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It’s right there in the decision:Mississippi imposed the ban.
Not Dobbs. or the court.
America’s 18th-century Christian nationalists wanted the state to regulate almost every aspect of life, from education to commerce to religion but the superstitions lost to our founding generation and principles of rational theism.One, ironically, is that the Wits wrote too much, in too much detail, about how Christian America should look. As a result, it’s obvious that their vision does not easily fit with that of today’s Christian nationalists. America’s 18th-century Christian nationalists, for example, were interested in God and theologizing. Today’s Christian nationalists prefer Jesus and evangelizing. America’s 18th-century Christian nationalists wanted the state to regulate almost every aspect of life, from education to commerce to religion. Today’s Christian nationalists depend politically on an alliance with anti-statist capitalists; indeed, this in some ways odd alliance forms the basis of modern conservatism.
Second, in the story of American national history, America’s 18th-century Christian nationalists are losers. They lost a battle for political control of the United States to the deists Jefferson and Madison, and to the rest of the Southern planters, whom they despised. In December 1814 and January 1815, during the War of 1812, these early Christian nationalists’ alienation culminated in the Hartford Convention, in which a group of their close allies, state and federal officeholders from Connecticut and Massachusetts, met and issued a series of demands. Their most radical demand? They wanted the three-fifths clause, which in effect gave Southern planters 66 votes for every 100 slaves they owned, banished from the U.S. Constitution. If their demands were not met, the Hartford Convention threatened to secede from the United States. The threat misjudged the political climate, however, and helped destroy the Federalist Party that served their political vehicle.
Jefferson exulted at the Hartford Convention’s miscalculation — their “mortification,” he called it. Under any other government, he wrote, “their treasons would have been punished by the halter,” that is by execution. Hartford, to Jefferson, illustrated the New Englanders’ “religious and political tyranny.” He compared them to prostitutes, “bawds,” who found in religion “a refuge from the despair of their loathsome vices.” Strong words, from one of America’s founders, against the first American patriots, and the country’s original Christian nationalists.
Your statement is false.Dobbs directly imposed a 15 week ban for Mississippi and any ban any state wants to impose.
Its right there in your quote:It’s right there in the decision:
Your statement is false.the [ Mississippi ] statute prohibits abortion “
No. Mississippi “imposed” no ban on any Mississippian until the Dobbs decision “imposed” it.Your statement is false.
Mississippi imposed the ban.
Not Dobbs. or the court.
If Dobbs went against Mississippi, would Mississippi have imposed the ban?Your statement is false.
Mississippi imposed the ban.
Not Dobbs. or the court.
the [ Mississippi ] statute prohibits abortion “No. Mississippi “imposed” no ban on any Mississippianuntil the Dobbs decision “imposed” it.
NotfooledbyW said: Dobbs ruled in favor of the thirteen centuries of allegedly successful White European Christian behavior that the petitioners to the court via Dobbs were seeking to impose on modern American women. nf.23.11.09 #11,823Mississippi imposed the ban.
Not Dobbs. or the court.
A State may properly assert important interests in safeguarding health, maintaining medical standards, and in protecting potential life. At some point in pregnancy, these respective interests become sufficiently compelling to sustain regulation of the factors that govern the abortion decision. ... We, therefore, conclude that the right of personal privacy includes the abortion decision, but that this right is not unqualified and must be considered against important state interests in regulation.What are the secular arguments for forcing full term gestation on women against their will?
the [ Mississippi ] statute prohibits abortionNotfooledbyW said: Dobbs ruled in favor of the thirteen centuries...
The truth is Mississippi imposed no ban if Dobbs did not impose it.the [ Mississippi ] statute prohibits abortion
Mississippi imposed the ban.
Not Dobbs. or the court.
the [ Mississippi ] statute prohibits abortionThe truth is Mississippi imposed no ban if Dobbs did not impose it.
What good is a prohibition if you cannot impose it on the people you want to control.the [ Mississippi ] statute prohibits abortion
Mississippi imposed the ban.
Not Dobbs. or the court.
Your statement is false.Dobbs imposed a fifteen week abortion ban in Mississippi.
Mississippi imposed the ban
Your statement is false.Dobbs removed a right to terminate one’s own pregnancy through access to safe legal abortion.
