Roe and Casey overturned

[Captain Caveman]

Well, I thought I would look about some articles and stories on country's freedoms and liberties. The link I'll post is off Wikipedia that lists all countries against the freedom indices.

List of freedom indices - Wikipedia

The interesting part is, us in the UK are often reminded by some US citizens on how much controlled we are in the UK and how free Americans are. I took a screenshot of the UK beside the US -

Any thoughts on why maybe the UK is slightly ahead of the US?

 

[Sunsettommy]

Well, I thought I would look about some articles and stories on country's freedoms and liberties. The link I'll post is off Wikipedia that lists all countries against the freedom indices.

List of freedom indices - Wikipedia

The interesting part is, us in the UK are often reminded by some US citizens on how much controlled we are in the UK and how free Americans are. I took a screenshot of the UK beside the US -

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Any thoughts on why maybe the UK is slightly ahead of the US?

America is a Constitutional REPUBLIC!

 

[TNHarley]

We are NOT a democracy. What a stupid picture.

 

[JGalt]

The US is a "Flawed Democracy"???

What kind of idiots write for Wikipedia? And why do the leftists keep crying "muh democracy!! muh democracy!!! we must protect muh democracy!!!"?

 

[White 6]

Well, I thought I would look about some articles and stories on country's freedoms and liberties. The link I'll post is off Wikipedia that lists all countries against the freedom indices.

List of freedom indices - Wikipedia

The interesting part is, us in the UK are often reminded by some US citizens on how much controlled we are in the UK and how free Americans are. I took a screenshot of the UK beside the US -

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Any thoughts on why maybe the UK is slightly ahead of the US?

These are the judging indices used for that part of the Freedom indices published.

It a catagory system and these are the only descriptors, not taking into consideration, whether direct democracies or representative republic.
I would not be surprised it came out as flawed democracy (lacking a category of flawed representative republic). The flaw, as I see it, is typified by the 2020 election and the ongoing saga, after trump tried to overthrow the election, with support of many elected officials without proof of wrongdoing and totally against our constitution and rule of law, by attempting to block the recording of the electoral college and the peaceful transfer of power. We have the document (The US Constitution) but many elected, do not honor their oath to protect and defend it, so the representative republic sustained and led by democratically elected representatives is in peril for political gain, with no telling how long we will be governed under that document.

 

[toobfreak]

America is a Constitutional REPUBLIC!

Guess that is what passes as a Flawed Democracy to Wikipedia!

 

[Bleipriester]

The list is full of "regimes". How is that possible? Aren´t they busy to bring freedom 24 hours a day?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

We are NOT a democracy. What a stupid picture.

A Republic is a form of democracy

 

[Captain Caveman]

We are NOT a democracy. What a stupid picture.

I like your irony. If you had taken the time to click on "Prominent indices", it gives you the indices and their origin that are all sed to determine the scores.

 

[Captain Caveman]

A Republic is a form of democracy

In fact, the US is a Republic with Representative Democracy, probably why when events kick out, people scream about saving their democracy.

But the Prominent indices section lists which indices are used.

 

[Captain Caveman]

These are the judging indices used for that part of the Freedom indices published.
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It a catagory system and these are the only descriptors, not taking into consideration, whether direct democracies or representative republic.
I would not be surprised it came out as flawed democracy (lacking a category of flawed representative republic). The flaw, as I see it, is typified by the 2020 election and the ongoing saga, after trump tried to overthrow the election, with support of many elected officials without proof of wrongdoing and totally against our constitution and rule of law, by attempting to block the recording of the electoral college and the peaceful transfer of power. We have the document (The US Constitution) but many elected, do not honor their oath to protect and defend it, so the representative republic sustained and led by democratically elected representatives is in peril for political gain, with no telling how long we will be governed under that document.

The only flawed part is, apart from yourself, no one so far has noticed the Prominent Indices section of the link. I assume people are "free" enough to read a "full" link? Well, I would have thought so.

 

[cnm]

America is a Constitutional REPUBLIC!

And many of its citizens don't understand the concept of dictionaries.

democracy noun (democracies) 1 a form of government in which the people govern themselves or elect representatives to govern them. 2 a country, state or other body with such a form of government.​

ETYMOLOGY: 16c: from French démocratie, from Greek demos people + kratos strength.​

 

[cnm]

The US is a "Flawed Democracy"???

January 27, 2017​

A report by the The Economist Intelligence Unit, released today, reveals a host of unsettling statistics about the scope of democracy around the globe. ​

One such fact — that for the first time ever, the United States is no longer considered a “full democracy,” but rather a “flawed democracy” — stands out in particular as the US ushers in a president with an approval rating hovering around 40%.​

The US designation as a “flawed democracy” is really more nominal than anything, simply meaning that the country’s Democracy Index — which is based off of five categories related to governance — has fallen below eight out of 10. ​

The United States Is Now a ‘Flawed Democracy’: Report

For the first time ever, the United States has been downgraded to a ‘flawed democracy’, says a Economist Intelligence Unit report.

www.globalcitizen.org

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[Captain Caveman]

We are NOT a democracy. What a stupid picture.

What on earth are you on about. America is a democracy.

A Republic doesn't have a Monarchy, so rather than have a King or Queen as head of state, it elects a president as head of state. A direct democracy is where the people make laws and a representative democracy is where the people elect others to represent them to make laws.

Did you not know what a republic and a democracy were??

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Well, I thought I would look about some articles and stories on country's freedoms and liberties. The link I'll post is off Wikipedia that lists all countries against the freedom indices.

List of freedom indices - Wikipedia

The interesting part is, us in the UK are often reminded by some US citizens on how much controlled we are in the UK and how free Americans are. I took a screenshot of the UK beside the US -

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Any thoughts on why maybe the UK is slightly ahead of the US?

The UK is in no manner 'ahead' of the US - 'slightly' or otherwise.

In the UK individuals who engage in hate speech can be subject to criminal prosecution.

Hate crime | The Crown Prosecution Service

www.cps.gov.uk

That’s not the case in the United States, where hate speech is entitled to First Amendment protections.

Consequently, a ‘pure’ or ‘direct’ democracy such as in the UK can jeopardize individual rights, where the people are subject to the tyranny of majority rule.

In the United States, citizens are subject to the rule of law – not men – as men are incapable of ruling justly.

In recent years, however, American governance has been co-opted and corrupted by the partisan right resulting in the tyranny of minority rule.

Consequently, the political systems of both the US and UK are equally flawed, one neither superior nor desirable to the other.

 

[there4eyeM]

Rating The UK over the US is indefensible. Freedom of speech alone is a huge difference.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Well, I thought I would look about some articles and stories on country's freedoms and liberties. The link I'll post is off Wikipedia that lists all countries against the freedom indices.

List of freedom indices - Wikipedia

The interesting part is, us in the UK are often reminded by some US citizens on how much controlled we are in the UK and how free Americans are. I took a screenshot of the UK beside the US -

View attachment 661419


Any thoughts on why maybe the UK is slightly ahead of the US?

America is not a democracy it's a Republic.

 

[Captain Caveman]

The UK is in no manner 'ahead' of the US - 'slightly' or otherwise.

In the UK individuals who engage in hate speech can be subject to criminal prosecution.

Hate crime | The Crown Prosecution Service

www.cps.gov.uk

That’s not the case in the United States, where hate speech is entitled to First Amendment protections.

Consequently, a ‘pure’ or ‘direct’ democracy such as in the UK can jeopardize individual rights, where the people are subject to the tyranny of majority rule.

In the United States, citizens are subject to the rule of law – not men – as men are incapable of ruling justly.

In recent years, however, American governance has been co-opted and corrupted by the partisan right resulting in the tyranny of minority rule.

Consequently, the political systems of both the US and UK are equally flawed, one neither superior nor desirable to the other.

Looking at the link, looks like the UK has it's nose slightly infront of America's.

 

[cnm]

Did you not know what a republic and a democracy were??

They have been fed some propaganda about mob rule...

 

[cnm]

Consequently, a ‘pure’ or ‘direct’ democracy such as in the UK can jeopardize individual rights, where the people are subject to the tyranny of majority rule.

In the United States, citizens are subject to the rule of law – not men – as men are incapable of ruling justly.

Jesus. What a load of crap.