Secular Humanist (aka athiest) attack on christians continues

[nodoginnafight]

Am I a bad person for wanting to go to this theme park to grill the employees on creationism?

What makes you think they won't have prepared answers for any questions you come up with?

I'm sure they will but it would be fun to try to trip them up.

Actually it would be a waste of time because they will either just parrot the same dogma over and over again or ask you to leave.

Far more fun to engage a Jesuit who can come back with some decent thoughtful rebuttals in my opinion.

Do you really think they would ask me to leave? That would be requiring that patrons share their beliefs.

Or maybe it would be be asking their patrons to not lessen the experience for others ????

 

[Derideo_Te]

The government demanding employers to hire people who do not support the business model or the business plan is a bad idea. It's not going to work out well for anyone. I'm not talking legalisms - I'm talking common sense. So It's clear where I left some of you behind.

If you base your business plan/model on religious discrimination it is a bad plan/model.

I gather you were never admitted to any business school.

Ah, you attach a personal subjective "value" to a business plan and then try to insult someone else's intelligence for not agreeing?

yaaaaaawwwwwwnnnnnn

Nope, I am just pointing out that your lack of comprehension as to what makes for a sound business plan/model is so obvious that you patently don't have what it takes to make it in a business school.

Not my problem if the truth hurts.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Do you really think they would ask me to leave? That would be requiring that patrons share their beliefs.

I personally saw the Los Angeles Natural History Museum escort a creationist off their government owned property.

What's the difference? Oh, the creationist was a shithead, as you would no doubt be in the Ark park.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Accupuncture is not a religion. It is an alternative medical treatment.

Chi flow is religion - pure and simple.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Uh, no.

There is no "attack on christians" there.

Its against the law to discriminate based on religion. Deal with it.

Should McDonalds be required to let employees wear PETA shirts to work?

IF religious based organizations are prohibited from hiring those of the same faith, then the 1st Amendment is null and void - which is of course what you democrats seek.

McDonalds has a dress code!

The 1st Amendment does not apply in this instance because the government is not endorsing any specific religion. It is simply upholding the Constitutional requirement that you cannot discriminate on the basis of religion when it comes to hiring.

 

[nodoginnafight]

The government demanding employers to hire people who do not support the business model or the business plan is a bad idea. It's not going to work out well for anyone. I'm not talking legalisms - I'm talking common sense. So It's clear where I left some of you behind.

If you base your business plan/model on religious discrimination it is a bad plan/model.

I gather you were never admitted to any business school.

Ah, you attach a personal subjective "value" to a business plan and then try to insult someone else's intelligence for not agreeing?

yaaaaaawwwwwwnnnnnn

Nope, I am just pointing out that your lack of comprehension as to what makes for a sound business plan/model is so obvious that you patently don't have what it takes to make it in a business school.

Not my problem if the truth hurts.

Too funny - you want to assert that a "good" business model includes hiring people who do not support your business plan.

And THEN you wanna try to be arrogant about it.

BWWWAAAAAAAAHHHAAAAAAA

Tell me that's not the best you got. PLEASE!

 

[Derideo_Te]

Accupuncture is not a religion. It is an alternative medical treatment.

Chi flow is religion - pure and simple.

Sticking a needle in someone is a medical practice that is regulated by the FDA.

FDA Reclassifies Acupuncture Needles

 

[Uncensored2008]

McDonalds has a dress code!

ArkWorld has a faith code!

It's a fucking religious park.

The 1st Amendment does not apply in this instance because the government is not endorsing any specific religion. It is simply upholding the Constitutional requirement that you cannot discriminate on the basis of religion when it comes to hiring.

Prohibiting the park from hiring those who share the faith that is the foundation of the park is directly "infringing the free exercise."

The democrats are waging war on civil liberties, this is one of the battle grounds.

 

[Derideo_Te]

The government demanding employers to hire people who do not support the business model or the business plan is a bad idea. It's not going to work out well for anyone. I'm not talking legalisms - I'm talking common sense. So It's clear where I left some of you behind.

If you base your business plan/model on religious discrimination it is a bad plan/model.

I gather you were never admitted to any business school.

Ah, you attach a personal subjective "value" to a business plan and then try to insult someone else's intelligence for not agreeing?

yaaaaaawwwwwwnnnnnn

Nope, I am just pointing out that your lack of comprehension as to what makes for a sound business plan/model is so obvious that you patently don't have what it takes to make it in a business school.

Not my problem if the truth hurts.

Too funny - you want to assert that a "good" business model includes hiring people who do not support your business plan.

And THEN you wanna try to be arrogant about it.

BWWWAAAAAAAAHHHAAAAAAA

Tell me that's not the best you got. PLEASE!

That you are forced to lie about what I actually posted means that you have tacitly conceded that you cannot defend your position. Have a nice day.

 

[Derideo_Te]

McDonalds has a dress code!

ArkWorld has a faith code!

It's a fucking religious park.

The 1st Amendment does not apply in this instance because the government is not endorsing any specific religion. It is simply upholding the Constitutional requirement that you cannot discriminate on the basis of religion when it comes to hiring.

Prohibiting the park from hiring those who share the faith that is the foundation of the park is directly "infringing the free exercise."

The democrats are waging war on civil liberties, this is one of the battle grounds.

More idiotic drivel without any basis in actual Constitutional law.

Ark World is NOT a religious organization. It is a commercial theme park and therefore it falls under commercial law.

Unless you can prove the OP is wrong when the State is threatening to withhold tax rebates because of discrimination on the basis of religion you are just howling at the moon about "evil libruls" again.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Accupuncture is not a religion. It is an alternative medical treatment.

Chi flow is religion - pure and simple.

Sticking a needle in someone is a medical practice that is regulated by the FDA.

FDA Reclassifies Acupuncture Needles

Acupuncture is based on the flow of Chi, the mystical power of Buddhism.

It is absolutely a religious practice.

{Acupuncture meridians are called many names. These names includes Chinese meridians, energy meridians, and Chi meridians, just to name a few. These meridians carry the life force that vitalizes all life forms and allows them to flourish and grow. Different cultures call this life force by different names: Chi, subtle energy, Spirit, Prana and vital energy to name just a few}

Acupuncture Meridians Pathways of Chi Energy

I was a Buddhist in my younger years, before I figured out it was all bullshit.

 

[Uncensored2008]

More idiotic drivel without any basis in actual Constitutional law.

Ark World is NOT a religious organization. It is a commercial theme park and therefore it falls under commercial law.

Unless you can prove the OP is wrong when the State is threatening to withhold tax rebates because of discrimination on the basis of religion you are just howling at the moon about "evil libruls" again.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

Try again sparky.

You demand that the free exercise of religion be prohibited by law. You seek to revoke civil rights from those who have views contrary to your own.

IF the tax incentives are offered to similar ventures, then withholding them due to the religious nature of the park is a clear violation of the Constitution.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

The law is the Kentucky Revised Statutes, they weren't made by Congress.

IF the tax incentives are offered to similar ventures, then withholding them due to the religious nature of the park is a clear violation of the Constitution.

The incentives aren't being withheld because of the religious nature of the park, they were already offered with the religious nature of the park well known. They may be withdrawn, not because of the religious nature of the park, but because the park has elected to violate state employment law.


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[Derideo_Te]

More idiotic drivel without any basis in actual Constitutional law.

Ark World is NOT a religious organization. It is a commercial theme park and therefore it falls under commercial law.

Unless you can prove the OP is wrong when the State is threatening to withhold tax rebates because of discrimination on the basis of religion you are just howling at the moon about "evil libruls" again.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

Try again sparky.

You demand that the free exercise of religion be prohibited by law. You seek to revoke civil rights from those who have views contrary to your own.

IF the tax incentives are offered to similar ventures, then withholding them due to the religious nature of the park is a clear violation of the Constitution.

• Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (Title VII), which prohibits employment discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex, or national origin;

Ark World intends to violate the law and by doing so it will invalidate it's right to tax incentives because the State cannot endorse that discrimination by giving Ark World tax dollars.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The law is the Kentucky Revised Statutes, they weren't made by Congress.

IF the tax incentives are offered to similar ventures, then withholding them due to the religious nature of the park is a clear violation of the Constitution.

The incentives aren't being withheld because of the religious nature of the park, they were already offered with the religious nature of the park well known. They may be withdrawn, not because of the religious nature of the park, but because the park has elected to violate state employment law.


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The 14th amendment makes it irrelevant that this is Kentucky. Laws cannot be made by states which infringe civil rights.

State employment law that violates the United States Constitution, is null and void.

The left's war on civil rights continues.

 

[Uncensored2008]

• Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (Title VII), which prohibits employment discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex, or national origin;

Ark World intends to violate the law and by doing so it will invalidate it's right to tax incentives because the State cannot endorse that discrimination by giving Ark World tax dollars.

Title 7 does not revoke the Constitution. Despite what the party might hold.

 

[WorldWatcher]

• Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (Title VII), which prohibits employment discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex, or national origin;

Ark World intends to violate the law and by doing so it will invalidate it's right to tax incentives because the State cannot endorse that discrimination by giving Ark World tax dollars.

At this point Title VII isn't applicable as they haven't done the hiring yet. Title VII is Federal law.

On the other hand KRS 344.090 is Kentucky Law and impacts the ability to get the incentives up front.



Now once the park opens and people are actually refused jobs based based on not willing to sign a religious certificate of belief, then Title VII would kick in.

Just a difference in timing.


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[g5000]

If an atheist is stupid enough to want to work at a religiously-themed amusement park, let him/her. An atheist can sell hot dogs as well as any churchgoer. God's Meteor of Justice isn't going to strike the amusement park just because an atheist works there.

I think it would be fun times in the lunch room as all the other employees are singing hymns and waving their arms about, praising Jesus, while the atheist is trying to eat his cheese sandwich and wash it down with some bottled water and an antidepressant.

But if the atheist is a tour guide, and deviates from the script provided to him/her, or has a surly comportment, then that is grounds for dismissal.

On the flip side, if the amusement park makes the atheist wear a "I'm Going To Hell" T-shirt, then the atheist will have legal recourse and will probably end up owning the amusement park.

This isn't all that complicated.

 

[WorldWatcher]

The 14th amendment makes it irrelevant that this is Kentucky. Laws cannot be made by states which infringe civil rights.

So can we assume you are onboard with Same-sex Civil Marriage since equal treatment under the law is a Civil Right?


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[Carla_Danger]

So, to recap:
Can't use someone's Christian faith as a reason to not hire him? Totally fair.
Can't use someone's lack of Christian faith as a reason not to hire them? Totally unfair.

The law's a bitch when it's used against you.

So a Muslim church would be required to hire a Christian pastor?

Is he qualified to teach from the Quran?