Roe v. Wade getting overturned!!

[Captain Caveman]

Most women don't even know they are pregnant by 1-6 weeks. By the time they do know they are pregnant the baby has a heartbeat already

Well, if you have a regular monthly menstrual cycle, the earliest and most reliable sign of pregnancy is a missed period. Also, morning sickness symptoms usually start when you’re around 4-6 weeks pregnant. To my knowledge, women are usually around the 6 week mark when doing a pregnancy test, which was the case when we had our two boys.

So for 1-6 weeks to have the highest abortion rate, and how long does it take to get an abortion appointment, I find the 1-6 week stat very sketchy at best.

 

[Captain Caveman]

My wife had two miscarriages. We didn’t name and bury them. Flushed in toilet. Am I the father of two dead children? Should I morn on their flush dates?

Everyone is different, so yes/no/partly.

 

[beagle9]

Here’s the other issue. On the off-chance that the SCOTUS comes out in June with the decision to uphold Roe v Wade, we will know they did so under threats by progs to murder them, or their children.

And the entire system of having a SCOTUS will be gone. The leftists will have succeeded in destroying more of what made America great.

It's time for people to be prosecuted if that's the case. No more excuses to be used by them, it would be time. Like you say, once we lose our ability to righteously judge or to make judgements in courts as pertaining to our law's, then we are finished as a COUNTRY. Time to really get serious about upholding the court's decisions whenever rendered, and to protect the court's with the law's already on the book's just as it is laid out in our constitution.

 

[Stann]

That would be extremely foolish, and ludicrous.

No laws regulating abortion would essentially mean unrestricted abortion, at any point during a pregnancy.

Say, the woman decides her labor pains aren't worth it and decides to abort the child before it is imminently born. No. There need to be laws regulating abortion. Period.

Actually it's the only thing that would resolve this issue. Then maybe people would start minding their own damn business,

We tried that. It resulted in wackos deciding if two year olds were too much of a burden and should be executed.

WTG, human pregnancies only last 9 months, why are you talking about elephants.

 

[TemplarKormac]

You could have adopted more. You didn't.

Not your place to tell her how many children she should have, or if she should adop any. So many men taking down to a woman on this thread, it betrays literally everything liberals say they believe about women.

 

[Lisa558]

I don't believe in travel gods I believe in the real GOD the natural GOD of which we were are all one with. Sorry you haven't come to that realization. That's the whole reason we cannot make moral judgments against others. We are simply attacking ourselves. There's no logic in that.

So since you agree that we cannot make moral judgments against others, who are the liberals in Vermont and California to say what the conservatives in Mississippi and Alabama should have for their laws?

 

[Lisa558]

I better solution would be to say it's a medical issue between a woman and her doctor and forbid any laws regulating it.

But you’re ignoring the third party involved. Should a woman and her doctor decide it’s OK to abort a third-trimester baby, limb by limb?

Liberals always put in the “and her doctor” phrase to give the impression that this is a medical decision. It’s the majority of cases, it isn’t - it’s a form of late birth control.

The other phrase is “with her own body.” This skips over the fact that there is another body involved.

 

[Foolardi]

I do not believe the Women's Health Protection Act can pass in the Senate with only 50 votes. Reconciliation is only for budgets, spending and revenue. Sorry, you're gonna need 60.

The democrats always seem to come back with some kind
of new tactic.Like how about using a " carve out " to
make way for going around a Filibuster.
Anything to putz their noxious political will.
Reminiscent of the Paul Muni movie :
- Angel on my Shoulder - { 1946 }
Where the devil arranges for a deceased gangster to
return to earth as a well-respected judge.
To make up for his previous life.
If only that would work today.
If Only.

 

[Foolardi]

So since you agree that we cannot make moral judgments against others, who are the liberals in Vermont and California to say what the conservatives in Mississippi and Alabama should have for their laws?

Real simple solution.Let the States decide.If New Yorkers
care not a whit about rampant Crime run amuck and
humans being pushed onto subway tracks.Or the ever
increased cost of living in the Big Apple where taxes are
taken for granted.
As compared to places like Florida.Where instead of
dreary weather { lots rain and cloudy days where even
Pigeons are starting to take notice },there's healthy sunshine
and beaches and fresh air.
Plus many places for affordable retirement { think
- The Golden Girls - TV series.

 

[Foolardi]

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Amen!

The proven Liar has no place to run or hide.So why not
scream bloody murder.Americans know who and what she
is.A Lying fraud.Since when is being a skinny prick female
legislator who screeches out a maddening plea considered
*statesman like.Or Statesgalsy like.
Since when. ?

* how long before the drat left changes the definition.
A male political leader regarded as a disinterested
promoter of the public good.

 

[Lisa558]

The democrats always seem to come back with some kind
of new tactic.Like how about using a " carve out " to
make way for going around a Filibuster.
Anything to putz their noxious political will.
Reminiscent of the Paul Muni movie :
- Angel on my Shoulder - { 1946 }
Where the devil arranges for a deceased gangster to
return to earth as a well-respected judge.
To make up for his previous life.
If only that would work today.
If Only.

They’re trying to lump the right to kill your unborn baby whenever you feel like it as “Health Protection”?

 

[schmidlap]

we see where you people are mentally

We, the People of the United States, overwhelmingly support the established law of half a century regarding a woman's reproductive freedom, and oppose the authoritarians who would retrogress, the State arrogating that freedom and dictating to them, antithetical to the progress that has occurred in advanced, democratic nations.

• CNN/SSRS: 66% said they do not support overturning Roe, while 34% did.
• The Pew Research Center: Just 8% said abortion should be illegal in all cases, no exceptions. Broadening it out, roughly 37% said it should be illegal in most or all cases. But even among that group, there are sizable portions that said it should be legal in if the pregnancy threatens the life or health of the mother (46%) or if it is the result of a rape (36%).
• Monmouth University: Just 11% said abortion should always be illegal. Another quarter said it should be illegal with exceptions for rape, incest or to save the life of the mother.
• YouGov: 24% said Roe should be overturned, while 55% said it should not.
• Fox News: 27% said it should be overturned; 63% said no.
• ABC News/Washington Post: 28% said Roe should be overturned, 54% said it should be upheld. (Just 16% said abortion should be illegal in all circumstances.)
• Gallup: 19% said abortion should be illegal in all circumstances; 48% said it should be legal only under certain circumstances; 32% said it should be legal in all circumstances. And 47% said abortion is morally acceptable, the highest ever recorded in two decades of Gallup asking the question. (46% said it is not morally acceptable.)

Those who crave Big Government intrusion in the matter wish to emulate Egypt, Iran, Honduras, and El Salvador.

 

[Flash]

Well, if you have a regular monthly menstrual cycle, the earliest and most reliable sign of pregnancy is a missed period. Also, morning sickness symptoms usually start when you’re around 4-6 weeks pregnant. To my knowledge, women are usually around the 6 week mark when doing a pregnancy test, which was the case when we had our two boys.

So for 1-6 weeks to have the highest abortion rate, and how long does it take to get an abortion appointment, I find the 1-6 week stat very sketchy at best.

That histogram from Mother Jones (LOL) that the stupid Moon Bat posted and supposedly from the CDC is a lie.

Of course we caught the CDC lying about COVID so it is not surprising they would lie about abortions.

The fact is that 96% of all abortions are for the sake of convenience and that is despicable. A child should not be murdered because it might be an inconvenience to the mother. Murder as a method of birth control is absolutely unacceptable.

 

[Flash]

We, the People of the United States, overwhelmingly support the established law of half a century regarding a woman's reproductive freedom, and oppose the authoritarians who would retrogress, the State arrogating that freedom and dictating to them, antithetical to the progress that has occurred in advanced, democratic nations.

• CNN/SSRS: 66% said they do not support overturning Roe, while 34% did.
• The Pew Research Center: Just 8% said abortion should be illegal in all cases, no exceptions. Broadening it out, roughly 37% said it should be illegal in most or all cases. But even among that group, there are sizable portions that said it should be legal in if the pregnancy threatens the life or health of the mother (46%) or if it is the result of a rape (36%).
• Monmouth University: Just 11% said abortion should always be illegal. Another quarter said it should be illegal with exceptions for rape, incest or to save the life of the mother.
• YouGov: 24% said Roe should be overturned, while 55% said it should not.
• Fox News: 27% said it should be overturned; 63% said no.
• ABC News/Washington Post: 28% said Roe should be overturned, 54% said it should be upheld. (Just 16% said abortion should be illegal in all circumstances.)
• Gallup: 19% said abortion should be illegal in all circumstances; 48% said it should be legal only under certain circumstances; 32% said it should be legal in all circumstances. And 47% said abortion is morally acceptable, the highest ever recorded in two decades of Gallup asking the question. (46% said it is not morally acceptable.)

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Those who crave Big Government intrusion in the matter wish to emulate Egypt, Iran, Honduras, and El Salvador.

Source - "General Social Survey 2021". LOL

For the rest of that stupid shit you posted how about telling us who was polled and what questions were they asked.

If the majority of Americans believe in killing children for birth control then this a country that would make the Nazis proud.

 

[schmidlap]

Source - "General Social Survey 2021". LOL

Source: All public surveys I can find.

If you believe that Americans would rather retrogress, surrender extant freedoms to the State, and emulate Egypt, Iran, Honduras, and El Salvador, you'll have to cite your surveys rather than spew your contempt for freedom-loving Americans.

 

[eagle1462010]

::Issues4Life Foundation | Judgment At Nuremberg

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On Monday, January 22nd, 1973 the United States Supreme Court decided Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 and simultaneously with a companion case, Doe v. Bolton regarding the issue of abortion. The Court ruled 7–2 that a right to privacy "somewhere" under the due process clause of the 14th Amendment extended to a woman's decision to have an abortion, but that this right must be balanced against the state's two (2) legitimate interests in regulating abortions and protecting women's health and ultimately the protection the potentiality of human life. Importantly, the United States Supreme Court never declared abortion itself to be a constitutional right. Rather, the Supreme Court said: "We need not resolve the difficult question of when life begins … the judiciary at this point in the development of man's knowledge, is not in a position to speculate as to the answer." Then, in the very text of the Roe v. Wade decision, the High Court made a key admission:

"The appellee and certain amici argue that the fetus is a "person" within the language and meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment. In support of this, they outline at length and in detail the well-known facts of fetal development. If this suggestion of personhood is established, the appellant's case, of course, collapses, [410 U.S. 113, 157] for the fetus' right to life would then be guaranteed specifically by the Amendment."1

In my opinion, the United States Supreme Court needed to "resolve the difficult question of when life begins … " before rendering judgment on the death of the only product of a human male and a human female, that is a human being. Below are clips from the 1961 movie Judgment at Nuremburg. In light of the fact that not one (1) of the seven (7) Supreme Court justices that made up the majority for 1973 Roe v. Wade decision are alive today, you can be the judge. Top

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To summarize and to repeat:

1. A state criminal abortion statute of the current Texas type, that excepts from criminality only a life-saving procedure on behalf of the mother, without regard to pregnancy stage and without recognition of the other interests involved, is violative of the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.

(a) For the stage prior to approximately the end of the first trimester, the abortion decision and its effectuation must be left to the medical judgment of the pregnant woman's attending physician.

(b) For the stage subsequent to approximately the end of the first trimester, the State, in promoting its interest in the health of the mother, may, if it chooses, regulate the abortion procedure in ways that are reasonably related to maternal health.

(c) For the stage subsequent to viability, the State in promoting its interest in the potentiality of human life [410 U.S. 113, 165] may, if it chooses, regulate, and even proscribe, abortion except where it is necessary, in appropriate medical judgment, for the preservation of the life or health of the mother.

2. The State may define the term "physician," as it has been employed in the preceding paragraphs of this Part XI of this opinion, to mean only a physician currently licensed by the State, and may proscribe any abortion by a person who is not a physician as so defined.

In Doe v. Bolton, post, p. 179, procedural requirements contained in one of the modern abortion statutes are considered. That opinion and this one, of course, are to be read together. 67

This holding, we feel, is consistent with the relative weights of the respective interests involved, with the lessons and examples of medical and legal history, with the lenity of the common law, and with the demands of the profound problems of the present day. The decision leaves the State free to place increasing restrictions on abortion as the period of pregnancy lengthens, so long as those restrictions are tailored to the recognized state interests. The decision vindicates the right of the physician to administer medical treatment according to his professional judgment up to the points where important [410 U.S. 113, 166] state interests provide compelling justifications for intervention. Up to those points, the abortion decision in all its aspects is inherently, and primarily, a medical decision, and basic responsibility for it must rest with the physician. If an individual practitioner abuses the privilege of exercising proper medical judgment, the usual remedies, judicial and intra-professional, are available.

 

[eagle1462010]

What’s The Earliest A Baby Can Be Born And Survive?

Perhaps you’re facing a high-risk pregnancy, or you’re pregnant after a previous loss, and now you’re wondering: 'What is the

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At what week in pregnancy can a baby survive outside the womb?​

The earliest a baby has been born and survived is 21 weeks and 5 days. Two premature babies hold the record for this.

Surprisingly, the first record holder was born in 1987, a time when the medical care of premature babies (neonatology) was a very new field.

However, this is well before the accepted age of viability. Usually, the earliest a baby can survive is about 22 weeks gestation. The age of viability is 24 weeks.

At 22 weeks, there’s a 0-10% chance of survival; at 24 weeks the survival rate is 40-70%.

U.S. Abortion Statistics

Facts and figures relating to the frequency of abortion in the United States.

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WHEN DO ABORTIONS OCCUR?​

• In 2019, 79% of all U.S. abortions occurred prior to the 10th week of gestation; 93% occurred prior to 14 weeks’ gestation (CDC).
• Percentage of 2019 Reported Abortions by Weeks of Gestation* (CDC):
  

  ≤6 wks	7-9 wks	10-13 wks	14-15 wks	16-17 wks	18-20 wks	≥21 wks
  42.9%	36.4%	13.4%	2.9%	1.7%	1.6%	1.0%

  *Gestational weeks are measured from the first day of the woman's last menstruation and not from the day of conception. Though it does not provide an accurate fetal age (which is roughly 2 weeks less than the gestational age), it is the simplest way for an OB/GYN to age a pregnancy since the day of conception is often not known. Hence, if an abortion occurs at 8 weeks gestation, it is actually aborting a 6 week embryo. The images on our Prenatal Development and Abortion Pictures pages are more precisely captioned with fetal ages in accordance with standard teaching texts on prenatal development.

 

[eagle1462010]

Roe V Wade wasn't set in stone as much as the left says it does.............It WAS NEVER A BLANKET ABORTION RIGHT.........It shot down the Texas Law which was a crime at CONCEPTION. In it's very brief it said that States have the RIGHT TO PASS LAWS............based on VIABILITY of the Fetus. Which it stated as 24 weeks.

It NEVER ANSWERED THE QUESTION of when LIFE BEGINS..............It did what SCOTUS ALWAYS DOES..........Kicked the can down the road on that question and the CAN IS HERE NOW.

Mississippi Law states 15 weeks ...........After that via the documents I've shown only 4.3% are affected by that law.

 

[eagle1462010]

 

[eagle1462010]

• Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973) A person may choose to have an abortion until a fetus becomes viable, based on the right to privacy contained in the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. Viability means the ability to live outside the womb, which usually happens between 24 and 28 weeks after conception.

Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973)

A person may choose to have an abortion until a fetus becomes viable, based on the right to privacy contained in the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. Viability means the ability to live outside the womb, which usually happens between 24 and 28 weeks after conception.

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(c) For the stage subsequent to viability the State, in promoting its interest in the potentiality of human life, may, if it chooses, regulate, and even proscribe, abortion except where necessary, in appropriate medical judgment, for the preservation of the life or health of the mother. Pp. 163-164; 164-165.


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