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No, no, & no.You've been informed you when hostilities started.
You have also been shown all the forts and arsenals that were seized, well before Lincoln was inaugurated.
The Problem in Charleston Harbor
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"CHARLESTON, S.C. --- Gray-clad cadets from South Carolina's historic military college fired cannons Saturday on a barren, wind-swept island on Charleston Harbor to re-enact the 150th anniversary of a key episode leading up to the Civil War.
The event recalled what some consider the first shots of the war -- the 1861 firing on the steamship Star of the West that was trying to reach Fort Sumter with supplies and 200 federal troops. Cadets manning a battery on Morris Island hit the ship and forced it to turn back.
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The incident is ingrained in the history of the military college, founded in 1842. The Citadel's regimental colors carry eight Confederate battle ribbons.
The best drilled Citadel cadet still receives the Star of the West Medal each spring. It incorporates wood from the historic vessel."
Citadel cadets re-enact first shots of Civil War The Augusta Chronicle
You can deny it as insignificant, and say war was not a foregone conclusion, (it was) -- but that January 1861 incident was recognized by all involved at the time as an important milestone and a full-on escalation of the dispute over Federal installations and most certainly the gasoline that was being tossed by the Southerners to ignite the fire of war.
Before Lincoln ever stepped into office.
And if you really want to get picky in some of those January events....
Barrancas: The First Shots Fired in the Rebellion
"The firing on Fort Sumter in Charleston's harbor traditionally marks the opening salvos of the Rebellion. But before this assault on April 14, 1861, there was another battle—the first shots of the Civil War—hundreds of miles to the south in Florida.
On Jan. 8, 1861, United States Army guards repelled a group of men intending to take Fort Barrancas in Pensacola Harbor. Historians say that this event could be considered the first shots fired on Union forces in the Civil War.
Military History Online - Fort Barrancas
Tell us again about "The War of Northern Aggression."
Gowan.
Recounting the same events over and over again doesn't strengthen your case. Sovereign nations have a right to evict trespassers, and all union troops in the South became trespassers the minute the Southern states seceded. Wasn't it you who admitted that no military base in a foreign country can ever be permanent?
You lost, long ago.
Give up your crusade to defend people whose stated intent was a desire to continue to enslave millions of black human beings to be bought as sold as cattle and horses.
Declaring yourself the winner doesn't make you the winner. Most people learned that lesson when they were children.
Again, the sleazy insinuations of racism. If your "victory" was so obvious you wouldn't need to resort to such tactics
"Declaring yourself the winner doesn't make you the winner. Most people learned that lesson when they were children. "
Notice how nasty they get when the know they have been beaten?
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Don't you Lincoln worshipping numskulls get tired of having the same arguments kicked to pieces over and over again?
Ok, child.
It's not racist to say you are defending people whose stated intent was a desire to continue to enslave millions of black human beings to be bought as sold as cattle and horses.
It's fact.