Scientist discovers errors in global warming model

[gtopa1]

I'm just waiting for the Globalist idiots to start pushing a 'Global Cooling' scam. Because i assure you, that is coming next. But see, at least Global Cooling is a real threat to humanity. There is no evidence showing Global Warming ends life on Earth. In fact, in the warmest temperatures ever recorded, life actually thrived on the Planet. It was incredibly diverse and abundant. More so than today.

However, when it turns cold, life struggles to survive. Not much survives Ice Ages. So at least Global Cooling would be somewhat of a concern. But again, no need to panic. You're gonna die of anything but Global Warming and Global Cooling. So just live and enjoy your short time here. Peace.

Been there done that: 1974 the leftards were pushing we were headed into another ice age unless we acted now. Maybe we overreacted?
Another Ice Age?

Awww, it's that cute global cooling myth again that was debunked last decade.

An enduring popular myth suggests that in the 1970s the climate science community was predicting “global cooling” and an “imminent” ice age, an observation frequently used by those who would undermine what climate scientists say today about the prospect of global warming. A review of the literature suggests that, on the contrary, greenhouse warming even then dominated scientists' thinking as being one of the most important forces shaping Earth's climate on human time scales. More importantly than showing the falsehood of the myth, this review describes how scientists of the time built the foundation on which the cohesive enterprise of modern climate science now rests.

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Point of information: Prof Ian Lowe was DEFINITELY pushing the Global Cooling myth at the time. I know because I attended his lectures. He is NOW a major local AGW alarmist. He was always a left wing nutter. As such he is much beloved by the "anti-USA Capitalist pigs" crowd. He worked his way up through the anti-Nuclear movement. Frankly he's a conman. The established Science hierarchy regarded him with disdain!!

Greg

 

[gtopa1]

One thing you learn in all this, is that human beings are fascinated, and obsessed with End-Times and death. They're consumed with the harsh reality of mortality. Whether it's religious zealots, zombie apocalypse zealots, or Global Warming zealots, they all have that in common.

They're obsessed with their eventual demise. There has to be an impending doom to fear. They take some sort of comfort in believing they know how it's gonna end for em. I guess it's the human condition. The sad inevitability of the end.

Well some may be. Personally I'm with the "you know not the hour" mob.

Greg

 

[Misty]

Try reading the Wall Street journal.

WSJ Editorial Page under John Fund used to push the Vince Foster may have been murdered by the Clintons meme

The wsj news pages are linked to from many of Dante's posts. Ask for a clue when you you get your new life

There are many articles that prove this is a scam. You can diss my sources all you want but your government is lying to you.

 

[Billy_Bob]

"A former climate modeller for the Government’s Australian Greenhouse Office, with six degrees in applied mathematics, Dr Evans has unpacked the architecture of the basic climate model which underpins all climate science.

He has found that, while the underlying physics of the model is correct, it had been applied incorrectly.

He has fixed two errors and the new corrected model finds the climate’s sensitivity to carbon dioxide (CO2) is much lower than was thought.

It turns out the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has over-estimated future global warming by as much as 10 times, he says.

“Yes, CO2 has an effect, but it’s about a fifth or tenth of what the IPCC says it is. CO2 is not driving the climate; it caused less than 20 per cent of the global warming in the last few decades”.

CO2 is not causing global warming.



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Sorry, this is a non-starter. You violated the inherent truth of liberalism

evidence your objection to the climate science is one of ideology and not science and truth

Climate science, as it stands today IS ideology and political biased crap as evidenced by the 126 non-empirical (fantasy) models that have been produced and have ALL FAILED.. They have NO PREDICTIVE POWER.

The proof is in the output of these people and the claims of doom unsupported by any real facts or empirical evidence.

 

[Billy_Bob]

So a scientist -- discovers this?

So the scientific community has NOT been lying if this news is taken to be credible. It only means science was incorrect and gets corrected as time goes on? Wow!

Science at work? What will the right wing denier nuts do now, embrace science and scientists? Nah, they'll talk about Al Gore and other shit

A correction which blows the global warming myth to hell

Myth?

I bet you think the whole world believed the world was flat until Columbus -- probably learned that in grade school where you became a climate scientist

I'm not a climate scientists. I'm a skeptic. And I can see that our country is using climate change to take away freedoms and to sell green energy.

Which only proves you're a conspiracist and a skeptic. Not very healthy mentally. When evidence is overwhelming and there is a consensus, a skeptic becomes at best a fool

Jump to adhominems and personal attacks.. Then you run to "authority" and your too stupid to know..... what a load of crap.

 

[Billy_Bob]

So a guy with degrees in math goes on his wife's blog, and he's your credible climate scientist, yet most every single climate scientist in the world agree with the globe has warmed and man has something to do with it?

Okay -- and you and your blogger know more about the science than NASA does NASA: Climate Change and Global Warming

Dr Evens is highly respected in his field.. He is also very well versed in statistical evaluation of mathematical models...

 

[Billy_Bob]

But the science is settled!

on the point that the globe has warmed? Yes. As with all science new evidence could alter, upend, or even strengthen the point. NASA: Climate Change and Global Warming

But if you want to claim NASA and most every single expert in the field of climate science is wrong...

please don't whine or complain when you are called a fool

No school age child under the age 18 has see ANY GLOBAL WARMING...

If we run a linear regression with today as the start date going backwards it has been 18 years 8 months since the globe warmed.

Source

 

[Billy_Bob]

"A former climate modeller for the Government’s Australian Greenhouse Office, with six degrees in applied mathematics, Dr Evans has unpacked the architecture of the basic climate model which underpins all climate science.

He has found that, while the underlying physics of the model is correct, it had been applied incorrectly.

He has fixed two errors and the new corrected model finds the climate’s sensitivity to carbon dioxide (CO2) is much lower than was thought.

It turns out the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has over-estimated future global warming by as much as 10 times, he says.

“Yes, CO2 has an effect, but it’s about a fifth or tenth of what the IPCC says it is. CO2 is not driving the climate; it caused less than 20 per cent of the global warming in the last few decades”.

CO2 is not causing global warming.



Read more: Australian scientist discovers ERRORS in Global Warming models that COMPLETELY undermine climate theory!!! » The Right Scoop -

Once you weed through the considerable empty and inflammatory rhetoric in Evans' opinion article, the meat consists of a number of long-debunked myths and gross misunderstandings of basic climate science. Evans' article is the "skeptic" equivalent of eating red hot candies: not much substance, empty calories, but it gets the blood boiling!

David Evans' Understanding of the Climate Goes Cold

You have got to be kidding... Skeptical Science??? WTF.. those liars....??. Nuttercellie and Cook are pair of left wing liars and they wont stop. They will resort to defamation of ethical scientists. Talk about a lack of credibility...

 

[flacaltenn]

I'm just waiting for the Globalist idiots to start pushing a 'Global Cooling' scam. Because i assure you, that is coming next. But see, at least Global Cooling is a real threat to humanity. There is no evidence showing Global Warming ends life on Earth. In fact, in the warmest temperatures ever recorded, life actually thrived on the Planet. It was incredibly diverse and abundant. More so than today.

However, when it turns cold, life struggles to survive. Not much survives Ice Ages. So at least Global Cooling would be somewhat of a concern. But again, no need to panic. You're gonna die of anything but Global Warming and Global Cooling. So just live and enjoy your short time here. Peace.

Been there done that: 1974 the leftards were pushing we were headed into another ice age unless we acted now. Maybe we overreacted?
Another Ice Age?

Awww, it's that cute global cooling myth again that was debunked last decade.

An enduring popular myth suggests that in the 1970s the climate science community was predicting “global cooling” and an “imminent” ice age, an observation frequently used by those who would undermine what climate scientists say today about the prospect of global warming. A review of the literature suggests that, on the contrary, greenhouse warming even then dominated scientists' thinking as being one of the most important forces shaping Earth's climate on human time scales. More importantly than showing the falsehood of the myth, this review describes how scientists of the time built the foundation on which the cohesive enterprise of modern climate science now rests.

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Actually, many currently believe the earth is about to enter a cooling cycle. But regardless, Global Warming/Global Cooling? We'll survive... Or we won't.

No not really. Most believe we have just started the interglacial period which will last for thousands of years.

Adapt or die.

Check your smart-watch. This interglacial is already longer than 2 of the previous three.. Time's a'wasting.
Good news is -- spewing A LOT of CO2 might just help a few people in the higher latitudes survive the next glacial period..

 

[Billy_Bob]

I'm just waiting for the Globalist idiots to start pushing a 'Global Cooling' scam. Because i assure you, that is coming next. But see, at least Global Cooling is a real threat to humanity. There is no evidence showing Global Warming ends life on Earth. In fact, in the warmest temperatures ever recorded, life actually thrived on the Planet. It was incredibly diverse and abundant. More so than today.

However, when it turns cold, life struggles to survive. Not much survives Ice Ages. So at least Global Cooling would be somewhat of a concern. But again, no need to panic. You're gonna die of anything but Global Warming and Global Cooling. So just live and enjoy your short time here. Peace.

Been there done that: 1974 the leftards were pushing we were headed into another ice age unless we acted now. Maybe we overreacted?
Another Ice Age?

Awww, it's that cute global cooling myth again that was debunked last decade.

An enduring popular myth suggests that in the 1970s the climate science community was predicting “global cooling” and an “imminent” ice age, an observation frequently used by those who would undermine what climate scientists say today about the prospect of global warming. A review of the literature suggests that, on the contrary, greenhouse warming even then dominated scientists' thinking as being one of the most important forces shaping Earth's climate on human time scales. More importantly than showing the falsehood of the myth, this review describes how scientists of the time built the foundation on which the cohesive enterprise of modern climate science now rests.

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Actually, many currently believe the earth is about to enter a cooling cycle. But regardless, Global Warming/Global Cooling? We'll survive... Or we won't.

No not really. Most believe we have just started the interglacial period which will last for thousands of years.

Adapt or die.

Check your smart-watch. This interglacial is already longer than 2 of the previous three.. Time's a'wasting.
Good news is -- spewing A LOT of CO2 might just help a few people in the higher latitudes survive the next glacial period..

Dag Namit... Westwall is right...!!! AGAIN!

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

"A former climate modeller for the Government’s Australian Greenhouse Office, with six degrees in applied mathematics, Dr Evans has unpacked the architecture of the basic climate model which underpins all climate science.

He has found that, while the underlying physics of the model is correct, it had been applied incorrectly.

He has fixed two errors and the new corrected model finds the climate’s sensitivity to carbon dioxide (CO2) is much lower than was thought.

It turns out the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has over-estimated future global warming by as much as 10 times, he says.

“Yes, CO2 has an effect, but it’s about a fifth or tenth of what the IPCC says it is. CO2 is not driving the climate; it caused less than 20 per cent of the global warming in the last few decades”.

CO2 is not causing global warming.



Read more: Australian scientist discovers ERRORS in Global Warming models that COMPLETELY undermine climate theory!!! » The Right Scoop -

Sorry, this is a non-starter. You violated the inherent truth of liberalism

evidence your objection to the climate science is one of ideology and not science and truth

Climate science, as it stands today IS ideology and political biased crap as evidenced by the 126 non-empirical (fantasy) models that have been produced and have ALL FAILED.. They have NO PREDICTIVE POWER.

The proof is in the output of these people and the claims of doom unsupported by any real facts or empirical evidence.

I can imagine you in the 1960s "We can't land a man on the moon!" Christ, those rockets failed during testing.

You are certainly coming from an ideological perspective. I know of no doomsday predictions. You are using news headlines (remember how many cures for AIDS there have been and end of the world Ebola scenarios ) and scenarios that have been proposed that say things like "If nothing is done..." well no one with any credibility (including Exxon: see Dante's links ) has been advocating doing nothing. Because the science says the Earth has warmed. The science also suggests humans are playing a part in it.

the consensus is built around the science, not the science around the consensus

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

But the science is settled!

on the point that the globe has warmed? Yes. As with all science new evidence could alter, upend, or even strengthen the point. NASA: Climate Change and Global Warming

But if you want to claim NASA and most every single expert in the field of climate science is wrong...

please don't whine or complain when you are called a fool

No school age child under the age 18 has see ANY GLOBAL WARMING...
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If we run a linear regression with today as the start date going backwards it has been 18 years 8 months since the globe warmed.

Source

another idiot with dueling graphs?

NASA and NOAA say the Earth has warmed up. They also say humans are playing a part in that.
Authority? Nah, experts and scientific evidence

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Been there done that: 1974 the leftards were pushing we were headed into another ice age unless we acted now. Maybe we overreacted?
Another Ice Age?

Awww, it's that cute global cooling myth again that was debunked last decade.

An enduring popular myth suggests that in the 1970s the climate science community was predicting “global cooling” and an “imminent” ice age, an observation frequently used by those who would undermine what climate scientists say today about the prospect of global warming. A review of the literature suggests that, on the contrary, greenhouse warming even then dominated scientists' thinking as being one of the most important forces shaping Earth's climate on human time scales. More importantly than showing the falsehood of the myth, this review describes how scientists of the time built the foundation on which the cohesive enterprise of modern climate science now rests.

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Actually, many currently believe the earth is about to enter a cooling cycle. But regardless, Global Warming/Global Cooling? We'll survive... Or we won't.

No not really. Most believe we have just started the interglacial period which will last for thousands of years.

Adapt or die.

Check your smart-watch. This interglacial is already longer than 2 of the previous three.. Time's a'wasting.
Good news is -- spewing A LOT of CO2 might just help a few people in the higher latitudes survive the next glacial period..

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Dag Namit... Westwall is right...!!! AGAIN!

Oh look! more stupid graphs.

you're not a climate scientist. you're an anonymous loser on a web based message board

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

There are many articles that prove this is a scam. You can diss my sources all you want but your government is lying to you.

prove?
that is nuts

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

there is a consensus on what the science says

most all the attacks here have been ideological ones.

 

[flacaltenn]

"A former climate modeller for the Government’s Australian Greenhouse Office, with six degrees in applied mathematics, Dr Evans has unpacked the architecture of the basic climate model which underpins all climate science.

He has found that, while the underlying physics of the model is correct, it had been applied incorrectly.

He has fixed two errors and the new corrected model finds the climate’s sensitivity to carbon dioxide (CO2) is much lower than was thought.

It turns out the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has over-estimated future global warming by as much as 10 times, he says.

“Yes, CO2 has an effect, but it’s about a fifth or tenth of what the IPCC says it is. CO2 is not driving the climate; it caused less than 20 per cent of the global warming in the last few decades”.

CO2 is not causing global warming.



Read more: Australian scientist discovers ERRORS in Global Warming models that COMPLETELY undermine climate theory!!! » The Right Scoop -

Sorry, this is a non-starter. You violated the inherent truth of liberalism

evidence your objection to the climate science is one of ideology and not science and truth

Climate science, as it stands today IS ideology and political biased crap as evidenced by the 126 non-empirical (fantasy) models that have been produced and have ALL FAILED.. They have NO PREDICTIVE POWER.

The proof is in the output of these people and the claims of doom unsupported by any real facts or empirical evidence.

I can imagine you in the 1960s "We can't land a man on the moon!" Christ, those rockets failed during testing.

You are certainly coming from an ideological perspective. I know of no doomsday predictions. You are using news headlines (remember how many cures for AIDS there have been and end of the world Ebola scenarios ) and scenarios that have been proposed that say things like "If nothing is done..." well no one with any credibility (including Exxon: see Dante's links ) has been advocating doing nothing. Because the science says the Earth has warmed. The science also suggests humans are playing a part in it.

the consensus is built around the science, not the science around the consensus

Didn't understand a word of that. But I suppose you're denying the MULTITUDE of doomsday predictions associated with catastrophic GW..

 

[flacaltenn]

there is a consensus on what the science says

most all the attacks here have been ideological ones.

Really? What was the consensus on the temperature anomaly expected in 2100 when the IPCC conferences first started and what it is NOW? All of this hysteria has been revised drastically downward since Al Gore played on everyone's fears. There are several in-depth polls where climate scientists were actually ASKED meaningful questions about GW --- and they show NO overwhelming confidence in the predictions, the modeling or even the assessment of past temperature histories of the planet.

Unlike the infamous 97% "poll" that wasn't a poll at all, but a bunch of activist former cartoonists reading abstracts and miscounting the number of the papers that said the earth was warming.

It's MORONIC to claim a 97% consensus unless there's only ONE QUESTION that needs to be answered. And the issue of GW has MANY questions.. On the IMPORTANT ones -- there is no consensus.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

"A former climate modeller for the Government’s Australian Greenhouse Office, with six degrees in applied mathematics, Dr Evans has unpacked the architecture of the basic climate model which underpins all climate science.

He has found that, while the underlying physics of the model is correct, it had been applied incorrectly.

He has fixed two errors and the new corrected model finds the climate’s sensitivity to carbon dioxide (CO2) is much lower than was thought.

It turns out the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has over-estimated future global warming by as much as 10 times, he says.

“Yes, CO2 has an effect, but it’s about a fifth or tenth of what the IPCC says it is. CO2 is not driving the climate; it caused less than 20 per cent of the global warming in the last few decades”.

CO2 is not causing global warming.



Read more: Australian scientist discovers ERRORS in Global Warming models that COMPLETELY undermine climate theory!!! » The Right Scoop -

Sorry, this is a non-starter. You violated the inherent truth of liberalism

evidence your objection to the climate science is one of ideology and not science and truth

Climate science, as it stands today IS ideology and political biased crap as evidenced by the 126 non-empirical (fantasy) models that have been produced and have ALL FAILED.. They have NO PREDICTIVE POWER.

The proof is in the output of these people and the claims of doom unsupported by any real facts or empirical evidence.

I can imagine you in the 1960s "We can't land a man on the moon!" Christ, those rockets failed during testing.

You are certainly coming from an ideological perspective. I know of no doomsday predictions. You are using news headlines (remember how many cures for AIDS there have been and end of the world Ebola scenarios ) and scenarios that have been proposed that say things like "If nothing is done..." well no one with any credibility (including Exxon: see Dante's links ) has been advocating doing nothing. Because the science says the Earth has warmed. The science also suggests humans are playing a part in it.

the consensus is built around the science, not the science around the consensus

Didn't understand a word of that. But I suppose you're denying the MULTITUDE of doomsday predictions associated with catastrophic GW..

Dante has never followed doomsday scenarios. Predictions layered with 'if we do nothing' and 'if nothing changes' always struck me as warnings and alerts rather than alarmist cries of 'the end is near'

Dante does not do conspiracy shit. Funny thing is Dante listens to Coast to Coast quite often.
Know thy opponent and watch and learn

you cannot grasp a simple truth: the consensus is built around the science, not the science around the consensus? poor you, poor you, pour you a strong drink

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

there is a consensus on what the science says

most all the attacks here have been ideological ones.

Really? What was the consensus on the temperature anomaly expected in 2100 when the IPCC conferences first started and what it is NOW? .

I didn't know scientists stating expected temps were a concrete thing. We must have different understandings of the word 'expected'

predictions of temps in 2100? Why are you hung up on that? Dante has said the globe has warmed. No credible scientist disputes this. Not the scientists hired by Exxon and others. What they differ on is what it means to business and other bottom line issues . then there are people like you with ideological based attacks looking around for parts of an overall design as if to say 'look here! a loose screw. the machine will not ever work'

Dante grew up outside of the airport. Things fall off of planes ALL the time, yet the planes still fly

 

[Billy_Bob]

But the science is settled!

on the point that the globe has warmed? Yes. As with all science new evidence could alter, upend, or even strengthen the point. NASA: Climate Change and Global Warming

But if you want to claim NASA and most every single expert in the field of climate science is wrong...

please don't whine or complain when you are called a fool

No school age child under the age 18 has see ANY GLOBAL WARMING...
View attachment 52604
If we run a linear regression with today as the start date going backwards it has been 18 years 8 months since the globe warmed.

Source

another idiot with dueling graphs?

NASA and NOAA say the Earth has warmed up. They also say humans are playing a part in that.
Authority? Nah, experts and scientific evidence

Oh look... another retard who has no scientific knowledge, demanding we think like his moronic ass and shove our heads where he has his..

Prove you assertions ass hole! Produce the math, methods and data so that we can see how you came to your fantasy land conclusions..

You must be a Crick clone.. you cant seem to read graphs or figure out how they were sourced so you just jump right to adhoms and disparagement because you can not refute the facts they represent.