Sen. Harry Reid Behind BLM Land Grab of Bundy Ranch

[boedicca]

This revelation has clearly had an impact on this. Most in Nevada aren't too happy with 'Dirty' Harry Reid right now. Just another dirty Reid real estate deal. Shame on him.

Indeed. And most Nevadans should question why the Feds own over 80% of the state's land. Such ownership just enables corrupt DC-crats.

 

[paulitician]

This revelation has clearly had an impact on this. Most in Nevada aren't too happy with 'Dirty' Harry Reid right now. Just another dirty Reid real estate deal. Shame on him.

Indeed. And most Nevadans should question why the Feds own over 80% of the state's land. Such ownership just enables corrupt DC-crats.

Not sure they can do anything about that. I'm afraid that ship has already sailed. Big Brother wants it all. And he'll kill anyone who gets in his way. That's the sad reality in this Police State.

 

[JimH52]

And now there are dozens of gun toting vigilantes there trying to bully the Feds

@JimH52

What?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhJ6H9vlEDA]Ranch Riot!! Bundy Ranch Protesters Tasered by Federal Agents and Attacked by K9's. - YouTube[/ame]

The people are doing their jobs. The rancher is breaking the law and has been for decades.

 

[JimH52]

So the vigilantes were blocking the road. How else do you get around them? They are carrying out a court order. Why are the vigilantes here?

 

[JimH52]

What land grab???? The land in question has never belonged to the Bundy family. The feds are clearing his cattle off of public land.

Who grabbed any land?

The government grabbed the land which was being used ranchers to produce the meat that goes on your table.

Ahhh! Another lie from a RWer! They never owned the land. This case has been through the courts. Bundy did not like the results so now he has called in vigilantes. Typical....

 

[Geaux4it]

So the vigilantes were blocking the road. How else do you get around them? They are carrying out a court order. Why are the vigilantes here?

We must deny unlawful orders

-Geaux

 

[Katzndogz]

When the government becomes the enemy only the Vigilante has any legitimacy.

The disgusting show of impotency should go around the world.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

What land grab???? The land in question has never belonged to the Bundy family. The feds are clearing his cattle off of public land.

Who grabbed any land?

The government grabbed the land which was being used ranchers to produce the meat that goes on your table.

Nope.

Why are some rw's on the side of theft from the public?

Why are some in favor of welfare ranching?

 

[buckeye45_73]

What land grab???? The land in question has never belonged to the Bundy family. The feds are clearing his cattle off of public land.

Who grabbed any land?

The government grabbed the land which was being used ranchers to produce the meat that goes on your table.

Nope.

Why are some rw's on the side of theft from the public?

Why are some in favor of welfare ranching?

Welfare ranching? Did he get a check?

Oh wait he was using public land? So if he was how is that a big deal?

So why not control the borders and stop mexican grazing? Its a far bigger problem

 

[JimH52]

Feds end roundup, release cattle after tense Nevada showdown - CNN.com

Simple, take him to court to collect the fees owed. Let the courts handle it. If he refused, put a lien on his multi-million dollar ranch.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

So the vigilantes were blocking the road. How else do you get around them? They are carrying out a court order. Why are the vigilantes here?

We must deny unlawful orders

-Geaux

EXACTLY what orders were unlawful?

He was trespassing. You DO know that, right?

 

[Luddly Neddite]

The government grabbed the land which was being used ranchers to produce the meat that goes on your table.

Nope.

Why are some rw's on the side of theft from the public?

Why are some in favor of welfare ranching?

Welfare ranching? Did he get a check?

Oh wait he was using public land? So if he was how is that a big deal?

So why not control the borders and stop mexican grazing? Its a far bigger problem

You need to educate yourself about where your taxes go.

Hint: Google welfare ranching.

But, that's okay because tax payers pay subsidies to all business owners, right? Like the mechanic down on the corner, the florist or the beauty salon ...

Oh wait, its not like those businesses are like churches or ranchers.

You fools get your pockets picked and don't even know where the money goes.

 

[Plasmaball]

It has nothing to do with his debt. It has everything to do with the federal pay to play green energy scheme.

Solar developers are paying millions of dollars to be able to set up their giant solar projects like Ivanpah.

Real deal. Gold Butte is part of a mitigation project. This is where for green energy the solar plant pays millions to wreck one part of the environment so that agencies like BLM can attempt to save another part of the environment. That's where his cattle are. Gold Butte according to the reports I've read.

Pay to play on a grand scale.

OR it has to do with his debt and ignoring a federal judge and stating that he doesnt believe in federal laws...

But hey lets go with the fucking nuts version right?

This is a federal renewable energy project link that I put up. It is not a conspiracy theory whatsoever.

Gold Butte is where the man has his cattle. Gold Butte is where the BLM is planning this project.

BLM have done this "mitigation" with Ivanpah as well. All these projects are going to be paying millions of dollars to the BLM and other agencies.

Only fools believe that the Federal Government would sent in 200 armed men and 9 helicopters and spend 3 million dollars minimum to collect on a 1 million dollar debt. ETA: the amount of the debt is in dispute.

The man hadnt paided his fee. End of story. Had he paid this would never have been a story.
You have nothing, Bundy's own words make him guilty.

 

[Plasmaball]

This revelation has clearly had an impact on this. Most in Nevada aren't too happy with 'Dirty' Harry Reid right now. Just another dirty Reid real estate deal. Shame on him.

Indeed. And most Nevadans should question why the Feds own over 80% of the state's land. Such ownership just enables corrupt DC-crats.

Not sure they can do anything about that. I'm afraid that ship has already sailed. Big Brother wants it all. And he'll kill anyone who gets in his way. That's the sad reality in this Police State.

they own it because they won it from the mexicans and paid for it. Perhaps you shouldnt insult the men who fought for it.

 

[JimH52]

It seem if someone is rich and affluent, such as a wealthy rancher or a corporation, the RW loons think it is okay for them to steal and to cheat. But if there is a single mom with three kids, she is scum for taking assistance each month.

The warped sense of justice on this Board is amazing!

 

[tinydancer]

OR it has to do with his debt and ignoring a federal judge and stating that he doesnt believe in federal laws...

But hey lets go with the fucking nuts version right?

This is a federal renewable energy project link that I put up. It is not a conspiracy theory whatsoever.

Gold Butte is where the man has his cattle. Gold Butte is where the BLM is planning this project.

BLM have done this "mitigation" with Ivanpah as well. All these projects are going to be paying millions of dollars to the BLM and other agencies.

Only fools believe that the Federal Government would sent in 200 armed men and 9 helicopters and spend 3 million dollars minimum to collect on a 1 million dollar debt. ETA: the amount of the debt is in dispute.

The man hadnt paided his fee. End of story. Had he paid this would never have been a story.
You have nothing, Bundy's own words make him guilty.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Just the federal collection army come to call. Spending 3 million dollars to collect a disputed debt of 1 million.

All my links are solid. No conspiracy theories. It's a true blue government program that is in the process of being implemented.

How the hell do you think the solar plants are springing up? Fairy dust?

Did Tinkerbell build Ivanpah? There are 18 to 19 at least planned now. Including the Chinese one that the Reid family have been involved with.

 

[RandallFlagg]

This is a federal renewable energy project link that I put up. It is not a conspiracy theory whatsoever.

Gold Butte is where the man has his cattle. Gold Butte is where the BLM is planning this project.

BLM have done this "mitigation" with Ivanpah as well. All these projects are going to be paying millions of dollars to the BLM and other agencies.

Only fools believe that the Federal Government would sent in 200 armed men and 9 helicopters and spend 3 million dollars minimum to collect on a 1 million dollar debt. ETA: the amount of the debt is in dispute.

The man hadnt paided his fee. End of story. Had he paid this would never have been a story.
You have nothing, Bundy's own words make him guilty.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Just the federal collection army come to call. Spending 3 million dollars to collect a disputed debt of 1 million.

All my links are solid. No conspiracy theories. It's a true blue government program that is in the process of being implemented.

How the hell do you think the solar plants are springing up? Fairy dust?

Did Tinkerbell build Ivanpah? There are 18 to 19 at least planned now. Including the Chinese one that the Reid family have been involved with.

U.S. Senator Reid, son combine for China firm's desert plant | Reuters


From 2012.

 

[JimH52]

Since your brought up foreign connections:

The Bush-Saudi Connection

 

[Plasmaball]

This is a federal renewable energy project link that I put up. It is not a conspiracy theory whatsoever.

Gold Butte is where the man has his cattle. Gold Butte is where the BLM is planning this project.

BLM have done this "mitigation" with Ivanpah as well. All these projects are going to be paying millions of dollars to the BLM and other agencies.

Only fools believe that the Federal Government would sent in 200 armed men and 9 helicopters and spend 3 million dollars minimum to collect on a 1 million dollar debt. ETA: the amount of the debt is in dispute.

The man hadnt paided his fee. End of story. Had he paid this would never have been a story.
You have nothing, Bundy's own words make him guilty.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Just the federal collection army come to call. Spending 3 million dollars to collect a disputed debt of 1 million.

All my links are solid. No conspiracy theories. It's a true blue government program that is in the process of being implemented.

How the hell do you think the solar plants are springing up? Fairy dust?

Did Tinkerbell build Ivanpah? There are 18 to 19 at least planned now. Including the Chinese one that the Reid family have been involved with.

no.

 

[Flopper]

Actually, it was designated by the government as a habitat for a land tortoise. They made off with 850 of his cattle and told him to get off, he protested. This is their own doing. And while the BLM was formed in 1946, for 47 years they made no issue with Bundy or his parents over the land in which he used to graze his cattle.

But it is funny how the government never made an issue of it in all that time.

You've got a few things confused, but you're on the right track.

1. The government didn't "make off" with any of his cattle. They changed how many they would allow him a permit for. No cattle of his have ever been removed, until last weekend.

2. For those 47 years, Bundy and his family paid their grazing fees - which is why the BLM left him alone. When the BLM changed the rules, he got mad, and decided to both stop paying his grazing fees, and ignore the limits to the number of cattle he could graze.

You don't get to ignore laws that you don't like - or rather, you can but you've got to face the consequences when they come due.

1. That's what we call making off with his cattle. Unless he sold them off himself. Nobody says what happened to those cattle when they capped his herd. Can you tell me what happened to the 850 cattle that he had to give up?

2. Before the formation of the BLM though, what was the deal? Who did the land belong to? It was managed by the defunct Civilian Conservation Corps. Prior to the formation of the CCC in 1933, ranching was commonplace in that area. So, as I see it, history is on his side. His family did in fact settle there and did ranch there long before the government stepped in.

The BLM dates back to the Northwest ordinance of 1787 when the 13 colonies ceded land to the federal government after the American Revolution.