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Lie. You claimed that changing ocean currents were responsible for the glacial-interglacial cycle. You've also claimed that changing ocean currents are responsible for the warming of the past 150 years, a discussion I haven't even really broached yet.

I'm arguing that the ocean control the climate changes of the planet. You are tilting at windmills.

Have changes in ocean currents resulted in abrupt climate changes?

 

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These results provide direct evidence for the ocean’s persistent, central role in abrupt glacial climate change

The idea of Gulf Stream slowdowns as a mechanism in climate change is not merely theoretical

It is very convincing evidence

These results confirm the significance of variations in the rate of the Atlantic meridional overturning circulation for abrupt climate changes

 

[Crick]

I'm arguing that the ocean control the climate changes of the planet. You are tilting at windmills.

You are lying and dodging.

No magic necessary. Are you arguing glacial cycles didn't happen or that they happened magically? Because I am arguing it has to do with heat circulation from the Atlantic to the Arctic and when that gets disrupted temperatures in the NH drop enough to trigger extensive NH continental glaciation.

1. The vast majority of the heat is in the ocean, not the atmosphere.
2. The NH is uniquely configured for extensive continental glaciation when heat flow gets disrupted to the Arctic.
3. It is well understood that the gulf stream makes the northern latitudes 2C warmer than it would be without it.

 

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You are lying and dodging.

Do you believe that changes in ocean currents can cause abrupt climate changes?

Do you agree that there is evidence for changes in ocean currents causing abrupt climate changes?

Because here's a bunch of peer reviewed scientific papers that say it does and present their physical evidence for it.

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aaf5529?adobe_mc=MCMID=24445298415631476812898182430771639861|MCORGID=242B6472541199F70A4C98A6%40AdobeOrg|TS=1723213472

Sudden climate changes in the recent geological record

https://www.science.org/content/article/crippled-atlantic-currents-triggered-ice-age-climate-change

Collapse and rapid resumption of Atlantic meridional circulation linked to deglacial climate changes - Nature

Destabilisation of the Subpolar North Atlantic prior to the Little Ice Age - Nature Communications

Snapshots of mean ocean temperature over the last 700 000 years using noble gases in the EPICA Dome C ice core

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0031018285800201

Deep Atlantic Circulation During the Last Glacial Maximum and Deglaciation​

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1029/PA005i004p00469

Collapse and rapid resumption of Atlantic meridional circulation linked to deglacial climate changes - Nature​

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2010PA0020

 

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Why does Crick keep denying the science for how the ocean's currents can cause abrupt climate changes?

 

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Could it be that if the ocean is responsible for abrupt climate changes that would mean that CO2 isn't?

 

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So despite every peer reviewed scientific paper that says the ocean is responsible for abrupt climate changes, Crick won't acknowledge it even though there are no dissenting papers. None, nada, zilch.

 

[Crick]

So despite every peer reviewed scientific paper that says the ocean is responsible for abrupt climate changes, Crick won't acknowledge it even though there are no dissenting papers. None, nada, zilch.

Do you think you can find a peer-reviewed paper that shows the moon is not made of green cheese?

 

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Do you think you can find a peer-reviewed paper that shows the moon is not made of green cheese?

I would expect not. How many papers have I shared with you that the ocean is responsible for abrupt temperature changes though?