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No, the issue is that you are unable to cite a source that states chaotic systems are not deterministic.I think I understand the issue you're having.
You don't know what "random" means
The assumption is whether the system is deterministic or not, whether it be random or chaotic follows from that.Randomness is a perceptual thing, it has to do with SCALE. Things that seem random at one scale may be distinctly non random at another.
(This is why we have a Law of Large Numbers).
Let's be specific and apply math to the question. First of all, we need a measure. "How random is it"? Such measures exist. There's lots of versions of them. Renyi spent half a lifetime studying the asymptotes of those measures.
Randomness is not a "property", it's an assumption. The assumption lets us do a little convenient math, which is to say, description of relationships.
That depends on whether it is deterministic or not.Now tell me this:
Is the roll of a pair of dice "random", or is it chaotic?
That depends on whether it is deterministic or not.How about this: if you put a ball at the very top of a mountain and it starts rolling downhill, is the direction random or is it chaotic?
That depends on whether it is deterministic or not.If you have a qubit that collapses, is the final state random or is it chaotic?
No, the issue is that you are unable to cite a source that states chaotic systems are not deterministic.
The assumption is whether the system is deterministic or not, whether it be random or chaotic follows from that.
That depends on whether it is deterministic or not.
That depends on whether it is deterministic or not.
That depends on whether it is deterministic or not.
I read each of the two links you gave me:I just gave you half a dozen, little troll.
You think you're smarter than Hausdorff and Renyi?
Are you serious?I read each of the two links you gave me:
Guess what? the word "chaos" is absent from each of them.
Neither random nor chaotic systems are predictable. I explained this to you already that chaos is unpredictable but not random, why do I understand this better than you...Are you serious?
Now you're just being an idiot.
Stop with the bullshit, 'kay?
No one has time for silly word games.
If you think the roll of dice is deterministic, then PREDICT THE OUTCOME.
Temper, temper.If you can't do that, STFU and stop with the idiotic word games.
No, it's simple failure on your part.Neither random nor chaotic systems are predictable. I explained this to you already that chaos is unpredictable but not random, why do I understand this better than you...
Temper, temper.
