Plasmaball
Gold Member
- Sep 9, 2010
- 20,629
- 2,194
- 175
suck that deadman's dick frank!
Bow for your messiah!
Bow for your messiah!
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
Unlock unbeatable offers today. Shop here: https://amzn.to/4cEkqYs 🎁
Reagan spanked Gorby and the USSR so badly all the American Left has is insults.
Good Job, Ronny!
We have received this progressive tax direct from Karl Marx, who designed it as the prime essential of a socialist state.”
But Nancy did dress well.
I was reading this opinion article:
Ronald Reagan's warning on progressive taxes - Conservative News
And it put me onto this speech by Ronald Reagan, given in 1961 while Reagan was still an actor:
Encroaching Control - Reagan Speeches
It is genuinely fascinating how Mr. Reagan, using only common sense and logic (one presumes, at least, that he was not a prophet in the true sense, and delivering directives straight from the Almighty, although I could be wrong about that), so accurately predicted what came to pass in our country. Leftists today are so busy framing the arguments as though the current state of things has ALWAYS pertained that most people forget that there was once an argument about implementing the programs the left takes for granted now as the basis for the NEW programs they want. And if people don't remember the argument, then they obviously don't remember that the left was WRONG.
That's always the problem with arguing with the left: their attention span is so damned short that by the time they've been proven wrong, they've conveniently forgotten that the debate was even happening.
Not too long ago, Norman Thomas, six times a candidate for president on the Socialist Party ticket, commented that the American people would never knowingly vote for socialism but that under the name of liberalism, they would adopt every fragment of the socialist program.
Traditionally, one of the easiest first steps in imposing socialism on a people has been government-paid medicine. It is the easiest to present as a humanitarian project. No one wants to oppose care for the sick.
Mind you, this was four years before Medicare was implemented. (Yes, I know, you lefties thought Medicare was established with the signing of the Constitution, but it actually wasn't.)
It is now proposed that all people of Social Security age be given government paid medical and hospital care, said Reagan. Once again, emergency is invoked, and we are given a picture of millions of senior citizens desperately needing medical care and unable to finance it. In all the emotional presentation, the backers of this program seem strangely reluctant to face the facts.
As near as can be determined, he said, less than 10 percent of our senior citizens require aid in meeting their medical needs.
Reagan pointed out that this 10% of senior citizens was being used to force ALL seniors into a compulsory healthcare program, whether they needed - or wanted - it or not.
Why? Well, ex-Congressman (Aime) Forand provides the answer. He says, If we can only break through and get our foot in the door, then we can expand the program after that.
As we know now, that's exactly what happened. Medicare became the law of the land, with leftists pooh-poohing warnings like Reagan's as "hyperbole". And as we also know, Reagan and the other naysayers were correct, and the leftists were WRONG: senior citizens did NOT get to keep their health insurance if they already had it. And now, here we are with Obamacare, and it's the same damned argument all over again, and the left has blissfully forgotten that they already used this arguments before, were WRONG then, and will be wrong this time.
Reagan applied the same prophesying to Social Security (No, leftists, Social Security has NOT been the natural order of things since Cro-Magnon Man), predicting that the program would grow and grow and become so monstrous that eventually, younger Americans would end up being taxed just to cover its deficits, with no hope of EVER seeing any return on that money themselves. Sound familiar to anyone else?
While he was at it, Reagan took a prophetic swipe at the progressive tax, as well, pointing out that there were already handpicked leftist economists attempting to redefine as "loopholes" legitimate deductions such as property taxes and charitable deductions. In 1961, that redefinition was considered preposterous. Now, in 2012, we have a President poised to make it cold, hard reality.
Ronald Reagan? That fellow that cut down all the trees in his yard cause he said communists were hiding behind them?
We went from a creditor nation under Reagan to a debtor one.
i knew he had alzheimer's, but i didn't realize it was early onset.
sad
Actually, he DID do it all by himself. I don't know if you were around then, or paying attention if you were, but the Democrats fought Reagan at every turn. His popularity and effectiveness made the liberals crazy, and their efforts to make him fail drove them to do some very unpatriotic things (like side with the Soviets in arms negotiations). I love how the Dems now try to claim that the defeat of the Soviet empire was a bi-partisan effort. Nothing could be further from the truth.yes, Ronny Raygun did it all by himself.
Ronald Reagan - The last "real" President of The United States.
We went from a creditor nation under Reagan to a debtor one.
You got something to back this up? This nation has been in debt more than it has not been in debt and was in debt under Carter, under Slick and, now under Obama. Give us some more of your stories. There's barely a time this nation has NOT been in debt, fibber.
We went from a creditor nation under Reagan to a debtor one.
You got something to back this up? This nation has been in debt more than it has not been in debt and was in debt under Carter, under Slick and, now under Obama. Give us some more of your stories. There's barely a time this nation has NOT been in debt, fibber.
Before Ronald Reagan, debt wasn't even part of our lexicon.
Where did our debt come from? When did massive debt become part of the American economy?
Ronbo Reagan switched the federal government from what he critically called, a “tax and spend” policy, to a “borrow and spend” policy, where the government continued its heavy spending, but used borrowed money instead of tax revenue to pay the bills.
The results were catastrophic. Although it had taken the United States more than 200 years to accumulate the first $1 trillion of national debt, it took only five years under Reagan to add the second one trillion dollars to the debt. By the end of the 12 years of the Reagan-Bush administrations, the national debt had quadrupled to $4 trillion!
And where was all this angst and concern about debt from conservatives when Bush and Republicans controlled the White House and both houses of Congress for almost a decade??? When Bush was starting a 3 trillion dollar war of ideology in Iraq, there was not a PEEP from you right wingers, just cheers and 'bring 'em on'... And where was this less government mantra? You right wingers LOVED BIG government and government intervention into people lives... the Patriot Act, trashing habeas corpus, dismissing the Geneva Conventions and the US War Crimes Act.
And what was the concern in the Bush administration about debt and deficits? NONE...Bush's solution was to eliminate the voices of concern.
Paul O'Neill was fired from his job as George Bush's Treasury Secretary for disagreeing too many times with the president's policy on tax cuts.
The president had promised to cut taxes, and he did. Within six months of taking office, he pushed a trillion dollars worth of tax cuts through Congress.
But O'Neill thought it should have been the end. After 9/11 and the war in Afghanistan, the budget deficit was growing. So at a meeting with the vice president after the mid-term elections in 2002, O'Neill argued against a second round of tax cuts.
"Cheney, at this moment, showed his hand. He said to O'Neill: 'You know, Paul, Reagan proved that deficits don't matter. We won the mid-term elections, this is our due.' … O'Neill was speechless."
"It was not just about not wanting the tax cut. It was about how to use the nation's resources to improve the condition of our society," says O'Neill. "And I thought the weight of working on Social Security and fundamental tax reform was a lot more important than a tax reduction."
Actually, he DID do it all by himself. I don't know if you were around then, or paying attention if you were, but the Democrats fought Reagan at every turn. His popularity and effectiveness made the liberals crazy, and their efforts to make him fail drove them to do some very unpatriotic things (like side with the Soviets in arms negotiations). I love how the Dems now try to claim that the defeat of the Soviet empire was a bi-partisan effort. Nothing could be further from the truth.yes, Ronny Raygun did it all by himself.
You got something to back this up? This nation has been in debt more than it has not been in debt and was in debt under Carter, under Slick and, now under Obama. Give us some more of your stories. There's barely a time this nation has NOT been in debt, fibber.
Before Ronald Reagan, debt wasn't even part of our lexicon.
Really? Why don't you try posting a chart that goes a little farther back in time?
Before Ronald Reagan, debt wasn't even part of our lexicon.
Really? Why don't you try posting a chart that goes a little farther back in time?
My chart goes back to 1940, before WWII.
FDR, and succeeding presidents paid down the debt accrued by the Great Depression, WWII and any other government spending you want to post a chart for...UNTIL Reagan.
Really? Why don't you try posting a chart that goes a little farther back in time?
My chart goes back to 1940, before WWII.
FDR, and succeeding presidents paid down the debt accrued by the Great Depression, WWII and any other government spending you want to post a chart for...UNTIL Reagan.
Oh, well big fucking whoop! FDR and succeeding presidents also increased debt during periods of their presidency as well. Furthermore, according to your chart, you're full of shit and FDR didn't pay squat down. He was dead by that time...dipshit. Truman would have been the one paying it down. According to the chart you posted, the debt didn't start going down until 1946...dumbass!