Republicans: why do you ignore the wealth inequality issue?

[FA_Q2]

You know.........I didn't spend 4 years going to college, following up and becoming an investment banker so that I could take advantage of lower tax brackets, nor will I ever have enough money to take advantage of something like that.

Why? Because by the time I'd retired out of the military, I was already 20 years too late to generate that kind of wealth, the only way I could get it now is to win the lottery.

Yes. I think the 1 percent should be taxed at at LEAST the same rate as the military. 28 percent withholding at the beginning and you file for your tax refund.

So... IOW, you want others to pay because you made poor decisions. Hmmm....

 

[Seawytch]

That's another thing I don't get. Why does everyone argue that the tax rate of the rich should be as much as the poor or military. Why don't people instead argue that their tax rate be lowered to that of the rich?

Probably because we have a deficit left to us by the last person in office before Obama, and we need to pay our debts.

You do know that The Obama chose to run up -considerably- more debt in 4 years that GWB did in 8 - right?

You realize you are wrong, right?

Reagan grew the debt by 189%, Bush I by 55.6%, Clinton 36%, Bush II by 89% and Obama by 41%.

US National Debt by Presidential Term:
Per Capita and as Percentage of Gross Domestic Product

 

[JoeB131]

You know.........I didn't spend 4 years going to college, following up and becoming an investment banker so that I could take advantage of lower tax brackets, nor will I ever have enough money to take advantage of something like that.

Why? Because by the time I'd retired out of the military, I was already 20 years too late to generate that kind of wealth, the only way I could get it now is to win the lottery.

Yes. I think the 1 percent should be taxed at at LEAST the same rate as the military. 28 percent withholding at the beginning and you file for your tax refund.

So... IOW, you want others to pay because you made poor decisions. Hmmm....

So an investment banker looting the economy is the right decision and Biker serving in the mlitary long enough to retire is a "poor" decision?

Oh, Biker, thanks for your service.

 

[Seawytch]

You know.........I didn't spend 4 years going to college, following up and becoming an investment banker so that I could take advantage of lower tax brackets, nor will I ever have enough money to take advantage of something like that.

Why? Because by the time I'd retired out of the military, I was already 20 years too late to generate that kind of wealth, the only way I could get it now is to win the lottery.

Yes. I think the 1 percent should be taxed at at LEAST the same rate as the military. 28 percent withholding at the beginning and you file for your tax refund.

That's another thing I don't get. Why does everyone argue that the tax rate of the rich should be as much as the poor or military. Why don't people instead argue that their tax rate be lowered to that of the rich?

Because we still have to pay for our bloated military. Do you have any idea what our debt and deficit would be if we all paid only 13.9%...or 0% like the corporations do?

 

[Seawytch]

I'm thinking back on a time of great American prosperity...and the 90% tax rate on those making over $250K during that time...

 

[editec]

One can ignore wealth inequite right up unil the problems that stem from it come to your door.

Obviously the wealthier you are they less likely this problem is going to ever get through the the gated community you are hiding behind.

But most of you here aren't in that class.

Most of you are going to watch as the qualify of your neighbors lives going down will effect the quality of your lives.

Then a lot of you will demand more police protection and whine about the fact that our country is turning into a police state.

It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic.

 

[thereisnospoon]

I still havent seen a good reason why I should hate someone just because he has more money than me.

Let me splain it to you. Remember how back when you were a kid and Santa brought little Timmy across the street that sweet Schwinn Stingray bike and all you got was a stocking full of coal. It wasn't "fair" was it? Remember how much you hated Timmy for having that cool bike? Remember how he wouldn't let you ride it? Remember how you used to throw your coal at him when he rode by? Avie, it just isn't "fair" that some people have more and better stuff than others. I mean after all, they did absolutely nothing to get it. They were just lucky.....and greedy. Obviously Santa just liked them more than the others and that just isn't "fair". Do you understand now?

Naw, I just punched holes in little timmy's tires. And then a bunch of us beat the crap out of him for getting uppity.

Which is what's going to happen to rich don't get a clue really soon and realize wealth inequality is a real problem.

Really, dude?
IS that you view of things? Give me some of your money or I will assault you?
Do you wonder why the class envy warmongers have no credibility?
One last time...Let this sink in to your Socialist Worker's Party head....There is no such thing as income or wealth inequality.
No one promised anyone any amount of success or failure.
As a matter of fact, it is the political left that measures success or failure by the size of one's bank account. That is YOUR problem.

 

[Bern80]

I still havent seen a good reason why I should hate someone just because he has more money than me.

Let me splain it to you. Remember how back when you were a kid and Santa brought little Timmy across the street that sweet Schwinn Stingray bike and all you got was a stocking full of coal. It wasn't "fair" was it? Remember how much you hated Timmy for having that cool bike? Remember how he wouldn't let you ride it? Remember how you used to throw your coal at him when he rode by? Avie, it just isn't "fair" that some people have more and better stuff than others. I mean after all, they did absolutely nothing to get it. They were just lucky.....and greedy. Obviously Santa just liked them more than the others and that just isn't "fair". Do you understand now?

Naw, I just punched holes in little timmy's tires. And then a bunch of us beat the crap out of him for getting uppity.

Which is what's going to happen to rich don't get a clue really soon and realize wealth inequality is a real problem.

And why is it someone elses responsibility to fix that for you? Why are YOU not responsible for having less wealth than someone else. I was watching a talk show the other day basically about a teenager kinda like you. A person that so far in her life, beating people up, yelling at them, and essentially being an immature brat has so far worked for them in getting what they want. Other people just cave. Both of you will learn when you eventually mature to adulthood that will no longer work in getting what you want. In your case changing income inequality is going to work on YOUR part mainly. If you don't like that others make more than you, then it's on YOU to correct that. Not on those that have more to simply give it to you.

 

[thereisnospoon]

One can ignore wealth inequite right up unil the problems that stem from it come to your door.

Obviously the wealthier you are they less likely this problem is going to ever get through the the gated community you are hiding behind.

But most of you here aren't in that class.

Most of you are going to watch as the qualify of your neighbors lives going down will effect the quality of your lives.

Then a lot of you will demand more police protection and whine about the fact that our country is turning into a police state.

It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic.

Can you please re post this in English?
From what I gather, it is your premise that all neighborhoods will fall into decline. And it also appears you believe there is nothing that can be done about it.
You also appear to place the blame on those that live in gated communities. Somehow some way ,you figure since gated community residents can place an additional layer of security between themselves and the thugs among us, they are causing or even forcing others to become crime victims. And because those people live in a secured area, somehow police protection is lessened for everyone else.
What the fuck are you babbling about?
Look, badger breath, the reason why there is crime is because liberal politicians in larger communities and cities have so weakened law enforcement and the criminal justice system , that criminals are no longer in fear of the punishment. They wear a jail term like a red badge of courage. That is IF they ever see the inside of a jail or prison cell.
There is a city near here (Charlotte) that the police dept DOES NOT investigate property crimes unless someone is injured or killed. That means if your home, auto, business or person( provided the victim is not injured) is ripped off, the cops are not coming and there is no investigation. Yeah And you have the fucking gall to whine about gated communities?

 

[Bern80]

One can ignore wealth inequite right up unil the problems that stem from it come to your door.

Obviously the wealthier you are they less likely this problem is going to ever get through the the gated community you are hiding behind.

But most of you here aren't in that class.

Most of you are going to watch as the qualify of your neighbors lives going down will effect the quality of your lives.

Then a lot of you will demand more police protection and whine about the fact that our country is turning into a police state.

It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic.

What is tragic is you ed. I have been trying to figure out what the difference is between the way you view the above scenario and the way the rest of us who get it. The difference it seems to me is how we react to it. The scenario being we're watching the quality of life for our neighbors decline. The difference in how we react to it is this; Your immediate reaction is to simply compensate for the inequality. To simply say someone else has to give them more to make them more equal to me and the rest of the neighbors. The problem is your reaction doesn't address WHY it happened and thus you are unlikely to solve the real problem.

MY first reaction is to ask Why is your neighbor's quality of life and wealth deteriorating. There could be a whole bunch of answers to that. I just can't think of many that would obligate someone else to simply give them money for the sole purpose of making their wealth more equal.

 

[Cecilie1200]

You know.........I didn't spend 4 years going to college, following up and becoming an investment banker so that I could take advantage of lower tax brackets, nor will I ever have enough money to take advantage of something like that.

Why? Because by the time I'd retired out of the military, I was already 20 years too late to generate that kind of wealth, the only way I could get it now is to win the lottery.

Yes. I think the 1 percent should be taxed at at LEAST the same rate as the military. 28 percent withholding at the beginning and you file for your tax refund.

That's another thing I don't get. Why does everyone argue that the tax rate of the rich should be as much as the poor or military. Why don't people instead argue that their tax rate be lowered to that of the rich?

How about because it wouldn't be "lowering" anything? The military does NOT pay a higher tax rate than Mitt Romney. Virtually no one does, according to the IRS. Ninety-seven percent of the country pays less than 15%, and I would imagine that includes the military.

Why do people insist on accepting the shit that spews from leftist mouths as true and then trying to argue on that basis, instead of using their heads and challenging their bullshit premises from the start?

 

[Bern80]

You know.........I didn't spend 4 years going to college, following up and becoming an investment banker so that I could take advantage of lower tax brackets, nor will I ever have enough money to take advantage of something like that.

Why? Because by the time I'd retired out of the military, I was already 20 years too late to generate that kind of wealth, the only way I could get it now is to win the lottery.

Yes. I think the 1 percent should be taxed at at LEAST the same rate as the military. 28 percent withholding at the beginning and you file for your tax refund.

That's another thing I don't get. Why does everyone argue that the tax rate of the rich should be as much as the poor or military. Why don't people instead argue that their tax rate be lowered to that of the rich?

How about because it wouldn't be "lowering" anything? The military does NOT pay a higher tax rate than Mitt Romney. Virtually no one does, according to the IRS. Ninety-seven percent of the country pays less than 15%, and I would imagine that includes the military.

Why do people insist on accepting the shit that spews from leftist mouths as true and then trying to argue on that basis, instead of using their heads and challenging their bullshit premises from the start?

I kind of figured that, but you get the basic idea. When people compare tax rates to whomever has a lower tax rate than they do, why don't they argue that their's be lowered rather insisting the other guy pay more?

 

[Bern80]

I'm thinking back on a time of great American prosperity...and the 90% tax rate on those making over $250K during that time...

I suggest you think a little harder about whether those two occurrences correlate.

 

[kwc57]

I still havent seen a good reason why I should hate someone just because he has more money than me.

Let me splain it to you. Remember how back when you were a kid and Santa brought little Timmy across the street that sweet Schwinn Stingray bike and all you got was a stocking full of coal. It wasn't "fair" was it? Remember how much you hated Timmy for having that cool bike? Remember how he wouldn't let you ride it? Remember how you used to throw your coal at him when he rode by? Avie, it just isn't "fair" that some people have more and better stuff than others. I mean after all, they did absolutely nothing to get it. They were just lucky.....and greedy. Obviously Santa just liked them more than the others and that just isn't "fair". Do you understand now?

Naw, I just punched holes in little timmy's tires. And then a bunch of us beat the crap out of him for getting uppity.

Which is what's going to happen to rich don't get a clue really soon and realize wealth inequality is a real problem.

You might want to be careful. Little Timmy is a hard working 2nd amendment conservative and he might shoot your liberal ass when you come at him with your 99% cardboard sign.

 

[ABikerSailor]

You know.........I didn't spend 4 years going to college, following up and becoming an investment banker so that I could take advantage of lower tax brackets, nor will I ever have enough money to take advantage of something like that.

Why? Because by the time I'd retired out of the military, I was already 20 years too late to generate that kind of wealth, the only way I could get it now is to win the lottery.

Yes. I think the 1 percent should be taxed at at LEAST the same rate as the military. 28 percent withholding at the beginning and you file for your tax refund.

So... IOW, you want others to pay because you made poor decisions. Hmmm....

So.........serving this country for 20 years and defending it was a "poor decision"?

Hmmmm..........

 

[ABikerSailor]

You know.........I didn't spend 4 years going to college, following up and becoming an investment banker so that I could take advantage of lower tax brackets, nor will I ever have enough money to take advantage of something like that.

Why? Because by the time I'd retired out of the military, I was already 20 years too late to generate that kind of wealth, the only way I could get it now is to win the lottery.

Yes. I think the 1 percent should be taxed at at LEAST the same rate as the military. 28 percent withholding at the beginning and you file for your tax refund.

That's another thing I don't get. Why does everyone argue that the tax rate of the rich should be as much as the poor or military. Why don't people instead argue that their tax rate be lowered to that of the rich?

How about because it wouldn't be "lowering" anything? The military does NOT pay a higher tax rate than Mitt Romney. Virtually no one does, according to the IRS. Ninety-seven percent of the country pays less than 15%, and I would imagine that includes the military.

Why do people insist on accepting the shit that spews from leftist mouths as true and then trying to argue on that basis, instead of using their heads and challenging their bullshit premises from the start?

Well.........if you were to look at the LES (Leave and Earnings Statement) of any service member and checked out the taxes withheld, you'd see that federal is held back at 28 percent and state taxes are held out at 4 percent, which is money you don't see until you file your taxes at the end of the year, and no.........those in the military while they may get a refund, it's not even close to all the money that was already withheld.

I know........I did the paperwork for it.

 

[Mr Natural]

That we tax the earnings of military people (especially enlisteds) at all is pretty sad

 

[M14 Shooter]

That's another thing I don't get. Why does everyone argue that the tax rate of the rich should be as much as the poor or military. Why don't people instead argue that their tax rate be lowered to that of the rich?

How about because it wouldn't be "lowering" anything? The military does NOT pay a higher tax rate than Mitt Romney. Virtually no one does, according to the IRS. Ninety-seven percent of the country pays less than 15%, and I would imagine that includes the military.

Why do people insist on accepting the shit that spews from leftist mouths as true and then trying to argue on that basis, instead of using their heads and challenging their bullshit premises from the start?

Well.........if you were to look at the LES (Leave and Earnings Statement) of any service member and checked out the taxes withheld, you'd see that federal is held back at 28 percent and state taxes are held out at 4 percent, which is money you don't see until you file your taxes at the end of the year, and no.........those in the military while they may get a refund, it's not even close to all the money that was already withheld.

Well, no kidding - their tax liability come out of what was withheld.
The only time anyone gets back 'close' to what was withheld is if their tax liability was a 'small' proportion of the withholdings.

 

[thereisnospoon]

That we tax the earnings of military people (especially enlisteds) at all is pretty sad

I have to agree. Military personnel, especially Enlisted are brutally underpaid.
The federal government should slash the pay of every GS position and adjust military pay upward.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I kind of figured that, but you get the basic idea. When people compare tax rates to whomever has a lower tax rate than they do, why don't they argue that their's be lowered rather insisting the other guy pay more?

good point, our top 1% pay 37% of all taxes, more than in any other country. Goof liberals imagine that if the rich get ripped of a little more somehow the money will trickle down to them.

Does anyone think that will happen??

It would be far more practical for them to want their tax rate lowered rather the riches raised. That they would profit from.