Rest in Peace Muhammad Ali

[JimH52]

He was the greatest boxer ever.

 

[Rustic]

The "individual" is dying in America thanks to socialism, the trend is just to be just a good little village idiot(hildabeast said it takes a village).
I may not agree with many of his behaviors, but his defiance of the federal government was a great thing... I applaud him for that. Capitalism inspires not only ingenuity but also individualism, socialism is the polar opposite of.
All the great people in history are individuals not, career politicians and their political correctness...

 

[JimH52]

Trump feels better. One less Muslim for him to monitor...

 

[Rustic]

Trump feels better. One less Muslim for him to monitor...

You do know they were friends... Lol

 

[rightwinger]

Condolences to all in the Ali family. Sad ti see a guy pass away at only 74. Nowadays that is a young age for someone to die. Look a Bernie Sanders. He's 74 and he's a bundle of energy. Same with Ringo Starr and Mick Jagger, who tour the world and dance all over stages.

Something does need to be said about this "greatest" title we keep seeing and hearing so much, though. Muhammad Ali (AKA Cassius Clay) was perhaps "the greatest" at showmanship and self-promotion. As a boxer, he was a very good one, but he was far from being the greatest at that.

He lost a few fights, and there are other boxers (Rocky Marciano, Floyd Mayweather, Joe Calzaghe, Ricardo Lopez, Sven Ottke, Edwin Valero, and others) who fought dozens of fights, and still went UNDEFEATED. Valero won all 27 of his fights, all of them by knockouts. Not fair to these guys to call Ali "the greatest".

List of undefeated boxing world champions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

How many of those guys had four prime years taken away because they stood up for their political principles?

Some poor schmuck in the ghetto had to take Clay's place because he changed his name as an excuse for refusing to go to Vietnam. He's lucky he only lost four years, the poor sap who took Ali's place probably died.

Nevertheless, RIP. Both of them.

. It wasn't just ghetto warriors that were drafted was it ? And as I recall they sure weren't all dark skinned or black right ? He was definitely known as a draft dodger, but he paid for that with his boxing career that sadly destroyed his life anyway. Cruel unforgivable world we all live in, but the reward is the forgiveness for our sins. Amen.

Looking back, it was interesting how, out of all the great athletes of the era, only Ali managed to get drafted
The others either got deferments or a cushy National Guard gig where they only did weekends

. Like some have said here, it probably was for moral purposes for the troops just like Elvis was during world war two or Prince William during Afghanistan. Wasn't that the conflict Prince William was a part of ? I don't believe it was for reasons of trying to get rid of him (Ali) or anything like that.

It just seems other athletes and movie stars had connections that kept them from getting drafted. Ali was bigger than any of them but managed to get called up

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

RIP

 

[JimH52]

Trump feels better. One less Muslim for him to monitor...

You do know they were friends... Lol

To trump, a Muslim is a Muslim....

 

[Rustic]

How many of those guys had four prime years taken away because they stood up for their political principles?

Some poor schmuck in the ghetto had to take Clay's place because he changed his name as an excuse for refusing to go to Vietnam. He's lucky he only lost four years, the poor sap who took Ali's place probably died.

Nevertheless, RIP. Both of them.

. It wasn't just ghetto warriors that were drafted was it ? And as I recall they sure weren't all dark skinned or black right ? He was definitely known as a draft dodger, but he paid for that with his boxing career that sadly destroyed his life anyway. Cruel unforgivable world we all live in, but the reward is the forgiveness for our sins. Amen.

Looking back, it was interesting how, out of all the great athletes of the era, only Ali managed to get drafted
The others either got deferments or a cushy National Guard gig where they only did weekends

. Like some have said here, it probably was for moral purposes for the troops just like Elvis was during world war two or Prince William during Afghanistan. Wasn't that the conflict Prince William was a part of ? I don't believe it was for reasons of trying to get rid of him (Ali) or anything like that.

It just seems other athletes and movie stars had connections that kept them from getting drafted. Ali was bigger than any of them but managed to get called up

That's what career politicians and their federal government the does to those who oppose them to this day. Dumbass

 

[longknife]

Cassius Clay



All we see, read, and hear is praise for Muhammad Ali, the boxer who changed the world. Oh how quickly they forget. Or is it just another massive instance of political correctness?



Clay left Archie Moore's camp in 1960, partially due to Clay's refusing to do chores such as dish-washing and sweeping,



Soon after the Liston fight, Clay changed his name to Muhammad Ali upon converting to Islam and affiliating with the Nation of Islam.



The “Phantom Punch” against Liston in the 2nd fight. Claims Liston took a dive to pay off bills.



Ali refused to be inducted into the armed forces, stating that he had "no quarrel with them Vietcong."[52] "My conscience won't let me go shoot my brother, or some darker people, or some poor hungry people in the mud for big powerful America. And shoot them for what? They never called me ******, they never lynched me, they didn't put no dogs on me, they didn't rob me of my nationality, rape or kill my mother and father.... How can I shoot them poor people? Just take me to jail."



In 1967 he announced a brief retirement to practice his faith in Islam, having converted to Sunni Islam after falling out with the Nation of Islam the previous year.



Ali registered for the draft on his eighteenth birthday and was listed as 1-A in 1962. In 1964, he was reclassified as 1-Y (fit for service only in times of national emergency) after two mental tests found his IQ was 78 (16th percentile), well below the armed force's 30th-percentile threshold. (He was quoted as saying, "I said I was the greatest, not the smartest!")



Muhammad Ali defeated every top heavyweight in his era, which has been called the golden age of heavyweight boxing. Ali was named "Fighter of the Year" by Ring Magazine more times than any other fighter, and was involved in more Ring Magazine "Fight of the Year" bouts than any other fighter. He was an inductee into the International Boxing Hall of Fame and held wins over seven other Hall of Fame inductees. He was one of only three boxers to be named "Sportsman of the Year" by Sports Illustrated.



You want to read his full bio, go to Muhammad Ali - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Rustic]

Trump feels better. One less Muslim for him to monitor...

You do know they were friends... Lol

To trump, a Muslim is a Muslim....

Deflection

 

[namvet]

when the fights over and they ring the last bell im gonna jump thru the ropes and take on Howard Cosell

 

[Rustic]

when the fights over and they ring the last bell im gonna jump thru the ropes and take on Howard Cosell

Who can't like a big personality??

 

[Wyatt earp]

How many of those guys had four prime years taken away because they stood up for their political principles?

Some poor schmuck in the ghetto had to take Clay's place because he changed his name as an excuse for refusing to go to Vietnam. He's lucky he only lost four years, the poor sap who took Ali's place probably died.

Nevertheless, RIP. Both of them.

. It wasn't just ghetto warriors that were drafted was it ? And as I recall they sure weren't all dark skinned or black right ? He was definitely known as a draft dodger, but he paid for that with his boxing career that sadly destroyed his life anyway. Cruel unforgivable world we all live in, but the reward is the forgiveness for our sins. Amen.

Looking back, it was interesting how, out of all the great athletes of the era, only Ali managed to get drafted
The others either got deferments or a cushy National Guard gig where they only did weekends

. Like some have said here, it probably was for moral purposes for the troops just like Elvis was during world war two or Prince William during Afghanistan. Wasn't that the conflict Prince William was a part of ? I don't believe it was for reasons of trying to get rid of him (Ali) or anything like that.

It just seems other athletes and movie stars had connections that kept them from getting drafted. Ali was bigger than any of them but managed to get called up

Was he bigger then Elvis......



.

 

[Iceweasel]

You may question his politics, but his boxing ability is unquestioned. In his prime, he was the greatest. Those fights with Smokin' Joe were great...to say nothing of his knockout of Foreman.

Foreman was exhausted. The ring girl could have knocked him out. Ali layed on the ropes and Foreman should have made him join him in the middle of the ring and box.

 

[Iceweasel]

when the fights over and they ring the last bell im gonna jump thru the ropes and take on Howard Cosell

Two motormouths. Howard was a real jerk but they helped each other pay the bills.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Why do people act like real asses when someone dies? No one leads a perfect life & to pick the day of someone's death to spout venom about that person is just despicable. This also goes for those of you that choose these types of occasions to lash out at others by using the memory of the dead.

 

[Iceweasel]

Why do people act like real asses when someone dies? No one leads a perfect life & to pick the day of someone's death to spout venom about that person is just despicable. This also goes for those of you that choose these types of occasions to lash out at others by using the memory of the dead.

Who the fuck is lashing out? We are talking about the person. My feelings don't change when someone dies. Maybe there should be a celebrity hang wringing ohmygodtheyaredead forum?

 

[TooTall]

He's dead at 74. He floated like a butterfly and stung like a bee.

Muhammad Ali, 'The Greatest of All Time', Dead at 74

I considered him a draft dodger and a loud mouth, but he paid the price with a 4 year suspension from boxing and backed up his big mouth in the ring when he returned. May he rest in peace.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Why do people act like real asses when someone dies? No one leads a perfect life & to pick the day of someone's death to spout venom about that person is just despicable. This also goes for those of you that choose these types of occasions to lash out at others by using the memory of the dead.

Who the fuck is lashing out? We are talking about the person. My feelings don't change when someone dies. Maybe there should be a celebrity hang wringing ohmygodtheyaredead forum?

There are 12 pages of responses & not all of them are yours.
Perhaps try to realize that my post might not have been all about you.

 

[TooTall]

Condolences to all in the Ali family. Sad ti see a guy pass away at only 74. Nowadays that is a young age for someone to die. Look a Bernie Sanders. He's 74 and he's a bundle of energy. Same with Ringo Starr and Mick Jagger, who tour the world and dance all over stages.

Something does need to be said about this "greatest" title we keep seeing and hearing so much, though. Muhammad Ali (AKA Cassius Clay) was perhaps "the greatest" at showmanship and self-promotion. As a boxer, he was a very good one, but he was far from being the greatest at that.

He lost a few fights, and there are other boxers (Rocky Marciano, Floyd Mayweather, Joe Calzaghe, Ricardo Lopez, Sven Ottke, Edwin Valero, and others) who fought dozens of fights, and still went UNDEFEATED. Valero won all 27 of his fights, all of them by knockouts. Not fair to these guys to call Ali "the greatest".

List of undefeated boxing world champions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

How many of those guys had four prime years taken away because they stood up for their political principles?

Is dodging the draft now considered a political principle?