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These idiots DESERVE to be lied to by Trump and the GOP.
I agree with the sentiment that "replacing" ACA is dumb. There's no need to offer an alternative to something that is a net negative.
But that's not the same thing as saying there is no problem. The debate is, as it has always been, over what the problem is. I see the problem as one of skewed markets - health care prices are inflated beyond all reason. And that's what I'd like to see the Republicans address. But others don't think that's a plan at all. To them, the problem is the fact that people have to pay for health care at all. They think everyone should be guaranteed basic (by someone's definition of 'basic') health by the government. This implies an entirely different solution than address market imbalances.
Under single payer, you would have insurance right now.LOL...Derp.The Washington Post reports that the Republican Party has no health care plan.
"Not only is there no such health-care overhaul in the works on Capitol Hill — there are no plans to make such a plan, and most Republicans hope the president will drop the idea of trying to come up with a replacement for the Affordable Care Act."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...005bd0-5264-11e9-8d28-f5149e5a2fda_story.html
It's true. The Republicans have no plan, because the only good plan would be to simply repeal the entire system, and go back to free-market system. While that would result in the best possible care for the most possible people, without corporate welfare across the economy.... it would also result in the Republicans being voted out of office.
Republicans are politicians first, and protectors of the country second.... which is only different than Democrats in that Democrats don't care at all about the country, as long as they have power.
So they are not going to come up with a health care plan.
The Dems already came up with and enacted healthcare. The Repubs, if they were smart, would build on what is already existing rather than trying to destroy it. Like it or not, a lot of people use it, like it, depend on it.
Yeah, we know they did. That's why everyone is worse off today. I have no health insurance right now, specifically because of the Democrats.
If they were smart, they wouldn't have harmed everyone to begin with.
Trump is attempting, once again, to hold the American public hostage, by declaring that there will be no GOP health care plan UNLESS HE IS REELECTED. This is about as low as he can possibly get. Why 100% of the voting public is not totally disgusted with this man is beyond me.
The fact is that most Republicans couldn’t care less about millions of Americans who can’t afford health insurance, or who otherwise don’t have access to affordable health care.
Really? Because republicans donate more to charity care, than left-wingers ever do.
If anyone doesn't care, it's the left-wing.
Where are the caring left-wingers in Venezuela. I see right-wingers over there providing free care. Where are the left-wingers? Oh that's right, they are in the government, and doing fine. It's the poor people with free-gov-care, that are left to day.
What about those people on waiting lists in Canada? Where are the left-wingers there? Oh that's right, they are on a flight to the US to get care.
You people talk about caring, but you are the least caring people in this world.
While we are at it, charitable deductions should not be a deduction. What waiting list in Canada?
Canada has massive waiting lists.
In fact, there are companies in Canada, that help Canadians escape their horrible system.
Timely Medical | Timely Surgery at Affordable Prices
Timely Medical in Canada, was started by a doctor who was sick and tired of seeing his patients suffer for years on end, waiting for health care.
Now he has a business helping people find care, primarily in the US, to avoid the years-long wait in Canada that is routine.
Think about that... if health care is free.... why are so many thousands on thousands, willing to pay a company, to escape their 'free' system? The company has been in business 14 years, thanks to the suffering caused by socialized gov-care in Canada.
Wait times.
Wait times for joint replacements and cataract surgery growing in much of Canada
And it's a misnomer to say we don't have wait times in the US too. I'll be on Medicare in less than two years, and I'll still have my employer sponsored HC. I'm due for a cataract removal and colonoscopy. I'm only going to pay for one now because when I'm on Medicare I'll have no out of pocket expenses for Medicare even on out of hospital services
People play the medicare game all the time. And we also put off procedures until out medical savings accounts are fully funded.
Not that I'm a great admirer of single payer, but the Canadian horror stories are overplayed.
And yet Canada has better health outcpmes by every measure than the US does.The fact is that most Republicans couldn’t care less about millions of Americans who can’t afford health insurance, or who otherwise don’t have access to affordable health care.
Really? Because republicans donate more to charity care, than left-wingers ever do.
If anyone doesn't care, it's the left-wing.
Where are the caring left-wingers in Venezuela. I see right-wingers over there providing free care. Where are the left-wingers? Oh that's right, they are in the government, and doing fine. It's the poor people with free-gov-care, that are left to day.
What about those people on waiting lists in Canada? Where are the left-wingers there? Oh that's right, they are on a flight to the US to get care.
You people talk about caring, but you are the least caring people in this world.
While we are at it, charitable deductions should not be a deduction. What waiting list in Canada?
Canada has massive waiting lists.
In fact, there are companies in Canada, that help Canadians escape their horrible system.
Timely Medical | Timely Surgery at Affordable Prices
Timely Medical in Canada, was started by a doctor who was sick and tired of seeing his patients suffer for years on end, waiting for health care.
Now he has a business helping people find care, primarily in the US, to avoid the years-long wait in Canada that is routine.
Think about that... if health care is free.... why are so many thousands on thousands, willing to pay a company, to escape their 'free' system? The company has been in business 14 years, thanks to the suffering caused by socialized gov-care in Canada.
So now you're on the VA?The fact is that most Republicans couldn’t care less about millions of Americans who can’t afford health insurance, or who otherwise don’t have access to affordable health care.
Really? Because republicans donate more to charity care, than left-wingers ever do.
If anyone doesn't care, it's the left-wing.
Where are the caring left-wingers in Venezuela. I see right-wingers over there providing free care. Where are the left-wingers? Oh that's right, they are in the government, and doing fine. It's the poor people with free-gov-care, that are left to day.
What about those people on waiting lists in Canada? Where are the left-wingers there? Oh that's right, they are on a flight to the US to get care.
You people talk about caring, but you are the least caring people in this world.
While we are at it, charitable deductions should not be a deduction. What waiting list in Canada?
Canada has massive waiting lists.
In fact, there are companies in Canada, that help Canadians escape their horrible system.
Timely Medical | Timely Surgery at Affordable Prices
Timely Medical in Canada, was started by a doctor who was sick and tired of seeing his patients suffer for years on end, waiting for health care.
Now he has a business helping people find care, primarily in the US, to avoid the years-long wait in Canada that is routine.
Think about that... if health care is free.... why are so many thousands on thousands, willing to pay a company, to escape their 'free' system? The company has been in business 14 years, thanks to the suffering caused by socialized gov-care in Canada.
Wait times.
Wait times for joint replacements and cataract surgery growing in much of Canada
And it's a misnomer to say we don't have wait times in the US too. I'll be on Medicare in less than two years, and I'll still have my employer sponsored HC. I'm due for a cataract removal and colonoscopy. I'm only going to pay for one now because when I'm on Medicare I'll have no out of pocket expenses for Medicare even on out of hospital services
People play the medicare game all the time. And we also put off procedures until out medical savings accounts are fully funded.
Not that I'm a great admirer of single payer, but the Canadian horror stories are overplayed.
My brother in law, is a Iraq vet. He was put on a waiting list to get hand surgery. After years of waiting, he said screw it, and got a private doctor. His had was fixed up in under 2 weeks.
Yeah, we have wait times, because we have gov-care in the US already.
Lucky Dog: How Being a Veterinarian Saved My Life by Sarah Boston
Wait times are not over played. Not at all. They are the reality of Canada, and many parts of Europe.
Dogs get better care in Canada, than humans do, thanks to socialized medicine.
I'm already hearing about plans for Medicare X...essentially putting a properly priced Medicare plan on the Exchanges for anyone to buy,If I were the Democrats, I'd be lighting a candle in a church somewhere to thank God for Trump's and the GOP's hoaxing.
I'd be smiling down on the Rube Herd so willfully going along with the hoax.
They just make it that much easier to achieve single payer.
It's almost as if Trump were hoaxing the pseudocon rubes to help the Democrats achieve their long term goals...
If the court case strikes down the ACA...that's where we are going.
and medicare has been, and is the brunt of RW rage - now they get to be socialists by their own design !
oooooooooooooh the irony -
While we are at it, charitable deductions should not be a deduction.
So now you're on the VA?Really? Because republicans donate more to charity care, than left-wingers ever do.
If anyone doesn't care, it's the left-wing.
Where are the caring left-wingers in Venezuela. I see right-wingers over there providing free care. Where are the left-wingers? Oh that's right, they are in the government, and doing fine. It's the poor people with free-gov-care, that are left to day.
What about those people on waiting lists in Canada? Where are the left-wingers there? Oh that's right, they are on a flight to the US to get care.
You people talk about caring, but you are the least caring people in this world.
While we are at it, charitable deductions should not be a deduction. What waiting list in Canada?
Canada has massive waiting lists.
In fact, there are companies in Canada, that help Canadians escape their horrible system.
Timely Medical | Timely Surgery at Affordable Prices
Timely Medical in Canada, was started by a doctor who was sick and tired of seeing his patients suffer for years on end, waiting for health care.
Now he has a business helping people find care, primarily in the US, to avoid the years-long wait in Canada that is routine.
Think about that... if health care is free.... why are so many thousands on thousands, willing to pay a company, to escape their 'free' system? The company has been in business 14 years, thanks to the suffering caused by socialized gov-care in Canada.
Wait times.
Wait times for joint replacements and cataract surgery growing in much of Canada
And it's a misnomer to say we don't have wait times in the US too. I'll be on Medicare in less than two years, and I'll still have my employer sponsored HC. I'm due for a cataract removal and colonoscopy. I'm only going to pay for one now because when I'm on Medicare I'll have no out of pocket expenses for Medicare even on out of hospital services
People play the medicare game all the time. And we also put off procedures until out medical savings accounts are fully funded.
Not that I'm a great admirer of single payer, but the Canadian horror stories are overplayed.
My brother in law, is a Iraq vet. He was put on a waiting list to get hand surgery. After years of waiting, he said screw it, and got a private doctor. His had was fixed up in under 2 weeks.
Yeah, we have wait times, because we have gov-care in the US already.
Lucky Dog: How Being a Veterinarian Saved My Life by Sarah Boston
Wait times are not over played. Not at all. They are the reality of Canada, and many parts of Europe.
Dogs get better care in Canada, than humans do, thanks to socialized medicine.
I hope your brother is OK.
I'm not a big fan of Canadian care because all I know is what I read. I know I'm no fan of US based care where you pay a basically flat fee and consume all you can.
LOL...Derp.The Washington Post reports that the Republican Party has no health care plan.
"Not only is there no such health-care overhaul in the works on Capitol Hill — there are no plans to make such a plan, and most Republicans hope the president will drop the idea of trying to come up with a replacement for the Affordable Care Act."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...005bd0-5264-11e9-8d28-f5149e5a2fda_story.html
It's true. The Republicans have no plan, because the only good plan would be to simply repeal the entire system, and go back to free-market system. While that would result in the best possible care for the most possible people, without corporate welfare across the economy.... it would also result in the Republicans being voted out of office.
Republicans are politicians first, and protectors of the country second.... which is only different than Democrats in that Democrats don't care at all about the country, as long as they have power.
So they are not going to come up with a health care plan.
The Dems already came up with and enacted healthcare. The Repubs, if they were smart, would build on what is already existing rather than trying to destroy it. Like it or not, a lot of people use it, like it, depend on it.
Yeah, we know they did. That's why everyone is worse off today. I have no health insurance right now, specifically because of the Democrats.
If they were smart, they wouldn't have harmed everyone to begin with.
I'm already hearing about plans for Medicare X...essentially putting a properly priced Medicare plan on the Exchanges for anyone to buy,If I were the Democrats, I'd be lighting a candle in a church somewhere to thank God for Trump's and the GOP's hoaxing.
I'd be smiling down on the Rube Herd so willfully going along with the hoax.
They just make it that much easier to achieve single payer.
It's almost as if Trump were hoaxing the pseudocon rubes to help the Democrats achieve their long term goals...
If the court case strikes down the ACA...that's where we are going.
and medicare has been, and is the brunt of RW rage - now they get to be socialists by their own design !
oooooooooooooh the irony -
Yeah, because it drives up health care costs. You people keep complaining about how much health care costs, and then pointing to the very cause of the problem, and saying you want more of it.
You are not thinking logically. We're pointing to the facts.
Politicians, when asked about their healthcare plan, should answer "I have no healthcare plan, none whatsoever, and it's about time we stopped talking about it."
The best healthcare plan is to privatize all health insurance and healthcare. In other words, your political party should have no healthcare plan other than to get government out of it.
LOL...Derp.The Washington Post reports that the Republican Party has no health care plan.
"Not only is there no such health-care overhaul in the works on Capitol Hill — there are no plans to make such a plan, and most Republicans hope the president will drop the idea of trying to come up with a replacement for the Affordable Care Act."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...005bd0-5264-11e9-8d28-f5149e5a2fda_story.html
It's true. The Republicans have no plan, because the only good plan would be to simply repeal the entire system, and go back to free-market system. While that would result in the best possible care for the most possible people, without corporate welfare across the economy.... it would also result in the Republicans being voted out of office.
Republicans are politicians first, and protectors of the country second.... which is only different than Democrats in that Democrats don't care at all about the country, as long as they have power.
So they are not going to come up with a health care plan.
The Dems already came up with and enacted healthcare. The Repubs, if they were smart, would build on what is already existing rather than trying to destroy it. Like it or not, a lot of people use it, like it, depend on it.
Yeah, we know they did. That's why everyone is worse off today. I have no health insurance right now, specifically because of the Democrats.
If they were smart, they wouldn't have harmed everyone to begin with.
LOL.....
You have no health insurance because of you.
I'm already hearing about plans for Medicare X...essentially putting a properly priced Medicare plan on the Exchanges for anyone to buy,If I were the Democrats, I'd be lighting a candle in a church somewhere to thank God for Trump's and the GOP's hoaxing.
I'd be smiling down on the Rube Herd so willfully going along with the hoax.
They just make it that much easier to achieve single payer.
It's almost as if Trump were hoaxing the pseudocon rubes to help the Democrats achieve their long term goals...
If the court case strikes down the ACA...that's where we are going.
and medicare has been, and is the brunt of RW rage - now they get to be socialists by their own design !
oooooooooooooh the irony -
Yeah, because it drives up health care costs. You people keep complaining about how much health care costs, and then pointing to the very cause of the problem, and saying you want more of it.
You are not thinking logically. We're pointing to the facts.
Medicare is a cost controller, not a cost driver.
In a private system, the method of 'controlling costs' is by shifting the cost of money-losing patients of the government, to money-making patients of insurance companies.
LOL...Derp.The Washington Post reports that the Republican Party has no health care plan.
"Not only is there no such health-care overhaul in the works on Capitol Hill — there are no plans to make such a plan, and most Republicans hope the president will drop the idea of trying to come up with a replacement for the Affordable Care Act."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...005bd0-5264-11e9-8d28-f5149e5a2fda_story.html
It's true. The Republicans have no plan, because the only good plan would be to simply repeal the entire system, and go back to free-market system. While that would result in the best possible care for the most possible people, without corporate welfare across the economy.... it would also result in the Republicans being voted out of office.
Republicans are politicians first, and protectors of the country second.... which is only different than Democrats in that Democrats don't care at all about the country, as long as they have power.
So they are not going to come up with a health care plan.
The Dems already came up with and enacted healthcare. The Repubs, if they were smart, would build on what is already existing rather than trying to destroy it. Like it or not, a lot of people use it, like it, depend on it.
Yeah, we know they did. That's why everyone is worse off today. I have no health insurance right now, specifically because of the Democrats.
If they were smart, they wouldn't have harmed everyone to begin with.
LOL.....
You have no health insurance because of you.
No, I have no health insurance, because in 2006, before Obama screwed it up, I could get a $67/month health insurance policy, that covered doctors visits, and prescriptions, and had a $2,000 deductible, with a million dollar cap.
By 2014, the cheapest policy was $300/month, with a $7,000 deductible, and today the policies are worse.
It is now better for me to not have insurance, and then just get insurance when I get sick, since the insurance companies can't deny me for pre-existing conditions.
Granted, this is why premiums have more than doubled, and deductibles have quadrupled, but that's the system the idiotic democraps setup.
LOL......
