Repubs NAACP, Dems KKK?

[Gracie]

Saw this on twitter, and must admit, I had no clue. Is it true?

most liberals aren't aware that Republicans founded the #NAACP, while Democrats founded the #KKK

 

[DarkFury]

Republicans also founded the NRA to protect the Negro from democrats.

 

[Pogo]

Saw this on twitter, and must admit, I had no clue. Is it true?

most liberals aren't aware that Republicans founded the #NAACP, while Democrats founded the #KKK

Not really, no.

Many if not most of the founders of the NAACP were Republicans, that's true. In 1909 that's how black people were voting and looking to for their interests but that would shift radically a quarter-century later.

The founders of the KKK were young ex-Confederate soldiers bored on Christmas Day 1865 and founded it as a lark. That's why it has all the K-alliterations of "Klaverns" and "Kleagles" and so forth. None of them had any known political affiliation, and were probably too young to vote anyway.

The second iteration, the revival in 1915 (the version that was by far the largest), was founded by a Georgia doctor named William Simmons, and he had no political affiliation either. He insisted it was a "social club".

But neither was founded by a political party.

 

[DarkFury]

Saw this on twitter, and must admit, I had no clue. Is it true?

most liberals aren't aware that Republicans founded the #NAACP, while Democrats founded the #KKK

Not really, no.

Many if not most of the founders of the NAACP were Republicans, that's true. In 1909 that's how black people were voting and looking to for their interests but that would shift radically a quarter-century later.

The founders of the KKK were young ex-Confederate soldiers bored on Christmas Day 1865 and founded it as a lark. That's why it has all the K-alliterations of "Klaverns" and "Kleagles" and so forth. None of them had any known political affiliation, and were probably too young to vote anyway.

The second iteration, the revival in 1915 (the version that was by far the largest), was founded by a Georgia doctor named William Simmons, and he had no political affiliation either. He insisted it was a "social club".

But neither was founded by a political party.

Republicans ALSO founded the "United Negro College Fund".

 

[ScienceRocks]

It's true...Republicans use to be quite different.

Not that I like the Naacp! Just that on a lot of other stuff they made a shit ton of sense in the 40's, 50's and 60's.

 

[S.J.]

The founders of the NAACP were Republicans. The founders of the KKK were Democrats. The leftards will try to split hairs to muddy the waters but they can't escape their history of racism.

 

[Jackson]

Saw this on twitter, and must admit, I had no clue. Is it true?

most liberals aren't aware that Republicans founded the #NAACP, while Democrats founded the #KKK

Not really, no.

Many if not most of the founders of the NAACP were Republicans, that's true. In 1909 that's how black people were voting and looking to for their interests but that would shift radically a quarter-century later.

The founders of the KKK were young ex-Confederate soldiers bored on Christmas Day 1865 and founded it as a lark. That's why it has all the K-alliterations of "Klaverns" and "Kleagles" and so forth. None of them had any known political affiliation, and were probably too young to vote anyway.

The second iteration, the revival in 1915 (the version that was by far the largest), was founded by a Georgia doctor named William Simmons, and he had no political affiliation either. He insisted it was a "social club".

But neither was founded by a political party.

My understanding is the KKK was initiated by Nathan Bedford Forrest after the Civil War. Yes, it was a social drinking club initially with nothing to do with negroes. It became popular and then started to target blacks. Forrest was alarmed at this and tried to disband it, even with help of Ulysses S. Grant.

 

[Pogo]

The founders of the NAACP were Republicans. The founders of the KKK were Democrats. The leftards will try to split hairs to muddy the waters but they can't escape their history of racism.

Nope. They weren't. Unlikely they were even old enough to vote, being "college age", and the voting age being 21.

Link?

While you're searching for that -- I already know you won't find it --- here's one for you:

>> It was the boredom of small-town life that led six young Confederate veterans to gather around a fireplace one December evening in 1865 and form a social club. The place was Pulaski, Tenn., near the Alabama border. When they reassembled a week later, the six young men were full of ideas for their new society. It would be secret, to heighten the amusement of the thing, and the titles for the various offices were to have names as preposterous-sounding as possible, partly for the fun of it and partly to avoid any military or political implications.

Thus the head of the group was called the Grand Cyclops. His assistant was the Grand Magi. There was to be a Grand Turk to greet all candidates for admission, a Grand Scribe to act as secretary, night hawks for messengers and a Lictor to be the guard. The members, when the six young men found some to join, would be called Ghouls. But what to name the society itself?

The founders were determined to come up with something unusual and mysterious. Being well-educated, they turned to the Greek language. After tossing around a number of ideas, Richard R. Reed suggested the word “kuklos,” from which the English words “circle” and “cycle” are derived. Another member, Capt. John B. Kennedy, had an ear for alliteration and added the word “”clan.” after tinkering with the sound for a while they settled on Ku Klux Klan. The selection of the name, chance though it was, had a great deal to do with the Klan’s early success. Something about the sound aroused curiosity and gave the fledgling club an immediate air of mystery, as did the initials K.K.K., which were soon to take on such terrifying significance.

Soon after the founders named the Klan, they decided to do a bit of showing off, and so disguised themselves in sheets and galloped their horses through the quiet streets of tiny Pulaski. their ride created such a stir that the men decided to adopt the sheets as the official regalia of the Ku Klux Klan, and they added to the effect by donning grotesque masks and tall pointed hats. They also performed elaborate initiation ceremonies for new members. Similar to the hazing popular in college fraternities, the ceremony consisted of blindfolding the candidate, subjecting him to a series of silly oaths and rough handling, and finally bringing him before a “royal altar” where he was to be invested with a “royal crown.” the altar turned out to be a mirror and the crown two large donkey’s ears. Ridiculous though it sounds today, that was the high point of the earliest activities of the Ku Klux Klan.

Had that been all there was to the Ku Klux Klan, it probably would have disappeared as quietly as it was born. But at some point in early 1866, the club added new members from nearby towns and began to have a chilling effect on local blacks.... << -- Origins of the Klan​

 

[rdean]

Why do today's Republicans pretend they are the same as the Republicans that built the interstate highway system and started NASA? Today's Republicans believe science is a faith and we were shimmered into being from a pile of dirt. Today's Republicans turn roads to gravel.

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[DarkFury]

The founders of the NAACP were Republicans. The founders of the KKK were Democrats. The leftards will try to split hairs to muddy the waters but they can't escape their history of racism.

Nope. They weren't. Unlikely they were even old enough to vote, being "college age", and the voting age being 21.

Link?

Since when does one have to be 21 to be a democrat?

 

[depotoo]

Yes, it is true. And white Republicans were also lynched by the KKK due to their support of Blacks.
Further, the first grand wizard of the KKK was honored at the 1868 Democratic National Convention, no Democrats voted for the 14th Amendment to grant citizenship to former slaves.

Saw this on twitter, and must admit, I had no clue. Is it true?

most liberals aren't aware that Republicans founded the #NAACP, while Democrats founded the #KKK

 

[rdean]

The founders of the NAACP were Republicans. The founders of the KKK were Democrats. The leftards will try to split hairs to muddy the waters but they can't escape their history of racism.

Nope. They weren't. Unlikely they were even old enough to vote, being "college age", and the voting age being 21.

Link?

Lincoln was a Republican. But in the 60's, when blacks left the GOP and joined the Democrats, white conservatives fled the Democratic Party and filled the ranks of the racist GOP. And that's why the GOP is 90% white today.

But today's Republicans insist on rewriting history by ignoring facts. Such as why Republicans are 90% white. Why Republicans think science is a faith and vaccines cause autism. Why the majority of Republicans live in the Deep South. Why all their policies for the last 40 years have been terrible disasters. It's like all the most ignorant and lazy people in the country moved to one party. It's why only a measly 6% of scientists admit to being Republican. It's why you have supposedly smart people like Ben Carson saying evolution comes from the Devil.

Ignorance like that isn't skin deep, it's to the bone. There is not really anything we can do to stop it. We just need to wait until they die out. People that ignorant can't compete. They are a dying species.

 

[Pogo]

The founders of the NAACP were Republicans. The founders of the KKK were Democrats. The leftards will try to split hairs to muddy the waters but they can't escape their history of racism.

Nope. They weren't. Unlikely they were even old enough to vote, being "college age", and the voting age being 21.

Link?

Since when does one have to be 21 to be a democrat?

To be a VOTER, Pinkie. The voting age wasn't lowered to 18 until the ratification of the Twenty-Sixth Amendment in 1971.

 

[S.J.]

Didn't we all know the libtards would stretch, spin, and contort to try and get out of this one?
We've heard this ridiculous effort to shift the legacy of racism from Democrats to Republicans many times before in this forum and every time it's been tried it's been shot down by historic facts.

 

[S.J.]

The founders of the NAACP were Republicans. The founders of the KKK were Democrats. The leftards will try to split hairs to muddy the waters but they can't escape their history of racism.

Nope. They weren't. Unlikely they were even old enough to vote, being "college age", and the voting age being 21.

Link?

Since when does one have to be 21 to be a democrat?

To be a VOTER, Pinkie. The voting age wasn't lowered to 18 until the ratification of the Twenty-Sixth Amendment in 1971.

Just embrace your racism, Poco. It fits you like a glove.

 

[Pogo]

But in the 60's, when blacks left the GOP and joined the Democrats, white conservatives fled the Democratic Party and filled the ranks of the racist GOP. And that's why the GOP is 90% white today.

That's part of it, but the shift of the black vote from Republicans to Democrats manifested in 1936, FDR's second campaign, and they've been there ever since. It did spike even more in 1964 though.

It's important to remember the sort of magnetic reversal of the political poles around the turn of the century (19th/20th). In Lincoln's day the young Republican Party was the home of Abolitionists, therefore Liberals, and also interestingly the home of doing Big Things with Government, a legacy of their other parent, the defunct Whig party (Lincoln had been a Whig). Meanwhile the DP was the home of "states rights" and opposition to Federal power, leaving powers to the several states.

By the end of the century the RP had abandoned its Liberal roots in favor of the interests of corporations and Big Business (see McKinley) while the DP had absorbed the Populist movement (see W.J. Bryan), which by definition served the interests of minorities, women, immigrants and blacks --- which coincidentally were all enemies of the second iteration of the KKK.

The South was the last entity to react to this polar shift, the idea of affiliating with the Party of Lincoln in any way, the man who had defeated and humiliated it in the War, being unthinkable for exactly 99 years after that war, with the result that Democrats in the South had less and less in common with Democrats anywhere else, because the South was effectively a one-party state until Strom Thurmond bolted in 1964, thereby making the unthinkable thinkable.

In 1909 when the NAACP was founded this polar shift was still in transition, so it's no surprise that its founders affiliated with the RP.

 

[Arianrhod]

Since when does one have to be 21 to be a democrat?

That wasn't what he said.

 

[Pogo]

Didn't we all know the libtards would stretch, spin, and contort to try and get out of this one?
We've heard this ridiculous effort to shift the legacy of racism from Democrats to Republicans many times before in this forum and every time it's been tried it's been shot down by historic facts.

Racism doesn't belong to a "party". It's a cultural value and a personal flaw.

 

[S.J.]

But in the 60's, when blacks left the GOP and joined the Democrats, white conservatives fled the Democratic Party and filled the ranks of the racist GOP. And that's why the GOP is 90% white today.

That's part of it, but the shift of the black vote from Republicans to Democrats manifested in 1936, FDR's second campaign, and they've been there ever since. It did spike even more in 1964 though.

It's important to remember the sort of magnetic reversal of the political poles around the turn of the century (19th/20th). In Lincoln's day the young Republican Party was the home of Abolitionists, therefore Liberals, and also interestingly the home of doing Big Things with Government, a legacy of their other parent, the defunct Whig party (Lincoln had been a Whig). Meanwhile the DP was the home of "states rights" and opposition to Federal power, leaving powers to the several states.

By the end of the century the RP had abandoned its Liberal roots in favor of the interests of corporations and Big Business (see McKinley) while the DP had absorbed the Populist movement (see W.J. Bryan), which by definition served the interests of minorities, women, immigrants and blacks --- which coincidentally were all enemies of the second iteration of the KKK.

In 1909 when the NAACP was founded this polar shift was still in transition, so it's no surprise that its founders affiliated with the RP.

Hey shitforbrains, what is the topic in the OP? How about sticking to it?

 

[Arianrhod]

But in the 60's, when blacks left the GOP and joined the Democrats, white conservatives fled the Democratic Party and filled the ranks of the racist GOP. And that's why the GOP is 90% white today.

That's part of it, but the shift of the black vote from Republicans to Democrats manifested in 1936, FDR's second campaign, and they've been there ever since. It did spike even more in 1964 though.

It's important to remember the sort of magnetic reversal of the political poles around the turn of the century (19th/20th). In Lincoln's day the young Republican Party was the home of Abolitionists, therefore Liberals, and also interestingly the home of doing Big Things with Government, a legacy of their other parent, the defunct Whig party (Lincoln had been a Whig). Meanwhile the DP was the home of "states rights" and opposition to Federal power, leaving powers to the several states.

By the end of the century the RP had abandoned its Liberal roots in favor of the interests of corporations and Big Business (see McKinley) while the DP had absorbed the Populist movement (see W.J. Bryan), which by definition served the interests of minorities, women, immigrants and blacks --- which coincidentally were all enemies of the second iteration of the KKK.

In 1909 when the NAACP was founded this polar shift was still in transition, so it's no surprise that its founders affiliated with the RP.

Hey shitforbrains, what is the topic in the OP? How about sticking to it?

Did you not understand his post?