So the dude should pay 50%, and the woman 50%. They‘re about $2 each, so dude can pay a buck and woman can pay a buck. Big whoop.why not free? after all, the dude involved is 1/2 responsible for that.
uh-huh ... it always boils down to money.
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So the dude should pay 50%, and the woman 50%. They‘re about $2 each, so dude can pay a buck and woman can pay a buck. Big whoop.why not free? after all, the dude involved is 1/2 responsible for that.
uh-huh ... it always boils down to money.
i know exactly what i said. i expanded & said a FERTILISED egg is not a person. are you saying as soon as conception occurs - WHAM! full personhood occurs?
aw - 'cause THAT part of the equation doesn'y fit into yer narrative? too bad - it's ALL related. you wanna force a female into being an incubating host, but not deal with the results once that 'life' progresses into a post born baby?
typical.
I also don’t like that poster’s use of the term “host,” as if the fetus is a parasite. These are typical ways the left downplays what is going on here.First of all, surgical abortion doesn’t take place immediately after conception. As someone already told you, a woman doesn’t even know she’s pregnant at that time.
Secondly, once the egg is fertilized you no longer have an egg. So to continue to use the word egg is deceptive, or misleading at best. Basic biology, when conception occurs, you have a brand new individual human being. That is a scientific fact, whether you like it or not. And since a person is a living human being, then yes once conception occurs, you have a new person, in the earliest stages of development.
What is oh so typical is the red herrings that you guys try to use as arguments, when they’re not arguments. If you want to talk about those things, feel free to start a new thread.
I’m the one saying a compromise is.:
1) Up to 12 - 16 weeks in all states.
2) Planned Parenthood fund for women who delayed their choice after that 4 month time period to bus to a neighboring state
And for that, I‘ve been called a right wing nut job. What I see is that if you don’t agree with the left that abortion should be freely available, whenever and wherever you want it, regardless of pain and suffering to the fetus, you‘re considered a right wing nut job.
the 50 year old law should remain as is. if it's overturned, nothing else will mobilize people more in going to the polls & since all indications point to the vast majority of americans want roe v wade to remain as is - it won't be good for those that want it gone.
Exactly! They purposefully use dehumanizing and disparaging words, it‘s how they justify their position. The marketing people who come up with these euphemisms, even the term “pro-choice” itself, understand full well that words are powerful and have the ability to influence people.I also don’t like that poster’s use of the term “host,” as if the fetus is a parasite. These are typical ways the left downplays what is going on here.
The other thing is their insistence of saying “it’s a woman’s right to decide what to do with her own body,” skating right over the fact that another life is at stake. It’s not only HER body.Exactly! They purposefully use dehumanizing and disparaging words, it‘s how they justify their position. The marketing people who come up with these euphemisms, even the term “pro-choice” itself, understand full well that words are powerful and have the ability to influence people.
Thankfully many people can see through that though.
The other thing is their insistence of saying “it’s a woman’s right to decide what to do with her own body,” skating right over the fact that another life is at stake. It’s not only HER body.
Full disclosure: I had a chin implant 20 years ago. My body, my choice.
She’s not forced to care for the child. She can give it up for adoption If she dragged her feet about making a decision and lost the window of opportunity where abortion is allowed. Is she not held responsible for ANYTHING? using birth control? deciding early on to abort?If the girl is forced by our government to carry her pregnancy, then the father of their child should be forced to pay for his child until the child is 18, and pay all the medical costs for labor and delivery.
Easy peasy DNA tests can determine the father.
She's forced to go through 9 months of pregnancy, and the next 18 years rearing their child, and he should be forced to pay for his child's survival until an adult by government as well.
Then maybe the potential fathers out there will think twice before unzipping their unprotected, one eyed trouser worm??
Disagree, totally. He, the father, also must be held responsible, if the mother rears the child.She’s not forced to care for the child. She can give it up for adoption If she dragged her feet about making a decision and lost the window of opportunity where abortion is allowed. Is she not held responsible for ANYTHING? using birth control? deciding early on to abort?
You call it being forced to carry a pregnancy, and I call it not be allowed to abort a viable, or near-viable fetus, and cause pain and suffering as its life is wiped out by its mother.
I never said that if the father shouldn’t be responsible if she decides to keep the child. We already have child support laws. You’re acting as if you thought up something new.Disagree, totally. He, the father, also must be held responsible, if the mother rears the child.
Or goes 9 months carrying the child, even if they give up the child, he should in the very least, pay for half the labor and delivery cost.
Without him, there would be no child Of his to discuss.
If the girl is forced by our government to carry her pregnancy, then the father of their child should be forced to pay for his child until the child is 18, and pay all the medical costs for labor and delivery.
Easy peasy DNA tests can determine the father.
She's forced to go through 9 months of pregnancy, and the next 18 years rearing their child, and he should be forced to pay for his child's survival until an adult by government as well.
Then maybe the potential fathers out there will think twice before unzipping their unprotected, one eyed trouser worm??
No she doesn't, you chose to give her your swimmers....you had the power to stop from impregnating...you chose not to protect yourself, from becoming a parent, just like she did....??No we won’t.
Thats one area where a woman holds all the power.
No she doesn't, you chose to give her your swimmers....you chose not to protect yourself, from becoming a parent, just like she did....??
Why would a woman not want a man to use a condom, knowing it can prevent pregnancy in 98% of instances? Combined with another 98% method she uses, it’s practically foolproof.I‘m not disagreeing with you, I’m only suggesting that men are more malleable if a woman does not want him to use a condom. Unfortunately, risk can be part of the draw….
Why would a woman not want a man to use a condom, knowing it can prevent pregnancy in 98% of instances? Combined with another 98% method she uses, it’s practically foolproof.
I‘d say if a woman tells the man NOT to wear a condom, and then gets pregnant, she’s got some nerve - and so do all the people supporting her - to insist she can have an abortion whenever and wherever she wants.
Why would a woman not want a man to use a condom, knowing it can prevent pregnancy in 98% of instances? Combined with another 98% method she uses, it’s practically foolproof.
I‘d say if a woman tells the man NOT to wear a condom, and then gets pregnant, she’s got some nerve - and so do all the people supporting her - to insist she can have an abortion whenever and wherever she wants.
I know it happens. I once had unprotected sex myself. ONCE.My point is that people do stupid things in the heat of the moment. Granted, neither party has to follow thru when one or the other eschews a condom. However, the reality is that sexual human beings can do impulsive things and unfortunately risky sex is one of them. I’m not condoning or supporting it, but acknowledging it.