Remember The Democrat Lie About 11 Million Illegals....

[PoliticalChic]

....here, residing in this country, when we on the Right told you is was some 50 to 80 million???/

1. "Nearly 2 million people illegally cross border this year"

https://wwarw.krqe.com/news/new-mexico/nearly-2-million-people-illegally-cross-border-this-year/

2. "U.S. border arrests top 1 million in fiscal year 2021

U.S. border arrests top 1 million in fiscal year 2021

U.S. authorities have made more than 1 million arrests of migrants at the U.S.-Mexico border so far in fiscal year 2021, according to preliminary figures shared with Reuters, a tally that underscores the immigration challenges facing President Joe Biden.

www.reuters.com

3. Border Patrol agents estimate that a minimum of five illegal aliens enter the United States for each apprehension, and more likely seven......


4. We on the Right have been telling you for years that the Democrats intend to replace Americans with Democrat voters.
And.....they are doing it before your very eyes.

5.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

....here, residing in this country, when we on the Right told you is was some 50 to 80 million???/

1. "Nearly 2 million people illegally cross border this year"

https://wwarw.krqe.com/news/new-mexico/nearly-2-million-people-illegally-cross-border-this-year/

2. "U.S. border arrests top 1 million in fiscal year 2021

U.S. border arrests top 1 million in fiscal year 2021

U.S. authorities have made more than 1 million arrests of migrants at the U.S.-Mexico border so far in fiscal year 2021, according to preliminary figures shared with Reuters, a tally that underscores the immigration challenges facing President Joe Biden.

www.reuters.com

3. Border Patrol agents estimate that a minimum of five illegal aliens enter the United States for each apprehension, and more likely seven......


4. We on the Right have been telling you for years that the Democrats intend to replace Americans with Democrat voters.
And.....they are doing it before your very eyes.
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Now pull Trump’s numbers and compare.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Now pull Trump’s numbers and compare.

So you aren't denying that there are 50 to 80 million illegals living in America thanks to the Democrat Party?


And that the plan was hatched in 1965 through the Hart Cellers Act???

You're talking about the source of the values and ideals of Western Civilization.

There is a simple reason for the Democrat push, the Hart-Celler Act, that altered the target areas for immigration: these are people who need big government welfare.


You know that.



" Despite [Democrat] Robert Kennedy's promise that, "Immigration from any single country would be limited to 10 percent of the total," Mexico sent 20 percent of last year's immigrants. Hispanics have made up nearly half of all immigrants since 1968.

[Democrat] Ted Kennedy also claimed the 1965 amendments "will not cause American workers to lose their jobs." Teddy cannot have it both ways: either the immigrant will remain unemployed and become a public charge, or he will take a job that otherwise could have gone to a native American. ....immigrant participation lowers wages.



... the [Democrat] 1965 Immigration Reform Act has remade society into the image its critics most feared. Immigration levels topping a million a year will increase U.S. population to 400 million within 50 years. Meanwhile, exponents of multiculturalism insist new arrivals make no effort to assimilate; to do so would be "genocidal," a notion that makes a mockery of real genocides. Instead, long-forgotten grudges are nursed against the white populace.

All the while, indigenous paychecks drop through lower wages and higher taxes collected to provide social services for immigrants. And this only takes into account legal immigration. " FrontPage Magazine - The 1965 Immigration Act: Anatomy of a Disaster



Former Malaysian prime minister Mahathir Bin Mohamad said in a speech in 1997: "We do have the ultimate weapon. People are more mobile now. They can go anywhere. . . . If we are not allowed a good life in our countries, if we are going to be global citizens, then we should migrate North. We should migrate North in our millions, legally or illegally. Masses of Asians and Africans should inundate Europe and America."
Half a Century of Barely Controlled Immigration

How would he vote, Democrat or Republican?





Democrats hate America and American values.


True?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Obama knew this, and proved wasn't there to help black Americans, he was there to advance the Democrat Party.



Obama's US Civil Rights Commission, 2010 Report:
"The United States Commission on Civil Rights (Commission) is pleased to transmit this report, The Impact of Illegal Immigration on the Wages and Employment Opportunities of Black Workers. A panel of experts briefed members of the Commission on April 4, 2008 regarding the evidence for economic loss and job opportunity costs to black workers attributable to illegal immigration. The panelists also described non-economic factors contributing to the depression of black wages and employment rates.

Illegal immigration to the United States in recent decades has tended to depress both wages and employment rates for low-skilled American citizens, a disproportionate number of whom are black men."
http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/IllegImmig_10-14-10_430pm.pdf

https://www.usccr.gov/pubs/docs/IllegImmig_10-14-10_430pm.pdf

 

[Hutch Starskey]

So you aren't denying that there are 50 to 80 million illegals living in America thanks to the Democrat Party?


And that the plan was hatched in 1965 through the Hart Cellers Act???

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You're talking about the source of the values and ideals of Western Civilization.

There is a simple reason for the Democrat push, the Hart-Celler Act, that altered the target areas for immigration: these are people who need big government welfare.


You know that.



" Despite [Democrat] Robert Kennedy's promise that, "Immigration from any single country would be limited to 10 percent of the total," Mexico sent 20 percent of last year's immigrants. Hispanics have made up nearly half of all immigrants since 1968.

[Democrat] Ted Kennedy also claimed the 1965 amendments "will not cause American workers to lose their jobs." Teddy cannot have it both ways: either the immigrant will remain unemployed and become a public charge, or he will take a job that otherwise could have gone to a native American. ....immigrant participation lowers wages.



... the [Democrat] 1965 Immigration Reform Act has remade society into the image its critics most feared. Immigration levels topping a million a year will increase U.S. population to 400 million within 50 years. Meanwhile, exponents of multiculturalism insist new arrivals make no effort to assimilate; to do so would be "genocidal," a notion that makes a mockery of real genocides. Instead, long-forgotten grudges are nursed against the white populace.

All the while, indigenous paychecks drop through lower wages and higher taxes collected to provide social services for immigrants. And this only takes into account legal immigration. " FrontPage Magazine - The 1965 Immigration Act: Anatomy of a Disaster



Former Malaysian prime minister Mahathir Bin Mohamad said in a speech in 1997: "We do have the ultimate weapon. People are more mobile now. They can go anywhere. . . . If we are not allowed a good life in our countries, if we are going to be global citizens, then we should migrate North. We should migrate North in our millions, legally or illegally. Masses of Asians and Africans should inundate Europe and America."
Half a Century of Barely Controlled Immigration

How would he vote, Democrat or Republican?





Excellent.

I am denying that. We just had a census. Total migrants in the US of all types is only 45 million.
There simply isn’t the numbers you claim.
Your tropes about the numbers being apprehended at the borders due to Democrats are also spurious.

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/bendbulletin.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/f/0c/f0cc4d36-941a-11eb-8c64-eb3b81c95bda/6067c33455559.image.jpg

 

[Moonglow]

There is no Democrat Party in power in the US.

 

[Moonglow]

If it were not for the illegal Republicans would have to hire black people and we know they won't do that.

 

[Mac-7]

So you aren't denying that there are 50 to 80 million illegals living in America thanks to the Democrat Party?


And that the plan was hatched in 1965 through the Hart Cellers Act???

You're talking about the source of the values and ideals of Western Civilization.

There is a simple reason for the Democrat push, the Hart-Celler Act, that altered the target areas for immigration: these are people who need big government welfare.


You know that.



" Despite [Democrat] Robert Kennedy's promise that, "Immigration from any single country would be limited to 10 percent of the total," Mexico sent 20 percent of last year's immigrants. Hispanics have made up nearly half of all immigrants since 1968.

[Democrat] Ted Kennedy also claimed the 1965 amendments "will not cause American workers to lose their jobs." Teddy cannot have it both ways: either the immigrant will remain unemployed and become a public charge, or he will take a job that otherwise could have gone to a native American. ....immigrant participation lowers wages.



... the [Democrat] 1965 Immigration Reform Act has remade society into the image its critics most feared. Immigration levels topping a million a year will increase U.S. population to 400 million within 50 years. Meanwhile, exponents of multiculturalism insist new arrivals make no effort to assimilate; to do so would be "genocidal," a notion that makes a mockery of real genocides. Instead, long-forgotten grudges are nursed against the white populace.

All the while, indigenous paychecks drop through lower wages and higher taxes collected to provide social services for immigrants. And this only takes into account legal immigration. " FrontPage Magazine - The 1965 Immigration Act: Anatomy of a Disaster



Former Malaysian prime minister Mahathir Bin Mohamad said in a speech in 1997: "We do have the ultimate weapon. People are more mobile now. They can go anywhere. . . . If we are not allowed a good life in our countries, if we are going to be global citizens, then we should migrate North. We should migrate North in our millions, legally or illegally. Masses of Asians and Africans should inundate Europe and America."
Half a Century of Barely Controlled Immigration

How would he vote, Democrat or Republican?





Democrats hate America and American values.


True?

I think 50 million may be too high

but no one in or out of government knows for sure

 

[Mac-7]

If it were not for the illegal Republicans would have to hire black people and we know they won't do that.

Deport the illegals and reform welfare to force able bodied people to work or starve

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Deport the illegals and reform welfare to force able bodied people to work or starve

Most people on welfare do work.

About a Third of Families Who Received Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program Benefits Had Two or More People Working

Most families who received Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program benefits had at least one worker and about a third included two or more workers.

www.census.gov

 

[Unkotare]

So you aren't denying that there are 50 to 80 million illegals living in America thanks to the Democrat Party?


And that the plan was hatched in 1965 through the Hart Cellers Act???

You're talking about the source of the values and ideals of Western Civilization.

There is a simple reason for the Democrat push, the Hart-Celler Act, that altered the target areas for immigration: these are people who need big government welfare.


You know that.



" Despite [Democrat] Robert Kennedy's promise that, "Immigration from any single country would be limited to 10 percent of the total," Mexico sent 20 percent of last year's immigrants. Hispanics have made up nearly half of all immigrants since 1968.

[Democrat] Ted Kennedy also claimed the 1965 amendments "will not cause American workers to lose their jobs." Teddy cannot have it both ways: either the immigrant will remain unemployed and become a public charge, or he will take a job that otherwise could have gone to a native American. ....immigrant participation lowers wages.



... the [Democrat] 1965 Immigration Reform Act has remade society into the image its critics most feared. Immigration levels topping a million a year will increase U.S. population to 400 million within 50 years. Meanwhile, exponents of multiculturalism insist new arrivals make no effort to assimilate; to do so would be "genocidal," a notion that makes a mockery of real genocides. Instead, long-forgotten grudges are nursed against the white populace.

All the while, indigenous paychecks drop through lower wages and higher taxes collected to provide social services for immigrants. And this only takes into account legal immigration. " FrontPage Magazine - The 1965 Immigration Act: Anatomy of a Disaster



Former Malaysian prime minister Mahathir Bin Mohamad said in a speech in 1997: "We do have the ultimate weapon. People are more mobile now. They can go anywhere. . . . If we are not allowed a good life in our countries, if we are going to be global citizens, then we should migrate North. We should migrate North in our millions, legally or illegally. Masses of Asians and Africans should inundate Europe and America."
Half a Century of Barely Controlled Immigration

How would he vote, Democrat or Republican?





Democrats hate America and American values.


True?

What is the source for the “50 to 80 million” figure?

 

[Moonglow]

Deport the illegals and reform welfare to force able bodied people to work or starve

Can't since the GOP blocks E-varify for agribusiness every time.

 

[Moonglow]

Most people on welfare do work.

About a Third of Families Who Received Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program Benefits Had Two or More People Working

Most families who received Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program benefits had at least one worker and about a third included two or more workers.

www.census.gov

For some reason they require it.

 

[Moonglow]

What is the source for the “50 to 80 million” figure?

Their best guess.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I am denying that. We just had a census. Total migrants in the US of all types is only 45 million.
There simply isn’t the numbers you claim.
Your tropes about the numbers being apprehended at the borders due to Democrats are also spurious.

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/bendbulletin.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/f/0c/f0cc4d36-941a-11eb-8c64-eb3b81c95bda/6067c33455559.image.jpg

I was soooooooooooo hoping to get some Democrat moron to deny the number.

Watch me bury you:


Based on your accepting that bogus 'estimate,' you may continue to be RealDumb.



1. That answer moves you firmly into the category of 'moron.'

Case in point: while millions of illegal aliens filter into the country year after year, the very same figure...."11 million illegal aliens live in the country"....neither changes nor is questioned.



2. "... no number has been given greater certitude and less investigation than that. Not even the number of planets in our solar system has enjoyed such constancy and acceptance.



Imagine the reaction if the media reported daily that this 20 million cohort, supplemented by chain migration and family reunification mandates, would swell to 40 million or 50 million in a decade." How Many Illegal Immigrants Live in the US?





There are between 50 million and 80 million illegal aliens living in this country.







3. James H. Walsh, formerly an Associate General Counsel of the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) in the United States Department of Justice, writes



"... the U.S. Census Bureau routinely undercounts and then adjusts upward total census numbers of Hispanics and other foreign nationals residing in the United States––counting only, of course, those willing to be counted. For the year 2000, the Census Bureau reported a total U.S. population count of “about 275 million” men, women, and children.



When the states and local governments challenged that number as an undercount, the total was corrected upward to 281.4 million, with no clear count of illegal aliens. The Hispanic 2000 census count was 32.8 million, but on re-count the Census Bureau adjusted this number upward to 35.3 million, a 13 percent increase."

How many illegal aliens reside in the United States? | CAIRCO - Colorado Alliance for Immigration Reform | issues legislation projects research



Increased the totals by 13%!!!

Now....hold on tight....this is gonna involve mathematics, so I may lose you here:



Soooo....if we apply that same 'adjustment' to the fabled 11 million....over a decade of so....we have almost 40 million.









But wait!!!

There's more!



4. Another way to arrive at the numbers of illegals in the country is to base it on the number of apprehensions and escapes.



"The average number of recorded apprehensions of illegal aliens in the United States now hovers at 1.2 million a year [in 2007]. A DHS report, Border Apprehensions: 2005, documented 1.3 million apprehensions in 2005. For the 10-year period (1996–2005), the highest number of apprehensions, 1.8 million, occurred in 2000, and the lowest, 1 million, in 2003. These DHS statistics contradict persistent statements by other government agencies that only 400,000 to 500,000 illegal aliens enter the country each year.





Journeymen Border Patrol agents (on the job five years or more) estimate that a minimum of five illegal aliens enter the United States for each apprehension, and more likely seven. That informed estimate would raise the total number of illegal aliens entering the United States in 2003 to 8 million men, women, and children.



He concludes that:



My estimate of 38 million illegal aliens residing in the United States is calculated, however, using a conservative annual rate of entry (allowing for deaths and returns to their homelands) of three illegal aliens entering the United States for each one apprehended. My estimate includes apprehensions at the Southern Border (by far, the majority), at the Northern Border, along the Pacific, Atlantic, and Gulf of Mexico coasts, and at seaports and airports.









5. Taking the DHS average of 1.2 million apprehensions per year and multiplying it by 3 comes to 3.6 million illegal entries per year; then multiplying that number by 10 for the 1996–2005 period, my calculations come to 36 million illegal entries into the United States. Add to this the approximately 2 million visa overstays during the same period, and the total is 38 million illegal aliens currently in the United States."

How many illegal aliens reside in the United States? | CAIRCO - Colorado Alliance for Immigration Reform | issues legislation projects research



....and that number is over a decade old!!!!!!



Gettin' nervous?





6. But other Border Patrol agents estimate that a minimum of five illegal aliens enter the United States for each apprehension, and more likely seven......which would give a total of nearly 80 million illegals occupying our country.



The number of illegals would be at least.....at least.....60-80 million at this time.....permanently residing right here is this country.





Hence...even a tiny fraction of them voting would be 3-6 million votes....you know....the ones Obama told to vote.

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Judging by the amount of time and effort that the Democrats spend advancing the aims and claims of illegal aliens....one can begin to see what a huge constituency they make up for the Democrat Party.



" Democrats had extensive get-out-the-vote campaigns in areas heavily populated by illegal aliens. As far back as 2008, Obama made sure that those who wanted to vote knew it was safe, announcing that election records would not be cross-checked with immigration databases.

... the Obama White House supported a court injunction that kept Kansas, Alabama and Georgia from requiring proof of citizenship to register to vote. The message was sent, loud and clear: If you're a noncitizen or here illegally, don't be afraid. You're free to vote. No one will stop you."

Did Votes By Noncitizens Cost Trump The 2016 Popular Vote? Sure Looks That Way

We don't know the exact number of illegal votes. No one does. But the data that are available suggest that the number of illegal votes was substantial.

www.investors.com

Thanks for verifying that I am never wrong.

 

[Moonglow]

If only we didn't have another Reagan to give amnesty to the illegals, yeah that's the ticket.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I think 50 million may be too high

but no one in or out of government knows for sure

Ever notice you must press #1 for English???



See post #15

 

[PoliticalChic]

What is the source for the “50 to 80 million” figure?

Ever notice you must press #1 for English?



See post #15....linked and sourced.

 

[TheGreatSatan]

Democrat Communist controlled countries around the world are using America as a dumping ground for criminals

 

[Moonglow]

Ever notice you must press #1 for English???



See post #15

No Habla Espanol, no? And you claim to be smart...