Reagan & Conservatives -- Revisonist History 101

[Dad2three]

Reagan: Revitalized the US economy, crushed the USSR, and hated by "American" Progressives.

Not bad, not bat all all, Ronnie

How did he do that? By having a top tax rate of 50% the first 6 years? Don't know what a Biz cycle is huh? Or the damage Nixon's/Ford's price and wage controls did? Or OPEC? lol

 

[Meathead]

Who cares if SDI worked. Reagan was a master at playing the card, and damned if it didn't work. He scared the living shit out of the Soviets and drove another nail into their coffin.

The man certainly led a charmed political life. As governor of California and as POTUS, he could do little wrong. Almost 30 years after his death, he is viewed by 35% of Americans as the best post-WWII leader. Read 'em and weep suckers!

A Gallup poll taken in 1992 found that Ronald Reagan was the most unpopular living president apart from Nixon, and ranked even below Jimmy Carter; just 46 percent of Americans had a favorable view of Reagan while Carter was viewed favorably by 63 percent of Americans.

This was before the Hollywood-style re-write of Reagan’s presidency that created the fictional character portrayed during Reagan’s 100th birthday celebration. The campaign was led by Grover Norquist and his “Ronald Reagan Legacy Project,” along with corporate-funded propaganda mills like Heritage and American Enterprise Institute that underwrote hundreds of flattering books to create a mythic hero and perpetual tax-cutter.


...Did Reagan end the Cold War? Immediately after the Berlin Wall fell, a USA Today survey found that only 14% of respondents believed that. Historians mostly credit forty years of “Containment” by eight U.S. presidents.


Vox Verax: The Whitewashing of Ronald Reagan

Your source is even less credible than yourself. He talks about polls that he can't link doubting, no doubt, that idiots would link his articles to those who could actually think for themselves.

The failure is just as much yours as the fool you linked.

Failures really don't like Reagan, and I can't imagine why.

 

[Dad2three]

Did you then vote Dem?

Mostly, try to vote the most liberal candidate I can

Conservative policy NEVER works for ANYONE but the 1%ers

What a dope you are.....bet you hear that a lot.


1. Under Reagan, the debt went up $1.7 trillion, from $900 billion to $2.6 trillion.
2. But….the national wealth went up $ 17 trillion
3. Reagan's near-trillion-dollar bulge in defense spending transformed the global balance of power in favor of capitalism. Spurring a stock-market, energy, venture-capital, real-estate and employment boom, the Reagan tax-rate cuts and other pro-enterprise policies added some $17 trillion to America's private-sector assets, dwarfing the trillion-dollar rise in public-sector deficits and creating 45 million net new jobs at rising wages and salaries.

George Gilder: The Real Reagan Lesson for Romney-Ryan - WSJ

Reaganomics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


And the tax cuts of the Economic Recovery Act of 1981 stimulated economic growth. “As a 1982 JEC study pointed out,[1] similar across-the-board tax cuts had been implemented in the 1920s as the Mellon tax cuts, and in the 1960s as the Kennedy tax cuts. In both cases the reduction of high marginal tax rates actually increased tax payments by "the rich," also increasing their share of total individual income taxes paid.” http://www.house.gov/jec/fiscal/tx-grwth/reagtxct/reagtxct.htm


“As inflation came down and as more and more of the tax cuts from the 1981 Act went into effect, the economic began a strong and sustained pattern of growth.”
US Department of the Treasury


The benefits from Reaganomics:
a. The economy grew at a 3.4% average rate…compared with 2.9% for the previous eight years, and 2.7% for the next eight.(Table B-4)
b. Inflation rate dropped from 12.5% to 4.4%. (Table B-63)
c. Unemployment fell to 5.5% from 7.1% (Table B-35)
d. Prime interest rate fell by one-third.(Table B-73)
e. The S & P 500 jumped 124% (Table B-95) FDsys - Browse ERP
f. Charitable contributions rose 57% faster than inflation. Dinesh D’Souza, “Ronald Reagan: How an Ordinary May Became an Extraordinary Leader,” p. 116


b. and c. Kiva - Kiva Lending Team: Team Ron Paul, Hulk Hogan, Jesus of Nazareth, Chuck Norris, Ronald Reagan, John Wayne, Thomas Jefferson, Alex Jones, Peyton Manning, The Tuskegee Airmen, Schiff, REAL Americans, and George W. Bush

The Whitewashing of Ronald Reagan


A Gallup poll taken in 1992 found that Ronald Reagan was the most unpopular living president apart from Nixon, and ranked even below Jimmy Carter; just 46 percent of Americans had a favorable view of Reagan while Carter was viewed favorably by 63 percent of Americans.

This was before the Hollywood-style re-write of Reagan’s presidency that created the fictional character portrayed during Reagan’s 100th birthday celebration. The campaign was led by Grover Norquist and his “Ronald Reagan Legacy Project,” along with corporate-funded propaganda mills like Heritage and American Enterprise Institute that underwrote hundreds of flattering books to create a mythic hero and perpetual tax-cutter.




They singled out Reagan’s 1981 tax cut that lowered top marginal rates from 70% to 28% as the basis for the campaign, leaving out the inconvenient reality that he subsequently raised taxes eleven times, according to former Republican Senator Alan Simpson who “was there.”

The plutocrats idolize Reagan because he cut taxes on the wealthy -- on income, capital gains, interest, and dividends -- and increased taxes on working people, including raising the self-employment (SECA) tax rate by 60%. He made major cuts in Medicaid, food stamps, aid to families with dependent children (AFDC), and school lunch programs. Mark Hertsgaard (On Bended Knee: the Press and the Reagan Presidency) called it arguably the “single greatest government-led transfer of wealth in history, and in the direction of the top two percent;” the number of families living below the poverty line increased by one-third under Reagan



The result is an enduring, entitled class of individuals who believe that work should be taxed, but wealth should not, and probably, like Reagan that ‘The homeless are homeless because they want to be homeless.’ They control the Republican Party.


Their revisionist history makes Reagan into a small-government fiscal conservative, but he actually grew the government by 53% (Mises Institute), increasing military expenditures by 27% and creating another new department, Veterans’ Affairs. He never submitted a balanced budget and ended up tripling the national debt to $3 trillion. His S&L bailout cost 2.4 times more to fix (relative to GDP) than Bush’s financial crisis. The Washington Post reported in Reagan's last year that "In less than a decade, the world's largest creditor nation has become its leading debtor….”



Never mentioned in the current hagiography is that he amnestied 3 million illegal aliens; that among his most important advisers was an astrologer (Joan Quigley) whom Nancy consulted daily about major decisions; and that he regularly fabricated stories, including about personally “liberating” Nazi concentration camps (he never left California).



Other inconvenient facts about Reagan have disappeared into the memory hole: he provided aid to Saddam Hussein after his unprovoked attacked on Iran and despite Saddam’s known use of chemical weapons; he funneled money and arms to the Islamist mujahidin fighters in Afghanistan who later morphed into al Qaeda; his sending Marines ashore in Lebanon led to the deaths of 241 Marines; and, he invaded tiny Grenada on the flimsiest of pretenses.

Reagan illegally traded weapons to Iran for American hostages (which led to more Americans being kidnapped) and repeatedly lied about it.


Vox Verax: The Whitewashing of Ronald Reagan

 

[whitehall]

"Salon's" version of Reagan? Yeah right. Opinions are like ass holes. Everybody has one but left wingers use them to communicate.

 

[JoeB131]

Joe, unlike the ObamaCare website, SDI worked.

You and Carl Sagan got it wrong.

And the system gets better every time.

It must suck to keep rooting for the USSR and failure

10 million people have signed up for ObamaCare using the website.

SDI has worked- once, under lab conditions in a controlled environment.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Reagan: Revitalized the US economy, crushed the USSR, and hated by "American" Progressives.

Not bad, not bat all all, Ronnie

How did he do that? By having a top tax rate of 50% the first 6 years? Don't know what a Biz cycle is huh? Or the damage Nixon's/Ford's price and wage controls did? Or OPEC? lol

He cut taxes on income and capital gains, Dear

Wait, why did you "Vote for him"? Do you nit recall?

 

[Camp]

Petition seeks to rename Ronald Reagan airport after Tim Howard | TheHill

President Reagan seems to be becoming part of American humor. The brunt of a joke.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Joe, unlike the ObamaCare website, SDI worked.

You and Carl Sagan got it wrong.

And the system gets better every time.

It must suck to keep rooting for the USSR and failure

10 million people have signed up for ObamaCare using the website.

SDI has worked- once, under lab conditions in a controlled environment.

We can't say for sure how many signed up, we're not sure if they're citizens or if they paid.

SDI worked Josef, sucks to be you
US Missile Defense System Finally Meets With Success
By Elizabeth Palermo, Live Science Contributor | June 26, 2014 12:23pm ET

Missile Interceptor Test - June 22, 2014
Pin It The United States military's Ground-based Midcourse Defense system was tested on June 22, 2014. An interceptor was launched from Vandenberg Air Force Base in California and successfully destroyed a mock enemy missile over the Pacific Ocean.
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The United States military announced this week that on June 22, a so-called interceptor launched from Vandenberg Air Force Base in California and successfully destroyed a mock enemy warhead high over the Pacific Ocean.

The successful test of the nation's ground-based missile defense system was a landmark event for the military and the government contractors responsible for developing and maintaining the country's ground-based defenses.

The Ground-based Midcourse Defense (GMD) system tested on Sunday (June 22) had previously failed its last four tests, the first of which was carried out in December 2008, reported the Los Angeles Times. Sunday's successful interception marks the first time in six years that the system proved effective at destroying a test target. [7 Technologies That Transformed Warfare]

“This is a very important step in our continuing efforts to improve and increase the reliability of our homeland ballistic missile defense system," James D. Syring, Navy Vice Admiral and director of the Missile Defense Agency (MDA), said in a statement.

 

[JoeB131]

Guy we have crumbling bridges, ineffective schools and all our manufacturing is going to China.

You guys did more damage to this country than the 'communists' ever did.

 

[Meathead]

Petition seeks to rename Ronald Reagan airport after Tim Howard | TheHill

President Reagan seems to be becoming part of American humor. The brunt of a joke.

From your link:

But it might be difficult to win a battle with supporters of Reagan, the 40th president of the United States, who led the country to the end of the Cold War and is one of the most popular presidents of the 20th century.

Now tell me that Reagan doesn't rock!

 

[Camp]

Petition seeks to rename Ronald Reagan airport after Tim Howard | TheHill

President Reagan seems to be becoming part of American humor. The brunt of a joke.

From your link:

But it might be difficult to win a battle with supporters of Reagan, the 40th president of the United States, who led the country to the end of the Cold War and is one of the most popular presidents of the 20th century.

Now tell me that Reagan doesn't rock!

Nobody expects the petition to be successful in getting the airport name change. The fact it is even considered simply confirms that Reagan's popularity and more important, the respect he gets from the general public is on the wane.

 

[Meathead]

Petition seeks to rename Ronald Reagan airport after Tim Howard | TheHill

President Reagan seems to be becoming part of American humor. The brunt of a joke.

From your link:

But it might be difficult to win a battle with supporters of Reagan, the 40th president of the United States, who led the country to the end of the Cold War and is one of the most popular presidents of the 20th century.

Now tell me that Reagan doesn't rock!

Nobody expects the petition to be successful in getting the airport name change. The fact it is even considered simply confirms that Reagan's popularity and more important, the respect he gets from the general public is on the wane.

Wishful but futile attempt at correlation. Give it up Camp. You've been at this for so long it's pathetic. Find something else you might have more success in. Flipping burgers for instance.

 

[Dot Com]

Petition seeks to rename Ronald Reagan airport after Tim Howard | TheHill

President Reagan seems to be becoming part of American humor. The brunt of a joke.

From your link:

But it might be difficult to win a battle with supporters of Reagan, the 40th president of the United States, who led the country to the end of the Cold War and is one of the most popular presidents of the 20th century.

Now tell me that Reagan doesn't rock!

Nobody expects the petition to be successful in getting the airport name change. The fact it is even considered simply confirms that Reagan's popularity and more important, the respect he gets from the general public is on the wane.

Ironically the airport was already named after a former President- Washington BUT the repubs wanted to rename everything they could after the gipper

 

[Meathead]

From your link:

But it might be difficult to win a battle with supporters of Reagan, the 40th president of the United States, who led the country to the end of the Cold War and is one of the most popular presidents of the 20th century.

Now tell me that Reagan doesn't rock!

Nobody expects the petition to be successful in getting the airport name change. The fact it is even considered simply confirms that Reagan's popularity and more important, the respect he gets from the general public is on the wane.

Ironically the airport was already named after a former President- Washington BUT the repubs wanted to rename everything they could after the gipper

Not ironically you are misinformed. It was simply named Washington National Airport. It is now named Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport.

Dumbing down I suppose.

 

[Camp]

Nobody expects the petition to be successful in getting the airport name change. The fact it is even considered simply confirms that Reagan's popularity and more important, the respect he gets from the general public is on the wane.

Ironically the airport was already named after a former President- Washington BUT the repubs wanted to rename everything they could after the gipper

Not ironically you are misinformed. It was simply named Washington National Airport. It is now named Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport.

Dumbing down I suppose.

You got no room to talk about dumbing down. It was originally named National Airport and built by FDR. It became Washington National when Reagan gave up federal government ownership of the airport and became named Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport under Clinton. It is usually referred to as simply Reagan International.
It was never referred to as the Washington, D.C. International Airport.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Guy we have crumbling bridges, ineffective schools and all our manufacturing is going to China.

You guys did more damage to this country than the 'communists' ever did.

Step 1. Insert <Laundry List of stuff Democrats fucked Up>
Step 2. Blame Republicans
Step 3. Go to Step 1

 

[Meathead]

Ironically the airport was already named after a former President- Washington BUT the repubs wanted to rename everything they could after the gipper

Not ironically you are misinformed. It was simply named Washington National Airport. It is now named Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport.

Dumbing down I suppose.

You got no room to talk about dumbing down. It was originally named National Airport and built by FDR. It became Washington National when Reagan gave up federal government ownership of the airport and became named Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport under Clinton. It is usually referred to as simply Reagan International.
It was never referred to as the Washington, D.C. International Airport.

No, your dumbing down is apparent and not only with your tenuous grasp of history. To wit:

For decades it was called Washington National Airport; it was renamed in 1998 to honor former U.S. President Ronald Reagan.

Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is an example of dumbing down. You can't deny it, too obvious. Sorry.

 

[Dad2three]

Who cares if SDI worked. Reagan was a master at playing the card, and damned if it didn't work. He scared the living shit out of the Soviets and drove another nail into their coffin.

The man certainly led a charmed political life. As governor of California and as POTUS, he could do little wrong. Almost 30 years after his death, he is viewed by 35% of Americans as the best post-WWII leader. Read 'em and weep suckers!

A Gallup poll taken in 1992 found that Ronald Reagan was the most unpopular living president apart from Nixon, and ranked even below Jimmy Carter; just 46 percent of Americans had a favorable view of Reagan while Carter was viewed favorably by 63 percent of Americans.

This was before the Hollywood-style re-write of Reagan&#8217;s presidency that created the fictional character portrayed during Reagan&#8217;s 100th birthday celebration. The campaign was led by Grover Norquist and his &#8220;Ronald Reagan Legacy Project,&#8221; along with corporate-funded propaganda mills like Heritage and American Enterprise Institute that underwrote hundreds of flattering books to create a mythic hero and perpetual tax-cutter.


...Did Reagan end the Cold War? Immediately after the Berlin Wall fell, a USA Today survey found that only 14% of respondents believed that. Historians mostly credit forty years of &#8220;Containment&#8221; by eight U.S. presidents.


Vox Verax: The Whitewashing of Ronald Reagan

Your source is even less credible than yourself. He talks about polls that he can't link doubting, no doubt, that idiots would link his articles to those who could actually think for themselves.

The failure is just as much yours as the fool you linked.

Failures really don't like Reagan, and I can't imagine why.

Three Gallup ratings in 1990, 1992, and 1993 showed Reagan's job approval rating in the 50% to 54% range

Ronald Reagan From the People?s Perspective: A Gallup Poll Review


However, Reagan, Ford, Carter, and George H.W. Bush have enjoyed substantial increases in public approval since leaving office, particularly when they have stayed out of partisan politics.

Kennedy Still Highest-Rated Modern President, Nixon Lowest



Poppy Bush&#8217;s approval rating hit a low of 29 percent in midsummer 1992, a steep decline of 60 percent in 16 months.

5 Presidents With the Biggest Approval Rating Declines | Listosaur | Hungry for Knowledge


NOW USING YOUR BRAIN, IS IT LESS LIKELY OR MORE LIKELY THAT THE FACT IS REAGAN WAS LIKED LESS THAN EVEN CARTER IN 1993, BEFORE THE MYTHICAL REMAKING OF HIM BY RIGHT WINGERS? LOL




By 1992, three years after he left the White House, Ronald Reagan was anything but a beloved former president. As a painful recession gripped the country, the public came to see the Reagan years &#8212; which featured a massive defense buildup, soaring deficits and even a stock market crash in 1987 &#8212; as the source of their economic woes. Running for president that year, Bill Clinton promised to enact a clean break from the &#8220;failed policies of Reagan and Bush.&#8221; As Reagan prepared to speak at the Republican National Convention in August, a Gallup poll found that just 46 percent of Americans had a favorable view of him. By contrast, Jimmy Carter, the man Reagan had defeated in a 44-state rout in 1980, was viewed favorably by 63 percent of the American public. The Reagan presidency stood in something approaching disrepute.

Today, though, you&#8217;d never know any of this happened. In the two decades since it bottomed out, Reagan&#8217;s image has been resurrected, thanks largely to a relentless campaign from conservative activists.


When Reagan was (much) less popular than Carter - Salon.com

 

[Dad2three]

Who cares if SDI worked. Reagan was a master at playing the card, and damned if it didn't work. He scared the living shit out of the Soviets and drove another nail into their coffin.

The man certainly led a charmed political life. As governor of California and as POTUS, he could do little wrong. Almost 30 years after his death, he is viewed by 35% of Americans as the best post-WWII leader. Read 'em and weep suckers!

A Gallup poll taken in 1992 found that Ronald Reagan was the most unpopular living president apart from Nixon, and ranked even below Jimmy Carter; just 46 percent of Americans had a favorable view of Reagan while Carter was viewed favorably by 63 percent of Americans.

This was before the Hollywood-style re-write of Reagan&#8217;s presidency that created the fictional character portrayed during Reagan&#8217;s 100th birthday celebration. The campaign was led by Grover Norquist and his &#8220;Ronald Reagan Legacy Project,&#8221; along with corporate-funded propaganda mills like Heritage and American Enterprise Institute that underwrote hundreds of flattering books to create a mythic hero and perpetual tax-cutter.


...Did Reagan end the Cold War? Immediately after the Berlin Wall fell, a USA Today survey found that only 14% of respondents believed that. Historians mostly credit forty years of &#8220;Containment&#8221; by eight U.S. presidents.


Vox Verax: The Whitewashing of Ronald Reagan

Your source is even less credible than yourself. He talks about polls that he can't link doubting, no doubt, that idiots would link his articles to those who could actually think for themselves.

The failure is just as much yours as the fool you linked.

Failures really don't like Reagan, and I can't imagine why.

Three Gallup ratings in 1990, 1992, and 1993 showed Reagan's job approval rating in the 50% to 54% range

Ronald Reagan From the People?s Perspective: A Gallup Poll Review


However, Reagan, Ford, Carter, and George H.W. Bush have enjoyed substantial increases in public approval since leaving office, particularly when they have stayed out of partisan politics.

Kennedy Still Highest-Rated Modern President, Nixon Lowest



Poppy Bush&#8217;s approval rating hit a low of 29 percent in midsummer 1992, a steep decline of 60 percent in 16 months.

5 Presidents With the Biggest Approval Rating Declines | Listosaur | Hungry for Knowledge


NOW USING YOUR BRAIN, IS IT LESS LIKELY OR MORE LIKELY THAT THE FACT IS REAGAN WAS LIKED LESS THAN EVEN CARTER IN 1992, BEFORE THE MYTHICAL REMAKING OF HIM BY RIGHT WINGERS? LOL




By 1992, three years after he left the White House, Ronald Reagan was anything but a beloved former president. As a painful recession gripped the country, the public came to see the Reagan years &#8212; which featured a massive defense buildup, soaring deficits and even a stock market crash in 1987 &#8212; as the source of their economic woes. Running for president that year, Bill Clinton promised to enact a clean break from the &#8220;failed policies of Reagan and Bush.&#8221; As Reagan prepared to speak at the Republican National Convention in August, a Gallup poll found that just 46 percent of Americans had a favorable view of him. By contrast, Jimmy Carter, the man Reagan had defeated in a 44-state rout in 1980, was viewed favorably by 63 percent of the American public. The Reagan presidency stood in something approaching disrepute.

Today, though, you&#8217;d never know any of this happened. In the two decades since it bottomed out, Reagan&#8217;s image has been resurrected, thanks largely to a relentless campaign from conservative activists.


When Reagan was (much) less popular than Carter - Salon.com

 

[Dad2three]

Reagan: Revitalized the US economy, crushed the USSR, and hated by "American" Progressives.

Not bad, not bat all all, Ronnie

How did he do that? By having a top tax rate of 50% the first 6 years? Don't know what a Biz cycle is huh? Or the damage Nixon's/Ford's price and wage controls did? Or OPEC? lol

He cut taxes on income and capital gains, Dear

Wait, why did you "Vote for him"? Do you nit recall?

So you DON'T know how the economy could've boomed because the top rate for Ronnie's first 6 years was STILL 50%?


The Myths of Reaganomics


It's true that tax rates for higher-income brackets were cut; but for the average person, taxes rose, rather than declined


The Myths of Reaganomics - Murray N. Rothbard - Mises Daily