Right wingers...regarding Orlando tragedy....you have a tough choice to make

[SassyIrishLass]

You have a lot of fucking nerve, voting in a Muslim president and presuming to lecture us on conscious.

Now here's an example of the "intelligence" of a right winger (probably a"birther" also)......

After 7.5 years still having a hard time with a half-black president, aren't you?????

WHAT AN

The poster you are condemning as a rascist, never posted a word about the president's race, but you did.

Another right winger who can't ....or refuses to hear the DOG WHISTLE???
(and lies about it....LOL)

Muslim isn't a race, dumb ass

We must remember that ANYONE who criticizes this president IS a racist, in the small minds of some LWNJs....I mean after all, he has done such a wonderful job, the only reason for criticizing him must be racism.
Has to be a mental illness.

They've overused the word racist to the point I just yawn

 

[nat4900]

We must remember that ANYONE who criticizes this president IS a racist, in the small minds of some LWNJs....I mean after all, he has done such a wonderful job, the only reason for criticizing him must be racism.
Has to be a mental illness.

So you TOO believe that Obama is a secret Muslim?.....That he was born in Kenya???

Must be a bitch for you closeted racists to accept that a half-black president beat your ass TWICE,
LIVE WITH IT !!!!!!

 

[SassyIrishLass]

We must remember that ANYONE who criticizes this president IS a racist, in the small minds of some LWNJs....I mean after all, he has done such a wonderful job, the only reason for criticizing him must be racism.
Has to be a mental illness.

So you TOO believe that Obama is a secret Muslim?.....That he was born in Kenya???

Must be a bitch for you closeted racists to accept that a half-black president beat your ass TWICE,
LIVE WITH IT !!!!!!

See? They can't stop....this fool even thinks Muslim is a race, gets called out for his ignorance and then doubles down on stupid. Good grief

 

[rdean]

I wonder how many right wingers are say, "Hey, it was only queers. What's the big deal?"

That is ridiculous even for you.

Considering the hatred the right wing has for gays, it's a perfectly good question. In fact, it's really more of an observation.

 

[gipper]

I wonder how many right wingers are say, "Hey, it was only queers. What's the big deal?"

That is ridiculous even for you.

Considering the hatred the right wing has for gays, it's a perfectly good question. In fact, it's really more of an observation.

No it is stupidity, but you keep believing.

 

[gipper]

We must remember that ANYONE who criticizes this president IS a racist, in the small minds of some LWNJs....I mean after all, he has done such a wonderful job, the only reason for criticizing him must be racism.
Has to be a mental illness.

So you TOO believe that Obama is a secret Muslim?.....That he was born in Kenya???

Must be a bitch for you closeted racists to accept that a half-black president beat your ass TWICE,
LIVE WITH IT !!!!!!

See? They can't stop....this fool even thinks Muslim is a race, gets called out for his ignorance and then doubles down on stupid. Good grief

One thing is certain about some leftists, their hatred of those who oppose their political ideology, exceeds even the murderous actions of Islamic terrorists.

 

[kaz]

Damn you're stupid, It never ceases to amaze me. Read your own post. WE HAVE AN OPEN SOUTHERN BORDER!!!!

By your own argument, we would have less of a chance to stop guns coming across the border than France does.

Stupidity just oozes from you and our President who thinks this wasn't an Islamic fundamentalist attack

MORON.....my point was and is this....WHY the fuck should a would-be terrorist "smuggle" guns across the Mexican border when he can get one EASILY because of your screwed up need to arm everybody that wants a lethal weapon????

Answer THAT cretin......why smuggle when you can walk into ANY gun show and pick one up?

You may be the dumbest liberal on the site, that would be quite an achievement.

You argued that France can't stop terrorists from smuggling guns. We can't either. Even less than they can because we don't even try to protect our southern border and idiots like you fight attempting to protect the southern border.

That means the only ones you're keeping from buying guns are honest citizens. What difference does it make if you're dead if the gun was smuggled or bought legally? How does that help you???

 

[Divine Wind]

The guy is a terrorist and he chose to use the tool that is most effective. Nobody is ignoring who the guy is, you're deflecting.

The guy was a "known" potential terrorists. DHS apparently cleared him for a concealed carry.

No deflection. He was armed and recently purchased said weapons. My reply stands. So. He recently purchased weapons.

What does it have to do with my firearms and should my rights be curtailed due to his actions?

You for the most part don't have the right to either get or easily get a fully automatic weapon. You don't have the rights to some types of ammunition, all this because of what 'he' or 'them' or 'him' or 'you' may do with them.

What do "fully automatic weapons" have to do with this incident?

Liberals want to ban them. They want to ban everything they don't like.

That's all.

It cracks me up that they talk about how dangerous so-called "assault weapons" are, but they don't see the slightest danger in importing thousands of bloodthirsty savages.

Agreed. Also factor in they are more concerned with limiting the Second Amendment than they are in helping the mentally ill and restricting terrorists.

Omar Mateen was known to be abusive, angry and thought be mentally ill. He fantasized about radical Jihad and was suspected of being gay, which is fine, except that he was also homophobic to the point of violence. That is a very disturbed person. How does limiting my rights to a high capacity magazine help someone like Mateen? How does restricting the rights of lawful, sane American citizens prevent a homophobic, homosexual terrorist nut job from attacking others with guns, pressure cookers or a car bomb?

Omar Mateen: Gunman was familiar face at club, performer says - CNN.com
Chris Callen, who worked at Pulse as a performer, told CNN's Anderson Cooper he'd seen Mateen dozens of times at the club. According to his estimate, Mateen visited Pulse twice a month over a period of three years.

"He was very friendly when we said hi. He didn't seem like the kind of guy who just did what he did. It makes no sense," Callen said.
"My partner said that he was very nice [and seemed] comfortable.
Prior visits to Pulse are a line of inquiry investigators are pursuing, sources involved in the investigation tell CNN's Jim Scuitto and Evan Perez.
Pulse regular Kevin West told the Los Angeles Times that Mateen messaged him on a gay dating app several times in the year before the attack....

....."He was an angry person, violent in nature, and a bigot to almost every class of person," Dan Gilroy told CNN affiliate WPTV-TV in West Palm Beach. The former police officer asserts that he foresaw Mateen eventually committing an act of mass violence.

Mateen's ex-wife, Sitora Yusufiy, described a brief but violent relationship to a mentally-ill man whom she was only able to escape from through her family's help. She said he was physically abusive and a steroid abuser.
Mateen had even come to the attention of authorities, with the FBI interviewing him in two terror-related cases in recent years.
.....Gilroy, Mateen's former co-worker at PGA Village in Port St. Lucie, said Mateen often made homophobic, sexist and racist remarks.
"He would hit things and as he was hitting things, he would yell, and of course there was always curse words involved, and this wasn't seldom, this was all the time."

 

[bripat9643]

The bottom line here is that Omar broke the law carrying a gun into a gun free zone. Are you saying more laws would have stopped him?

Do your really believe limiting the rights of Americans gives them more freedom? Did you support the Patriot Act? Do you still support it?

Yes, real background checks and limits on who can own what kind of weapons WOULD have stopped this guy.

Liberal Dictionary:
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Real background checks - gun registration.

 

[nat4900]

You argued that France can't stop terrorists from smuggling guns. We can't either. Even less than they can because we don't even try to protect our southern border and idiots like you fight trying to protect the southern border.

That means the only ones you're keeping from buying guns are honest citizens. What difference does it make if you're dead if the gun was smuggled or bought legally? How does that help you???

MORON.......WHY should a wanna be terrorist smuggle a gun across the Mexican border INSTEAD of just walking into a gun show and buying one easily????? Answer that fucking question and you too may get a clue.

The point.....like the war on drugs.....is not to guarantee 100% prevention......but the curtailment of easily buying military-style lethal weapons.

 

[Divine Wind]

....the Founding Slave Rapists....

This is one of the many reasons why your credibility is lower than dog shit.

 

[bripat9643]

He did buy it legally. If the FBI had done a better job of investigating him in 2013, he would never have passed the background check. They didn't charge him for making threats to coworkers after claiming he was part of a terrorist group because he accused his coworkers of being Islamophobic. Political correctness often protects the wrong people and this is just one example.

Uh, no, they didn't charge him because it was clear that he was talking smack in 2013. When you claim to be a member of ISIS and Hezbollah, (groups that hate each other), you are not only talking smack, you aren't even particularly well informed.

There are stories coming out that this guy might have been gay and had been seen at the club several times before. That he used gay dating apps and he was singling out Hispanic patrons. This sounds less like a soldier of Allah and more like a spurned gay dude.

Orlando shooting: Gunman Omar Mateen 'was a regular at LGBT nightclub Pulse' and 'used gay dating apps'

That said, the real problem isn't his sexuality or religion. It was that he was CLEARLY insane and still legally able to acquire battlefield grade weapons.

The idea that any adherent of the bloodthirsty cult of Islam can be well adjusted doesn't pass the laugh test. Any one who believes that crap is bound to be mentally screwed up. The fact that this guy was a nut proves nothing. No matter how hard you attempt to divert attention from the central issue, you will fail. That issue is Islam.

 

[bripat9643]

I'm not ignoring the weapons effectiveness.

Again! He was a known radical. The Government failed in their responsibility.

The weapon was manufactured for the effectiveness.

You choose to curtail my rights instead of addressing the individual.

The guy is a terrorist and he chose to use the tool that is most effective. Nobody is ignoring who the guy is, you're deflecting.

The guy was a "known" potential terrorists. DHS apparently cleared him for a concealed carry.

No deflection. He was armed and recently purchased said weapons. My reply stands. So. He recently purchased weapons.

What does it have to do with my firearms and should my rights be curtailed due to his actions?

You for the most part don't have the right to either get or easily get a fully automatic weapon. You don't have the rights to some types of ammunition, all this because of what 'he' or 'them' or 'him' or 'you' may do with them.

What do "fully automatic weapons" have to do with this incident?

Liberals want to ban them. They want to ban everything they don't like.

That's all.

They're already illegal.

 

[Divine Wind]

Considering the hatred the right wing has for gays, it's a perfectly good question. In fact, it's really more of an observation.

Many, if not most, homophobes are latent homosexuals and it appears Omar Mateen was a homophobic gay too. Should we go back to classifying gays as mentally ill and restrict them from buying guns?

Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says
A former classmate of Omar Mateen’s 2006 police academy class said he believed Mateen was gay, saying Mateen once asked him out.....

.....The classmate said that he, Mateen and other classmates would hang out, sometimes going to gay nightclubs, after classes at the Indian River Community College police academy. He said Mateen asked him out romantically.

“We went to a few gay bars with him, and I was not out at the time, so I declined his offer,” the former classmate said. He asked that his name not be used.

He believed Mateen was gay, but not open about it. Mateen was awkward, and for a while the classmate and the rest in the group of friends felt sorry for him.


This undated image shows Omar Mateen, who authorities say killed dozens of people inside the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Fla., on Sunday, June 12, 2016. The gunman opened fire inside the crowded gay nightclub before dying in a gunfight with SWAT officers, police said. (MySpace via AP)

“He just wanted to fit in and no one liked him,” he said. “He was always socially awkward.”

In Orlando, the Los Angeles Times reported that Mateen attended the Pulse nightclub possibly as many as a dozen times before the rampage. Kevin West said he had messaged Mateen back and forth over a year’s time on the gay dating app Jack’d but never met him until he saw Mateen crossing the street about 1 a.m. Sunday.

“He walked directly past me. I said, ‘Hey,’ and he turned and said, ‘Hey,’” and nodded his head, West said. “I could tell by the eyes.”

At least four regular customers of Pulse, the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender nightclub where the massacre took place, told the Orlando Sentinel on Monday that they believed they had seen Mateen there before.

“Sometimes he would go over in the corner and sit and drink by himself, and other times he would get so drunk he was loud and belligerent,” said Ty Smith, who also uses the name Aries.

He saw Mateen at the club at least a dozen times, he told the Sentinel. “We didn’t really talk to him a lot, but I remember him saying things about his dad at times,” Smith said. “He told us he had a wife and child.”

The Canadian Press reported Monday that Mateen had been seen there over three years.

Chris Callen recalled the eventual killer being escorted drunk from the Pulse bar on multiple occasions, including one incident where he pointed a knife at a friend. Said Callen, who performs under the name Kristina McLaughlin, “He’s been going to this bar for at least three years.”

Mateen’s father emphatically told The Post Monday that his son was not gay.

“If he was gay, why would he do something like this?” Seddique Mateen asked.

The former classmate said the group, including Mateen, went to four gay clubs in the Treasure Coast and West Palm Beach in 2006: Kashmir Night Club in West Palm Beach, Byrd Cage in Port St. Lucie, Cold Keg in Melbourne and Rebar in Port St. Lucie.

 

[AntonToo]

The idea that any adherent of the bloodthirsty cult of Islam can be well adjusted doesn't pass the laugh test. Any one who believes that crasp is bound to be mentally screwed up. That proves nothing. No matter how hard you attempt to divert attention from the central issue, you will fail. That issue is Islam.

Are you at all aware that there about 1.8 billion muslims in the world, about 25% of population? What you say is straight up insane and adds nothing but fuel to the fire. Yea some muslims are backward, some are extremists and handful are violent...but what say is ALSO extremist.

What exactly is your fix for "Islam issue"? Online flame fests because some reject crazy snaps and shoots up the club?

 

[bripat9643]

The idea that any adherent of the bloodthirsty cult of Islam can be well adjusted doesn't pass the laugh test. Any one who believes that crasp is bound to be mentally screwed up. That proves nothing. No matter how hard you attempt to divert attention from the central issue, you will fail. That issue is Islam.

Are you at all aware that there about 1.8 billion muslims in the world, about 25% of population? What you say is straight up insane and adds nothing but fuel to the fire. Yea some muslims are backward, some are extremists and handful are violent...but what say is ALSO extremist.

What exactly is your fix for "Islam issue"? Online flame fests because some reject crazy snaps and shoots up the club?

By "the fire" you mean a policy of banning immigration from Muslim countries. Yes, I am adding fuel to that fire.

Using the word "extremist" is the sign of a demagogue. Truth is often extreme. Please explain why we should import a single one of these bloodthirsty savages. What do we have to gain? We already know we have plenty to lose.

 

[Divine Wind]

...What exactly is your fix for "Islam issue"? Online flame fests because some reject crazy snaps and shoots up the club?

Agreed, but that is exactly the logic the Left is using to ban/restrict guns.

 

[kaz]

You argued that France can't stop terrorists from smuggling guns. We can't either. Even less than they can because we don't even try to protect our southern border and idiots like you fight trying to protect the southern border.

That means the only ones you're keeping from buying guns are honest citizens. What difference does it make if you're dead if the gun was smuggled or bought legally? How does that help you???

MORON.......WHY should a wanna be terrorist smuggle a gun across the Mexican border INSTEAD of just walking into a gun show and buying one easily????? Answer that fucking question and you too may get a clue.

The point.....like the war on drugs.....is not to guarantee 100% prevention......but the curtailment of easily buying military-style lethal weapons.

Then what does it have to do with the terrorist attack if you admit that it wouldn't have done anything about that? And you call me a "moron?" Classic. Liberalism, brain dead on arrival

 

[easyt65]

No, the NRA is to blame because they've spent the last 30 years fighting any and all common sense gun control.

Nice opinion.

Like Obama has spent the last 8 years aiding the Muslim Brotherhood, ISIS, and Al Qaeida - the perpetrators of 9/11/01 ... and 9/11/12.

Like Pro-abortionists have spent decades protesting the right to murder children at any stage of pregnancy, to include the barbaric practice of late-term abortions!

 

[AntonToo]

]Agreed, but that is exactly the logic the Left is using to ban/restrict guns.

The logic to restrict guns is that we should't sell them to minors and crazies and we shouldn't sell those that make mass killings easy.

I don't see a single reason why this should be legal to obtain: