Russia will want revenge after losing the war, this may happen in 10 years – Ukraine's Defence Intellige

No i have not served, members of my family have from WW1 and up to modern times, the point is who did you serve? looking at the US since WW2 there has not been a war worth fighting it's been a long history of one blood soaked Imperialist adventure after another.
The War in Korea was certainly worth fighting. We preserved the existence of South Korea, which is certainly a better country than North Korea, which started the war by attacking South Korea.

The War in the Gulf started when Iraq invaded Kuwait.

The invasion of Afghanistan happened because Afghanistan refused to extradite Osama bin Laden, who planned 9/11.
 
No i have not served, members of my family have from WW1 and up to modern times, the point is who did you serve? looking at the US since WW2 there has not been a war worth fighting it's been a long history of one blood soaked Imperialist adventure after another.
You continue to try to use words you clearly don't understand.

Imperialism

a policy of extending a country's power and influence through diplomacy or military force.


When the US goes to war, it is to solve a particular problem, and when that problem, and when that problem is solved, the US leaves. When Russia goes to war, regardless of the pretext, it stays and becomes the government of that country. Even a dull witted ignorant bigot like yourself ought to be able to understand the difference.
 
Thought so too ashamed, and Russia never intended taking Ukraine, they had 150k men involved, they would have deployed a million if they intended taking Ukraine and levelled Kiev, if anything they have been too soft, Putin is a moderate there are those in Russia who would go full on Blitzkrieg shock and awe, remember that?
Try that psyops bs on someone else. Meaningless drivel.

Russian shock and awe lol
 
You continue to try to use words you clearly don't understand.

Imperialism

a policy of extending a country's power and influence through diplomacy or military force.


When the US goes to war, it is to solve a particular problem, and when that problem, and when that problem is solved, the US leaves. When Russia goes to war, regardless of the pretext, it stays and becomes the government of that country. Even a dull witted ignorant bigot like yourself ought to be able to understand the difference.
We should also mention that the countries in NATO had democratic governments, and choose to join. The countries in the Warsaw Pact did not want to be part of it. When the Warsaw pact collapsed those countries developed democratic governments. Most of them choose to join NATO.

Putin and other Russians who support the invasion of Ukraine should have learned that occupying countries that do not want to be occupied is more trouble than it is worth.
 
We should also mention that the countries in NATO had democratic governments, and choose to join. The countries in the Warsaw Pact did not want to be part of it. When the Warsaw pact collapsed those countries developed democratic governments. Most of them choose to join NATO.

Putin and other Russians who support the invasion of Ukraine should have learned that occupying countries that do not want to be occupied is more trouble than it is worth.
The people didn't choose to join anything, the Governments did, there was no referendums, Democracies Lol! well it' about time they started acting like it instead of a third Reich tribute act.
 
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The people didn't choose to join anything, the Governments did, there was no referendoms, Democracies Lol! well it' about time they started acting like it instead of a third Reich tribute act.
Decisions to join NATO were made by elected officials. There is no evidence that these decisions were ever unpopular with the electorates.
 
You continue to try to use words you clearly don't understand.

Imperialism

a policy of extending a country's power and influence through diplomacy or military force.


When the US goes to war, it is to solve a particular problem, and when that problem, and when that problem is solved, the US leaves. When Russia goes to war, regardless of the pretext, it stays and becomes the government of that country. Even a dull witted ignorant bigot like yourself ought to be able to understand the difference.
They cause most of the problems and they never leave until thrown out, they occupy part of Syria and Serbia as we speak, they install puppets to do their bidding, the old European Colonialists work the same way, well the French are being thrown out of Africa where they have been leaches for years, the fact is the US is a School Bully taking other kids dinner money, now there are some new kids in School who have punched the bully in the mouth.
 
Well something that is so important should have been put to a referendum, Nato is past it's sell by date by decades.
If NATO is past its sell date, why is this true:

NATO further expanded after the Cold War, adding the Czech Republic, Hungary and Poland (1999), Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, and Slovenia (2004), Albania and Croatia (2009), Montenegro (2017), North Macedonia (2020), and Finland (2023).[4] Of the territories and members added between 1990 and 2023, all were either formerly part of the Warsaw Pact (including the formerly Soviet Baltic states) or territories of the former Yugoslavia except for Finland. No countries have left NATO since its founding.

Currently, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization now covers a total area of 27,131,087 km2 (10,475,371 sq mi), since the accession of Finland on 4 April 2023.

Membership aspirations[edit]​

As of April 2023, four additional states have formally informed NATO of their membership aspirations: Bosnia and Herzegovina, Georgia, Sweden and Ukraine.[3]
Member states of NATO - Wikipedia.

There is no evidence that majorities of voters in any NATO countries want to leave. Russian aggression against Ukraine has made NATO move popular.
 
If NATO is past its sell date, why is this true:

NATO further expanded after the Cold War, adding the Czech Republic, Hungary and Poland (1999), Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, and Slovenia (2004), Albania and Croatia (2009), Montenegro (2017), North Macedonia (2020), and Finland (2023).[4] Of the territories and members added between 1990 and 2023, all were either formerly part of the Warsaw Pact (including the formerly Soviet Baltic states) or territories of the former Yugoslavia except for Finland. No countries have left NATO since its founding.

Currently, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization now covers a total area of 27,131,087 km2 (10,475,371 sq mi), since the accession of Finland on 4 April 2023.

Membership aspirations[edit]​

As of April 2023, four additional states have formally informed NATO of their membership aspirations: Bosnia and Herzegovina, Georgia, Sweden and Ukraine.[3]
Member states of NATO - Wikipedia.

There is no evidence that majorities of voters in any NATO countries want to leave. Russian aggression against Ukraine has made NATO move popular.
All after James Baker told Gorbachev if Russia took the wall down in Berlin and moved their troops out Nato would not move one inch east, we know he said it because he wrote about it in his book, the fact is the US have been breaking agreements since they sat down with Sitting Bull before they murdered him, also if you look at most of those Countries on that list, they also collaborated with Hitler, some never learn from History.
 
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All after James Baker told Gorbachev if Russia took the wall down in Berlin and moved their troops out Nato would not move one inch east, we know he said it because he wrote about it in his book, the fact is the US have been breaking agreements since they sat down with Sitting Bull before they murdered him, also if you look at most of those Countries on that list, they also collaborated with Hitler, ome never learn from History.
James Baker had no right to speak for the electorates of Eastern Europe. They choose to join NATO. If you can't figure out why, look at what Russia is doing to Ukraine. If Ukraine had been a member of NATO before the invasion, the Russian invasion would have been stopped at the border, with enormous loss of Russian lives.

The reason some Eastern European countries initially supported the Nazis was because they knew how evil the Soviet Union was.
 
James Baker had no right to speak for the electorates of Eastern Europe. They choose to join NATO. If you can't figure out why, look at what Russia is doing to Ukraine. If Ukraine had been a member of NATO before the invasion, the Russian invasion would have been stopped at the border, with enormous loss of Russian lives.

The reason some Eastern European countries initially supported the Nazis was because they knew how evil the Soviet Union was.
Please behave yourself, the US IS Nato, the fact is they can't be trusted, not sure if you are naive or down right stupid.
 
Please behave yourself, the US IS Nato, the fact is they can't be trusted, not sure if you are naive or down right stupid.
NATO is the United States and all the other countries who choose to join, and all the countries who still want to join.

How many countries choose to join the Warsaw Pact?
 
They cause most of the problems and they never leave until thrown out, they occupy part of Syria and Serbia as we speak, they install puppets to do their bidding, the old European Colonialists work the same way, well the French are being thrown out of Africa where they have been leaches for years, the fact is the US is a School Bully taking other kids dinner money, now there are some new kids in School who have punched the bully in the mouth.
Still more of your ignorant bullshit. The US doesn't stay after the problem has been solved and while the European colonialists used to behave the way Russia is behaving, only Russia is an imperialist and colonialist power now. Here you are supporting Russia doing everything you claim to hate about the old European colonialists. Someday you might want to take some off from typing to do some thinkiing.
 
You continue to try to use words you clearly don't understand.

Imperialism

a policy of extending a country's power and influence through diplomacy or military force.


When the US goes to war, it is to solve a particular problem, and when that problem, and when that problem is solved, the US leaves. When Russia goes to war, regardless of the pretext, it stays and becomes the government of that country. Even a dull witted ignorant bigot like yourself ought to be able to understand the difference.
You're are a lying imbecile - you were already numerously informed by me - that that is factually NOT the case - Russian troops left Georgia the moment Georgia acquitted towards stopping their attacks onto separatist regions (5 days in 2008), They did not stay there for 10-20 years to destroy and fuck up the place. Also I had informed you that attacking a single country - especially a directly neighboring country has absolutely nothing to do with Imperialism.

Again you are just sprouting MSM drivel - intentionally supplemented with additional lies, falsely propagated by you.
 
The War in Korea was certainly worth fighting. We preserved the existence of South Korea, which is certainly a better country than North Korea, which started the war by attacking South Korea.
Your history knowledge seems to be very shallow - why did a North and South Korea came into existence in the first place?
Both North and South Korea were ruled by suppressive autocratic leaders - both wanted reunification, and North-Korea went into action first.
As such the USA was simply and only interested in preventing a reunification - due to N-Korea being communist ruled.
The War in the Gulf started when Iraq invaded Kuwait.
Both countries were ruled by authoritarian non-democratic regimes. The chief reason for U.S. involvement in the Iraq-Kuwait conflict was concern over Iraq’s antagonism to Saudi Arabia, a key American ally. Iraq’s presence in Kuwait gave them strategic positioning in relation to Saudi Arabia.

After its invasion of Kuwait, Iraq made several demands as part of a conditional retreat. Iraq wanted all foreign troops out of the Middle East, a resolution to the Israel-Palestine conflict and the dismantlement of Israel’s weapons of mass destruction. Iraq also demanded an end to sanctions, permanent access to the Persian Gulf and sole ownership of the Rumaila oil field. The United States refused to negotiate on these demands and set a firm deadline for Iraq’s withdrawal.

All in all, simply US Imperialism and hegemonic interests, at it's finest.

The invasion of Afghanistan happened because Afghanistan refused to extradite Osama bin Laden, who planned 9/11.
No country in the world has a right to demand extradition, towards another sovereign country.
The Taliban had made it clear, that Osama will face and be tried under Taliban laws. So why didn't the USA wait for the trial and it's results?
Because the mindset of an imperialistic and hegemonic country and superpower - doesn't give a shit about international law.

Again all your three statements and arguments fail.
 
Decisions to join NATO were made by elected officials. There is no evidence that these decisions were ever unpopular with the electorates.
In order to join NATO - West-Germany needed an Army first. The decision by the then reigning CDU/CSU coalition to reenact a German Army was NOT supported by the majority of the population.
As for joining NATO - no plebiscite was held either - as usual for fake democracies.

Only a naive person - believes that an elected official - would factually represent his voters, and not simply his parties agenda.
 
They choose to join NATO.
Choosing by others (political-parties) is one thing - there is no obligation by NATO to accept/permit new aspirants.
If Ukraine had been a member of NATO before the invasion, the Russian invasion would have been stopped at the border, with enormous loss of Russian lives.
Since NATO is a threat towards the world and Russia - naturally Russia wanted to prevent exactly that from happening
You obviously never read posts directed at you.
The reason some Eastern European countries initially supported the Nazis was because they knew how evil the Soviet Union was.
The Soviets NEVER killed and murdered for racial reasons. And "they" didn't just support the Nazi's initially - but right up to the moment Soviet tanks rolled into their capitals. Aside from Finland that received guarantees from the Soviet-Union - and were up-kept until today by Russia.
With Finland joining NATO - Finland factually broke the peace agreement in regards to "Neutrality" - therefore even handing Russia a legitimate reason for taking action against them - if deemed necessary.
 
Choosing by others (political-parties) is one thing - there is no obligation by NATO to accept/permit new aspirants.

Since NATO is a threat towards the world and Russia - naturally Russia wanted to prevent exactly that from happening
You obviously never read posts directed at you.

The Soviets NEVER killed and murdered for racial reasons. And "they" didn't just support the Nazi's initially - but right up to the moment Soviet tanks rolled into their capitals. Aside from Finland that received guarantees from the Soviet-Union - and were up-kept until today by Russia.
With Finland joining NATO - Finland factually broke the peace agreement in regards to "Neutrality" - therefore even handing Russia a legitimate reason for taking action against them - if deemed necessary.
The Russians killed for a lot of other reasons.

I guess the Finns changed their mind since they signed that peace agreement. They probably signed under duress. The Russian invasion of Ukraine is why they decided to join NATO.
 
The Russians killed for a lot of other reasons.
So has anyone else on the planet - incl. the USA. Murdering almost the entire native population, and 2 million civilians just in Vietnam alone - justified via "to prevent communism" is a morbid joke.
I guess the Finns changed their mind since they signed that peace agreement. They probably signed under duress. The Russian invasion of Ukraine is why they decided to join NATO.
Again you proof that you ain't reading posts - I clearly stated that Russia NEVER threatened or posed a danger to Finland - but has kept it's word (signature) for 79 years.
 

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