Sherlock Holmes
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No, the issue is that you are unable to cite a source that states chaotic systems are not deterministic.I think I understand the issue you're having.
You don't know what "random" means
The assumption is whether the system is deterministic or not, whether it be random or chaotic follows from that.Randomness is a perceptual thing, it has to do with SCALE. Things that seem random at one scale may be distinctly non random at another.
(This is why we have a Law of Large Numbers).
Let's be specific and apply math to the question. First of all, we need a measure. "How random is it"? Such measures exist. There's lots of versions of them. Renyi spent half a lifetime studying the asymptotes of those measures.
Randomness is not a "property", it's an assumption. The assumption lets us do a little convenient math, which is to say, description of relationships.
That depends on whether it is deterministic or not.Now tell me this:
Is the roll of a pair of dice "random", or is it chaotic?
That depends on whether it is deterministic or not.How about this: if you put a ball at the very top of a mountain and it starts rolling downhill, is the direction random or is it chaotic?
That depends on whether it is deterministic or not.If you have a qubit that collapses, is the final state random or is it chaotic?