Russian Calls Out Barack Obama As A Communist

[francoHFW]

99- AND Pubs were against it lol- like the Marshall Plan...That helped, but RUSSIAN tanks and planes, and 7 million dead soldiers beat the Nazis...

 

[Contumacious]

When conservativism is no longer democratic, it's fascism. WHEN SOCIALISM IS NO LONGER DEMOCRATIC, IT'S COMMUNISM. period.That is their extreme form. COMMUNISM IN THE REAL WORLD IS NOT THE UTOPIAN FANTASY, MAN ISN'T PERFECT, SO YOU NEED A TOTALITARIAN STATE AND MONEY TO MAKE IT ''WORK''... sorry about the caps...

Not necessarily.

Monarchies are conservative and not Democratic. That's not Fascism.
Theocracies are conservative and not Democratic. That's not Fascism.

Wrong again.

Any form of government where the bureaucrats can dictate and tax businesses is FASCIST whether it is done in the name of the fatherland or a god.

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[kwc57]

I thought we were talking about communism in the real world...not a Beckian fantasy LOL

Do you get a little micro erection when you mention Beck or Rush? You sure are fixated on them.

 

[kwc57]

Outside of the US, Obama is seen as a centrist, and the TP as illiterate far rw hater dupes lol...

Outside the US, Obama is seen as a laughing stock.

 

[tooAlive]

Outside of the US, Obama is seen as a centrist, and the TP as illiterate far rw hater dupes lol...

Outside the US, Obama is seen as a laughing stock.

You literally just read my mind. Although you were much more generous when regarding the Emperor.

 

[francoHFW]

Outside of the US, Obama is seen as a centrist, and the TP as illiterate far rw hater dupes lol...

Outside the US, Obama is seen as a laughing stock.

You literally just read my mind. Although you were much more generous when regarding the Emperor.

rw Idiocy- Funny how he has 70-80 per cent approval, while Reagan and W NEVER WERE OVER THE 40'S AND REACHED THE 20'S IN THE END...

 

[Lovebears65]

American knowledge of geography is astonishing

If the USSR actually practiced communism it would have even more authenticity.

USSR was a pure socialist country. Communism never existed.

But it does not change the fact that the population of USSR at the highest was 250 million people and together with all Eastern European bloc never more than 370 million

a "billion"

communist never existed. Tell that to the North Koreans

 

[Sallow]

Outside of the US, Obama is seen as a centrist, and the TP as illiterate far rw hater dupes lol...

Outside the US, Obama is seen as a laughing stock.

You literally just read my mind. Although you were much more generous when regarding the Emperor.

Either of you guys ever travel outside the US?

I mean to somewhere other than a tropical Island.

 

[Sallow]

If the USSR actually practiced communism it would have even more authenticity.

USSR was a pure socialist country. Communism never existed.

But it does not change the fact that the population of USSR at the highest was 250 million people and together with all Eastern European bloc never more than 370 million

a "billion"

communist never existed. Tell that to the North Koreans

North Korea calls itself the Democratic Republic of North Korea.

 

[Contumacious]

USSR was a pure socialist country. Communism never existed.

But it does not change the fact that the population of USSR at the highest was 250 million people and together with all Eastern European bloc never more than 370 million

a "billion"

communist never existed. Tell that to the North Koreans

North Korea calls itself the Democratic Republic of North Korea.

And the US calls itself the "land of the free"

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[kwc57]

Outside the US, Obama is seen as a laughing stock.

You literally just read my mind. Although you were much more generous when regarding the Emperor.

Either of you guys ever travel outside the US?

I mean to somewhere other than a tropical Island.

Yes indeed. Obama is neither respected or feared.

 

[kwc57]

USSR was a pure socialist country. Communism never existed.

But it does not change the fact that the population of USSR at the highest was 250 million people and together with all Eastern European bloc never more than 370 million

a "billion"

communist never existed. Tell that to the North Koreans

North Korea calls itself the Democratic Republic of North Korea.

And liberals call Obama the "smartest president evah". What's your point?

 

[Vox]

If the USSR actually practiced communism it would have even more authenticity.

USSR was a pure socialist country. Communism never existed.

But it does not change the fact that the population of USSR at the highest was 250 million people and together with all Eastern European bloc never more than 370 million

a "billion"

communist never existed. Tell that to the North Koreans

it is not communism per se. It is pure socialism, or the first stage of communism, if one would be sticking to the descriptions of those who actually started the whole mayhem

 

[Vox]

So, Vox, the Tea Party definition is the only true definition and who in the hell needs several different dictionaries that all have basically the same definitions and are put together by scholars who are non-partisans. Is that correct?
Yeah, that's the ticket!

TP has never defined the meanings of socialism or communism.
Marx and Lenin did.
Learn the basics.

No they didn't, Vox. That may have been what you were taught, but that doesn't make it so.

Socialism was around long before Marx and there were dozens of socialist theorists who had as much sway over revolutionary politics as did Marx.

People, too many people, conflate Marxism and socialism. And that's too bad. They aren't the same. Some forms of socialism are hostile to Marx's version of socialism and some aren't. Karl Marx was only one of the many revolutionary theorists trying to describe a socialist or utopian vision of the future. And frankly, Marx was one of the worst, one of the least intellectual and his theories were some of the most disjointed daydreams in economic and political history

All Marxists are socialists, but not all socialists are Marxists.

Word

Yes, they did, Edge.
They were the ones who started this whole communist-socialist derailment of the society and I will stick to their descriptions and their formulas on order not to confuse white with black and vice verse

You are confused on the issue, since in the western world it has been consistently manipulated by the leftist "historians", "sociologians" and the whole bunch of others whose main goal was to make the failed doctrine look appealing.

That is why you and others here constantly repeat the idiocy of "various socialisms", "double models", "socialisms with a human face" ( OK, the latter one is a satire ) and other BS.

Socilism is only one - as described by Marx and developed later by Lenin - an economic platform based on the absence of private property of the means of production ( also called the first stage of communism) with different variations of superstructures - which is the type of government, culture, social interactions of the society. The latter can differ - therefore there were many variations of socialist countries - USSR, North Korea, Hungary, Nazi Germany, China, Cuba, Albania, Yugoslavia.


Now, what you and many consider "socialism" is social-democratism and it's difference from socialism is fundamental - social-democrats do not consider total abolishing of the private property of the means of production - and therefore they are basically a non-violent political faction, contrary to socialists/communists - because abolishing of the private property can not be achieved peacefully - it requires violence in maintenance of this economic platform.Social-democratic society can be democratic society and have capitalist economic system as it's base. The degree of nationalization and government overreach varies in different countries where social-democrats have been ruling the vast majority of the last century, but those are details. And yes, those political tendencies are mostly non-Marxist, but not entirely ( depends on the time frame and the country, social democrats of Weimar republic were Marxist leaning, social democrats of Western Germany circa 1965 - not).

BTW, socialists/communists of a standard marxist type hate social democrats and consider them their enemy, although stupid social democrats tend to embrace socialists and commies.

 

[g5000]

Outside the US, Obama is seen as a laughing stock.

You literally just read my mind. Although you were much more generous when regarding the Emperor.

rw Idiocy- Funny how he has 70-80 per cent approval, while Reagan and W NEVER WERE OVER THE 40'S AND REACHED THE 20'S IN THE END...

The only place Obama has an approval rating over 50 percent is in Africa.

 

[J.E.D]

More right-whiners praising Russia...yaaaa

 

[jasonnfree]

Follow your own advice and open a book, not a leftard propaganda piece sometimes and stop bullshitting about socialism or communism - it is obvious you have no idea what you are talking about.

Communism never existed - except a brief period in 1918 as a military communism variation.

And read the basics, at least once, instead of regurgitating some modern shit American propaganda which tries to make black white and socialism acceptable.

You may start with Marx'sManifesto and after digesting tve original try to understandLenin's Materialism and Empiriocriticism.

If your parrots mind will be able to.

Then might come the turn for April thesis. If you survive without your goebbels propaganda machine which has to explain it to you

Vox you are right. It seems that Swallow can't tell one utopian political philosophy from another. Anarchism, socialism and communism - the three stooges of political thought.

you bet I am. I have had to study all this Marxism-leninism shit 6 years in medical school and take state graduation exams - otherwise I won't be able to graduate

You're joking? You had to study marxism-leninism 6 years in med school? What country do you live in?

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

Vox you are right. It seems that Swallow can't tell one utopian political philosophy from another. Anarchism, socialism and communism - the three stooges of political thought.

you bet I am. I have had to study all this Marxism-leninism shit 6 years in medical school and take state graduation exams - otherwise I won't be able to graduate

You're joking? You had to study marxism-leninism 6 years in med school? What country do you live in?

 

[Vox]

Vox you are right. It seems that Swallow can't tell one utopian political philosophy from another. Anarchism, socialism and communism - the three stooges of political thought.

you bet I am. I have had to study all this Marxism-leninism shit 6 years in medical school and take state graduation exams - otherwise I won't be able to graduate

You're joking? You had to study marxism-leninism 6 years in med school? What country do you live in?

this just proves how ignorant you and your twin leftard brothers are - you have no idea about the world around if your masters did not brainwash you
those regimes changed and the biggest country which was the vanguard of the idiocy does not exist anymore.
does not change the fact that EVERYBODY in any university throughout the whole Eastern bloc had to study this shit for the whole course of their education - and take state exams.
It was mandatory and started in the high school.

 

[bodecea]

If the USSR actually practiced communism it would have even more authenticity.

USSR was a pure socialist country. Communism never existed.

But it does not change the fact that the population of USSR at the highest was 250 million people and together with all Eastern European bloc never more than 370 million

a "billion"

communist never existed. Tell that to the North Koreans

North Korea is even LESS of a communist country than the USSR. Have you ever even read The Communist Manifesto? Do you even know what the definition of communism is?