Research Your Australian "Socialism" Wage

[AntiParty]

Yanno.....................if the minimum wage would have kept up with inflation, everyone would be making 10.50/hour or more.

But..............I guess that capitalism says that we should take better care of the stockholders than what we do for the workers that actually produce the goods.

Corporations aren't people, they're greedy blood sucking ticks.[/QU

I implore everyone to type into their search program to see what they would be making in a Socialist Environment like Australia.

Simply type into your search engine, "Australia wages for a blank worker", just fill in the blank with your occupation.

I think some of the poor people extremely angry about their wages will notice how much they would make.

I have several friends in Carpentry that are either Libertarian or Republican and all poor (and angry about it). A carpenters wage in Australia is $27.35 per hour.

The wage is voted for by the people, THAT is what Socialism actually is...nothing more.

Welfare has NOTHING to do with Socialism or Capitalism. It is it's own entity that shows up in both.

And to end, this post isn't to sell Socialism, it's to inform the zombies of what it actually is. And to prove this, Australia's Crony-Socialism is going through the same flaws as our Crony-Capitalism is going through. If you can control the Government, you can control your wage......in either case.

Link to where wages are voted for by the people?

"Link to the term SOCIALISM". I know Fox News paints Socialism is welfarism, it's the reason for the post.

 

[AntiParty]

Anti -

Please try to understand. Really.

Australia has a RIGHT WING government.

That is a fact.

Do you understand that, or should I post some material for you to ignore?

Yep. and the Right Wing there banned certain guns. NOT ALL.........certain types.

Now.............Do you understand my OP? I know, it's really complicated. This link might help;
Let me google that for you

 

[Saigon]

Great. So we have established that Australia has a RIGHT WING government under Abbot.

So then what is this nonsensical bleating about "socialism" got to do with any Australian adminstration since perhaps Whitlam?

Was the Hawke administration socialist? Was Gillard? Keating, perhaps?

What on earth are you talking about, man?!

 

[AntiParty]

The entire OP has been trashed at this point. No one chimed in and stated their Aus wage. 'Merica!

Must be an attack, he's talking all types of free thinking nonsense!

WE MUST OBEY THE CORPORATIONS! 'MERICA!

 

[AntiParty]

Great. So we have established that Australia has a RIGHT WING government under Abbot.

So then what is this nonsensical bleating about "socialism" got to do with any Australian adminstration since perhaps Whitlam?

Was the Hawke administration socialist? Was Gillard? Keating, perhaps?

What on earth are you talking about, man?!

It's a Socialist Country moron. You just don't understand your argument because you are confused on what Socialism due to Fox news. Also, there is probably a good reason it's Crony-Socialism........................

 

[Saigon]

AntiParty -

Australia is not and has never been a socialist country.

It has a very right-wing government.

This is not opinion. This is fact.

The current Australian government is probably their most right-wing administration since McMahon!

Please try and post with a little self-respect and common sense, eh?

 

[AntiParty]

I could never imagine a day when people refused to spend 30 seconds out of their day to actually educate themselves on what Socialism ACTUALLY is. I've spent years watching documentaries, researching beyond party lines and thinking freely to see nations refuse to take 30 seconds out of their day to educate themselves.

No, hey. The Patriot act, The Right To Farm, Operation Freedom Iran...............That's what you read and vote for. A pretty title

 

[Saigon]

Anti-Party -

And how much time have you spent in Australia?

Because it seems fairly odd to me that someone can have spent more than 10 minutes there and not figured out that the government is one of the most right-wing countries in the developed world.....

Let me make this clear again - this is NOT a matter of opinion. You are simply totally, absolutely, unquestionably wrong. Australia has NEVER been a socialist country.

 

[Toro]

I googled "how are wages set in Australia" and nothing came up about "the people" voting on their wage. What came up was how minimum wages were set, and also that wages were set by supply and demand.

 

[AntiParty]

AntiParty -

Australia is not and has never been a socialist country.

It has a very right-wing government.

This is not opinion. This is fact.

The current Australian government is probably their most right-wing administration since McMahon!

Please try and post with a little self-respect and common sense, eh?

I'm fully aware that you don't know what Socialism is and most Americans don't. Which is why I made this post to push it in your hostile little noses. Socialism is when the GOVERNMENT owns business and the people who elect Government officials give them the right to decide the wages. AKA, Crony-Socialism. Conservative Australia

Anti-Party -

And how much time have you spent in Australia?

Because it seems fairly odd to me that someone can have spent more than 10 minutes there and not figured out that the government is one of the most right-wing countries in the developed world.....

Let me make this clear again - this is NOT a matter of opinion. You are simply totally, absolutely, unquestionably wrong. Australia has NEVER been a socialist country.

You, like many, confuse Socialism with Communism and even Welfarism.

I'm sorry you have to learn by typing "words" into search engines that all say the same thing. I'm absolute that you think you are correct though. Thumbs up Sean Hannity

 

[AntiParty]

I googled "how are wages set in Australia" and nothing came up about "the people" voting on their wage. What came up was how minimum wages were set, and also that wages were set by supply and demand.

and the gov officials use these measures to set the pay........

 

[Toro]

Link?

I don't think you're correct.

I know people who work in Australia and they've never mentioned this.

 

[eagle1462010]

I looked up my pay over there and it was right in line with what I make here.

OP FAIL.

 

[Toro]

I looked up my pay over there and it was right in line with what I make here.

OP FAIL.

Cost of living is generally higher in Australia too.

 

[Saigon]

Watching them follow ignorance is epic.

I'm fully aware that you don't know what Socialism is and most Americans don't. Which is why I made this post to push it in your hostile little noses. Socialism is when the GOVERNMENT owns business and the people who elect Government officials give them the right to decide the wages. AKA, Crony-Socialism. Conservative Australia

And what does that have to do with Australia?

NOTHING.

Really, Anti, I think we set the bar fairly low on this board. I don't expect people to know a lot about Australia, and I doubt many other posters do either.

But this thread really is beneath contempt. You have absolutely no idea about the country, you have patently never been there, and you couldn't name the head of state. You do not know who the governing party is, and you have no idea what laws the country has.

How can you be this poorly informed?

 

[Saigon]

I looked up my pay over there and it was right in line with what I make here.

OP FAIL.

Cost of living is generally higher in Australia too.

The cost of living in Australia is VERY high. House prices in Sydney are now well over A$500,000 for even a basic home in the outer suburbs.

Food is not cheap, transport is not cheap....although the wine is still a good deal!

 

[eagle1462010]

One good thing about Australia............the women there are HOT...........I love their accent............We visited Freemantle and Perth back in the day............

The WOMEN THERE.............

 

[FA_Q2]

I could never imagine a day when people refused to spend 30 seconds out of their day to actually educate themselves on what Socialism ACTUALLY is. I've spent years watching documentaries, researching beyond party lines and thinking freely to see nations refuse to take 30 seconds out of their day to educate themselves.

No, hey. The Patriot act, The Right To Farm, Operation Freedom Iran...............That's what you read and vote for. A pretty title

Why would they? You, as the OP asking people to do this asinine thing, have failed to address two central points that challenge the entire premise of the OP - that wages are set by vote is false and that the cost of living must be calculated or any raise in my pay pay is absolutely meaningless.

IOW, address why anyone should bother considering that your OP is full of logical fallacy.

 

[2aguy]

Even shotguns, arguably the best gun to protect your home with.

Actually, an AR-15 has better features for home defense than a shotgun...

 

[gipper]

I googled "how are wages set in Australia" and nothing came up about "the people" voting on their wage. What came up was how minimum wages were set, and also that wages were set by supply and demand.

and the gov officials use these measures to set the pay........

Why would any nation want their government to set pay rates, when government is corrupt, inefficient, and authoritarian?

What is wrong with the people deciding what things are worth....aka free market capitalism???