Republicans think handing corporations money creates jobs.

[JohnnyApplesack]

How high bitch so a kit Kat cost $50 bucks moron

A wage increase does not result in an equivalent increase in prices. Never has, never will.

exactly, just as trickle down economics has never worked and never will

Not with you at least because when you are a welfare puke the only thing trickling down is the thrill up Chris Mathews leg and his happy ending once Obama is done.
1976 minimum wage $2.10 an hour, burger, fry and small drink, 95 cents, Trans Am Firebird gold edition $6,000.
2017 minimum wage $10 an hour, burger fry and small drink, $5. If there was a Trans Am, it would be over $50,000.

You liberals are so full of your shit, that it is almost embarrassing. Not to me though, for I know how you morons think.

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you're one irate pilgrim

do your BP a favor and chill, try to focus and remember this is a message board, nothing more

holy cow

 

[Wyatt earp]

How high bitch so a kit Kat cost $50 bucks moron

A wage increase does not result in an equivalent increase in prices. Never has, never will.

exactly, just as trickle down economics has never worked and never will

Not with you at least because when you are a welfare puke the only thing trickling down is the thrill up Chris Mathews leg and his happy ending once Obama is done.
1976 minimum wage $2.10 an hour, burger, fry and small drink, 95 cents, Trans Am Firebird gold edition $6,000.
2017 minimum wage $10 an hour, burger fry and small drink, $5. If there was a Trans Am, it would be over $50,000.

You liberals are so full of your shit, that it is almost embarrassing. Not to me though, for I know how you morons think.

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you're one irate pilgrim

do your BP a favor and chill, try to focus and remember this is a message board, nothing more

holy cow

Math is not a liberal thing, is it ?

 

[The Derp]

I never said that, pennies add up in a family's budget when tax them

I think I broke the Russian post-bot.

 

[The Derp]

Who said that?Your all over the place.

No, you're all over the place. You keep shifting the parameters of the discussion because you are insecure in the facts.

 

[The Derp]

Math is not a liberal thing, is it ?

It's not a Conservative thing. That's why Conservatives always run deficits.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Who said that?Your all over the place.

No, you're all over the place. You keep shifting the parameters of the discussion because you are insecure in the facts.

I am not insecure.. I know math and you don't

 

[Wyatt earp]

Math is not a liberal thing, is it ?

It's not a Conservative thing. That's why Conservatives always run deficits.

I can burn you really fast... but I want to watch you hang your self in public..

 

[Fenton Lum]

However 15% for them all seems reasonable, close the loopholes and more revenue will come in, not less. The corporate tax is so high the mega rich find ways around it.

Yeah, we've been sold this snake oil for 37 years, and people just don't buy it anymore. What "loopholes" are being closed? Because Mnuchin just got on TV yesterday and said the deduction for State and Local taxes was on the chopping block. That deduction mainly assists middle and lower class wage earners. So Trump and the Conservatives want to raise taxes on everyone else, so Trump can get more for his book royalties.

The corporate marginal rate may be 35%, but the average effective rate is closer to 12.4%. Not many, if any, corporations actually pay 35%. Furthermore, revenue doesn't increase if taxes are cut. Profits may, but revenue is dependent on consumer demand which has nothing to do with corporate income tax.

Nice try, but we've already been around the block on this crap. Time to get a new policy. Preferably, one that doesn't suck.

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Focus was not so much "lost", but rather redirected by american corporate state media and think tanks.

"Productivity has surged, but income and wages have stagnated for most Americans. If the median household income had kept pace with the economy since 1970, it would now be nearly $92,000, not $50,000."

Productivity/income: Bureau of Labor Statistics, Congressional Budget Office (PDF), Economic Policy Institute, Census Bureau


Growth is back...

...But jobs aren't

GDP/jobs: Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development; Stephen Gordon, Université Laval

 

[The Derp]

I am not insecure.. I know math and you don't

Proclaiming it on a message board does little to convince anyone.

 

[The Derp]

I can burn you really fast... but I want to watch you hang your self in public..

Someone better tell Putin one of his trolls is seriously off the reservation!

 

[The Derp]

Focus was not so much "lost", but rather redirected by american corporate state media and think tanks.

There you go, posting facts.

 

[Cellblock2429]

I have news for the ultimate business man of all time, El Dumpster. Handing corporations money through tax cuts do not create jobs. Corporations hire people when they have a need.

If you want to create jobs, increase the demand for the products corporations supply. You do that by cutting taxes for the the middle & lower class people. They will spend that money & thereby increase demand.

If you want to bring those overseas corporate profits, end the tax break that said those profits aren't taxed until they bring them home.

Then, consider how much money Trump will profit from this tax break. Conflict of interest.

This tax break will not help struggling companies that make no or little profit.

It will actually reduce some investments. Corporatioins buying equipment, etc get a tax write off worth 35% & now that write off is only worth 15%.

'Trump is only helping himself.

/---- it's clear you are totally confused about the tax code.

 

[Cellblock2429]

like bailing out banks and corporations that couldn't run themselves? Good point. Lost 11B to GM and all they did was invest overseas.. I wonder if they would have invested here if we didn't have the highest corporate tax rate in the world?

Nope, they go for slave labor. That is why the next thing they do is cut min wage.

/---- Solyndra ???? (Sorry for the typo.)

 

[The Derp]

/---- Solindra ????

So interesting you bring up Solyndra. That company failed in 2010 and ended up costing about $700M. However, since 2013, there have been 213 oil and natural gas companies that have failed, costing about $85B.

So I'm not sure why anyone would invoke Solyndra when the oil and natural gas industry lost 121 times as much money.

 

[Political Junky]

They are poor in terms of income, not in terms of what benefits they receive that allows them to live such a lifestyle in a Blue State and Blue Towns.

The welfare queen is a myth. The real welfare queens are Conservatives who use the welfare block grant to plug the deficit holes created by their dumb tax-cutting policies.

Yep, the Right has been using "Welfare Queen" since their idol, Reagan, coined it.

 

[The Derp]

Yep, the Right has been using "Welfare Queen" since their idol, Reagan, coined it.

The irony being that Conservatives use welfare to pay for tax cuts, of course.

 

[Cellblock2429]

/---- Solindra ????

So interesting you bring up Solyndra. That company failed in 2010 and ended up costing about $700M. However, since 2013, there have been 213 oil and natural gas companies that have failed, costing about $85B.

So I'm not sure why anyone would invoke Solyndra when the oil and natural gas industry lost 121 times as much money.

Yep, the Right has been using "Welfare Queen" since their idol, Reagan, coined it.

The irony being that Conservatives use welfare to pay for tax cuts, of course.

/---- Solyndra = Tax Payer Money. GM and Chrysler = Tax Payer Money. Your list = Private investments.

 

[PredFan]

No one is "giving" money to the corporations. What is being proposed is letting corporations keep more of THEIR OWN MONEY.

The money BELONGS to the corporations, the government TAKES a portion of it by force.

 

[The Derp]

/---- Solyndra = TaAx Payer Money. GM and Chrysler = Tax Payer Money. Your list + Private investments.

Ah, so if an industry sees $85B in debt since 2013 then it's OK.

 

[The Derp]

No one is "giving" money to the corporations. What is being proposed is letting corporations keep more of THEIR OWN MONEY.

Which doesn't benefit consumers, suppresses wages, and doesn't translate to growth.

No business is going to expand if there's no demand for them to meet.