Refugee Children Are Coming to the U.S. For THESE Reasons!

[jillian]

Everyone, please be sure to read this very important article that will hopefully help to dispel the myths being promulgated by bigoted haters. This is an Excellent article that will truly open your eyes about why these children from Central America are seeking refuge in this country. It includes studies and other valuable information that is replete with knowledge about this matter.

The awful reason tens of thousands of children are seeking refuge in the United States - Vox

Doesn't make it our responsibility.

they said that when they turned back the boats during WWII, as well.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Not our problem.

Yeah, it's not our problem, that is until you come to terms with and realize the validity of the following great and famous quotation by Pastor Martin Niemoller.

"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out -- Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out -- Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out -- Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me -- and there was no one left to speak for me." -- Pastor Martin Niemoller

Think about it. It could well happen to anyone who thinks they're above it all.

What a pile of blithering, glandular-thinking bullshit. You wanna have a warm fuzzy? Do it on your own time. Do NOT babble to me about how we have to stuff our country to overflowing and bankrupt ourselves attempting to take in every human being on the planet whose home country is shitty.

They have a home. They have a government which is morally and legally responsible for them. And we all know that you and your hypocritical ilk are the first ones to scream at any attempt by the United States at improving those countries and governments so that their people won't need to leave. So what I'm hearing is, "Fuck those brown bastards until they're right here where I can't ignore them and where my political party can make use of them."

About that moral superiority you think you have? You're still a piece of shit. Don't ever be confused on that score.

 

[daveman]

Yeah, it's not our problem, that is until you come to terms with and realize the validity of the following great and famous quotation by Pastor Martin Niemoller.

"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out -- Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out -- Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out -- Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me -- and there was no one left to speak for me." -- Pastor Martin Niemoller

Think about it. It could well happen to anyone who thinks they're above it all.

No, it's not our problem.

Ah but the Law MAKES it our problem. Try arguing with the law.

The law is intended to combat persons trafficked in, primarily, the sex trade.

Do you want to claim all these kids are crossing the border to be prostitutes? Because not even Obama is saying anything that stupid.

No, they're coming because Obama has made it plain that he's not sending anyone home.

 

[blackhawk]

There are children in all corners of the world who live under threats of violence in their countries who have oceans between them that keep them from crossing our border should we send ships and planes to bring them as well? Many are fond of saying America is not the worlds policeman and we can't use or power to solve every crisis overseas well we are also not the worlds babysitter either and we can't take in every person who is living a terrible situation in their country.

 

[hjmick]

Everyone, please be sure to read this very important article that will hopefully help to dispel the myths being promulgated by bigoted haters. This is an Excellent article that will truly open your eyes about why these children from Central America are seeking refuge in this country. It includes studies and other valuable information that is replete with knowledge about this matter.

The awful reason tens of thousands of children are seeking refuge in the United States - Vox

Doesn't make it our responsibility.

they said that when they turned back the boats during WWII, as well.

Look, I am not lacking in compassion. I am a father of three. But I see no reason not to send these kids back to their countries of origin. Back to their families. For crying out loud, we need to take care of the problems here at home before we start burdening the system with refugees, undocumented aliens, illegals, whatever you want to call them...


For weeks now I've been reading these threads, these posts from some of your brethren on the left... "We can't send them back, things are terrible where they came from..." Yeah, maybe. But things are tough all over. Why not take care of the homeless children here in the U.S. first? In the 2011-2012 school year, there were 1,168,354 homeless students enrolled in preschool and K-12. Did you know that?


Before we blow 3.7 billion dollars on someone else's kids, let's blow it at home on our own sons and daughters. To do otherwise is, in my opinion, a slap in the face of homeless U.S. citizens. Hell, it's a slap in the face to every U.S. citizen.

 

[daveman]

this country is governed by the rule of law, laws we may or may not agree with, but they are still laws, and laws that can be changed and certainly some need to change ... the right on this board are making the case said laws need to be changed or enforced to the letter of the law. I agree. So why are the Republican lawmakers in Congress refusing to sit down and even talk about immigration laws ? Their voting base is discrediting them more than it is Obama.

The left's idea of immigration reform is to give all illegal immigrants citizenship and free shit -- and letting them vote.

 

[daveman]

Everyone, please be sure to read this very important article that will hopefully help to dispel the myths being promulgated by bigoted haters. This is an Excellent article that will truly open your eyes about why these children from Central America are seeking refuge in this country. It includes studies and other valuable information that is replete with knowledge about this matter.

The awful reason tens of thousands of children are seeking refuge in the United States - Vox

Doesn't make it our responsibility.

they said that when they turned back the boats during WWII, as well.

The Left doesn't want the US to be the world's policeman...so why does the Left want the US to be the world's babysitter and ATM and food pantry and free hotel?

 

[Jarlaxle]

Speak for yourself.
Should everyone from Rwanda, Somalia, etc., be allowed to cross into here illegally, too? Where do you draw the line? They need to fix their own mess.

There is a Great Difference! These are REFUGEE children we are talking about. The others you have identified may or may not be illegals. As a humanitarian country, refugees are welcome in these United States.

Interviews say that nearly 80% are coming here for economic reasons or to unite with family members already here, probably illegally. We should treat them with kindness while they are here and return them as soon a possible.

We should close the border, give the Border Patrol shoot-on-sight ROE, and patrol it with armed helicopter gunships with the same ROE. The illegals here should be rounded up and returned to their home countries as soon as possible after being fingerprinted and DNA tested. They should never be permitted to enter the US under any circumstances.

 

[daveman]

For all you morons mindlessly repeating what Obama tells you to say, it's time to try a little independent thought.

Blog: Stunning: DHS solicited bids for vendor to handle 65,000 unaccompanied minors -- IN JANUARY!

The Obama administration’s claim to have been surprised by the wave of children flooding over out borders may turn out to be another political lie of the year. Sundance of Conservative Treehouse noticed a very peculiar advertisement:

On January 29th of this year, the federal government posted an advertisement seeking bids for a vendor contract to handle “Unaccompanied Alien Children“.

Not just any contract mind you, but a very specific contract – for a very specific number of unaccompanied minors: 65,000.

• Why would DHS and ICE be claiming “surprise” by the current influx of unaccompanied minors on the border in June, when they were taking bids for an exact contract to handle the exact situation in January?

• Secondly, how could they possibly anticipate 65,000 unaccompanied minors would be showing up at the border, when the most ever encountered in a previous year was 5,000 total ?​

The bid specifics are even more suspicious:

[...] The Contractor shall provide unarmed escort staff, including management, supervision, manpower, training, certifications, licenses, drug testing, equipment, and supplies necessary to provide on-demand escort services for non-criminal/non-delinquent unaccompanied alien children ages infant to 17 years of age, seven (7) days a week, 365 days a year. Transport will be required for either category of UAC or individual juveniles, to include both male and female juveniles. There will be approximately 65,000 UAC in total: 25% local ground transport, 25% via ICE charter and 50% via commercial air.

[...] In addition, the Contractor shall have personnel who are able to communicate with juveniles in their own designated language(s).​

The Obama Administration deliberately engineered this humanitarian "crisis".

The Obama Administration thinks we're all stupid. Some of you really are.

 

[Peach]

"Not our problem", yet the persection of Iraqis under Saddam was of course. To the tine of 1.8 TRILLION, and 4.464 US troops' LIVES.*

*Note also, the tens of thousands injured, and lives of those outside the US lost.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Doesn't make it our responsibility.

they said that when they turned back the boats during WWII, as well.

Look, I am not lacking in compassion. I am a father of three. But I see no reason not to send these kids back to their countries of origin. Back to their families. For crying out loud, we need to take care of the problems here at home before we star burdening the system with refugees, undocumented aliens, illegals, whatever you want to call them...


For weeks now I've been reading these threads, these posts from some of your brethren on the left... "We can't send them back, things are terrible where they came from..." Yeah, maybe. But things are tough all over. Why not take care of the homeless children here in the U.S. first? In the 2011-2012 school year, there were 1,168,354 homeless students enrolled in preschool and K-12. Did you know that?


Before we blow 3.7 billion dollars on someone else's kids, let's blow it at home on our own sons and daughters. To do otherwise is, in my opinion, a slap in the face of homeless U.S. citizens. Hell, it's a slap in the face to every U.S. citizen.

and to all the kids here who face gang violence every day of their lives as well....

 

[Contumacious]

There is a Great Difference! These are REFUGEE children we are talking about. The others you have identified may or may not be illegals. As a humanitarian country, refugees are welcome in these United States.

Interviews say that nearly 80% are coming here for economic reasons or to unite with family members already here, probably illegally. We should treat them with kindness while they are here and return them as soon a possible.

We should close the border, give the Border Patrol shoot-on-sight ROE, and patrol it with armed helicopter gunships with the same ROE. The illegals here should be rounded up and returned to their home countries as soon as possible after being fingerprinted and DNA tested. They should never be permitted to enter the US under any circumstances.

Better yet we should abolish the welfare state. And presto no immigration problem.

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[Noomi]

Not our problem.

That isn't your problem, so you won't lift a finger to help them, but you are happy to barge into another country, guns blazing, under the guise of 'helping'?

You Americans are such hypocrites.

 

[Noomi]

"Not our problem", yet the persection of Iraqis under Saddam was of course. To the tine of 1.8 TRILLION, and 4.464 US troops' LIVES.*

*Note also, the tens of thousands injured, and lives of those outside the US lost.

Is there any oil where these kids are coming from?
That may well be the reason why the US isn't interested.

 

[daveman]

Not our problem.

That isn't your problem, so you won't lift a finger to help them, but you are happy to barge into another country, guns blazing, under the guise of 'helping'?

You Americans are such hypocrites.

How many homeless Aussies have you invited into your home, Ms. More-Compassionate-Than-Thou?

 

[bripat9643]

Everyone, please be sure to read this very important article that will hopefully help to dispel the myths being promulgated by bigoted haters. This is an Excellent article that will truly open your eyes about why these children from Central America are seeking refuge in this country. It includes studies and other valuable information that is replete with knowledge about this matter.

The awful reason tens of thousands of children are seeking refuge in the United States - Vox

Violence is nothing new in these countries. I traveled in Honduras about 15 years ago. There was a security guard on every street corner armed with a sawed off shotgun or an AR-15. It was not uncommon to see dead bodies lying in the street. Gang killings were a common thing.

This is nothing new. Only Obama's excuses are new. America isn't responsible for the social problems in other countries. Let them solve their problems rather than exporting them to us.

 

[Noomi]

Not our problem.

That isn't your problem, so you won't lift a finger to help them, but you are happy to barge into another country, guns blazing, under the guise of 'helping'?

You Americans are such hypocrites.

How many homeless Aussies have you invited into your home, Ms. More-Compassionate-Than-Thou?

That wasn't the question.

 

[bripat9643]

"Not our problem", yet the persection of Iraqis under Saddam was of course. To the tine of 1.8 TRILLION, and 4.464 US troops' LIVES.*

*Note also, the tens of thousands injured, and lives of those outside the US lost.

Is there any oil where these kids are coming from?
That may well be the reason why the US isn't interested.

I guess you won't mind if we ship them all to Australia, right?

 

[daveman]

That isn't your problem, so you won't lift a finger to help them, but you are happy to barge into another country, guns blazing, under the guise of 'helping'?

You Americans are such hypocrites.

How many homeless Aussies have you invited into your home, Ms. More-Compassionate-Than-Thou?

That wasn't the question.

So...zero, then.

 

[Vigilante]