Republicans taking Blame for Shutdown - Polls

[BDBoop]

Facts are funny things democrats... fact we freed slaves and saved the country... fact democrats want slaves and the destruction of the country...

No. Oh, you silly, silly man. Lincoln would repudiate the party if he were alive today.

Fact: If the last good and worthy thing the Republicans did was fifty years or so ago, your party sucks.

 

[Comunitee]

Facts are funny things democrats... fact we freed slaves and saved the country... fact democrats want slaves and the destruction of the country...

Fact: Liberals freed slaves and saved the country, conservatives fought this.

Fact: In the 1860s, the Republicans were the liberals and the Democrats were the conservatives.

Fact: The preceding fact is no longer true, and hasn't been for a very long time.

Fact: Conservatives in the South (and to a lesser extent in the West) started switching from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party after the Democrats made a conscious commitement to civil rights in the 1960s.

Fact: By saying, "Democrats want slaves and the destruction of the country," as if it were in the present tense, you are lying at worst, grossly misunderstanding at best.

 

[PMZ]

No Presidential Budget has ever exceeded 4 Trillion...let alone "cut" 6 Trillion....

One of the propaganda tricks of Republican media is to change everything to 10 year looks. It allows them to make little things look big. Sort of like hanging a magnifying glass on your fly.

They are masters at the act of pathological lying.

I don't think that it's pathological as much as all that they can do given what they have. No ideas, no solutions, no good people, no leadership, no qualified candidates, no platform or purpose. They have devolved to a media propaganda outlet. They thought that would be all that's necessary. And it is for their blind followers. But, that's not sufficient to be relevant to enough electorate to be a successful party.

 

[thanatos144]

Facts are funny things democrats... fact we freed slaves and saved the country... fact democrats want slaves and the destruction of the country...

Fact: Liberals freed slaves and saved the country, conservatives fought this.

Fact: In the 1860s, the Republicans were the liberals and the Democrats were the conservatives.

Fact: The preceding fact is no longer true, and hasn't been for a very long time.

Fact: Conservatives in the South (and to a lesser extent in the West) started switching from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party after the Democrats made a conscious commitement to civil rights in the 1960s.

Fact: By saying, "Democrats want slaves and the destruction of the country," as if it were in the present tense, you are lying at worst, grossly misunderstanding at best.

REPUB:LICANS freed the slaves. DEMOCRATS keep slaves only now they use poverty as their slave pen and abortion to control the population. Democrats still had klan mambers as reps till they died.

 

[Comunitee]

Facts are funny things democrats... fact we freed slaves and saved the country... fact democrats want slaves and the destruction of the country...

No. Oh, you silly, silly man. Lincoln would repudiate the party if he were alive today.

Fact: If the last good and worthy thing the Republicans did was fifty years or so ago, your party sucks.

They've done a few worthy things since, but most of those have been in cooperation with the Democrats. And a lot of the Republicans who worked with them on that would not fit in today's GOP. Honorable men like Jacob Javits and Richard Lugar got primaried out.

Let me use John McCain as an example:

* 1982: McCain runs for Congress for the first time, for the House. He gets elected to the Senate in 1986. At the time, he is considered a loyal foot-soldier in the Reagan Revolution, a staunch conservative. (Have you ever seen a liberal described as "staunch"? I can't recall ever seeing that.)

* 2000: McCain runs for the Republican nomination for President for the first time. Many people in his own party call him a "moderate," not a "true conservative" like George W. Bush.

* 2008: McCain finally gets the GOP Presidential nomination, because the "true conservatives" are divided, and there's no single candidate around whom they can coalesce and make the "anti-McCain." Many notable conservatives complain, actually calling McCain a "liberal."

John McCain's politics have hardly changed at all in the last 30 years. He is not a liberal, and he is not a moderate: He is very conservative. But his party has lurched to the right. The mainstream of the GOP has moved so far right, they can't see the mainstream of America with binoculars.

 

[thanatos144]

Facts are funny things democrats... fact we freed slaves and saved the country... fact democrats want slaves and the destruction of the country...

No. Oh, you silly, silly man. Lincoln would repudiate the party if he were alive today.

Fact: If the last good and worthy thing the Republicans did was fifty years or so ago, your party sucks.

They've done a few worthy things since, but most of those have been in cooperation with the Democrats. And a lot of the Republicans who worked with them on that would not fit in today's GOP. Honorable men like Jacob Javits and Richard Lugar got primaried out.

Let me use John McCain as an example:

* 1982: McCain runs for Congress for the first time, for the House. He gets elected to the Senate in 1986. At the time, he is considered a loyal foot-soldier in the Reagan Revolution, a staunch conservative. (Have you ever seen a liberal described as "staunch"? I can't recall ever seeing that.)

* 2000: McCain runs for the Republican nomination for President for the first time. Many people in his own party call him a "moderate," not a "true conservative" like George W. Bush.

* 2008: McCain finally gets the GOP Presidential nomination, because the "true conservatives" are divided, and there's no single candidate around whom they can coalesce and make the "anti-McCain." Many notable conservatives complain, actually calling McCain a "liberal."

John McCain's politics have hardly changed at all in the last 30 years. He is not a liberal, and he is not a moderate: He is very conservative. But his party has lurched to the right. The mainstream of the GOP has moved so far right, they can't see the mainstream of America with binoculars.

McCain is a democrat lying about his party.

 

[BDBoop]

Facts are funny things democrats... fact we freed slaves and saved the country... fact democrats want slaves and the destruction of the country...

No. Oh, you silly, silly man. Lincoln would repudiate the party if he were alive today.

Fact: If the last good and worthy thing the Republicans did was fifty years or so ago, your party sucks.

They've done a few worthy things since, but most of those have been in cooperation with the Democrats. And a lot of the Republicans who worked with them on that would not fit in today's GOP. Honorable men like Jacob Javits and Richard Lugar got primaried out.

Let me use John McCain as an example:

* 1982: McCain runs for Congress for the first time, for the House. He gets elected to the Senate in 1986. At the time, he is considered a loyal foot-soldier in the Reagan Revolution, a staunch conservative. (Have you ever seen a liberal described as "staunch"? I can't recall ever seeing that.)

* 2000: McCain runs for the Republican nomination for President for the first time. Many people in his own party call him a "moderate," not a "true conservative" like George W. Bush.

* 2008: McCain finally gets the GOP Presidential nomination, because the "true conservatives" are divided, and there's no single candidate around whom they can coalesce and make the "anti-McCain." Many notable conservatives complain, actually calling McCain a "liberal."

John McCain's politics have hardly changed at all in the last 30 years. He is not a liberal, and he is not a moderate: He is very conservative. But his party has lurched to the right. The mainstream of the GOP has moved so far right, they can't see the mainstream of America with binoculars.

And by "lurched," we man off the coast of Maine and right into the ocean, hard right.

I can tell you here and now: I am far from the only person who has noticed the Republicans are waking up to how big a mistake it was to hold the viper TPM to their collective bosom.

 

[Comunitee]

Facts are funny things democrats... fact we freed slaves and saved the country... fact democrats want slaves and the destruction of the country...

Fact: Liberals freed slaves and saved the country, conservatives fought this.

Fact: In the 1860s, the Republicans were the liberals and the Democrats were the conservatives.

Fact: The preceding fact is no longer true, and hasn't been for a very long time.

Fact: Conservatives in the South (and to a lesser extent in the West) started switching from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party after the Democrats made a conscious commitement to civil rights in the 1960s.

Fact: By saying, "Democrats want slaves and the destruction of the country," as if it were in the present tense, you are lying at worst, grossly misunderstanding at best.

REPUB:LICANS freed the slaves. DEMOCRATS keep slaves only know they use poverty as their slave pen and abortion to control the population. Democrats still had klan mambers as reps till they died.

The Democratic Party launched a WAR ON POVERTY. The Republican Party still opposes that war.

You know who tries to control the population? The Republican Party, with appeals to religion and guns. Senator Obama was right: These people DO clinge to their guns and their religion. He had the guts to say it, and that's one reason why he's no longer in the Senate, but in the White House.

The last Democrat to have been a Klan member was Robert Byrd, and he apologized for this. In contrast, Trent Lott spoke before the Council of Conservative Citizens -- CCC, get it? He has never apologized for that. and he was the LEADER of the Senate Republicans.

The Republicans are the party that still has things to answer for on race.

 

[Snookie]

An ABC News/Washington Post poll found that 74 percent of Americans disapprove of how Republicans have been handling the fiscal impasse, compared with 53 percent who disapprove of Obama’s approach.

“We’ve basically blown the last two months with some of our members, and a lot of the House, focused on a shiny object that was never going to happen,” said Senator Bob Corker, a Tennessee Republican. “So we find ourselves four days from a debt ceiling and all of a sudden, 72 hours ago, we began talking about the right subject, which is spending and entitlement reforms and those kinds of things.”

Senate Debt-Limit Deal Emerging With Time Running Short - Bloomberg

if the rest of teddy and the cruzzers are as stupid about the constitution as you he may actually get a few illegal votes.

 

[PMZ]

Facts are funny things democrats... fact we freed slaves and saved the country... fact democrats want slaves and the destruction of the country...

Fact: Liberals freed slaves and saved the country, conservatives fought this.

Fact: In the 1860s, the Republicans were the liberals and the Democrats were the conservatives.

Fact: The preceding fact is no longer true, and hasn't been for a very long time.

Fact: Conservatives in the South (and to a lesser extent in the West) started switching from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party after the Democrats made a conscious commitement to civil rights in the 1960s.

Fact: By saying, "Democrats want slaves and the destruction of the country," as if it were in the present tense, you are lying at worst, grossly misunderstanding at best.

REPUB:LICANS freed the slaves. DEMOCRATS keep slaves only now they use poverty as their slave pen and abortion to control the population. Democrats still had klan mambers as reps till they died.

Southern Democrats became Republicans in the 60s and 70s because they didn't believe that all of us should have the same rights. That was the birth of the modern Democratic Party and the beginning of the demise of the Republican Party. That’s when the Republican Party left me.

 

[thanatos144]

Fact: Liberals freed slaves and saved the country, conservatives fought this.

Fact: In the 1860s, the Republicans were the liberals and the Democrats were the conservatives.

Fact: The preceding fact is no longer true, and hasn't been for a very long time.

Fact: Conservatives in the South (and to a lesser extent in the West) started switching from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party after the Democrats made a conscious commitement to civil rights in the 1960s.

Fact: By saying, "Democrats want slaves and the destruction of the country," as if it were in the present tense, you are lying at worst, grossly misunderstanding at best.

REPUB:LICANS freed the slaves. DEMOCRATS keep slaves only know they use poverty as their slave pen and abortion to control the population. Democrats still had klan mambers as reps till they died.

The Democratic Party launched a WAR ON POVERTY. The Republican Party still opposes that war.

You know who tries to control the population? The Republican Party, with appeals to religion and guns. Senator Obama was right: These people DO clinge to their guns and their religion. He had the guts to say it, and that's one reason why he's no longer in the Senate, but in the White House.

The last Democrat to have been a Klan member was Robert Byrd, and he apologized for this. In contrast, Trent Lott spoke before the Council of Conservative Citizens -- CCC, get it? He has never apologized for that. and he was the LEADER of the Senate Republicans.

The Republicans are the party that still has things to answer for on race.

Launched the war on poverty by making regulations that guarantee people stay on it in broken families??? LOL Only idiots believe the great society was to help the poor LOL

 

[PMZ]

Facts are funny things democrats... fact we freed slaves and saved the country... fact democrats want slaves and the destruction of the country...

No. Oh, you silly, silly man. Lincoln would repudiate the party if he were alive today.

Fact: If the last good and worthy thing the Republicans did was fifty years or so ago, your party sucks.

They've done a few worthy things since, but most of those have been in cooperation with the Democrats. And a lot of the Republicans who worked with them on that would not fit in today's GOP. Honorable men like Jacob Javits and Richard Lugar got primaried out.

Let me use John McCain as an example:

* 1982: McCain runs for Congress for the first time, for the House. He gets elected to the Senate in 1986. At the time, he is considered a loyal foot-soldier in the Reagan Revolution, a staunch conservative. (Have you ever seen a liberal described as "staunch"? I can't recall ever seeing that.)

* 2000: McCain runs for the Republican nomination for President for the first time. Many people in his own party call him a "moderate," not a "true conservative" like George W. Bush.

* 2008: McCain finally gets the GOP Presidential nomination, because the "true conservatives" are divided, and there's no single candidate around whom they can coalesce and make the "anti-McCain." Many notable conservatives complain, actually calling McCain a "liberal."

John McCain's politics have hardly changed at all in the last 30 years. He is not a liberal, and he is not a moderate: He is very conservative. But his party has lurched to the right. The mainstream of the GOP has moved so far right, they can't see the mainstream of America with binoculars.

As good a synopsis as I've seen.

 

[PMZ]

Interesting revelation of how Congressional Republicans are trying to take away democracy and replace it with the founders original plutocracy.

http://video.search.yahoo.com/video...r=11aje77hm&ct=p&sort=new&age=0&fr=moz35&tt=b

 

[IlarMeilyr]

The Founders never set up or even tried to set up a "plutocracy;" and PMS probably doesn't even know what that silly term means.

 

[PMZ]

The Founders never set up or even tried to set up a "plutocracy;" and PMS probably doesn't even know what that silly term means.

When only white, wealthy, males can vote, it is, by definition, plutocracy.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

The Founders never set up or even tried to set up a "plutocracy;" and PMS probably doesn't even know what that silly term means.

When only white, wealthy, males can vote, it is, by definition, plutocracy.

Wrong.

See? I knew you had no fucking clue about the definition of the term you ignorantly bandy about.

 

[Camp]

The Founders never set up or even tried to set up a "plutocracy;" and PMS probably doesn't even know what that silly term means.

When only white, wealthy, males can vote, it is, by definition, plutocracy.

Wrong.

See? I knew you had no fucking clue about the definition of the term you ignorantly bandy about.

The "white" and "male" may not fit the exact definition, but the wealthy part does.

 

[birddog]

WOW! The dims are sure concerned about The Tea Party! Sounds like the dims are afraid of the truth!

 

[Toro]

The Founders never set up or even tried to set up a "plutocracy;" and PMS probably doesn't even know what that silly term means.

When only white, wealthy, males can vote, it is, by definition, plutocracy.

For the time period, it was a revolutionary democracy.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

When only white, wealthy, males can vote, it is, by definition, plutocracy.

Wrong.

See? I knew you had no fucking clue about the definition of the term you ignorantly bandy about.

The "white" and "male" may not fit the exact definition, but the wealthy part does.

No. Not really.

But at least that's closer to the actual definition than the imbecile PMS can grasp.