Republicans Own Detroit Bankruptcy

compared to 17%, you bet it is. of course remember it was republicans who brought it down from the carter highs, not obama. Also remember if you had your money in a bank under nixon or ford, they were paying you 5% . what do you get under obama? less then 1% Sweet. but so typical of a lib not to look at the total picture

Blame your bank. Presidents do not set mortgage rates or savings account rates.

Inflation never rose higher than 12% under Carter.
ROFL you say that like 12% annual inflation is a good thing.:cuckoo:
I'm saying it didn't all happen under Carter.

But wingnuts give all the blame to Carter.

Just like you blame Obama for cleaning up Bush's mess.
 
Peach, I'm sure you are a very nice person, but you have no business discussing politics. You just don't know very much. And you don't pay attention to what you are typing.

If we go by your "logic" (bolded), then Obama being re-elected means that things have been good under him. Correct?

It's just like the OP - you wingnuts cannot talk out of both sides of your mouths and have it both ways.

As for Carter's re-election, he was primaried from the Left by Edward Kennedy. It was very divisive and split the Democratic Party.

If you knew more about politics, you would already be aware of this. Reagan barely beat Carter, and would have lost to a united Democratic Party.


I was in my twenties under Carter and he was a terrible President.
You are the one who should not be discussing politics and have no clue about facts.

I was a registered Conservative Democrat back then.

1980 Primaries
Carter - 51.13%
Kennedy - 37.58

The 1980 convention was notable as it was the last time in the 20th century, for either major party, that a candidate tried to get delegates released from their voting commitments. This was done by Massachusetts Senator Edward M. Kennedy.
Votes at the convention.
Carter - 63.63%
Kennedy - 34.38%
The Dems voted for Carter by almost 30%

You are upset that Conservative and Moderate Dem's did not want Kennedy.
Democrats who supported many conservative policies were instrumental in the election of Republican President Ronald Reagan in 1980. The "Reagan Democrats" were Democrats before the Reagan years, and afterward.

Regan barely beat Carter?

Popular vote
Regan - 50.8%
Carter - 41.0%

Electoral vote
Regan - 489
Carter -49

No, I am upset that Kennedy challenged Carter, giving the office to Reagan.

And why did you post percentage of popular vote instead of the vote totals? :lol:

Synth, Kennedy didn't run in the general.

Carter WANTED to run against Reagan and bragged about how he was going to beat him in a landslide

That kind of sounds like Obama bragging he fixed Detroit

Oops and Oops
 
compared to 17%, you bet it is. of course remember it was republicans who brought it down from the carter highs, not obama. Also remember if you had your money in a bank under nixon or ford, they were paying you 5% . what do you get under obama? less then 1% Sweet. but so typical of a lib not to look at the total picture

Blame your bank. Presidents do not set mortgage rates or savings account rates.

Inflation never rose higher than 12% under Carter.





So, what you're telling us is you are incapable of telling the truth. Reagan obliterated Carter and inflation under good old Jimmy got to a high of 18% as Time magazine reported....

"He promises budget cuts and credit curbs, but more is needed

As Jimmy Carter stepped before the television cameras in the East Room of the White House last Friday, his task was not just to proclaim another new anti-inflation program but to calm a national alarm that had begun to border on panic. Inflation and interest rates, both topping 18%, are so far beyond anything that Americans have experienced in peacetime—and so far beyond anything that U.S. financial markets are set up to handle—as to inspire a contagion of fear. Usually confident businessmen and bankers have begun..."


Read more: Jimmy Carter vs. Inflation - TIME


"hovered around 12% at the time of the 1980 election campaign"

Jimmy Carter on Budget & Economy
 
Blame your bank. Presidents do not set mortgage rates or savings account rates.

Inflation never rose higher than 12% under Carter.
ROFL you say that like 12% annual inflation is a good thing.:cuckoo:
I'm saying it didn't all happen under Carter.

But wingnuts give all the blame to Carter.

Just like you blame Obama for cleaning up Bush's mess.

5 years and STILL blame BOOOOOOOSSSSHHHHHHH

:rolleyes:

Was Bush a great fiscal President? No.... nobody said he was.. Did Obamalama inherit some of Bush's crap?? Yep.... Did Obama get most everything he wanted in the first 2 years and pretty much double down on bad practice?? Yes indeed
 
I was in my twenties under Carter and he was a terrible President.
You are the one who should not be discussing politics and have no clue about facts.

I was a registered Conservative Democrat back then.

1980 Primaries
Carter - 51.13%
Kennedy - 37.58

The 1980 convention was notable as it was the last time in the 20th century, for either major party, that a candidate tried to get delegates released from their voting commitments. This was done by Massachusetts Senator Edward M. Kennedy.
Votes at the convention.
Carter - 63.63%
Kennedy - 34.38%
The Dems voted for Carter by almost 30%

You are upset that Conservative and Moderate Dem's did not want Kennedy.
Democrats who supported many conservative policies were instrumental in the election of Republican President Ronald Reagan in 1980. The "Reagan Democrats" were Democrats before the Reagan years, and afterward.

Regan barely beat Carter?

Popular vote
Regan - 50.8%
Carter - 41.0%

Electoral vote
Regan - 489
Carter -49

No, I am upset that Kennedy challenged Carter, giving the office to Reagan.

And why did you post percentage of popular vote instead of the vote totals? :lol:

Synth, Kennedy didn't run in the general.

No, he weakened Carter in the Primary.

You wingnuts should be well aware of that phenomena, after the Republican Clown Car weakened Romney.
 
ROFL you say that like 12% annual inflation is a good thing.:cuckoo:
I'm saying it didn't all happen under Carter.

But wingnuts give all the blame to Carter.

Just like you blame Obama for cleaning up Bush's mess.

5 years and STILL blame BOOOOOOOSSSSHHHHHHH

:rolleyes:

Was Bush a great fiscal President? No.... nobody said he was.. Did Obamalama inherit some of Bush's crap?? Yep....

Some???? :lol:



Did Obama get most everything he wanted in the first 2 years and pretty much double down on bad practice?? Yes indeed


Yeah, that's why GTMO has been closed since January 2009. Moron.
 
Blame your bank. Presidents do not set mortgage rates or savings account rates.

Inflation never rose higher than 12% under Carter.





So, what you're telling us is you are incapable of telling the truth. Reagan obliterated Carter and inflation under good old Jimmy got to a high of 18% as Time magazine reported....

"He promises budget cuts and credit curbs, but more is needed

As Jimmy Carter stepped before the television cameras in the East Room of the White House last Friday, his task was not just to proclaim another new anti-inflation program but to calm a national alarm that had begun to border on panic. Inflation and interest rates, both topping 18%, are so far beyond anything that Americans have experienced in peacetime—and so far beyond anything that U.S. financial markets are set up to handle—as to inspire a contagion of fear. Usually confident businessmen and bankers have begun..."


Read more: Jimmy Carter vs. Inflation - TIME


"hovered around 12% at the time of the 1980 election campaign"

Jimmy Carter on Budget & Economy

Historical Inflation Rate | InflationData.com
 
Can any liberal tell us what bush did to destroy the economy? I'm still waiting for any lib to give us a piece of legislation passed under bush the led to the destruction of the economy, housing foreclosures, anything. They all flap their gums, but for the last 16 years, not one lib has been able to name any legislation passed by the bush administration that supports their claims.

Why is that?
 
I'm saying it didn't all happen under Carter.

But wingnuts give all the blame to Carter.

Just like you blame Obama for cleaning up Bush's mess.

5 years and STILL blame BOOOOOOOSSSSHHHHHHH

:rolleyes:

Was Bush a great fiscal President? No.... nobody said he was.. Did Obamalama inherit some of Bush's crap?? Yep....

Some???? :lol:



Did Obama get most everything he wanted in the first 2 years and pretty much double down on bad practice?? Yes indeed


Yeah, that's why GTMO has been closed since January 2009. Moron.

Gitmo is fiscal talk??

Move goal posts some???

You are a flat out liar.. as shown by actual numbers.. YET AGAIN
 
8.4% is low? If that was the rate now, you all would be screaming that Obama is destroying the world! :lol:

You wingnuts are hilarious!

compared to 17%, you bet it is. of course remember it was republicans who brought it down from the carter highs, not obama. Also remember if you had your money in a bank under nixon or ford, they were paying you 5% . what do you get under obama? less then 1% Sweet. but so typical of a lib not to look at the total picture

Blame your bank. Presidents do not set mortgage rates or savings account rates.

Inflation never rose higher than 12% under Carter.


Presidents and political policies does effect the interest rates, including inflation.
In March of 1980 under Carter, inflation rose to 14.8%.
 
I'm saying it didn't all happen under Carter.

But wingnuts give all the blame to Carter.

Just like you blame Obama for cleaning up Bush's mess.

5 years and STILL blame BOOOOOOOSSSSHHHHHHH

:rolleyes:

Was Bush a great fiscal President? No.... nobody said he was.. Did Obamalama inherit some of Bush's crap?? Yep....

Some???? :lol:



Did Obama get most everything he wanted in the first 2 years and pretty much double down on bad practice?? Yes indeed


Yeah, that's why GTMO has been closed since January 2009. Moron.

yea, he never eve tried to act on that one. he was too busy siphoning off money for prok projects
 
Can any liberal tell us what bush did to destroy the economy? I'm still waiting for any lib to give us a piece of legislation passed under bush the led to the destruction of the economy, housing foreclosures, anything. They all flap their gums, but for the last 16 years, not one lib has been able to name any legislation passed by the bush administration that supports their claims.

Why is that?

Bush started us down this decade plus war against fear. And in doing so he buckled to tons of democrat spending and waste. I blame him for most of this. He could have said no to homeland security. All we needed was to put friggin doors on the pilot's cabin. Bush freaked out. Spazed and spent trillions because of his fear of a second attack.

In short Bush was a neocon war hawk socialist.

Bush significantly increased the cost of medicare through his medicare drug reform. Bush significantly increased the cost and morbidity of education through no child left behind thus impacting our economy.


The libs will also point out that bush's tax cuts increased the debt and that is hurting the economy. And to a point they are correct. For example, he changed it so that a great many workers pay no taxes whatsoever, thus have no reason to vote against welfare and other sins of this government. Bush gave the green light to the bailouts.

Yeah Bush sucked. Dude we went from the most powerful nation ever on the face of the planet to a nation that hand pats it's citizens and retools it's DOD to focus on scarecrows that live in caves in the middle east.
 
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Two years into Obama's presidency, Right-wingers were saying it was now Obama's economy.

This means that two years into Rick Snyder's governorship, it is now his bankruptcy of Detroit.

The difference? Republican Rick Snyder has had a complete Republican majority in the State House and Senate, with no one to obstruct a thing.


This is pathetic.

BTW The Democrats had complete control over Congress for the first two years of his regime.

Read a book or something.
 
Hell at this point I would go so far as to argue that Bush was worse for our economy than even Carter and Obama. At least with Carter less was spent, and with Obama we have the republicans stopping him from making things to much worse for the last 3years.
 
Peach, I'm sure you are a very nice person, but you have no business discussing politics. You just don't know very much. And you don't pay attention to what you are typing.

If we go by your "logic" (bolded), then Obama being re-elected means that things have been good under him. Correct?

It's just like the OP - you wingnuts cannot talk out of both sides of your mouths and have it both ways.

As for Carter's re-election, he was primaried from the Left by Edward Kennedy. It was very divisive and split the Democratic Party.

If you knew more about politics, you would already be aware of this. Reagan barely beat Carter, and would have lost to a united Democratic Party.


I was in my twenties under Carter and he was a terrible President.
You are the one who should not be discussing politics and have no clue about facts.

I was a registered Conservative Democrat back then.

1980 Primaries
Carter - 51.13%
Kennedy - 37.58

The 1980 convention was notable as it was the last time in the 20th century, for either major party, that a candidate tried to get delegates released from their voting commitments. This was done by Massachusetts Senator Edward M. Kennedy.
Votes at the convention.
Carter - 63.63%
Kennedy - 34.38%
The Dems voted for Carter by almost 30%

You are upset that Conservative and Moderate Dem's did not want Kennedy.
Democrats who supported many conservative policies were instrumental in the election of Republican President Ronald Reagan in 1980. The "Reagan Democrats" were Democrats before the Reagan years, and afterward.

Regan barely beat Carter?

Popular vote
Regan - 50.8%
Carter - 41.0%

Electoral vote
Regan - 489
Carter -49

No, I am upset that Kennedy challenged Carter, giving the office to Reagan.

And why did you post percentage of popular vote instead of the vote totals? :lol:


So you wanted a stronger candidate other than Kennedy to run against Carter?
Who did you want to run?

Vote totals
Regan
43,903,230

Carter
35,480,115
 
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No, I am upset that Kennedy challenged Carter, giving the office to Reagan.

And why did you post percentage of popular vote instead of the vote totals? :lol:

Synth, Kennedy didn't run in the general.

No, he weakened Carter in the Primary.

You wingnuts should be well aware of that phenomena, after the Republican Clown Car weakened Romney.

but bush Sr didn't impact reagan at all in the primaries? :cuckoo: dude, you're like 0 f0r 150 on this thread.
 
Peach, I'm sure you are a very nice person, but you have no business discussing politics. You just don't know very much. And you don't pay attention to what you are typing.

If we go by your "logic" (bolded), then Obama being re-elected means that things have been good under him. Correct?

It's just like the OP - you wingnuts cannot talk out of both sides of your mouths and have it both ways.

As for Carter's re-election, he was primaried from the Left by Edward Kennedy. It was very divisive and split the Democratic Party.

If you knew more about politics, you would already be aware of this. Reagan barely beat Carter, and would have lost to a united Democratic Party.


I was in my twenties under Carter and he was a terrible President.
You are the one who should not be discussing politics and have no clue about facts.

I was a registered Conservative Democrat back then.

1980 Primaries
Carter - 51.13%
Kennedy - 37.58

The 1980 convention was notable as it was the last time in the 20th century, for either major party, that a candidate tried to get delegates released from their voting commitments. This was done by Massachusetts Senator Edward M. Kennedy.
Votes at the convention.
Carter - 63.63%
Kennedy - 34.38%
The Dems voted for Carter by almost 30%

You are upset that Conservative and Moderate Dem's did not want Kennedy.
Democrats who supported many conservative policies were instrumental in the election of Republican President Ronald Reagan in 1980. The "Reagan Democrats" were Democrats before the Reagan years, and afterward.

Regan barely beat Carter?

Popular vote
Regan - 50.8%
Carter - 41.0%

Electoral vote
Regan - 489
Carter -49

No, I am upset that Kennedy challenged Carter, giving the office to Reagan.

And why did you post percentage of popular vote instead of the vote totals? :lol:

He "weakened him" so badly he got beat in one of the largest margins EVER.

If you actually "paid" for an education you were way over charged for it.
 
Can any liberal tell us what bush did to destroy the economy? I'm still waiting for any lib to give us a piece of legislation passed under bush the led to the destruction of the economy, housing foreclosures, anything. They all flap their gums, but for the last 16 years, not one lib has been able to name any legislation passed by the bush administration that supports their claims.

Why is that?

Bush started us down this decade plus war against fear. And in doing so he buckled to tons of democrat spending and waste. I blame him for most of this. He could have said no to homeland security. All we needed was to put friggin doors on the pilot's cabin. Bush freaked out. Spazed and spent trillions because of his fear of a second attack.

In short Bush was a neocon war hawk socialist.

Bush significantly increased the cost of medicare through his medicare drug reform. Bush significantly increased the cost and morbidity of education through no child left behind thus impacting our economy.


The libs will also point out that bush's tax cuts increased the debt and that is hurting the economy. And to a point they are correct. For example, he changed it so that a great many workers pay no taxes whatsoever, thus have no reason to vote against welfare and other sins of this government. Bush gave the green light to the bailouts.

Yeah Bush sucked. Dude we went from the most powerful nation ever on the face of the planet to a nation that hand pats it's citizens and retools it's DOD to focus on scarecrows that live in caves in the middle east.


I agree with you.
These last two Presidents have really sucked.
One thing about Bush though he tried to get congress to stop the housing bubble from happening.
Too bad that 3 Dems held up all the bills being proposed out of the committee.
Then again, Bush was the one who proposed to eliminate the down-payment requirement for Federal Housing Administration loans.
The Government should never be in Housing in the first place, or Education, or Health Care.
 

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