Roe and Casey overturned

[cnm]

Rating The UK over the US is indefensible. Freedom of speech alone is a huge difference.

Being able to call someone the n* word is overrated.

 

[Captain Caveman]

America is not a democracy it's a Republic.

A country with a Monarchy has a King or Queen as it's head of State. A Republic has a President as it's head of State. A democracy relates to the people making laws/electing representatives to make laws, to have a vote etc..

 

[cnm]

America is not a democracy it's a Republic.

Hold it right there! Dictionary trouble...

 

[frigidweirdo]

Well, I thought I would look about some articles and stories on country's freedoms and liberties. The link I'll post is off Wikipedia that lists all countries against the freedom indices.

List of freedom indices - Wikipedia

The interesting part is, us in the UK are often reminded by some US citizens on how much controlled we are in the UK and how free Americans are. I took a screenshot of the UK beside the US -

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Any thoughts on why maybe the UK is slightly ahead of the US?

Problem is the UK and US have the SAME way of electing representatives. The UK's is slightly better because there's no gerrymandering.

However, the Lib Dems and Labour got like 900 votes less than the Tories, but ended up with 150 seats less. That ain't "full democracy".

 

[frigidweirdo]

A country with a Monarchy has a King or Queen as it's head of State. A Republic has a President as it's head of State. A democracy relates to the people making laws/electing representatives to make laws, to have a vote etc..

And yet the head of state hardly matters.

The reality is that both countries have First Past The Post, which sucks, and both have reduced democracy because of it.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Looking at the link, looks like the UK has it's nose slightly infront of America's.

The link is clearly neither comprehensive nor all-inclusive.

And the perils of direct democracy are significant, where citizens’ rights are subject to the will of the people, not the rule of law.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Jesus. What a load of crap.

The Brexit debacle is another example of the perils of direct democracy – the idiocy of determining such an important issue via referendum.

 

[cnm]

And the perils of direct democracy are significant, where citizens’ rights are subject to the will of the people, not the rule of law.

The crap never stops.

 

[cnm]

A chart is meaningless unless the source is given

Unbelievable.

Oh. Right. Quite believable.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Being able to call someone the n* word is overrated.

Being subject to criminal prosecution for using such a word is reckless, irresponsible government excess and overreach – a blatant violation of the right to freedom of expression, no matter how wrong or reprehensible that expression might be.

 

[cnm]

The Brexit debacle is another example of the perils of direct democracy – the idiocy of determining such an important issue via referendum.

As though government through representatives in Parliament is a direct democracy.

 

[cnm]

Being subject to criminal prosecution for using such a word is reckless, irresponsible government excess and overreach – a blatant violation of the right to freedom of expression, no matter how wrong or reprehensible that expression might be.

You should quit while you're behind. Someone has filled you up with flagrant propaganda.

The Right to Freedom of Expression | British Institute of Human Rights​

Jul 29, 2021Freedom of expression does include the freedom to express unpopular or shocking ideas but the government can restrict this right if you encourage violence against other people or if you unlawfully discriminate against people. Unlawful discrimination is covered by Article 14 in our Human Rights Act; you can read about this right here.​

 

[cnm]

List of freedom indices - Wikipedia

Found it, did you?

 

[Blues Man]

You should quit while you're behind. Someone has filled you up with flagrant propaganda.

The Right to Freedom of Expression | British Institute of Human Rights​

Jul 29, 2021Freedom of expression does include the freedom to express unpopular or shocking ideas but the government can restrict this right if you encourage violence against other people or if you unlawfully discriminate against people. Unlawful discrimination is covered by Article 14 in our Human Rights Act; you can read about this right here.​

How British cops became the literal speech police

And why America isn't immune to this dystopian suppression.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

 

[cnm]

Republic vs. Democracy: What Is the Difference?

The main difference between a democracy and a republic is the extent to which citizens control the process of making laws.

www.thoughtco.com

In a democracy people know how to use dictionaries.

Well. Obviously not...

 

[Blues Man]

List of freedom indices - Wikipedia

Found it, did you?

Yes I didn'tt see the link the first time

But then again Wiki anything isn't a great source

and there are more than enough examples of how the UK is not as free as that questionable chart implies

 

[sparky]

~S~

 

[there4eyeM]

Being able to call someone the n* word is overrated.

Choosing to be offended doesn't rate. Freedoms have costs.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

America is not a democracy it's a Republic.

which is a form of democracy

 

[bigrebnc1775]

which is a form of democracy

A democracy is two wolves and one sheep debating over what's for lunch. The minority only have the rights the majority says they have.