Republican bill stops funding to states issuing DL's to illegals

[Ray From Cleveland]

A heavy fine would need to be passed by Congress first of all, and of course, the President would have to sign it. No chance of that happening with a Democrat led House. But there are laws and penalties for hiring illegals already on the books.

Penalties for Employers Hiring Illegal Immigrants | LegalMatch

LOL

Wal-Mart Settles Illegal Immigrant Case for $11M

What this basically says is that Walmart didn't hire anybody illegally. They hired janitorial contractors who did. Walmart had no way of knowing who those employees from the companies were. They were not complicit or guilty of anything. The payment was just to save them from fighting this down to the highest court.

It's the same thing that happened to Donald Trump. He hired a demolition company to take down the structures where Trump Tower is today. The demolition company hired illegals from Poland to do the work, and Trump had no way of knowing.

And yet they got fined. No one does any more because politicians and business wants it that way.

They could have fought it and won like Trump did. It's just it's bad PR for a company to do that. Media picks up on those stories and we know what side they are on. Walmart has been the lefts whipping boy for several decades. Walmart had the money, so they settled out of court like so many other innocent entities do every single day in this country.

$11mil to WalMart is a pittance

Of courses it is. That's why they settled. But they still were not guilty of anything.

 

[pknopp]

Those businesses needed to be heavily fined. Do you disagree?

A heavy fine would need to be passed by Congress first of all, and of course, the President would have to sign it. No chance of that happening with a Democrat led House. But there are laws and penalties for hiring illegals already on the books.

Penalties for Employers Hiring Illegal Immigrants | LegalMatch

LOL

Wal-Mart Settles Illegal Immigrant Case for $11M

What this basically says is that Walmart didn't hire anybody illegally. They hired janitorial contractors who did. Walmart had no way of knowing who those employees from the companies were. They were not complicit or guilty of anything. The payment was just to save them from fighting this down to the highest court.

It's the same thing that happened to Donald Trump. He hired a demolition company to take down the structures where Trump Tower is today. The demolition company hired illegals from Poland to do the work, and Trump had no way of knowing.

And yet they got fined. No one does any more because politicians and business wants it that way.

They could have fought it and won like Trump did. It's just it's bad PR for a company to do that. Media picks up on those stories and we know what side they are on. Walmart has been the lefts whipping boy for several decades. Walmart had the money, so they settled out of court like so many other innocent entities do every single day in this country.

The point is, you said it can't be done. If the administration started busting businesses, sure they could fight back but it would be cheaper to simply hire legal employee's.

Trump and the Republicans could have passed a strong e-verify also. It's never mentioned. Instead we get this.

 

[pknopp]

We need to elect those who will not lie to us.

And that would be?

You are unaware of who has lied to you?

Everyone has lied. My post meant who could we elect that doesn’t lie.

I understand why people voted for Trump and Obama the first time. What I do not understand is voting for them again after knowing what they told you was so full of lies.

Because Romney was an awful candidate and the economy is very strong under trump sans the deficit.

If it was the Fed wouldn't still be pumping billions but all the same, you are saying politics are more important to you than this issue so why should I or others care?

 

[pknopp]

LOL

Wal-Mart Settles Illegal Immigrant Case for $11M

$11mil is nothing to WalMart. Fine them $1Bn

No argument from me but it was showing that it can be done. Wal Mart wasn't even aware the illegals were working in their stores.

For a fine of $1bn they would set up a system to
make them aware going forward.

For many companies a fine of any decent size would. Why isn't it happening?

Because our politicians are nervous that it will impact political campaign donations.

Too bad they aren't afraid it will affect the number of votes they get.

 

[CWayne]

Simple solution. Require every DMV be housed in an Immigration enforcement agency.

Hell, it might even improve the wait time.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Sorry, I don't go to sites I have to sign in for.

Uh huh...except this one ..Ray, are you ever NOT totally full of shit? You always have an excuse not to read a link. Hell, you don't even read your own links!

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

If we don't let them drive, they won't be able to get to their job in the first place.

No, they will drive anyway. Duh. That's why we started giving them licenses in the first place. This board is a dumping ground for stupid.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

That's why they settled. But they still were not guilty of anything.

From the link:

"Officials said at the time of the raids the investigation involved wiretaps that revealed Wal-Mart executives were aware that the subcontractors used illegal workers."

As I was saying...the next time you read a link will be the first...

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

A heavy fine would need to be passed by Congress first of all, and of course, the President would have to sign it. No chance of that happening with a Democrat led House. But there are laws and penalties for hiring illegals already on the books.

Penalties for Employers Hiring Illegal Immigrants | LegalMatch

LOL

Wal-Mart Settles Illegal Immigrant Case for $11M

What this basically says is that Walmart didn't hire anybody illegally. They hired janitorial contractors who did. Walmart had no way of knowing who those employees from the companies were. They were not complicit or guilty of anything. The payment was just to save them from fighting this down to the highest court.

It's the same thing that happened to Donald Trump. He hired a demolition company to take down the structures where Trump Tower is today. The demolition company hired illegals from Poland to do the work, and Trump had no way of knowing.

And yet they got fined. No one does any more because politicians and business wants it that way.

They could have fought it and won like Trump did. It's just it's bad PR for a company to do that. Media picks up on those stories and we know what side they are on. Walmart has been the lefts whipping boy for several decades. Walmart had the money, so they settled out of court like so many other innocent entities do every single day in this country.

The point is, you said it can't be done. If the administration started busting businesses, sure they could fight back but it would be cheaper to simply hire legal employee's.

Trump and the Republicans could have passed a strong e-verify also. It's never mentioned. Instead we get this.

The problem is Walmart did nothing wrong. If you hire a lawn care company for your grass, should you be responsible for the workers that cut your lawn? Of course not. That's the lawn care owners responsibility. You did nothing wrong. You simply hired a lawn care service.

Walmart did not pay those janitorial employees. They paid the contractor. The contractor was the only person working for Walmart.

 

[pknopp]

LOL

Wal-Mart Settles Illegal Immigrant Case for $11M

What this basically says is that Walmart didn't hire anybody illegally. They hired janitorial contractors who did. Walmart had no way of knowing who those employees from the companies were. They were not complicit or guilty of anything. The payment was just to save them from fighting this down to the highest court.

It's the same thing that happened to Donald Trump. He hired a demolition company to take down the structures where Trump Tower is today. The demolition company hired illegals from Poland to do the work, and Trump had no way of knowing.

And yet they got fined. No one does any more because politicians and business wants it that way.

They could have fought it and won like Trump did. It's just it's bad PR for a company to do that. Media picks up on those stories and we know what side they are on. Walmart has been the lefts whipping boy for several decades. Walmart had the money, so they settled out of court like so many other innocent entities do every single day in this country.

The point is, you said it can't be done. If the administration started busting businesses, sure they could fight back but it would be cheaper to simply hire legal employee's.

Trump and the Republicans could have passed a strong e-verify also. It's never mentioned. Instead we get this.

The problem is Walmart did nothing wrong. If you hire a lawn care company for your grass, should you be responsible for the workers that cut your lawn? Of course not. That's the lawn care owners responsibility. You did nothing wrong. You simply hired a lawn care service.

Walmart did not pay those janitorial employees. They paid the contractor. The contractor was the only person working for Walmart.

Ray is why I support allowing illegals to get a D.L.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

What this basically says is that Walmart didn't hire anybody illegally. They hired janitorial contractors who did. Walmart had no way of knowing who those employees from the companies were. They were not complicit or guilty of anything. The payment was just to save them from fighting this down to the highest court.

It's the same thing that happened to Donald Trump. He hired a demolition company to take down the structures where Trump Tower is today. The demolition company hired illegals from Poland to do the work, and Trump had no way of knowing.

And yet they got fined. No one does any more because politicians and business wants it that way.

They could have fought it and won like Trump did. It's just it's bad PR for a company to do that. Media picks up on those stories and we know what side they are on. Walmart has been the lefts whipping boy for several decades. Walmart had the money, so they settled out of court like so many other innocent entities do every single day in this country.

The point is, you said it can't be done. If the administration started busting businesses, sure they could fight back but it would be cheaper to simply hire legal employee's.

Trump and the Republicans could have passed a strong e-verify also. It's never mentioned. Instead we get this.

The problem is Walmart did nothing wrong. If you hire a lawn care company for your grass, should you be responsible for the workers that cut your lawn? Of course not. That's the lawn care owners responsibility. You did nothing wrong. You simply hired a lawn care service.

Walmart did not pay those janitorial employees. They paid the contractor. The contractor was the only person working for Walmart.

Ray is why I support allowing illegals to get a D.L.

Actually I think it's your lack of logic why you support it. Every time this subject comes up, you change it back to employers that hire them. But then you come here and say you support them getting licenses so it's easier for them to get to their job they shouldn't have.

That' makes zero common sense at all.

 

[pknopp]

And yet they got fined. No one does any more because politicians and business wants it that way.

They could have fought it and won like Trump did. It's just it's bad PR for a company to do that. Media picks up on those stories and we know what side they are on. Walmart has been the lefts whipping boy for several decades. Walmart had the money, so they settled out of court like so many other innocent entities do every single day in this country.

The point is, you said it can't be done. If the administration started busting businesses, sure they could fight back but it would be cheaper to simply hire legal employee's.

Trump and the Republicans could have passed a strong e-verify also. It's never mentioned. Instead we get this.

The problem is Walmart did nothing wrong. If you hire a lawn care company for your grass, should you be responsible for the workers that cut your lawn? Of course not. That's the lawn care owners responsibility. You did nothing wrong. You simply hired a lawn care service.

Walmart did not pay those janitorial employees. They paid the contractor. The contractor was the only person working for Walmart.

Ray is why I support allowing illegals to get a D.L.

Actually I think it's your lack of logic why you support it. Every time this subject comes up, you change it back to employers that hire them. But then you come here and say you support them getting licenses so it's easier for them to get to their job they shouldn't have.

That' makes zero common sense at all.

As I said, you may be the most dishonest poster here.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

They could have fought it and won like Trump did. It's just it's bad PR for a company to do that. Media picks up on those stories and we know what side they are on. Walmart has been the lefts whipping boy for several decades. Walmart had the money, so they settled out of court like so many other innocent entities do every single day in this country.

The point is, you said it can't be done. If the administration started busting businesses, sure they could fight back but it would be cheaper to simply hire legal employee's.

Trump and the Republicans could have passed a strong e-verify also. It's never mentioned. Instead we get this.

The problem is Walmart did nothing wrong. If you hire a lawn care company for your grass, should you be responsible for the workers that cut your lawn? Of course not. That's the lawn care owners responsibility. You did nothing wrong. You simply hired a lawn care service.

Walmart did not pay those janitorial employees. They paid the contractor. The contractor was the only person working for Walmart.

Ray is why I support allowing illegals to get a D.L.

Actually I think it's your lack of logic why you support it. Every time this subject comes up, you change it back to employers that hire them. But then you come here and say you support them getting licenses so it's easier for them to get to their job they shouldn't have.

That' makes zero common sense at all.

As I said, you may be the most dishonest poster here.

How's that dishonest? I'm against employers hiring illegals and I'm against states who make it easier for them to get to their jobs. That's called consistency.

 

[Jackson]

What does a Drivers License have to do with immigration?

It just makes sure drivers have the proper skills and training?

Makes it easier for them to vote. But you knew that.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

And that would be?

You are unaware of who has lied to you?

Everyone has lied. My post meant who could we elect that doesn’t lie.

I understand why people voted for Trump and Obama the first time. What I do not understand is voting for them again after knowing what they told you was so full of lies.

Because Romney was an awful candidate and the economy is very strong under trump sans the deficit.

If it was the Fed wouldn't still be pumping billions but all the same, you are saying politics are more important to you than this issue so why should I or others care?

The problem is entitlements. Hopefully if Trump wins he attacks them in his 2nd term and we stop running a deficit.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

$11mil is nothing to WalMart. Fine them $1Bn

No argument from me but it was showing that it can be done. Wal Mart wasn't even aware the illegals were working in their stores.

For a fine of $1bn they would set up a system to
make them aware going forward.

For many companies a fine of any decent size would. Why isn't it happening?

Because our politicians are nervous that it will impact political campaign donations.

Too bad they aren't afraid it will affect the number of votes they get.

Most voters are not super educated when it comes to international policy, economy, military, etc. If they were, Bernie Sanders would not be a front runner. You seem like a logical and educated person. I do not see you voting for a Socialist.

 

[pknopp]

You are unaware of who has lied to you?

Everyone has lied. My post meant who could we elect that doesn’t lie.

I understand why people voted for Trump and Obama the first time. What I do not understand is voting for them again after knowing what they told you was so full of lies.

Because Romney was an awful candidate and the economy is very strong under trump sans the deficit.

If it was the Fed wouldn't still be pumping billions but all the same, you are saying politics are more important to you than this issue so why should I or others care?

The problem is entitlements. Hopefully if Trump wins he attacks them in his 2nd term and we stop running a deficit.

He promised it in his first. He's done nothing.

 

[pknopp]

No argument from me but it was showing that it can be done. Wal Mart wasn't even aware the illegals were working in their stores.

For a fine of $1bn they would set up a system to
make them aware going forward.

For many companies a fine of any decent size would. Why isn't it happening?

Because our politicians are nervous that it will impact political campaign donations.

Too bad they aren't afraid it will affect the number of votes they get.

Most voters are not super educated when it comes to international policy, economy, military, etc. If they were, Bernie Sanders would not be a front runner. You seem like a logical and educated person. I do not see you voting for a Socialist.

Why not? You are.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Everyone has lied. My post meant who could we elect that doesn’t lie.

I understand why people voted for Trump and Obama the first time. What I do not understand is voting for them again after knowing what they told you was so full of lies.

Because Romney was an awful candidate and the economy is very strong under trump sans the deficit.

If it was the Fed wouldn't still be pumping billions but all the same, you are saying politics are more important to you than this issue so why should I or others care?

The problem is entitlements. Hopefully if Trump wins he attacks them in his 2nd term and we stop running a deficit.

He promised it in his first. He's done nothing.

No. He actually did not. The alternative is unthinkable with Bernie

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

For a fine of $1bn they would set up a system to
make them aware going forward.

For many companies a fine of any decent size would. Why isn't it happening?

Because our politicians are nervous that it will impact political campaign donations.

Too bad they aren't afraid it will affect the number of votes they get.

Most voters are not super educated when it comes to international policy, economy, military, etc. If they were, Bernie Sanders would not be a front runner. You seem like a logical and educated person. I do not see you voting for a Socialist.

Why not? You are.

LOL

no