him out. There are three questions he obviously hasn't even considered questioning, let alone answering. Why is a vaccination generally not given in the first year of life (in the US)? Why are two vaccinations generally required in the US, and does merely one vaccination convey an immunity?

the medical details are not the issue. The issue is why are we having outbreaks of diseases that we had declared eradicated in this country years ago? any idea why that is, libs?

Stop the deflection, Fuckwit. The issue is you put your children and others at risk with your stupid philosophy.

 

[Dana7360]

So you believe that parents should only make that choice. If so, you are foolish.

so you are for mandatory vaccinations? how about mandatory abortions? mandatory sterilizations? limits on numbers of offspring? Maybe you should move to China.

False equivalence. Your line of logic is that the state can take your brain. Grow the fuck up. We the People through out legislators can make certain decisions. We don't live in a libertarian state, we never will.

are you for mandatory vaccinations? yes or no. if yes, would that apply to all who enter this country illegally?

yes. unequivocally yes.

so you would line the kids up at the school house door and vaccinate them? With or without parental permission?








Yes.

It was done that way for decades. The end result was that we eradicated some childhood diseases.

We were all lined up in the gym or cafeteria and everyone was vaccinated.

The only ones who weren't were those who were already vaccinated.

In all those years I didn't see anyone nor were there any reports in my area of children being harmed from a vaccine they got at school.

Are you saying that it's just fine with you for an unvaccinated child to spread a deadly disease to a baby who isn't old enough to be vaccinated yet? It's ok for that baby to die because a parent decided not to vaccinate?

Please tell all of us why that's ok with you.

 

[Dana7360]

It's threads like this that show how Intolerant libs are and just screams.....SNOB

it's like: how dare YOU think differently than they do...

of all things to pick on to call people stupid and ignorant, that is just none of their business for one and two they SUPPORT abortions on demand

so sit down with your Faux outrages

it's not about thinking differently. it's about choosing your own facts in defiance of reality and living in a fantasy world where vaccines are harmful - putting the rest of us at risk.

doing that makes someone an asshole at best.

if your kid is vaccinated he/she is not at risk. Try engaging your brain before typing

How selfish and conceited can you be?

Just because my child's protected doesn't mean it's ok for someone else's baby that's not old enough to be vaccinated to be exposed to a deadly disease and die because someone else didn't vaccinate their child.

You post as if something doesn't directly effect you, that's ok for it to kill someone else.

Gottcha.

 

[Political Junky]

Rand Paul joins Michele Bachman in this idiotic statement. Rand Paul belongs to a group that also says that HIV is not the cause of AIDS. He's an odd little thing.

 

[Dana7360]

It's threads like this that show how Intolerant libs are and just screams.....SNOB

it's like: how dare YOU think differently than they do...

of all things to pick on to call people stupid and ignorant, that is just none of their business for one and two they SUPPORT abortions on demand

so sit down with your Faux outrages

it's not about thinking differently. it's about choosing your own facts in defiance of reality and living in a fantasy world where vaccines are harmful - putting the rest of us at risk.

doing that makes someone an asshole at best.

if your kid is vaccinated he/she is not at risk. Try engaging your brain before typing

as i've posted earlier, that's simply not true.

so now you are saying that the measles, smallpox, mumps, chicken pox, etc vaccines don't work?

you are totally inconsistent on this topic.

You must not understand that babies don't get vaccinated at birth. You have to wait for a few months to start the vaccinations. Even then, some vaccinations aren't given until they're already in school.

All those kids from birth until they're old enough to be vaccinated aren't protected.

Have you ever been to a grade school where parents pick up their kids or at a school function? A lot of those parents have babies. Those babies aren't vaccinated because they're too young for it. So they're unprotected from the kids in that school who aren't vaccinated. Those babies can be exposed to diseases and then die because someone else decided not to vaccinate their kids.

Stop thinking about just yourself. You don't live alone on this planet. No one is exactly like you.

Just because you and your kids are protected doesn't mean the babies of other people are. They aren't because they're too young to be vaccinated.

 

[peach174]

Maybe the illegal kids started this measles outbreak.

If it had not been for parents being concerned about these vacations we would have never of found out about the mercury in them being used as a preservative.
Now parents have a choice to get vaccines without that mercury.
What else is in them that we don't know about?

 

[bendog]

Maybe the illegal kids started this measles outbreak.

If it had not been for parents being concerned about these vacations we would have never of found out about the mercury in them being used as a preservative.
Now parents have a choice to get vaccines without that mercury.
What else is in them that we don't know about?

Was thimerosal used in all childhood vaccines?

• No. Some other vaccines, including the measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine (MMR), do not and did not ever contain thimerosal or any preservative. Varicella (chickenpox), inactivated polio (IPV), and pneumococcal conjugate vaccines have also never contained thimerosal.

• 
  CDC - FAQ Thimerosal Ethylmercury - Vaccine Safety

 

[JakeStarkey]

Anti-vaxxer FuckWits. Get your kids vaccinated, yeah?

 

[JimH52]

Rand Paul Vaccines can lead to mental disorders - Washington Times

REALLY?

You are Doctor and you make stupid statements like this. You want to be President and you make statements that cannot be supported by science, or anything else? DUDE! You are are clueless as your father.

so what? this isn't anything new. A lot of people have mixed feelings on them
where did you get your medical degree from? DUDE

And the "lots of people" are putting everyone's family at risk. You want to send you child to school with a kid who was not vaccinated, and has been exposed to measles? You have a death wish for your family, do you?

don't even lay that on us... You people sat here and had no problems when 1000's of unvaccinated Illegal immigrant just invaded our borders last year and dumped on people when they question it. and sat here and did nothing while Obama and his gang FLEW them all over the country and dumped them on every state. You people need a Scapegoat to take people minds off that so here you are. right on cue like a good little tool

I think you have developed an anger issue as of late. You might want to work on that....

 

[peach174]

Maybe the illegal kids started this measles outbreak.

If it had not been for parents being concerned about these vacations we would have never of found out about the mercury in them being used as a preservative.
Now parents have a choice to get vaccines without that mercury.
What else is in them that we don't know about?

Was thimerosal used in all childhood vaccines?

• No. Some other vaccines, including the measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine (MMR), do not and did not ever contain thimerosal or any preservative. Varicella (chickenpox), inactivated polio (IPV), and pneumococcal conjugate vaccines have also never contained thimerosal.

• 
  CDC - FAQ Thimerosal Ethylmercury - Vaccine Safety

No it wasn't but that was not the point.
The point was that we would have never found out about it being in some vaccines if it had not been for parents being concerned about some of harms in the vaccines.

 

[bendog]

Maybe the illegal kids started this measles outbreak.

If it had not been for parents being concerned about these vacations we would have never of found out about the mercury in them being used as a preservative.
Now parents have a choice to get vaccines without that mercury.
What else is in them that we don't know about?

Was thimerosal used in all childhood vaccines?

• No. Some other vaccines, including the measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine (MMR), do not and did not ever contain thimerosal or any preservative. Varicella (chickenpox), inactivated polio (IPV), and pneumococcal conjugate vaccines have also never contained thimerosal.

• 
  CDC - FAQ Thimerosal Ethylmercury - Vaccine Safety

No it wasn't but that was not the point.
The point was that we would have never found out about it being in some vaccines if it had not been for parents being concerned about some of harms in the vaccines.

There's never been a showing of thimerosal causing anything.

 

[peach174]

Rand Paul Vaccines can lead to mental disorders - Washington Times

REALLY?

You are Doctor and you make stupid statements like this. You want to be President and you make statements that cannot be supported by science, or anything else? DUDE! You are are clueless as your father.

so what? this isn't anything new. A lot of people have mixed feelings on them
where did you get your medical degree from? DUDE

And the "lots of people" are putting everyone's family at risk. You want to send you child to school with a kid who was not vaccinated, and has been exposed to measles? You have a death wish for your family, do you?

don't even lay that on us... You people sat here and had no problems when 1000's of unvaccinated Illegal immigrant just invaded our borders last year and dumped on people when they question it. and sat here and did nothing while Obama and his gang FLEW them all over the country and dumped them on every state. You people need a Scapegoat to take people minds off that so here you are. right on cue like a good little tool

I think you have developed an anger issue as of late. You might want to work on that....

That's not anger, that is facts which you seem to have a problem with.

 

[peach174]

Maybe the illegal kids started this measles outbreak.

If it had not been for parents being concerned about these vacations we would have never of found out about the mercury in them being used as a preservative.
Now parents have a choice to get vaccines without that mercury.
What else is in them that we don't know about?

Was thimerosal used in all childhood vaccines?

• No. Some other vaccines, including the measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine (MMR), do not and did not ever contain thimerosal or any preservative. Varicella (chickenpox), inactivated polio (IPV), and pneumococcal conjugate vaccines have also never contained thimerosal.

• 
  CDC - FAQ Thimerosal Ethylmercury - Vaccine Safety

No it wasn't but that was not the point.
The point was that we would have never found out about it being in some vaccines if it had not been for parents being concerned about some of harms in the vaccines.

There's never been a showing of thimerosal causing anything.

Then why do they have a choice now?

 

[bendog]

Maybe the illegal kids started this measles outbreak.

If it had not been for parents being concerned about these vacations we would have never of found out about the mercury in them being used as a preservative.
Now parents have a choice to get vaccines without that mercury.
What else is in them that we don't know about?

Was thimerosal used in all childhood vaccines?

• No. Some other vaccines, including the measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine (MMR), do not and did not ever contain thimerosal or any preservative. Varicella (chickenpox), inactivated polio (IPV), and pneumococcal conjugate vaccines have also never contained thimerosal.

• 
  CDC - FAQ Thimerosal Ethylmercury - Vaccine Safety

No it wasn't but that was not the point.
The point was that we would have never found out about it being in some vaccines if it had not been for parents being concerned about some of harms in the vaccines.

There's never been a showing of thimerosal causing anything.

Then why do they have a choice now?

Because pols capitulated to pseudo-science and quasi-celebrities who inflamed a scared and gullible minority.

 

[peach174]

Maybe the illegal kids started this measles outbreak.

If it had not been for parents being concerned about these vacations we would have never of found out about the mercury in them being used as a preservative.
Now parents have a choice to get vaccines without that mercury.
What else is in them that we don't know about?

Was thimerosal used in all childhood vaccines?

• No. Some other vaccines, including the measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine (MMR), do not and did not ever contain thimerosal or any preservative. Varicella (chickenpox), inactivated polio (IPV), and pneumococcal conjugate vaccines have also never contained thimerosal.

• 
  CDC - FAQ Thimerosal Ethylmercury - Vaccine Safety

No it wasn't but that was not the point.
The point was that we would have never found out about it being in some vaccines if it had not been for parents being concerned about some of harms in the vaccines.

There's never been a showing of thimerosal causing anything.

Then why do they have a choice now?

Because pols capitulated to pseudo-science and quasi-celebrities who inflamed a scared and gullible minority.

It was because of rare allergic reactions.

 

[Stephanie]

Rand Paul joins Michele Bachman in this idiotic statement. Rand Paul belongs to a group that also says that HIV is not the cause of AIDS. He's an odd little thing.

oh gawd, You people are a joke.. as if what he said takes any skin off any off your petty asses
but keep it up. this kind of stuff put Republicans in Control of congress

 

[BluesLegend]

If your child is vaccinated why would they be at risk? You libs really suck at thinking.

this is profoundly moronic.
first, vaccines do not offer 100% immunity. they may not be effective in some people, and some people are not able to be vaccinated because of other health reasons or age.

second, sick people breed illnesses. a compromised immune system is susceptible to other diseases, and so while we may be immunized against your primary illness, your secondary disease may infect other people.

third, while treating your unimmunized dumbass for a completely preventable disease resources are consumed that would otherwise be used to treat diseases that aren't completely preventable.

As I said you libs suck at thinking. If the vaccine was not effective in your kid why are they in school posing a risk to others? lol

right. it's me that sucks at thinking.

which do you think is more likely to happen, an outbreak of a disease where 100% of the people were immunized with a 90% effective vaccine or an outbreak where 90% of the people are immunized with the same vaccine?

Apparently you people also suck at math, your question is well stupid. Again this other clown foamed at the mouth that an un-vaccinated kid posed a risk to his vaccinated kid. That would only be true if the vaccine was not effective in his kid, in which case his kid poses the same risk to others as the un-vaccinated kid...right...libs its not rocket science.

true. a kid who has been vaccinated but does not develop the antibodies is as much at risk as someone that has not been vaccinated.

of course, an unvaccinated child has a 100% chance of not having an immunity, whereas the vaccinated child's risk is much, much smaller.

so who is knowingly putting others at risk, the kid who didn't develop an immunity from vaccination, or the kid who wasn't vaccinated?

and the math in my question was clear and easy - in the first scenario 90% of the people would have immunity to a disease. in the second, only 81%. Which community would you rather live in?

You miss the point entirely, go back and read from the beginning.

 

[Chris]

Rand Paul Vaccines can lead to mental disorders - Washington Times

REALLY?

You are Doctor and you make stupid statements like this. You want to be President and you make statements that cannot be supported by science, or anything else? DUDE! You are are clueless as your father.

The Washington Times is owned by the Moonies who believe that the Rev. Moon was the Second Coming of Christ.

 

[BluesLegend]

this is profoundly moronic.
first, vaccines do not offer 100% immunity. they may not be effective in some people, and some people are not able to be vaccinated because of other health reasons or age.

second, sick people breed illnesses. a compromised immune system is susceptible to other diseases, and so while we may be immunized against your primary illness, your secondary disease may infect other people.

third, while treating your unimmunized dumbass for a completely preventable disease resources are consumed that would otherwise be used to treat diseases that aren't completely preventable.

As I said you libs suck at thinking. If the vaccine was not effective in your kid why are they in school posing a risk to others? lol

right. it's me that sucks at thinking.

which do you think is more likely to happen, an outbreak of a disease where 100% of the people were immunized with a 90% effective vaccine or an outbreak where 90% of the people are immunized with the same vaccine?

Apparently you people also suck at math, your question is well stupid. Again this other clown foamed at the mouth that an un-vaccinated kid posed a risk to his vaccinated kid. That would only be true if the vaccine was not effective in his kid, in which case his kid poses the same risk to others as the un-vaccinated kid...right...libs its not rocket science.

true. a kid who has been vaccinated but does not develop the antibodies is as much at risk as someone that has not been vaccinated.

of course, an unvaccinated child has a 100% chance of not having an immunity, whereas the vaccinated child's risk is much, much smaller.

so who is knowlingly putting others at risk, the kid who didn't develop an immunity from vaccination, or the kid who wasn't vaccinated?

and the math in my question was clear and easy - in the first scenario 90% of the people would have immunity to a disease. in the second, only 81%. Which community would you rather live in?

Don't help him out. There are three questions he obviously hasn't even considered questioning, let alone answering. Why is a vaccination generally not given in the first year of life (in the US)? Why are two vaccinations generally required in the US, and does merely one vaccination convey an immunity?

Yet another liberal with reading comprehension problems.