RICO Prosecution of Climate Chaos Skeptics

[JoeNormal]

Oil companies will face the same type of lawsuits that tobacco companies are facing today. Knowing the effects of using their product but denying and serving up misinformation in an attempt to save their industry.

Knowing the effects of using their product

Cheap, reliable energy that allows our modern economy to thrive.
Yeah, we need to eliminate those effects, quickly! Durr.

LOL, yeah, too bad it's also killing the planet.

How and where?????

Again with the new Nasa C02 satellite most the C02 is coming from the Southern hemisphere... Not from fossil fuel

View attachment 69892

Looks equatorial to me. Almost like atmospheric currents carried it from other places

http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/oco2-full_w_legend.jpg

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Oil companies will face the same type of lawsuits that tobacco companies are facing today. Knowing the effects of using their product but denying and serving up misinformation in an attempt to save their industry.

Knowing the effects of using their product

Cheap, reliable energy that allows our modern economy to thrive.
Yeah, we need to eliminate those effects, quickly! Durr.

LOL, yeah, too bad it's also killing the planet.

 

[JoeNormal]

Oil companies will face the same type of lawsuits that tobacco companies are facing today. Knowing the effects of using their product but denying and serving up misinformation in an attempt to save their industry.

Pseudoscience

Yup. Saved the tobacco industry for years. Now the oil companies are using it.

 

[Freewill]

The leftwing douche bags in this forum will all claim they believe in freedom of speech. However, the vast majority of them support this Stalinist crap. when they can't win in the marketplace of ideas, the resort to the police state:

Paul Driessen - RICO Prosecution of Climate Chaos Skeptics​

It’s been a rough stretch for Climate Armageddon religionists and totalitarians.

Real World science, climate and weather events just don’t support their manmade cataclysm narrative. The horrid consequences of anti-fossil fuel energy policies are increasingly in the news. And despite campaigns by the $1.5-trillion-per-year government-industry-activist-scientific Climate Crisis Consortium, Americans consistently rank global warming at the very bottom of their serious concerns.

But instead of debating their critics, or marshaling a more persuasive, evidence-based case that we really do face a manmade climate catastrophe, alarmists have ramped up their shrill rhetoric, imposed more anti-hydrocarbon edicts by executive fiat and unratified treaty – and launched RICO attacks on their critics.

Spurred on by Senator Sheldon “Torquemada” Whitehouse (D-RI), Jagadish Shukla and his RICO-20 agitators, and their comrades, 16 of the nation’s 18 Democratic attorneys general (the other 32 are Republican) announced on March 29 that they are going after those who commit the unpardonable offense of questioning “consensus” climate science.

If companies are “committing fraud,” by “knowingly deceiving” the public about the threat of man-made carbon dioxide emissions and climate change, New York AG Eric Schneiderman intoned, “we want to expose it and pursue them to the fullest extent of the law,” under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act. “The First Amendment does not give you the right to commit fraud.”

Their initial target is ExxonMobil, but other companies, think tanks like CFACT and the Heartland Institute (with which I am affiliated), and even independent researchers and analysts (like myself) will be in their crosshairs. Even United States Attorney General Loretta Lynch says her office has “discussed” similar actions and “referred [the matter] to the FBI.”

These RICO investigations and prosecutions are chilling, unprecedented and blatantly un-American. They abuse our legal and judicial processes and obliterate the First Amendment freedom of speech rights of anyone who questions the catechism of climate cataclysm. The AGs’ actions are intended to browbeat skeptics into silence, bankrupt them with monumental legal fees and fines – and unjustly jail a few.

It is the campus “crime” of “unwelcome ideas” and “micro-aggression” on steroids. It is the inevitable result of President Obama’s determination to “fundamentally transform” the United States, ensure that electricity rates “necessarily skyrocket,” and carve his energy and climate policy legacy in granite.
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I am going to defend the left wing "douche bags" on this board. I have never seen them post in favor of free speech nor support it.

 

[Freewill]

We are getting 1 to 3 of white global warming overnight. Yeah.

 

[JoeNormal]

Oil companies will face the same type of lawsuits that tobacco companies are facing today. Knowing the effects of using their product but denying and serving up misinformation in an attempt to save their industry.

Knowing the effects of using their product

Cheap, reliable energy that allows our modern economy to thrive.
Yeah, we need to eliminate those effects, quickly! Durr.

LOL, yeah, too bad it's also killing the planet.

Aren't you a moderator or something? And this is your best response?

 

[Vigilante]

Who would have thought it would come down to this...

 

[Wyatt earp]

Oil companies will face the same type of lawsuits that tobacco companies are facing today. Knowing the effects of using their product but denying and serving up misinformation in an attempt to save their industry.

Knowing the effects of using their product

Cheap, reliable energy that allows our modern economy to thrive.
Yeah, we need to eliminate those effects, quickly! Durr.

LOL, yeah, too bad it's also killing the planet.

How and where?????

Again with the new Nasa C02 satellite most the C02 is coming from the Southern hemisphere... Not from fossil fuel

View attachment 69892

Looks equatorial to me. Almost like atmospheric currents carried it from other places

http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/oco2-full_w_legend.jpg

So you are playing fucking stupid and don't have a clue about deforestation in the southern hemisphere?

Ok stick with that if you wish.....

 

[Rustic]

Oil companies will face the same type of lawsuits that tobacco companies are facing today. Knowing the effects of using their product but denying and serving up misinformation in an attempt to save their industry.

Pseudoscience

Yup. Saved the tobacco industry for years. Now the oil companies are using it.

global cooling, global warming, Climate change is pseudoscience....

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Oil companies will face the same type of lawsuits that tobacco companies are facing today. Knowing the effects of using their product but denying and serving up misinformation in an attempt to save their industry.

Knowing the effects of using their product

Cheap, reliable energy that allows our modern economy to thrive.
Yeah, we need to eliminate those effects, quickly! Durr.

LOL, yeah, too bad it's also killing the planet.

Aren't you a moderator or something? And this is your best response?

No, not a moderator.
Best? No.
Good enough for you, definitely.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Oil companies will face the same type of lawsuits that tobacco companies are facing today. Knowing the effects of using their product but denying and serving up misinformation in an attempt to save their industry.

Pseudoscience

Yup. Saved the tobacco industry for years. Now the oil companies are using it.

Again where was the propaganda since the oil company's spent billions of dollars developing green energy?

 

[JoeNormal]

Oil companies will face the same type of lawsuits that tobacco companies are facing today. Knowing the effects of using their product but denying and serving up misinformation in an attempt to save their industry.

Knowing the effects of using their product

Cheap, reliable energy that allows our modern economy to thrive.
Yeah, we need to eliminate those effects, quickly! Durr.

LOL, yeah, too bad it's also killing the planet.

How and where?????

Again with the new Nasa C02 satellite most the C02 is coming from the Southern hemisphere... Not from fossil fuel

View attachment 69892

Looks equatorial to me. Almost like atmospheric currents carried it from other places

http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/oco2-full_w_legend.jpg

So you are playing fucking stupid and don't have a clue about deforestation in the southern hemisphere?

Ok stick with that if you wish.....

I have no idea where your image came from. Probably a cherry picked anomaly if you work by the same rules as most right wingers. If you go to the link I provided, you'll see that the highest concentrations are on the equator. So tell me genius, what big industrial co2 sources are there in equatorial Africa?

 

[Little-Acorn]

Is there any "Global Warming" going on?

Of course there is.

And man has nothing to do with it.

In truth, climates frequently change.

Sometimes the climate gets warmer.

And sometimes it gets colder.

That's been going on for as long as the planet has been orbiting the Sun. Or, as long as it's had a climate, at least.

And man has never had the slightest influence on it.

Manmade Global Warming has no factual backing whatsoever.

The people who say you should pay your $100 to help "fight global warming", are the same people who say you should pay your money for this fine bottle of snake oil that will cure all your ills. They are merely liars, charlatans, and con artists.

And polls show that 2/3 of Americans know exactly what these con artists are, and ignore them with the contempt they deserve.

Even the leftist loons who scream about how we have to use government to change everything, go back to the stone age, etc., to prevent some unknown catastrophe, have never been able to come up with even ONE study or example that backs up their claims.

What's funny is that, when they do name some study, it invariably turns out to be nothing but a bunch of long-winded claims which, finally, refer to some other "study" for proof. And what is in that other "study"? You guessed it - more long-winded claims, and eventually a reference to yet another study. And you can guess what is in that one, too.

The leftist global-whatever loons have been insisting on impending doom, and the urgent need to give government massive powers to change every bit of our lives to "avoid" that doom, for at least 40 years by my count. Literally billions of dollars have changed hands - usually into their hands - all over the world. And they still haven't come up with one shred of proof that man has had the least bit of influence on the climate changes that happen regularly around us. Nor is there any proof that man can do anything to change it.

***40 YEARS*** of screaming, caterwauling, and doomsaying. All without the slightest proof. Just references to references to references, ad infinitum. And demands that they be given complete power over all of us, to change what they cannot change.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Knowing the effects of using their product

Cheap, reliable energy that allows our modern economy to thrive.
Yeah, we need to eliminate those effects, quickly! Durr.

LOL, yeah, too bad it's also killing the planet.

How and where?????

Again with the new Nasa C02 satellite most the C02 is coming from the Southern hemisphere... Not from fossil fuel

View attachment 69892

Looks equatorial to me. Almost like atmospheric currents carried it from other places

http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/oco2-full_w_legend.jpg

So you are playing fucking stupid and don't have a clue about deforestation in the southern hemisphere?

Ok stick with that if you wish.....

I have no idea where your image came from. Probably a cherry picked anomaly if you work by the same rules as most right wingers. If you go to the link I provided, you'll see that the highest concentrations are on the equator. So tell me genius, what big industrial co2 sources are there in equatorial Africa?

I already told you deforestation ...Damn you are not the sharpest knife in the drawer are you?


Nasa C02 sattilite 2014



.

 

[JoeNormal]

LOL, yeah, too bad it's also killing the planet.

How and where?????

Again with the new Nasa C02 satellite most the C02 is coming from the Southern hemisphere... Not from fossil fuel

View attachment 69892

Looks equatorial to me. Almost like atmospheric currents carried it from other places

http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/oco2-full_w_legend.jpg

So you are playing fucking stupid and don't have a clue about deforestation in the southern hemisphere?

Ok stick with that if you wish.....

I have no idea where your image came from. Probably a cherry picked anomaly if you work by the same rules as most right wingers. If you go to the link I provided, you'll see that the highest concentrations are on the equator. So tell me genius, what big industrial co2 sources are there in equatorial Africa?

I already told you deforestation ...Damn you are not the sharpest knife in the drawer are you?


Nasa C02 sattilite 2014



.

Deforestation in equatorial Africa... A place that hasn't had any significant forests in a few thousand years. Yeah, let's go with that.

 

[bripat9643]

Oil companies will face the same type of lawsuits that tobacco companies are facing today. Knowing the effects of using their product but denying and serving up misinformation in an attempt to save their industry.

If that day ever comes, it means this country has devolved into a Stalinist dictatorship.

 

[bripat9643]

It's a pretty open-and-shut case with Exxon. Exxon's own documents show they knew global warming scence was good, and chose to deliberately lie about it, in order to increase their own profits. That's textbook racketeering, and is thus is covered by RICO.

However, financial motive is not required for racketeering. For example, if a denier think tank deliberately lied about the science, as they all do, in order to gain political power, that could also be considered to be racketeering.

Fortunately for deniers, rank stupidity is a valid defense, as racketeering does require intent. There has to be proof, as is present with the Exxon case, that the deniers knew they were lying about the science. And since most of the individual denier cultists here are just hysterical, stupid and thoroughly brainwashed, they're all off the hook.

Also, as individuals with no power, it's essentially impossible for single deniers to be guilty of racketeering. Acting like a crazy person on a message board may be immoral, but it will never be illegal.

Riddle me this did Exxon develope the natuna gas field off Indonesia and then try to cover it up?

What damage did Exxon do?

To compare it to the tobacco industry is childish and fucking insane...where were all the billboards, commercials during the 70s ~ 2000s denying climate change?

If the leftist douche bags score a success against one of their chosen targets, they will claim everyone else they choose to target is guilty of the same crime. Of course, their only real crime is being successful.

 

[bripat9643]

Oil companies will face the same type of lawsuits that tobacco companies are facing today. Knowing the effects of using their product but denying and serving up misinformation in an attempt to save their industry.

Knowing the effects of using their product

Cheap, reliable energy that allows our modern economy to thrive.
Yeah, we need to eliminate those effects, quickly! Durr.

LOL, yeah, too bad it's also killing the planet.

You're a delusional crackpot. CO2 is beneficial to the planet. The ideal concentration of CO2 for plants is 2000 ppm, not 400 ppm.

 

[Manonthestreet]

The leftwing douche bags in this forum will all claim they believe in freedom of speech. However, the vast majority of them support this Stalinist crap. when they can't win in the marketplace of ideas, the resort to the police state:

Paul Driessen - RICO Prosecution of Climate Chaos Skeptics​

It’s been a rough stretch for Climate Armageddon religionists and totalitarians.

Real World science, climate and weather events just don’t support their manmade cataclysm narrative. The horrid consequences of anti-fossil fuel energy policies are increasingly in the news. And despite campaigns by the $1.5-trillion-per-year government-industry-activist-scientific Climate Crisis Consortium, Americans consistently rank global warming at the very bottom of their serious concerns.

But instead of debating their critics, or marshaling a more persuasive, evidence-based case that we really do face a manmade climate catastrophe, alarmists have ramped up their shrill rhetoric, imposed more anti-hydrocarbon edicts by executive fiat and unratified treaty – and launched RICO attacks on their critics.

Spurred on by Senator Sheldon “Torquemada” Whitehouse (D-RI), Jagadish Shukla and his RICO-20 agitators, and their comrades, 16 of the nation’s 18 Democratic attorneys general (the other 32 are Republican) announced on March 29 that they are going after those who commit the unpardonable offense of questioning “consensus” climate science.

If companies are “committing fraud,” by “knowingly deceiving” the public about the threat of man-made carbon dioxide emissions and climate change, New York AG Eric Schneiderman intoned, “we want to expose it and pursue them to the fullest extent of the law,” under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act. “The First Amendment does not give you the right to commit fraud.”

Their initial target is ExxonMobil, but other companies, think tanks like CFACT and the Heartland Institute (with which I am affiliated), and even independent researchers and analysts (like myself) will be in their crosshairs. Even United States Attorney General Loretta Lynch says her office has “discussed” similar actions and “referred [the matter] to the FBI.”

These RICO investigations and prosecutions are chilling, unprecedented and blatantly un-American. They abuse our legal and judicial processes and obliterate the First Amendment freedom of speech rights of anyone who questions the catechism of climate cataclysm. The AGs’ actions are intended to browbeat skeptics into silence, bankrupt them with monumental legal fees and fines – and unjustly jail a few.

It is the campus “crime” of “unwelcome ideas” and “micro-aggression” on steroids. It is the inevitable result of President Obama’s determination to “fundamentally transform” the United States, ensure that electricity rates “necessarily skyrocket,” and carve his energy and climate policy legacy in granite.
​

Two can play that game, since we have more AGS time to go on offense and drag Hansen and his cronies into court.

 

[JoeNormal]

Oil companies will face the same type of lawsuits that tobacco companies are facing today. Knowing the effects of using their product but denying and serving up misinformation in an attempt to save their industry.

If that day ever comes, it means this country has devolved into a Stalinist dictatorship.

A woman just won something like $24 billion from one of the tobacco companies. Go figure, underhanded shit has consequences.