Republicans: Obama must defend Christian values

[Yurt]

Maybe they want a "Christian Values" board in the government..

WASHINGTON (AP) — Leading Republicans on Thursday insisted that America's leaders must do more to defend Christian values at home and abroad, blaming President Barack Obama for attacks on religious freedom as they courted social conservatives expected to play a critical role in the next presidential contest.

"Those of us inspired by Judeo-Christian values...have an obligation to our country and to our fellow man to use our positions of influence to highlight those values," Florida's Sen. Marco Rubio said at a conference hosted by the Faith and Freedom Coalition, a group led by long-time Christian political activist Ralph Reed.

There not even hiding the calls for Theocracy anymore..

Take a gander at the Constitution, folks:

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

The VERY first amendment PROHIBITS the President from advocating for Christian, Hindi, Muslim, Buddhist or any other religion's "values".

where did they call for a theocracy?

please cite.

 

[The T]

Maybe they want a "Christian Values" board in the government..

WASHINGTON (AP) — Leading Republicans on Thursday insisted that America's leaders must do more to defend Christian values at home and abroad, blaming President Barack Obama for attacks on religious freedom as they courted social conservatives expected to play a critical role in the next presidential contest.

"Those of us inspired by Judeo-Christian values...have an obligation to our country and to our fellow man to use our positions of influence to highlight those values," Florida's Sen. Marco Rubio said at a conference hosted by the Faith and Freedom Coalition, a group led by long-time Christian political activist Ralph Reed.

There not even hiding the calls for Theocracy anymore..

Take a gander at the Constitution, folks:

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

The VERY first amendment PROHIBITS the President from advocating for Christian, Hindi, Muslim, Buddhist or any other religion's "values".

CITE THAT PLEASE?

Where does it state that?

The VERY first amendment PROHIBITS the President from advocating for Christian, Hindi, Muslim, Buddhist or any other religion's "values".

It doesn't EXIST, does it?

I guess you'll next excoriate FDR for his CHRISTAIN PRAYER for the troops and this nation and LIBERTY as our troops embarked on their trip to NORMANDY...right?

FUCKING LYING MORON.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMy1ZLyaSqk"]D-day FDR prayer. (two steps from hell, heart of courage) - YouTube[/ame]

 

[koshergrl]

Of course the president can advocate for Christian values, just as he can for Muslim or Buddhist or Hindu values. Our constitution allows us the freedom to advocate whatever values we see fit, regardless of our position in society.

As you can see, atheist progressives advocate for the values of pigs and death cults all the time.

 

[The T]

Of course the president can advocate for Christian values, just as he can for Muslim or Buddhist or Hindu values. Our constitution allows us the freedom to advocate whatever values we see fit, regardless of our position in society.

As you can see, atheist progressives advocate for the values of pigs and death cults all the time.

And mean to perpetuate the chaos until they get what they want...ultimate power...Constitution be damned.

 

[NYcarbineer]

So what's the Christian value on abortion?

1. use the law to ban abortion because abortion is wrong

2. teach that abortion is wrong, but allow women to make the decision personally and individually, without a governmental ban

3. teach that abortion is permissible, at least in many cases.

(all three can be found in Christian 'values' depending on which Christians you're talking to)

abortion is murder. When is murder permissible in your mind?

That's your value. I want to know the Christian value. If we are expected to defend Christian values,

the least Christians should do is tell us what they agree ARE Christian values.

Denominations like the Presbyterians and Methodists are pro-choice on abortion. Are they not Christian?

 

[koshergrl]

Christians maintain that murder is wrong.

As he knows.

He wants to pull out some old biblical verse, use it out of context and pretend that God is pro-abortion.

They're not original, the baby killers.

 

[Mustang]

Of course the president can advocate for Christian values, just as he can for Muslim or Buddhist or Hindu values. Our constitution allows us the freedom to advocate whatever values we see fit, regardless of our position in society.

As you can see, atheist progressives advocate for the values of pigs and death cults all the time.

And mean to perpetuate the chaos until they get what they want...ultimate power...Constitution be damned.

Ultimate power? What is that? Something to do with a Shazam ring? You know, Captain Marvel?

 

[Redfish]

So what's the Christian value on abortion?

1. use the law to ban abortion because abortion is wrong

2. teach that abortion is wrong, but allow women to make the decision personally and individually, without a governmental ban

3. teach that abortion is permissible, at least in many cases.

(all three can be found in Christian 'values' depending on which Christians you're talking to)

abortion is murder. When is murder permissible in your mind?

That's your value. I want to know the Christian value. If we are expected to defend Christian values,

the least Christians should do is tell us what they agree ARE Christian values.

Denominations like the Presbyterians and Methodists are pro-choice on abortion. Are they not Christian?

Most Christians and many other religions believe that life begins at conception. Do you know that in China you are considered to be one year old at birth.

That abortion is murder is not just my value, it is the value of a majority of the people on earth. You baby killers are the minority view.

 

[guno]

No one believes Albaraqi Hussein is a Christian.

Only the christer goyim care what anyone is

 

[Redfish]

Of course the president can advocate for Christian values, just as he can for Muslim or Buddhist or Hindu values. Our constitution allows us the freedom to advocate whatever values we see fit, regardless of our position in society.

As you can see, atheist progressives advocate for the values of pigs and death cults all the time.

And mean to perpetuate the chaos until they get what they want...ultimate power...Constitution be damned.

Ultimate power? What is that? Something to do with a Shazam ring? You know, Captain Marvel?

NO its what you get when you allow tyrants like obama, hitler, lenin, mao, and pol pot to gain control of a country.

 

[Mustang]

Christians maintain that murder is wrong.

As he knows.

He wants to pull out some old biblical verse, use it out of context and pretend that God is pro-abortion.

They're not original, the baby killers.

Really? Christians maintain that murder is wrong?

I think you'll find that all major societies, and all major religions maintain that murder is wrong. Illegal too!

 

[Vigilante]

So what's the Christian value on abortion?

1. use the law to ban abortion because abortion is wrong

2. teach that abortion is wrong, but allow women to make the decision personally and individually, without a governmental ban

3. teach that abortion is permissible, at least in many cases.

(all three can be found in Christian 'values' depending on which Christians you're talking to)

abortion is murder. When is murder permissible in your mind?

That's your value. I want to know the Christian value. If we are expected to defend Christian values,

the least Christians should do is tell us what they agree ARE Christian values.

Denominations like the Presbyterians and Methodists are pro-choice on abortion. Are they not Christian?

Yes, we see that your UP on all the latest issues in religion.... LEARN SOMETHING!

Presbyterian Lay Committee Board of Directors Repudiates Action of PCUSA GA on Redefining Marriage

The Aquila Report ^


DETROIT, MICHIGAN, JUNE 19, 2014 – A statement of protest by the Presbyterian Lay Committee repudiating the action of the General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church USA to redefine marriage. The 221st General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church (USA) has approved both an Authoritative Interpretation of the Constitution and an amendment to redefine marriage. In the name of 1.8 million Presbyterians nationwide, the General Assembly has committed an express repudiation of the Bible, the mutually agreed upon Confessions of the PCUSA, thousands of years of faithfulness to God’s clear commands and the denominational ordination vows of each concurring commissioner. This...

 

[guno]

The progressive vision:

Euthanasia
Abortion
Assisted suicide
Eugenics
Animalistic sex
Self gratification
Totalitarianism
Starvation

General Sherman should have done away with the southern Baptists at the end of the war , no southern baptist church should have been left standing

 

[Mustang]

And mean to perpetuate the chaos until they get what they want...ultimate power...Constitution be damned.

Ultimate power? What is that? Something to do with a Shazam ring? You know, Captain Marvel?

NO its what you get when you allow tyrants like obama, hitler, lenin, mao, and pol pot to gain control of a country.

I think you and other members of the right are experiencing a break with reality since comparing President Obama with dictators and despots like Hitler, Lenin, Mao, and Pol Pot just makes you guys look like loons.

But hey, go for it!

 

[koshergrl]

I think we are past the point where you can pretend that the whole world doesn't recognize Obama and the current admin for what they are.

Dictators, despots...like Hitler, Lenin, Mao and Pol Pot.

The loons are the fanatics who defend them. Thank goodness you're a tiny, hysterical, and easily identifiable minority.

 

[Vigilante]

The progressive vision:

Euthanasia
Abortion
Assisted suicide
Eugenics
Animalistic sex
Self gratification
Totalitarianism
Starvation

General Sherman should have done away with the southern Baptists at the end of the war , no southern baptist church should have been left standing

A majority of Southern Baptist are black, including their current president Mr. Luter....right on time for the liberals to bring out their true feelings about blacks! Congrats guano!

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

WASHINGTON (AP) — Leading Republicans on Thursday insisted that America's leaders must do more to defend Christian values at home and abroad, blaming President Barack Obama for attacks on religious freedom as they courted social conservatives expected to play a critical role in the next presidential contest.

Republicans: Obama Must Defend Christian Values - ABC News

Unsurprisingly, this makes no sense whatsoever.

From whom or what, exactly, is the president supposed to ‘defend’ Christian values, particularly ‘from abroad.’

The only context in which citizens’ civil liberties are in need of ‘defending’ is when government seeks to restrict religious liberty in violation of the Free Exercise Clause. And as with all other persons in the United States, Christians are at liberty to file suit in Federal court should they perceive their civil liberties violated by the state, and that’s the responsibility of the Judiciary, not the Executive, where President Obama is not subject to any ‘blame.’

Obviously this is an inane and partisan lie contrived by the right, a straw man fallacy manifested by conservatives in an ignorant and failed attempt to propagate the lie that the president is somehow ‘hostile’ to Christians, when in fact nothing could be further from the truth, as the president himself is a Christian.

Clearly the partisan right continues to suffer from ODS, and the condition is only getting worse.

 

[NYcarbineer]

abortion is murder. When is murder permissible in your mind?

That's your value. I want to know the Christian value. If we are expected to defend Christian values,

the least Christians should do is tell us what they agree ARE Christian values.

Denominations like the Presbyterians and Methodists are pro-choice on abortion. Are they not Christian?

Yes, we see that your UP on all the latest issues in religion.... LEARN SOMETHING!

Presbyterian Lay Committee Board of Directors Repudiates Action of PCUSA GA on Redefining Marriage

The Aquila Report ^


DETROIT, MICHIGAN, JUNE 19, 2014 – A statement of protest by the Presbyterian Lay Committee repudiating the action of the General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church USA to redefine marriage. The 221st General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church (USA) has approved both an Authoritative Interpretation of the Constitution and an amendment to redefine marriage. In the name of 1.8 million Presbyterians nationwide, the General Assembly has committed an express repudiation of the Bible, the mutually agreed upon Confessions of the PCUSA, thousands of years of faithfulness to God’s clear commands and the denominational ordination vows of each concurring commissioner. This...

What does that have to do with abortion?

 

[bodecea]

Maybe they want a "Christian Values" board in the government..

WASHINGTON (AP) — Leading Republicans on Thursday insisted that America's leaders must do more to defend Christian values at home and abroad, blaming President Barack Obama for attacks on religious freedom as they courted social conservatives expected to play a critical role in the next presidential contest.

"Those of us inspired by Judeo-Christian values...have an obligation to our country and to our fellow man to use our positions of influence to highlight those values," Florida's Sen. Marco Rubio said at a conference hosted by the Faith and Freedom Coalition, a group led by long-time Christian political activist Ralph Reed.

There not even hiding the calls for Theocracy anymore..

Take a gander at the Constitution, folks:

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

The VERY first amendment PROHIBITS the President from advocating for Christian, Hindi, Muslim, Buddhist or any other religion's "values".

What EXACTLY are these "christian values"?

 

[NYcarbineer]

abortion is murder. When is murder permissible in your mind?

That's your value. I want to know the Christian value. If we are expected to defend Christian values,

the least Christians should do is tell us what they agree ARE Christian values.

Denominations like the Presbyterians and Methodists are pro-choice on abortion. Are they not Christian?

Yes, we see that your UP on all the latest issues in religion.... LEARN SOMETHING!

Presbyterian Lay Committee Board of Directors Repudiates Action of PCUSA GA on Redefining Marriage

The Aquila Report ^


DETROIT, MICHIGAN, JUNE 19, 2014 – A statement of protest by the Presbyterian Lay Committee repudiating the action of the General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church USA to redefine marriage. The 221st General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church (USA) has approved both an Authoritative Interpretation of the Constitution and an amendment to redefine marriage. In the name of 1.8 million Presbyterians nationwide, the General Assembly has committed an express repudiation of the Bible, the mutually agreed upon Confessions of the PCUSA, thousands of years of faithfulness to God’s clear commands and the denominational ordination vows of each concurring commissioner. This...

So your point is what?

Presbyterians, who are all Christians, are split on the issue of same sex marriage?

Wouldn't that actually be PROOF that neither side can lay legitimate claim to their position as the genuine Christian value?

And wouldn't that thus apply all across Christendom in America, which is similarly split on the issue?

If the Christians in America are split on the issue of same sex marriage,

which side then is the President supposed to defend, when, in the admonition of the thread title,

he is supposed to defend 'Christian values'?