Reuters: Trump up 13 points on Palin endorsement.

[Iceweasel]

Forbes is owned by billionaire liberals. All they do is pump out liberal propaganda. A sustained 5% unemployment rate is NOT GOOD. I'm sorry... it doesn't count the millions of people who are no longer eligible for benefits because their benefits ran out.

I don't believe the 5% number for a second but Bush was HAMMERED daily for those kind of numbers.

 

[Boss]

Forbes is owned by billionaire liberals. All they do is pump out liberal propaganda. A sustained 5% unemployment rate is NOT GOOD. I'm sorry... it doesn't count the millions of people who are no longer eligible for benefits because their benefits ran out.

I don't believe the 5% number for a second but Bush was HAMMERED daily for those kind of numbers.

Oh yeah... 5% under Bush was the end of the fucking world as we know it! Now, it's suddenly the greatest thing that has happened since WWII! Amazing, isn't it?

 

[Toro]

I don't think Trump is a racist but he certainly is a demagogue who is playing on tribal fears and xenophobia. His comments about Mexicans and Muslims are appalling, even if you agree that illegal immigration and radical Islam are problems. JoeB's Nazi Germany analogy is over the top - that's not going to happen here - but he's not entirely inaccurate either. Playing to people's fears about outsiders is bad. It leads down a very dark road. That's why I will never vote for Trump any circumstance. I'll vote for Hillary - and I really don't want to - if they are the candidates.

Well then, you're an idiot. Because, IF Hillary wins... we can expect 3 to 4 radical liberal Supreme Court justices and it's Game Over for this country. Got it? GAME OVER!

Then don't nominate Trump.

Lots of educated and moderate Republicans won't vote for Trump or will vote for Hillary. Much of the donor class will sit it out. Minorities won't vote for him.

He consistently polls worse against the Dems than the either GOP candidates.

If you don't want liberal SC justices, support another Republican candidate.

 

[MarcATL]

Forbes is owned by billionaire liberals. All they do is pump out liberal propaganda. A sustained 5% unemployment rate is NOT GOOD. I'm sorry... it doesn't count the millions of people who are no longer eligible for benefits because their benefits ran out.

Steve Forbes is a liberal?

C'mon. Be serious.

Steve Forbes does not own Forbes publishing. He sold a majority of the company to a Hong Kong investment group in 2012.

Thanks for that.

What makes you think that Integrated Whale Media Investments are liberals? Did their editorial content change?

I work in the investment business with private investors like that, and we have never, ever had any discussions regarding ideology. The only thing we care about is making money. If anyone with whom we invested were wasting our money on driving an ideology, we'd fire them in a heartbeat. So I'm not sure why anyone would think that these investors would change the content of a magazine that has been so successful for so long.

Because the facts don't comport to his ideology.

Iths thimple.

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[MarcATL]

Mitt Romney was too nice. The left wing trashed him with impunity every single day... on and on. It payed off. Same thing happened to McCain... too nice... didn't want to go negative... got schlonged! Same thing happened to G.W. Bush the last couple years of his presidency... didn't want to respond to the attacks... it was "beneath him" to do so,,, the left hammered and hammered until they destroyed him.

Repubs wear the mantle of victim hood so well.
Poor things. Between being scared to death and constantly picked on, how DO they get out of bed?
LMAO.

LoL! I know, right?

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[MarcATL]

Again... IF the Democrats continue to run on vitriolic hate-filled rants and blame Bush for all things wrong in the world.... Trump is going to clean your clocks. Trump is a very smart man with some very good ideas. But his ace in the hole is being able to effectively deal with loud mouth morons. You have NO chance of beating him in a schoolyard game of insults and denigration. He's going to get votes from people you didn't even know existed.

What a silly rant. What "hate filled rants" are coming from the dems? (People on this forum don't count.. and no one is "blaming" bush, you can't just ignore the fact that obama took over during a horrible recession, along with pathetic job growth during the bush years, etc, etc..)

Obama was elected because he claimed he could fix those things and he's made them worse. He's had 8 years, part of that with majorities in both houses of Congress. All he has to show for it is a fraudulent health care program he rammed down our throats which makes the insurance companies richer and raises everyone's health care premiums.

He has done nothing to help private enterprise grow, the jobs he claims he has created are temp jobs, part time jobs and shit jobs that no one wants. Our foreign policy is a disaster. You can fluff him all you want, his record will speak for itself. But this election isn't about Obama's record.

Worse according to who? You?

He has done nothing to help private enterprise grow

You're a partisan hack.
Obama Outperforms Reagan On Jobs, Growth And Investing
This is from forbes.
U.S. added 292,000 jobs in December; unemployment rate steady at 5 percent

The U.S. economy finished the year with a red-hot hiring spree, adding 292,000 new jobs as the unemployment rate held steady at 5 percent, according to new government data released Friday morning.
The latest jobs report exceeded the expectations of economists and investors and provided a reassuring note about the resiliency of the labor market, even amid volatile oil prices, a major slowdown in China and modest overall growth at home.
In all, the nation added 2.65 million jobs in 2015, the second-best year for hiring since 1999 and one that improved markedly in the last quarter. The economy added an average of 284,000 new monthly positions between October and December; in the first three-quarters of the year, the monthly pace was 200,000. Wage growth remains tepid, but the unemployment rate stands at its lowest point in more than seven years.

Forbes is owned by billionaire liberals. All they do is pump out liberal propaganda. A sustained 5% unemployment rate is NOT GOOD. I'm sorry... it doesn't count the millions of people who are no longer eligible for benefits because their benefits ran out.

Let us forget the other Republican candidates for the sake of this discussion, and just look at Trump.

The vitriol over Trump is for obvious reasons from the left, he is the GOPs Barack Obama with business acumen! He has very little political experience=Obama, he is virtually a clean slate that can be spun into almost anything=Obama, he has people wanting to come to his rallies en mass=Obama, he has voters re-registering to vote=Obama getting the youth vote. Also, he is defeating the establishment=Obama. His supporters are so pissed with status quo, they will virtually walk on glass to get to the polls=Obama, if he stays this popular he will likely hold all 3 branches of government with his coat tails= Obama ushering in a democratic 3 branches of government.

So how good does Trump need be? I dunno, how good was Obama? And; how good does does Trump have to be against his general election rival? I dunno, Obama ran against captured war prisoner, and Trump is running against the perceived slime(crime) family of the DNC!

Polls this far out on the general mean absolutely nothing. Hell, six weeks out from election day, Reagan was down an average of 8 points across the polls consistently, and at that time if I remember correctly, had NEVER been in front of Carter. Look what happened!

And in the primaries, OMG.....the establishment was ALL against Reagan. They wanted Bush senior as their nominee. Are we old enough to remember the phrase, "voodoo economics?" Every establishment rino had all bad to say about Reagan during the primaries, and when he got the nomination, the left tried its usual tactics to make people believe that Reagan was crazy, unstable, and should never have the codes to our missiles.

Point is, this is just history repeating itself as it often does. Neither establishment wanted Reagan; in this instance, neither establishment wants Trump or Cruz. Nothing new here! Reagan was not as crass as Trump, but he stood up to both the rinos, and the Democrats. Do we see some correlation here?!

The driving forces in Reagan's election was the Iran hostage crisis, and the economy. And again, history repeats itself virtually-------> The Iran nuclear deal, and the economy.....with a whole bunch of illegal aliens mixed in.

The left will smugly sit here and tell you that a repeat is not possible because of the demographic change in the country. I am not going to sit here and insult anyone's intelligence and proclaim it has not. Instead, I will remind you of a troubling number that is a dirty little secret to both establishment party's. You want change? You need a 57% turnout to come close to cementing it at the polls of ALL registered voters. Unless of course the opposition is weak, but change usually occurs at over 57% when it is a hard fought battle. Look back in history! One of the discrepancies was 80 and 84, because Carter had totally lost the confidence of his constituency, so they stayed home in disgust, and a landslide happened-) But I digress.

Who/whom is getting people to re-register? Who/whom is the agent of change this time, in support of virtually ALL of the things MOST important (by polls) to Americans? Who/whom has the PERCEIVED ability to fix the economy because it is his forte?

Now you know why the anger vote, fear, is sooo important, and yes, it is probably the MOST important emotions in this race! Doubt me? CONSIDER----------> You are in a 10 foot square cage which is slightly electrified at the top with barbed wire going 1/2 way up. 20ft outside stands your daughter or grand daughter, and someone comes up and proclaims....... if you can escape that containment in 1 hr, I will hand her 100,000 dollars! Hmmmmmmmm!

Now consider the same scenario, but the person proclaims.............if you DON'T escape that containment in 1hr, I am going to rape her in front of your face.

What do you think folks? Fear and anger certainly will do it, and that is why the left fears Trump and Cruz! They are the vehicles of change that can help you stop them; or are seen as the vehicles, and you will show at the polls to stick it in those peoples eyes! Romney wasn't, Mcain certainly wasn't. Nice people for sure, but not the battlers to get you there in the voting booth, no matter what. And Hilly? Hilly! Who/whom believes anything other than; "she is the agent of status quo!"

But as it turns out, the critics WERE righr. Reagan was crazy, unstable and gave us voodoo economics that totally messed up the country. It's amazing that the USA actually survived that lunatic in Office.

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[Boss]

I don't think Trump is a racist but he certainly is a demagogue who is playing on tribal fears and xenophobia. His comments about Mexicans and Muslims are appalling, even if you agree that illegal immigration and radical Islam are problems. JoeB's Nazi Germany analogy is over the top - that's not going to happen here - but he's not entirely inaccurate either. Playing to people's fears about outsiders is bad. It leads down a very dark road. That's why I will never vote for Trump any circumstance. I'll vote for Hillary - and I really don't want to - if they are the candidates.

Well then, you're an idiot. Because, IF Hillary wins... we can expect 3 to 4 radical liberal Supreme Court justices and it's Game Over for this country. Got it? GAME OVER!

Then don't nominate Trump.

Lots of educated and moderate Republicans won't vote for Trump or will vote for Hillary. Much of the donor class will sit it out. Minorities won't vote for him.

He consistently polls worse against the Dems than the either GOP candidates.

If you don't want liberal SC justices, support another Republican candidate.

Well Toro, it's not up to ME... I'm voting for Ted Cruz. If Trump wins, I'll vote for Trump. I can't vote for a Socialist or Communist. Sorry... not gunna happen! It doesn't matter to me who the Republican candidate is, they will not appoint radical liberals to the Supreme Court. If Hillary wins, she WILL. That's a given and you should know that going in. If you don't, you deserve the three or four radical liberals she's going to appoint to SCOTUS and what comes with that. I'll be moving to Australia.

 

[imawhosure]

What a silly rant. What "hate filled rants" are coming from the dems? (People on this forum don't count.. and no one is "blaming" bush, you can't just ignore the fact that obama took over during a horrible recession, along with pathetic job growth during the bush years, etc, etc..)

Obama was elected because he claimed he could fix those things and he's made them worse. He's had 8 years, part of that with majorities in both houses of Congress. All he has to show for it is a fraudulent health care program he rammed down our throats which makes the insurance companies richer and raises everyone's health care premiums.

He has done nothing to help private enterprise grow, the jobs he claims he has created are temp jobs, part time jobs and shit jobs that no one wants. Our foreign policy is a disaster. You can fluff him all you want, his record will speak for itself. But this election isn't about Obama's record.

Worse according to who? You?

He has done nothing to help private enterprise grow

You're a partisan hack.
Obama Outperforms Reagan On Jobs, Growth And Investing
This is from forbes.
U.S. added 292,000 jobs in December; unemployment rate steady at 5 percent

The U.S. economy finished the year with a red-hot hiring spree, adding 292,000 new jobs as the unemployment rate held steady at 5 percent, according to new government data released Friday morning.
The latest jobs report exceeded the expectations of economists and investors and provided a reassuring note about the resiliency of the labor market, even amid volatile oil prices, a major slowdown in China and modest overall growth at home.
In all, the nation added 2.65 million jobs in 2015, the second-best year for hiring since 1999 and one that improved markedly in the last quarter. The economy added an average of 284,000 new monthly positions between October and December; in the first three-quarters of the year, the monthly pace was 200,000. Wage growth remains tepid, but the unemployment rate stands at its lowest point in more than seven years.

Forbes is owned by billionaire liberals. All they do is pump out liberal propaganda. A sustained 5% unemployment rate is NOT GOOD. I'm sorry... it doesn't count the millions of people who are no longer eligible for benefits because their benefits ran out.

Let us forget the other Republican candidates for the sake of this discussion, and just look at Trump.

The vitriol over Trump is for obvious reasons from the left, he is the GOPs Barack Obama with business acumen! He has very little political experience=Obama, he is virtually a clean slate that can be spun into almost anything=Obama, he has people wanting to come to his rallies en mass=Obama, he has voters re-registering to vote=Obama getting the youth vote. Also, he is defeating the establishment=Obama. His supporters are so pissed with status quo, they will virtually walk on glass to get to the polls=Obama, if he stays this popular he will likely hold all 3 branches of government with his coat tails= Obama ushering in a democratic 3 branches of government.

So how good does Trump need be? I dunno, how good was Obama? And; how good does does Trump have to be against his general election rival? I dunno, Obama ran against captured war prisoner, and Trump is running against the perceived slime(crime) family of the DNC!

Polls this far out on the general mean absolutely nothing. Hell, six weeks out from election day, Reagan was down an average of 8 points across the polls consistently, and at that time if I remember correctly, had NEVER been in front of Carter. Look what happened!

And in the primaries, OMG.....the establishment was ALL against Reagan. They wanted Bush senior as their nominee. Are we old enough to remember the phrase, "voodoo economics?" Every establishment rino had all bad to say about Reagan during the primaries, and when he got the nomination, the left tried its usual tactics to make people believe that Reagan was crazy, unstable, and should never have the codes to our missiles.

Point is, this is just history repeating itself as it often does. Neither establishment wanted Reagan; in this instance, neither establishment wants Trump or Cruz. Nothing new here! Reagan was not as crass as Trump, but he stood up to both the rinos, and the Democrats. Do we see some correlation here?!

The driving forces in Reagan's election was the Iran hostage crisis, and the economy. And again, history repeats itself virtually-------> The Iran nuclear deal, and the economy.....with a whole bunch of illegal aliens mixed in.

The left will smugly sit here and tell you that a repeat is not possible because of the demographic change in the country. I am not going to sit here and insult anyone's intelligence and proclaim it has not. Instead, I will remind you of a troubling number that is a dirty little secret to both establishment party's. You want change? You need a 57% turnout to come close to cementing it at the polls of ALL registered voters. Unless of course the opposition is weak, but change usually occurs at over 57% when it is a hard fought battle. Look back in history! One of the discrepancies was 80 and 84, because Carter had totally lost the confidence of his constituency, so they stayed home in disgust, and a landslide happened-) But I digress.

Who/whom is getting people to re-register? Who/whom is the agent of change this time, in support of virtually ALL of the things MOST important (by polls) to Americans? Who/whom has the PERCEIVED ability to fix the economy because it is his forte?

Now you know why the anger vote, fear, is sooo important, and yes, it is probably the MOST important emotions in this race! Doubt me? CONSIDER----------> You are in a 10 foot square cage which is slightly electrified at the top with barbed wire going 1/2 way up. 20ft outside stands your daughter or grand daughter, and someone comes up and proclaims....... if you can escape that containment in 1 hr, I will hand her 100,000 dollars! Hmmmmmmmm!

Now consider the same scenario, but the person proclaims.............if you DON'T escape that containment in 1hr, I am going to rape her in front of your face.

What do you think folks? Fear and anger certainly will do it, and that is why the left fears Trump and Cruz! They are the vehicles of change that can help you stop them; or are seen as the vehicles, and you will show at the polls to stick it in those peoples eyes! Romney wasn't, Mcain certainly wasn't. Nice people for sure, but not the battlers to get you there in the voting booth, no matter what. And Hilly? Hilly! Who/whom believes anything other than; "she is the agent of status quo!"

But as it turns out, the critics WERE righr. Reagan was crazy, unstable and gave us voodoo economics that totally messed up the country. It's amazing that the USA actually survived that lunatic in Office.

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Good luck selling that one to the blue collar Democrats who gave him a landslide twice. And guess what! same thing is becoming a decent probability of happening this time. You don't actually think that Trump's support is coming only from the GOP do you?

Here, lets do an experiment, all of us, and we will have a better idea what is going on! In the states Trump wins that are GOP only, lets see what his margin of victory is.

Then in the states that have open primaries, lets check those, and see which margin is larger, especially in the early voting ones.

Why only the early voting ones? Because they are a better barometer of cross over vote, because the DNC has yet to pick it's candidate, and we know the DNC does NOT want Bernie so will vote Democratic till the nomination is secured.

Let us try this experiment, yes? We will see a reasonable trend of cross over vote in this manner-) May come out in your favor; who knows, but I kinda doubt it-)

 

[jillian]

He's not going to win the general.

It is interesting that you are so invested that you cannot conceive that events might not go as you want.

It's not about being invested. He only had the support of 40% of 47% of the electorate. He alienates everyone who isn't white male. You can't win a general election without the rest of us.

Not true; I know lots of White Females who are voting for Trump.

There are always some radical rightwingnut women. Your personal acquaintances aren't reflective of the vast majority of us.

And let's. It forget black and Hispanic women vote too. And they aren't voting for trump

Trump is the ONLY candidate being honest about Careers & Jobs; without these issues being addressed everything falls apart.

No. He's telling the wingers what you want to hear. Every economist says he doesn't know what he's talking about.

 

[jillian]

Obama was elected because he claimed he could fix those things and he's made them worse. He's had 8 years, part of that with majorities in both houses of Congress. All he has to show for it is a fraudulent health care program he rammed down our throats which makes the insurance companies richer and raises everyone's health care premiums.

He has done nothing to help private enterprise grow, the jobs he claims he has created are temp jobs, part time jobs and shit jobs that no one wants. Our foreign policy is a disaster. You can fluff him all you want, his record will speak for itself. But this election isn't about Obama's record.

Worse according to who? You?

He has done nothing to help private enterprise grow

You're a partisan hack.
Obama Outperforms Reagan On Jobs, Growth And Investing
This is from forbes.
U.S. added 292,000 jobs in December; unemployment rate steady at 5 percent

The U.S. economy finished the year with a red-hot hiring spree, adding 292,000 new jobs as the unemployment rate held steady at 5 percent, according to new government data released Friday morning.
The latest jobs report exceeded the expectations of economists and investors and provided a reassuring note about the resiliency of the labor market, even amid volatile oil prices, a major slowdown in China and modest overall growth at home.
In all, the nation added 2.65 million jobs in 2015, the second-best year for hiring since 1999 and one that improved markedly in the last quarter. The economy added an average of 284,000 new monthly positions between October and December; in the first three-quarters of the year, the monthly pace was 200,000. Wage growth remains tepid, but the unemployment rate stands at its lowest point in more than seven years.

Forbes is owned by billionaire liberals. All they do is pump out liberal propaganda. A sustained 5% unemployment rate is NOT GOOD. I'm sorry... it doesn't count the millions of people who are no longer eligible for benefits because their benefits ran out.

Let us forget the other Republican candidates for the sake of this discussion, and just look at Trump.

The vitriol over Trump is for obvious reasons from the left, he is the GOPs Barack Obama with business acumen! He has very little political experience=Obama, he is virtually a clean slate that can be spun into almost anything=Obama, he has people wanting to come to his rallies en mass=Obama, he has voters re-registering to vote=Obama getting the youth vote. Also, he is defeating the establishment=Obama. His supporters are so pissed with status quo, they will virtually walk on glass to get to the polls=Obama, if he stays this popular he will likely hold all 3 branches of government with his coat tails= Obama ushering in a democratic 3 branches of government.

So how good does Trump need be? I dunno, how good was Obama? And; how good does does Trump have to be against his general election rival? I dunno, Obama ran against captured war prisoner, and Trump is running against the perceived slime(crime) family of the DNC!

Polls this far out on the general mean absolutely nothing. Hell, six weeks out from election day, Reagan was down an average of 8 points across the polls consistently, and at that time if I remember correctly, had NEVER been in front of Carter. Look what happened!

And in the primaries, OMG.....the establishment was ALL against Reagan. They wanted Bush senior as their nominee. Are we old enough to remember the phrase, "voodoo economics?" Every establishment rino had all bad to say about Reagan during the primaries, and when he got the nomination, the left tried its usual tactics to make people believe that Reagan was crazy, unstable, and should never have the codes to our missiles.

Point is, this is just history repeating itself as it often does. Neither establishment wanted Reagan; in this instance, neither establishment wants Trump or Cruz. Nothing new here! Reagan was not as crass as Trump, but he stood up to both the rinos, and the Democrats. Do we see some correlation here?!

The driving forces in Reagan's election was the Iran hostage crisis, and the economy. And again, history repeats itself virtually-------> The Iran nuclear deal, and the economy.....with a whole bunch of illegal aliens mixed in.

The left will smugly sit here and tell you that a repeat is not possible because of the demographic change in the country. I am not going to sit here and insult anyone's intelligence and proclaim it has not. Instead, I will remind you of a troubling number that is a dirty little secret to both establishment party's. You want change? You need a 57% turnout to come close to cementing it at the polls of ALL registered voters. Unless of course the opposition is weak, but change usually occurs at over 57% when it is a hard fought battle. Look back in history! One of the discrepancies was 80 and 84, because Carter had totally lost the confidence of his constituency, so they stayed home in disgust, and a landslide happened-) But I digress.

Who/whom is getting people to re-register? Who/whom is the agent of change this time, in support of virtually ALL of the things MOST important (by polls) to Americans? Who/whom has the PERCEIVED ability to fix the economy because it is his forte?

Now you know why the anger vote, fear, is sooo important, and yes, it is probably the MOST important emotions in this race! Doubt me? CONSIDER----------> You are in a 10 foot square cage which is slightly electrified at the top with barbed wire going 1/2 way up. 20ft outside stands your daughter or grand daughter, and someone comes up and proclaims....... if you can escape that containment in 1 hr, I will hand her 100,000 dollars! Hmmmmmmmm!

Now consider the same scenario, but the person proclaims.............if you DON'T escape that containment in 1hr, I am going to rape her in front of your face.

What do you think folks? Fear and anger certainly will do it, and that is why the left fears Trump and Cruz! They are the vehicles of change that can help you stop them; or are seen as the vehicles, and you will show at the polls to stick it in those peoples eyes! Romney wasn't, Mcain certainly wasn't. Nice people for sure, but not the battlers to get you there in the voting booth, no matter what. And Hilly? Hilly! Who/whom believes anything other than; "she is the agent of status quo!"

But as it turns out, the critics WERE righr. Reagan was crazy, unstable and gave us voodoo economics that totally messed up the country. It's amazing that the USA actually survived that lunatic in Office.

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Good luck selling that one to the blue collar Democrats who gave him a landslide twice. And guess what! same thing is becoming a decent probability of happening this time. You don't actually think that Trump's support is coming only from the GOP do you?

Here, lets do an experiment, all of us, and we will have a better idea what is going on! In the states Trump wins that are GOP only, lets see what his margin of victory is.

Then in the states that have open primaries, lets check those, and see which margin is larger, especially in the early voting ones.

Why only the early voting ones? Because they are a better barometer of cross over vote, because the DNC has yet to pick it's candidate, and we know the DNC does NOT want Bernie so will vote Democratic till the nomination is secured.

Let us try this experiment, yes? We will see a reasonable trend of cross over vote in this manner-) May come out in your favor; who knows, but I kinda doubt it-)

Trump is t Reagan. And women, minorities gays and young people run from you guys like the plague.

Also decades of flatlined middle class wages are proof that trickle down economics is the voodoo economics daddy bush said it was.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Assuming debt is always bad.

Debt is always bad.

Lucky for you that you pay cash for your vehicles and cash for your home.

As a matter of fact, I do pay cash for my cars and my home is paid for. I did not say that credit is bad thing. Debt is bad. Accumulating debt is bad. When you are spending more than you're taking in, it's bad. If you are taking in more than you spend, debt is being reduced and that is good. Trying to spin debt into a good thing is stupid and moronic.

So it's stupid to mortgage a home. Hey, people, this fuck thinks most of you are idiots.

 

[NYcarbineer]

If Trump gets the nomination, wouldn't that mean we'd see a lot more of Palin? nd do conservatives here think that would be a good thing?.

I think he's going to make Palin his Secretary of Energy. I think that would be a brilliant pick.

So would you say the more Palin on the campaign trail, the better?
.

Doesn't bother me... seems to really agitate the liberals but Trump isn't having any trouble doing that by himself. She is very popular in spite of all the flack she catches.

Again... I have to keep saying this... I am not a Trump supporter. I am voting for Ted Cruz. If Trump ends up winning the nomination, I will support him over Hillary or Bernie.

I am a little surprised that Palin endorsed Trump. I was expecting her to stay out of it and not back anyone until after the convention. But... It is what it is... I think it helps Trump and hurts Cruz... not by a lot but some. Right or wrong, I think she does have some influence on people.

Palin is very popular? Are you insane?

 

[imawhosure]

Worse according to who? You?
You're a partisan hack.
Obama Outperforms Reagan On Jobs, Growth And Investing
This is from forbes.
U.S. added 292,000 jobs in December; unemployment rate steady at 5 percent

Forbes is owned by billionaire liberals. All they do is pump out liberal propaganda. A sustained 5% unemployment rate is NOT GOOD. I'm sorry... it doesn't count the millions of people who are no longer eligible for benefits because their benefits ran out.

Let us forget the other Republican candidates for the sake of this discussion, and just look at Trump.

The vitriol over Trump is for obvious reasons from the left, he is the GOPs Barack Obama with business acumen! He has very little political experience=Obama, he is virtually a clean slate that can be spun into almost anything=Obama, he has people wanting to come to his rallies en mass=Obama, he has voters re-registering to vote=Obama getting the youth vote. Also, he is defeating the establishment=Obama. His supporters are so pissed with status quo, they will virtually walk on glass to get to the polls=Obama, if he stays this popular he will likely hold all 3 branches of government with his coat tails= Obama ushering in a democratic 3 branches of government.

So how good does Trump need be? I dunno, how good was Obama? And; how good does does Trump have to be against his general election rival? I dunno, Obama ran against captured war prisoner, and Trump is running against the perceived slime(crime) family of the DNC!

Polls this far out on the general mean absolutely nothing. Hell, six weeks out from election day, Reagan was down an average of 8 points across the polls consistently, and at that time if I remember correctly, had NEVER been in front of Carter. Look what happened!

And in the primaries, OMG.....the establishment was ALL against Reagan. They wanted Bush senior as their nominee. Are we old enough to remember the phrase, "voodoo economics?" Every establishment rino had all bad to say about Reagan during the primaries, and when he got the nomination, the left tried its usual tactics to make people believe that Reagan was crazy, unstable, and should never have the codes to our missiles.

Point is, this is just history repeating itself as it often does. Neither establishment wanted Reagan; in this instance, neither establishment wants Trump or Cruz. Nothing new here! Reagan was not as crass as Trump, but he stood up to both the rinos, and the Democrats. Do we see some correlation here?!

The driving forces in Reagan's election was the Iran hostage crisis, and the economy. And again, history repeats itself virtually-------> The Iran nuclear deal, and the economy.....with a whole bunch of illegal aliens mixed in.

The left will smugly sit here and tell you that a repeat is not possible because of the demographic change in the country. I am not going to sit here and insult anyone's intelligence and proclaim it has not. Instead, I will remind you of a troubling number that is a dirty little secret to both establishment party's. You want change? You need a 57% turnout to come close to cementing it at the polls of ALL registered voters. Unless of course the opposition is weak, but change usually occurs at over 57% when it is a hard fought battle. Look back in history! One of the discrepancies was 80 and 84, because Carter had totally lost the confidence of his constituency, so they stayed home in disgust, and a landslide happened-) But I digress.

Who/whom is getting people to re-register? Who/whom is the agent of change this time, in support of virtually ALL of the things MOST important (by polls) to Americans? Who/whom has the PERCEIVED ability to fix the economy because it is his forte?

Now you know why the anger vote, fear, is sooo important, and yes, it is probably the MOST important emotions in this race! Doubt me? CONSIDER----------> You are in a 10 foot square cage which is slightly electrified at the top with barbed wire going 1/2 way up. 20ft outside stands your daughter or grand daughter, and someone comes up and proclaims....... if you can escape that containment in 1 hr, I will hand her 100,000 dollars! Hmmmmmmmm!

Now consider the same scenario, but the person proclaims.............if you DON'T escape that containment in 1hr, I am going to rape her in front of your face.

What do you think folks? Fear and anger certainly will do it, and that is why the left fears Trump and Cruz! They are the vehicles of change that can help you stop them; or are seen as the vehicles, and you will show at the polls to stick it in those peoples eyes! Romney wasn't, Mcain certainly wasn't. Nice people for sure, but not the battlers to get you there in the voting booth, no matter what. And Hilly? Hilly! Who/whom believes anything other than; "she is the agent of status quo!"

But as it turns out, the critics WERE righr. Reagan was crazy, unstable and gave us voodoo economics that totally messed up the country. It's amazing that the USA actually survived that lunatic in Office.

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Good luck selling that one to the blue collar Democrats who gave him a landslide twice. And guess what! same thing is becoming a decent probability of happening this time. You don't actually think that Trump's support is coming only from the GOP do you?

Here, lets do an experiment, all of us, and we will have a better idea what is going on! In the states Trump wins that are GOP only, lets see what his margin of victory is.

Then in the states that have open primaries, lets check those, and see which margin is larger, especially in the early voting ones.

Why only the early voting ones? Because they are a better barometer of cross over vote, because the DNC has yet to pick it's candidate, and we know the DNC does NOT want Bernie so will vote Democratic till the nomination is secured.

Let us try this experiment, yes? We will see a reasonable trend of cross over vote in this manner-) May come out in your favor; who knows, but I kinda doubt it-)

Trump is t Reagan. And women, minorities gays and young people run from you guys like the plague.

Also decades of flatlined middle class wages are proof that trickle down economics is the voodoo economics daddy bush said it was.

What you say is not 100% true, but for the sake of debate this one time, we will accept it as reality.

It is not who runs from us, and goes wee-wee-wee, all the way home, but rather who does that, and stops at the polls to vote for Hillary-) Good luck with that, because ALL of us are running to the polls for sure!

This election is probably going to be 58% turnout or higher, and that bodes badly for you. You can spin it all you want, but if it is over 56.9%, you are OUT OF POWER! Why? Because the agent of change drives the increase EVERY time throughout history. (doubt me? Check it out) Hillary is the status quo.

Now you may not know this, but I an Debbie Wasserman, Shultz know this, and she is drinking a whole bunch of Pepto, and I am not! (not yet anyway) What does that tell you, lololol!

 

[Seawytch]

Looks like Palin's endorsement is paying dividends for Trump. This surprises me

Reuters Poll: Trump’s Support Jumps to 40 Percent


A new Reuters poll of Republicans shows that GOP frontrunner Donald Trump has expanded his national lead over rivals since his Jan. 19 endorsement by former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.

The new poll of 2,508 Republicans, taken over several days, showed Trump at 40 percent and Cruz sharply down to 10.5 percent. That’s a 29.5-point margin.
Reuters’ Jan. 19 results showed Trump at 33 percent to Cruz’s 16 percent, which was a 17-point margin.
The Reuters poll is here, and can be adjusted to show the candidates’ popularity among various subgroups.
[FONT=Georgia, serif]Reuters Poll: Trump's Support Jumps to 40 Percent - Breitbart[/FONT]

Perfect. No Democrat has a problem with this being 2008 all over again in the general election.

Forget 2008, Trump getting beaten by Hillary will rival Goldwater's defeat.

 

[jillian]

Forbes is owned by billionaire liberals. All they do is pump out liberal propaganda. A sustained 5% unemployment rate is NOT GOOD. I'm sorry... it doesn't count the millions of people who are no longer eligible for benefits because their benefits ran out.

Let us forget the other Republican candidates for the sake of this discussion, and just look at Trump.

The vitriol over Trump is for obvious reasons from the left, he is the GOPs Barack Obama with business acumen! He has very little political experience=Obama, he is virtually a clean slate that can be spun into almost anything=Obama, he has people wanting to come to his rallies en mass=Obama, he has voters re-registering to vote=Obama getting the youth vote. Also, he is defeating the establishment=Obama. His supporters are so pissed with status quo, they will virtually walk on glass to get to the polls=Obama, if he stays this popular he will likely hold all 3 branches of government with his coat tails= Obama ushering in a democratic 3 branches of government.

So how good does Trump need be? I dunno, how good was Obama? And; how good does does Trump have to be against his general election rival? I dunno, Obama ran against captured war prisoner, and Trump is running against the perceived slime(crime) family of the DNC!

Polls this far out on the general mean absolutely nothing. Hell, six weeks out from election day, Reagan was down an average of 8 points across the polls consistently, and at that time if I remember correctly, had NEVER been in front of Carter. Look what happened!

And in the primaries, OMG.....the establishment was ALL against Reagan. They wanted Bush senior as their nominee. Are we old enough to remember the phrase, "voodoo economics?" Every establishment rino had all bad to say about Reagan during the primaries, and when he got the nomination, the left tried its usual tactics to make people believe that Reagan was crazy, unstable, and should never have the codes to our missiles.

Point is, this is just history repeating itself as it often does. Neither establishment wanted Reagan; in this instance, neither establishment wants Trump or Cruz. Nothing new here! Reagan was not as crass as Trump, but he stood up to both the rinos, and the Democrats. Do we see some correlation here?!

The driving forces in Reagan's election was the Iran hostage crisis, and the economy. And again, history repeats itself virtually-------> The Iran nuclear deal, and the economy.....with a whole bunch of illegal aliens mixed in.

The left will smugly sit here and tell you that a repeat is not possible because of the demographic change in the country. I am not going to sit here and insult anyone's intelligence and proclaim it has not. Instead, I will remind you of a troubling number that is a dirty little secret to both establishment party's. You want change? You need a 57% turnout to come close to cementing it at the polls of ALL registered voters. Unless of course the opposition is weak, but change usually occurs at over 57% when it is a hard fought battle. Look back in history! One of the discrepancies was 80 and 84, because Carter had totally lost the confidence of his constituency, so they stayed home in disgust, and a landslide happened-) But I digress.

Who/whom is getting people to re-register? Who/whom is the agent of change this time, in support of virtually ALL of the things MOST important (by polls) to Americans? Who/whom has the PERCEIVED ability to fix the economy because it is his forte?

Now you know why the anger vote, fear, is sooo important, and yes, it is probably the MOST important emotions in this race! Doubt me? CONSIDER----------> You are in a 10 foot square cage which is slightly electrified at the top with barbed wire going 1/2 way up. 20ft outside stands your daughter or grand daughter, and someone comes up and proclaims....... if you can escape that containment in 1 hr, I will hand her 100,000 dollars! Hmmmmmmmm!

Now consider the same scenario, but the person proclaims.............if you DON'T escape that containment in 1hr, I am going to rape her in front of your face.

What do you think folks? Fear and anger certainly will do it, and that is why the left fears Trump and Cruz! They are the vehicles of change that can help you stop them; or are seen as the vehicles, and you will show at the polls to stick it in those peoples eyes! Romney wasn't, Mcain certainly wasn't. Nice people for sure, but not the battlers to get you there in the voting booth, no matter what. And Hilly? Hilly! Who/whom believes anything other than; "she is the agent of status quo!"

But as it turns out, the critics WERE righr. Reagan was crazy, unstable and gave us voodoo economics that totally messed up the country. It's amazing that the USA actually survived that lunatic in Office.

Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk

Good luck selling that one to the blue collar Democrats who gave him a landslide twice. And guess what! same thing is becoming a decent probability of happening this time. You don't actually think that Trump's support is coming only from the GOP do you?

Here, lets do an experiment, all of us, and we will have a better idea what is going on! In the states Trump wins that are GOP only, lets see what his margin of victory is.

Then in the states that have open primaries, lets check those, and see which margin is larger, especially in the early voting ones.

Why only the early voting ones? Because they are a better barometer of cross over vote, because the DNC has yet to pick it's candidate, and we know the DNC does NOT want Bernie so will vote Democratic till the nomination is secured.

Let us try this experiment, yes? We will see a reasonable trend of cross over vote in this manner-) May come out in your favor; who knows, but I kinda doubt it-)

Trump is t Reagan. And women, minorities gays and young people run from you guys like the plague.

Also decades of flatlined middle class wages are proof that trickle down economics is the voodoo economics daddy bush said it was.

What you say is not 100% true, but for the sake of debate this one time, we will accept it as reality.

It is not who runs from us, and goes wee-wee-wee, all the way home, but rather who does that, and stops at the polls to vote for Hillary-) Good luck with that, because ALL of us are running to the polls for sure!

This election is probably going to be 58% turnout or higher, and that bodes badly for you. You can spin it all you want, but if it is over 56.9%, you are OUT OF POWER! Why? Because the agent of change drives the increase EVERY time throughout history. (doubt me? Check it out) Hillary is the status quo.

Now you may not know this, but I an Debbie Wasserman, Shultz know this, and she is drinking a whole bunch of Pepto, and I am not! (not yet anyway) What does that tell you, lololol!

you underestimate the intensity with which the trump brigade disgusts people. the ones who will stay home are the establishment republicans who are mortified by what you hijackers have done to their party. the rest of us will go out to vote to protect what we see as priorities from the theocrats and bigots on the right. you seem to think that you don't have to offer an alternative that wouldn't make us nauseous. that's the same mistake you made in the last two presidential elections.

 

[Correll]

Let us forget the other Republican candidates for the sake of this discussion, and just look at Trump.

The vitriol over Trump is for obvious reasons from the left, he is the GOPs Barack Obama with business acumen! He has very little political experience=Obama, he is virtually a clean slate that can be spun into almost anything=Obama, he has people wanting to come to his rallies en mass=Obama, he has voters re-registering to vote=Obama getting the youth vote. Also, he is defeating the establishment=Obama. His supporters are so pissed with status quo, they will virtually walk on glass to get to the polls=Obama, if he stays this popular he will likely hold all 3 branches of government with his coat tails= Obama ushering in a democratic 3 branches of government.

So how good does Trump need be? I dunno, how good was Obama? And; how good does does Trump have to be against his general election rival? I dunno, Obama ran against captured war prisoner, and Trump is running against the perceived slime(crime) family of the DNC!

Polls this far out on the general mean absolutely nothing. Hell, six weeks out from election day, Reagan was down an average of 8 points across the polls consistently, and at that time if I remember correctly, had NEVER been in front of Carter. Look what happened!

And in the primaries, OMG.....the establishment was ALL against Reagan. They wanted Bush senior as their nominee. Are we old enough to remember the phrase, "voodoo economics?" Every establishment rino had all bad to say about Reagan during the primaries, and when he got the nomination, the left tried its usual tactics to make people believe that Reagan was crazy, unstable, and should never have the codes to our missiles.

Point is, this is just history repeating itself as it often does. Neither establishment wanted Reagan; in this instance, neither establishment wants Trump or Cruz. Nothing new here! Reagan was not as crass as Trump, but he stood up to both the rinos, and the Democrats. Do we see some correlation here?!

The driving forces in Reagan's election was the Iran hostage crisis, and the economy. And again, history repeats itself virtually-------> The Iran nuclear deal, and the economy.....with a whole bunch of illegal aliens mixed in.

The left will smugly sit here and tell you that a repeat is not possible because of the demographic change in the country. I am not going to sit here and insult anyone's intelligence and proclaim it has not. Instead, I will remind you of a troubling number that is a dirty little secret to both establishment party's. You want change? You need a 57% turnout to come close to cementing it at the polls of ALL registered voters. Unless of course the opposition is weak, but change usually occurs at over 57% when it is a hard fought battle. Look back in history! One of the discrepancies was 80 and 84, because Carter had totally lost the confidence of his constituency, so they stayed home in disgust, and a landslide happened-) But I digress.

Who/whom is getting people to re-register? Who/whom is the agent of change this time, in support of virtually ALL of the things MOST important (by polls) to Americans? Who/whom has the PERCEIVED ability to fix the economy because it is his forte?

Now you know why the anger vote, fear, is sooo important, and yes, it is probably the MOST important emotions in this race! Doubt me? CONSIDER----------> You are in a 10 foot square cage which is slightly electrified at the top with barbed wire going 1/2 way up. 20ft outside stands your daughter or grand daughter, and someone comes up and proclaims....... if you can escape that containment in 1 hr, I will hand her 100,000 dollars! Hmmmmmmmm!

Now consider the same scenario, but the person proclaims.............if you DON'T escape that containment in 1hr, I am going to rape her in front of your face.

What do you think folks? Fear and anger certainly will do it, and that is why the left fears Trump and Cruz! They are the vehicles of change that can help you stop them; or are seen as the vehicles, and you will show at the polls to stick it in those peoples eyes! Romney wasn't, Mcain certainly wasn't. Nice people for sure, but not the battlers to get you there in the voting booth, no matter what. And Hilly? Hilly! Who/whom believes anything other than; "she is the agent of status quo!"

But as it turns out, the critics WERE righr. Reagan was crazy, unstable and gave us voodoo economics that totally messed up the country. It's amazing that the USA actually survived that lunatic in Office.

Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk

Good luck selling that one to the blue collar Democrats who gave him a landslide twice. And guess what! same thing is becoming a decent probability of happening this time. You don't actually think that Trump's support is coming only from the GOP do you?

Here, lets do an experiment, all of us, and we will have a better idea what is going on! In the states Trump wins that are GOP only, lets see what his margin of victory is.

Then in the states that have open primaries, lets check those, and see which margin is larger, especially in the early voting ones.

Why only the early voting ones? Because they are a better barometer of cross over vote, because the DNC has yet to pick it's candidate, and we know the DNC does NOT want Bernie so will vote Democratic till the nomination is secured.

Let us try this experiment, yes? We will see a reasonable trend of cross over vote in this manner-) May come out in your favor; who knows, but I kinda doubt it-)

Trump is t Reagan. And women, minorities gays and young people run from you guys like the plague.

Also decades of flatlined middle class wages are proof that trickle down economics is the voodoo economics daddy bush said it was.

What you say is not 100% true, but for the sake of debate this one time, we will accept it as reality.

It is not who runs from us, and goes wee-wee-wee, all the way home, but rather who does that, and stops at the polls to vote for Hillary-) Good luck with that, because ALL of us are running to the polls for sure!

This election is probably going to be 58% turnout or higher, and that bodes badly for you. You can spin it all you want, but if it is over 56.9%, you are OUT OF POWER! Why? Because the agent of change drives the increase EVERY time throughout history. (doubt me? Check it out) Hillary is the status quo.

Now you may not know this, but I an Debbie Wasserman, Shultz know this, and she is drinking a whole bunch of Pepto, and I am not! (not yet anyway) What does that tell you, lololol!

you underestimate the intensity with which the trump brigade disgusts people. the ones who will stay home are the establishment republicans who are mortified by what you hijackers have done to their party. the rest of us will go out to vote to protect what we see as priorities from the theocrats and bigots on the right. you seem to think that you don't have to offer an alternative that wouldn't make us nauseous. that's the same mistake you made in the last two presidential elections.

It is the failures of the Establishment Republicans that has lead to this populist revolt.

Indeed, the same process is leading to Sanders rise against the Establishment Hillary.

 

[Kondor3]

...Meaning 60 percent of republicans don't support him. Republican 'new math' is as bizarre as it is ridiculous.

Cling to the illusion while you can... judgment day's a-comin'...

 

[imawhosure]

Let us forget the other Republican candidates for the sake of this discussion, and just look at Trump.

The vitriol over Trump is for obvious reasons from the left, he is the GOPs Barack Obama with business acumen! He has very little political experience=Obama, he is virtually a clean slate that can be spun into almost anything=Obama, he has people wanting to come to his rallies en mass=Obama, he has voters re-registering to vote=Obama getting the youth vote. Also, he is defeating the establishment=Obama. His supporters are so pissed with status quo, they will virtually walk on glass to get to the polls=Obama, if he stays this popular he will likely hold all 3 branches of government with his coat tails= Obama ushering in a democratic 3 branches of government.

So how good does Trump need be? I dunno, how good was Obama? And; how good does does Trump have to be against his general election rival? I dunno, Obama ran against captured war prisoner, and Trump is running against the perceived slime(crime) family of the DNC!

Polls this far out on the general mean absolutely nothing. Hell, six weeks out from election day, Reagan was down an average of 8 points across the polls consistently, and at that time if I remember correctly, had NEVER been in front of Carter. Look what happened!

And in the primaries, OMG.....the establishment was ALL against Reagan. They wanted Bush senior as their nominee. Are we old enough to remember the phrase, "voodoo economics?" Every establishment rino had all bad to say about Reagan during the primaries, and when he got the nomination, the left tried its usual tactics to make people believe that Reagan was crazy, unstable, and should never have the codes to our missiles.

Point is, this is just history repeating itself as it often does. Neither establishment wanted Reagan; in this instance, neither establishment wants Trump or Cruz. Nothing new here! Reagan was not as crass as Trump, but he stood up to both the rinos, and the Democrats. Do we see some correlation here?!

The driving forces in Reagan's election was the Iran hostage crisis, and the economy. And again, history repeats itself virtually-------> The Iran nuclear deal, and the economy.....with a whole bunch of illegal aliens mixed in.

The left will smugly sit here and tell you that a repeat is not possible because of the demographic change in the country. I am not going to sit here and insult anyone's intelligence and proclaim it has not. Instead, I will remind you of a troubling number that is a dirty little secret to both establishment party's. You want change? You need a 57% turnout to come close to cementing it at the polls of ALL registered voters. Unless of course the opposition is weak, but change usually occurs at over 57% when it is a hard fought battle. Look back in history! One of the discrepancies was 80 and 84, because Carter had totally lost the confidence of his constituency, so they stayed home in disgust, and a landslide happened-) But I digress.

Who/whom is getting people to re-register? Who/whom is the agent of change this time, in support of virtually ALL of the things MOST important (by polls) to Americans? Who/whom has the PERCEIVED ability to fix the economy because it is his forte?

Now you know why the anger vote, fear, is sooo important, and yes, it is probably the MOST important emotions in this race! Doubt me? CONSIDER----------> You are in a 10 foot square cage which is slightly electrified at the top with barbed wire going 1/2 way up. 20ft outside stands your daughter or grand daughter, and someone comes up and proclaims....... if you can escape that containment in 1 hr, I will hand her 100,000 dollars! Hmmmmmmmm!

Now consider the same scenario, but the person proclaims.............if you DON'T escape that containment in 1hr, I am going to rape her in front of your face.

What do you think folks? Fear and anger certainly will do it, and that is why the left fears Trump and Cruz! They are the vehicles of change that can help you stop them; or are seen as the vehicles, and you will show at the polls to stick it in those peoples eyes! Romney wasn't, Mcain certainly wasn't. Nice people for sure, but not the battlers to get you there in the voting booth, no matter what. And Hilly? Hilly! Who/whom believes anything other than; "she is the agent of status quo!"

But as it turns out, the critics WERE righr. Reagan was crazy, unstable and gave us voodoo economics that totally messed up the country. It's amazing that the USA actually survived that lunatic in Office.

Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk

Good luck selling that one to the blue collar Democrats who gave him a landslide twice. And guess what! same thing is becoming a decent probability of happening this time. You don't actually think that Trump's support is coming only from the GOP do you?

Here, lets do an experiment, all of us, and we will have a better idea what is going on! In the states Trump wins that are GOP only, lets see what his margin of victory is.

Then in the states that have open primaries, lets check those, and see which margin is larger, especially in the early voting ones.

Why only the early voting ones? Because they are a better barometer of cross over vote, because the DNC has yet to pick it's candidate, and we know the DNC does NOT want Bernie so will vote Democratic till the nomination is secured.

Let us try this experiment, yes? We will see a reasonable trend of cross over vote in this manner-) May come out in your favor; who knows, but I kinda doubt it-)

Trump is t Reagan. And women, minorities gays and young people run from you guys like the plague.

Also decades of flatlined middle class wages are proof that trickle down economics is the voodoo economics daddy bush said it was.

What you say is not 100% true, but for the sake of debate this one time, we will accept it as reality.

It is not who runs from us, and goes wee-wee-wee, all the way home, but rather who does that, and stops at the polls to vote for Hillary-) Good luck with that, because ALL of us are running to the polls for sure!

This election is probably going to be 58% turnout or higher, and that bodes badly for you. You can spin it all you want, but if it is over 56.9%, you are OUT OF POWER! Why? Because the agent of change drives the increase EVERY time throughout history. (doubt me? Check it out) Hillary is the status quo.

Now you may not know this, but I an Debbie Wasserman, Shultz know this, and she is drinking a whole bunch of Pepto, and I am not! (not yet anyway) What does that tell you, lololol!

you underestimate the intensity with which the trump brigade disgusts people. the ones who will stay home are the establishment republicans who are mortified by what you hijackers have done to their party. the rest of us will go out to vote to protect what we see as priorities from the theocrats and bigots on the right.

Hey, you believe whatever your little heart desires, lol. I am not telling you it won't happen the way you say, I am telling you the FACTS that of this point in time, the numbers don't support your theory. Politics change in an instant, this is true, and I will be the 1st to admit it. Still and all, as of this moment from virtually ALL internals, you have a losing hand, and are attempting to draw an inside straight to win. AS OF THIS MOMENT, not next week.

Doesn't matter! The point of this exercise is to show that YOU on the left are in trouble TODAY! All this nonsense from you that it "is in the bag," is nothing more than hot air, propaganda, and wishful thinking.

Don't take my word for it, e-mail good ole Debbie and ask her...............and be kind and Fed-Ex her a bottle of of Pepto, and a few Zanex pills while your at it. She is in need of them-)

 

[Kondor3]

...you underestimate the intensity with which the trump brigade disgusts people. the ones who will stay home are the establishment republicans who are mortified by what you hijackers have done to their party...

In truth, there aren't very many 'establishment' Republicans any longer.

This is the Year of Rebellion against the so-called Establishment, on both sides of the aisle.

Rather... I respectfully submit that you underestimate the disgust of Mainstream America with the Ruling Elites on BOTH sides of the aisle.

And, by all the evidence being gleaned from multiple polls, it appears that folks are quickly rushing-to and gravitating towards one banner of Rebellion or the other.

And, if the only ones stepping-up to lead the Rebellion are Atilla the Hun and Karl Marx, well, I think you're going to see a LOT of people coming out to vote.

Mostly to ensure that none of the Establishment types steal the nomination or the election away from the Rebellion.

On both sides of the aisle, Establishment party leadership doesn't know whether to shit or go blind.

Although, with the GOP barring of the National Review, in connection with the debating process, it could be that the GOP elites are actually beginning to get a clue.

There is a vast Populist Movement afoot, and that is probably healthy for both the Republic and its People, in the long run, despite anticipatory angst and anxiety.

Every so often, the People - the ultimate power in this country - metaphorically burn things down to the ground, and start over.

It's simply been so long since we've done this in connection with any of our political parties that related history is now beyond the realm of Living Memory.

The People, in all their coarseness and commonplace wisdom, will decide what is to unfold.

God bless The People.

Interesting times.

 

[Billy000]

Lol republicans remain focused on the issues? Like what? Cutting taxes on the top earners and corporations? We already know that doesn't do jack shit to stimulate the economy at large. Supply side economics is a lie. Anything else republicans run on is saying "no."

Well, this is just not true. We try to talk about our massive debt and deficit and you slam us with insinuations that we want to starve school kids and push old people off a cliff. We try to talk reasonable about the cost of health care and you claim we want poor people to get sick and die. We try to discuss the situation with radical Islam and you accuse us of hating brown people and tear into a rant about Bush. We talk about ensuring fair elections with voter ID and we're racists who want to put blacks back in chains.... Here in your own post, you go off on a rant about supply side economics which DID work for 30-something years. You don't even attempt to reasonably discuss anything... this thread is living proof. It is chock-full of hate and vitriol for the right. Just unreasonable, unhinged, denigration and shooting off of the mouth. And you've been doing it for so long you don't even realize you're doing it anymore.

Now, I can't do anything about Trump winning the GOP nomination. He's not who I am voting for in the primaries. I am supporting Ted Cruz, but you don't like Ted either. And I think you'll do the same thing with Cruz as you've done with every other Republican to run... denigrate and trash until you destroy their credibility. I don't think he knows how to deal with you, I don't think Carson knew and I don't think any of the others do... But Trump does. He's been dealing with your type for years and rather successfully.

You may not have noticed this but every time you've gone after Trump with your hyped-up rhetorical attacks, it has resulted in better poll numbers for him. He is like some kind of modern day political Svengali. Or like some nightmarish super-villain who just gets stronger the more you attack him. In any event, the only way I see you beating Trump is on a substantive debate of the issues... which I don't think any of you are capable of.

Stop pretending repubs care about the debt and deficit when they insist on ridiculous tax cuts like Bush's. His cuts have greatly contributed to our debt but good luck getting repubs to admit that.

Voter ID fraud is statistically rare. You people giving anecdotal evidence of it happening will not change that. Repubs just want to miminize voting. Why else would they give a shit?

Why don't they want to do anything about our crumbling infrastructure or an actual plan to lower healthcare costs? They whine about the costs but do NOTHING about it. The prices of pharmaceuticals in this country are insane.

And oh yeah, Cruz has absolutely nothing new to offer. Obviously he is a mistake.