Same sex marriage OR RELIGIOUS FREEDOM

[S.J.]

Churches will be forced to marry homosexuals or be shut down.

They won't shut them down ... They will remove their tax exempt status.
People are still going to pray ... The government just wants their cut.

Churches aren't even obligated to marry straight couples.

Minor oversight ... Not that it matters.

But anyway ... It is pretty much a done deal and some people had a really good day.
You might as well be happy for them ... Because that is about all you have left.

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More incrementalism. First they take away their tax exempt status, then they shut them down.

 

[Skylar]

religion does not have a monopoly on social contracts or constructs...in the USA...

It has the right to not perform them due to their religious beliefs. BOOM! You just got blown the fuck up.

You don't even understand, churches won't be forced to hold marriages.

It's an incremental step toward dismantling religion. Churches will be forced to marry homosexuals or be shut down.

You can't actually believe what you're post says, that's fear mongering and idiocy.

Tell that to the bakers and photographers who were sued for not bowing to the radical homosexual agenda.

They violated state PA laws. If your religion makes it impossible to do your job, find another job.

Church isn't job or a business. It's a protected non profit under the constitution to practice it's religion. It accepts donations not charges a members fee. You are what is wrong with a democracy not what is right.

The bakers and photographers in question weren't a church or a non-profit. But for profit businesses. Remember, you don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about.

Churches aren't businesses. And are explicity exempt from PA laws. Nixing your entire premise.

 

[Judicial review]

It has the right to not perform them due to their religious beliefs. BOOM! You just got blown the fuck up.

You don't even understand, churches won't be forced to hold marriages.

It's an incremental step toward dismantling religion. Churches will be forced to marry homosexuals or be shut down.

You can't actually believe what you're post says, that's fear mongering and idiocy.

Tell that to the bakers and photographers who were sued for not bowing to the radical homosexual agenda.

They violated state PA laws. If your religion makes it impossible to do your job, find another job.

Church isn't job or a business. It's a protected non profit under the constitution to practice it's religion. It accepts donations not charges a members fee. You are what is wrong with a democracy not what is right.

The bakers and photographers in question weren't a church or a non-profit. But for profit businesses. Remember, you don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about.

Churches aren't businesses. And are explicity exempt from PA laws. Nixing your entire premise.

I just said that if you chose not to read then that is your problem not mine.

They will be sued. How much do you want to bet?

 

[BlackSand]

More incrementalism. First they take away their tax exempt status, then they shut them down.

There is no money in shutting them down ... Not going to happen.
It is like smokers ... Make them the villain, tax the crap out of them ... And pray to God they don't quit so you can keep the funding coming in.

.

 

[Skylar]

Churches will be forced to marry homosexuals or be shut down.

They won't shut them down ... They will remove their tax exempt status.
People are still going to pray ... The government just wants their cut.

Churches aren't even obligated to marry straight couples.

Minor oversight ... Not that it matters.

But anyway ... It is pretty much a done deal and some people had a really good day.
You might as well be happy for them ... Because that is about all you have left.

.

More incrementalism. First they take away their tax exempt status, then they shut them down.

So your theory is......that 'they' are trying to shut down all religion?

Holy fuck. That is some quality batshit.

 

[AntiParty]

Take your pick. This is the decision that the Supreme Court just forced itself to hvae to make in the future by ruling same sex marriage as a right equal to freedom of religion, speech and protest as stated in the 1st amendment or if you will the 1st bill of rights. It should have NEVER listened to this case for THIS exact reason. Period.

Conservatives catching up to, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"

A famous person once said, "Do not judge or be judged"

 

[Skylar]

You don't even understand, churches won't be forced to hold marriages.
You can't actually believe what you're post says, that's fear mongering and idiocy.

Tell that to the bakers and photographers who were sued for not bowing to the radical homosexual agenda.

They violated state PA laws. If your religion makes it impossible to do your job, find another job.

Church isn't job or a business. It's a protected non profit under the constitution to practice it's religion. It accepts donations not charges a members fee. You are what is wrong with a democracy not what is right.

The bakers and photographers in question weren't a church or a non-profit. But for profit businesses. Remember, you don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about.

Churches aren't businesses. And are explicity exempt from PA laws. Nixing your entire premise.

I just said that if you chose not to read then that is your problem not mine.

They will be sued. How much do you want to bet?

And the backpedalling starts again. You didn't read what you were responding to, did you? You didn't catch that we were referring to the bakers and photographers....who most definitely aren't churches. But for profit businesses.

Read first. Then respond. It will help you avoid more embarrassing blunders like the one you just made.

 

[S.J.]

Churches will be forced to marry homosexuals or be shut down.

They won't shut them down ... They will remove their tax exempt status.
People are still going to pray ... The government just wants their cut.

Churches aren't even obligated to marry straight couples.

Minor oversight ... Not that it matters.

But anyway ... It is pretty much a done deal and some people had a really good day.
You might as well be happy for them ... Because that is about all you have left.

.

More incrementalism. First they take away their tax exempt status, then they shut them down.

So your theory is......that 'they' are trying to shut down all religion?

Holy fuck. That is some quality batshit.

Hey asshole, what part of "I'm not interested in arguing with a moron" don't you understand?

 

[Judicial review]

Churches will be forced to marry homosexuals or be shut down.

They won't shut them down ... They will remove their tax exempt status.
People are still going to pray ... The government just wants their cut.

Churches aren't even obligated to marry straight couples.

Minor oversight ... Not that it matters.

But anyway ... It is pretty much a done deal and some people had a really good day.
You might as well be happy for them ... Because that is about all you have left.

.

More incrementalism. First they take away their tax exempt status, then they shut them down.

So your theory is......that 'they' are trying to shut down all religion?

Holy fuck. That is some quality batshit.

The moment you FORCE a church to marry against it's beliefs you do exactly that. There is no limit to how far one can go. Period.

 

[Skylar]

Take your pick. This is the decision that the Supreme Court just forced itself to hvae to make in the future by ruling same sex marriage as a right equal to freedom of religion, speech and protest as stated in the 1st amendment or if you will the 1st bill of rights. It should have NEVER listened to this case for THIS exact reason. Period.

Conservatives catching up to, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"

A famous person once said, "Do not judge or be judged"

Clearly a dimocrap commie piece of hippie shit who almost certainly wore sandals. You know who else wore sandals?

Hitler.

 

[Judicial review]

Tell that to the bakers and photographers who were sued for not bowing to the radical homosexual agenda.

They violated state PA laws. If your religion makes it impossible to do your job, find another job.

Church isn't job or a business. It's a protected non profit under the constitution to practice it's religion. It accepts donations not charges a members fee. You are what is wrong with a democracy not what is right.

The bakers and photographers in question weren't a church or a non-profit. But for profit businesses. Remember, you don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about.

Churches aren't businesses. And are explicity exempt from PA laws. Nixing your entire premise.

I just said that if you chose not to read then that is your problem not mine.

They will be sued. How much do you want to bet?

And the backpedalling starts again. You didn't read what you were responding to, did you? You didn't catch that we were referring to the bakers and photographers....who most definitely aren't churches. But for profit businesses.

Read first. Then respond. It will help you avoid more embarrassing blunders like the one you just made.

I know all of that I'm the one who mentioned it, but I made a different point. I mentioned BOTH. Read again.

 

[Skylar]

Churches will be forced to marry homosexuals or be shut down.

They won't shut them down ... They will remove their tax exempt status.
People are still going to pray ... The government just wants their cut.

Churches aren't even obligated to marry straight couples.

Minor oversight ... Not that it matters.

But anyway ... It is pretty much a done deal and some people had a really good day.
You might as well be happy for them ... Because that is about all you have left.

.

More incrementalism. First they take away their tax exempt status, then they shut them down.

So your theory is......that 'they' are trying to shut down all religion?

Holy fuck. That is some quality batshit.

The moment you FORCE a church to marry against it's beliefs you do exactly that. There is no limit to how far one can go. Period.

And who, pray tell, is forcing a church to marry against their beliefs? Can you name a single example?

Of course not. You've got nothing but your imagination.

Period.

 

[Judicial review]

Take your pick. This is the decision that the Supreme Court just forced itself to hvae to make in the future by ruling same sex marriage as a right equal to freedom of religion, speech and protest as stated in the 1st amendment or if you will the 1st bill of rights. It should have NEVER listened to this case for THIS exact reason. Period.

Conservatives catching up to, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"

A famous person once said, "Do not judge or be judged"

Clearly a dimocrap commie piece of hippie shit who almost certainly wore sandals. You know who else wore sandals?

Hitler.

You are a troll. On ignore you go. fuck off.

 

[Skylar]

They violated state PA laws. If your religion makes it impossible to do your job, find another job.

Church isn't job or a business. It's a protected non profit under the constitution to practice it's religion. It accepts donations not charges a members fee. You are what is wrong with a democracy not what is right.

The bakers and photographers in question weren't a church or a non-profit. But for profit businesses. Remember, you don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about.

Churches aren't businesses. And are explicity exempt from PA laws. Nixing your entire premise.

I just said that if you chose not to read then that is your problem not mine.

They will be sued. How much do you want to bet?

And the backpedalling starts again. You didn't read what you were responding to, did you? You didn't catch that we were referring to the bakers and photographers....who most definitely aren't churches. But for profit businesses.

Read first. Then respond. It will help you avoid more embarrassing blunders like the one you just made.

I know all of that I'm the one who mentioned it, but I made a different point. I mentioned BOTH. Read again.

No, that was SJ:

Tell that to the bakers and photographers who were sued for not bowing to the radical homosexual agenda.

You can't even paraphrase yourself with any accuracy. But you're gonna tell us the future?

Um, no. You simply don't know what you're talking about. PA laws don't apply to churches. And no one is forcing churches to marry anyone against their will.

 

[Judicial review]

The idiot who say no one will sue a church now if fucking retarded and will get annihilated once it happens and should be labeled a communist for believing in restricting freedom. This thread is officially bookmarked.

 

[HappyJoy]

The idiot who say no one will sue a church now if fucking retarded and will get annihilated once it happens and should be labeled a communist for believing in restricting freedom. This thread is officially bookmarked.

Anybody can sue, it's whether they win the lawsuit or how soon it's thrown out of court that matters.

EDIT: How have the churches in Massachusetts handled the onslaught of lawsuits over the issue of gay marriage the last decade?

 

[Judicial review]

The idiot who say no one will sue a church now if fucking retarded and will get annihilated once it happens and should be labeled a communist for believing in restricting freedom. This thread is officially bookmarked.

Anybody can sue, it's whether they win the lawsuit or how soon it's thrown out of court that matters.

When it comes to individual rights of this magnitude the Supreme court has a responsibility to hear it and they will.

 

[HappyJoy]

The idiot who say no one will sue a church now if fucking retarded and will get annihilated once it happens and should be labeled a communist for believing in restricting freedom. This thread is officially bookmarked.

Anybody can sue, it's whether they win the lawsuit or how soon it's thrown out of court that matters.

When it comes to individual rights of this magnitude the Supreme court has a responsibility to hear it and they will.

No, they really don't.

You missed my edit from the last post:

EDIT: How have the churches in Massachusetts handled the onslaught of lawsuits over the issue of gay marriage the last decade?

 

[BlackSand]

The idiot who say no one will sue a church now if fucking retarded and will get annihilated once it happens and should be labeled a communist for believing in restricting freedom. This thread is officially bookmarked.

Anybody can sue, it's whether they win the lawsuit or how soon it's thrown out of court that matters.

If the courts can decide that the language of the legislation doesn't match the intent of the legislation (Like SCOTUS and ObamaCare) ... Then it is not a question of if you can win the case ... And more a question of "did you take it to the right court".

.

 

[Skylar]

The idiot who say no one will sue a church now if fucking retarded and will get annihilated once it happens and should be labeled a communist for believing in restricting freedom. This thread is officially bookmarked.

And who is saying that no one will sue a church? You simply suck at paraphrasing. Of course someone will sue.

And the courts will shut them down. As churches are exempted from PA laws. What you insist will happen......almost certainly won't. You don't understand probability. You have no idea what you're talking about. And you don't understand any of the legal principles involved in the topic.

You can't even quote yourself accurately.

No thank you.