Senate passes unanimous resolution avowing a free press

[kaz]

Pompous asshole Swamp Creatures passing more ridiculous useless legislation. Shame on em. Nuff said.

So now the entire Senate, republican and democrat alike, are 'swamp creatures'.....because they rebuked Trump on some of our most basic liberties?

Wow. Just....wow.

Yes, pompous useless Swamp Creature assholes. More meaningless legislation. They should be ashamed of themselves, be we know they aren't.

So you pretty much define your perception of the world by ignoring anyone - republican or democrat - who says anything contrary to what Trump tells you do believe.

Again, just.....wow.

The reality is, you like Democrat Fake News lies, because it's lies you've been indoctrinated to accept. In other words, you like the lies because it's lies you wanna hear. But regardless, it isn't credible News. It's just 24/7 Democrat opinion propaganda.

I follow the evidence. For example, NBC reported that Don Jr. had emails about his conversations setting up a meeting at Trump tower from 'high level sources' in the Russian government as part of Russia's efforts to help the Trump campaign.

Do you insist this was fake news?

NBC reported that Trump admitted that the purpose of the meeting was the get information on his political opponent. This after Trump insisted that the purpose of the meeting was to discuss adoption.

Which always sounded odd.....as why in the hell would his campaign chair attend an *adoption* meeting.

Do you insist this was fake news? Lets compare NBC with what you've been told to believe by Trump.

And yet again, Hillary actually buying information on her political opponent from the Russians is fine because you're a flaming hypocrite

 

[Skylar]

So now the entire Senate, republican and democrat alike, are 'swamp creatures'.....because they rebuked Trump on some of our most basic liberties?

Wow. Just....wow.

Yes, pompous useless Swamp Creature assholes. More meaningless legislation. They should be ashamed of themselves, be we know they aren't.

So you pretty much define your perception of the world by ignoring anyone - republican or democrat - who says anything contrary to what Trump tells you do believe.

Again, just.....wow.

The reality is, you like Democrat Fake News lies, because it's lies you've been indoctrinated to accept. In other words, you like the lies because it's lies you wanna hear. But regardless, it isn't credible News. It's just 24/7 Democrat opinion propaganda.

I follow the evidence. For example, NBC reported that Don Jr. had emails about his conversations setting up a meeting at Trump tower from 'high level sources' in the Russian government as part of Russia's efforts to help the Trump campaign.

Do you insist this was fake news?

NBC reported that Trump admitted that the purpose of the meeting was the get information on his political opponent. This after Trump insisted that the purpose of the meeting was to discuss adoption.

Which always sounded odd.....as why in the hell would his campaign chair attend an *adoption* meeting.

Do you insist this was fake news? Lets compare NBC with what you've been told to believe by Trump.

And yet again, Hillary actually buying information on her political opponent from the Russians is fine because you're a flaming hypocrite

And yet again, you've backpedaled so completely, that now you're not even *trying* to deny that Trump's campaign colluded with the Russians.

Which is convenient.....as neither is Mueller. Which is why his investigation will continue. With 8 felony convictions of Trump's former campaign manager. And 8 more felony guilty pleas from Michael Cohen, Trump's former personal lawyer.

 

[Cellblock2429]

'In a uniform decision Thursday, the U.S. Senate voted to "reaffirm the vital and indispensable role the free press serves."

Why it matters: The resolution comes on the heels of a nationwide push by hundreds of local and national newspapers to publish editorials standing up for the press in response to President Trump's claims the press is an "enemy of the people."'

Senate passes unanimous resolution avowing a free press

Good for the Senate.

/——/ 100% empty gesture by empty suits.

 

[dblack]

Nah. It's picking and choosing when you defend freedom. It's hypocrisy. But hey, the Republicans are no better. Lowest-common-denominator FTW.

Nah, hypocrisy is saying one thing and thinking something else.

Exactly. Like saying you care about Constitutional rights, but really it depends on who's getting the boot.

 

[whitehall]

If you read the 1st Amendment it seems that freedom of religion came before freedom of speech. To be fair and balanced the senate needs to avow freedom of religion and then go on to avow Amendment #2.

 

[BluesLegend]

When will the Senate pass a unanimous resolution to secure our southern border? I mean killed and raped American's by illegal invaders vs the press which is a higher priority?

 

[martybegan]

Dems have been bitching about "doing something" about Fox News for a decade now with nothing actually happening, where was your angst about that?

But that's exactly why this issue raises concerns. Previously, Republicans have, however meekly, pushed back against the Democrats' desire to socialize anything and everything. But now they're singing the same tune. Short-sighted political ambitions have Republicans talking about "near monopolies" and claiming that Facebook should be treated as a public utility.

I've always said that I worry the most when Democrats and Republicans agree.

I am actually if not a fan, a interested party in the treatment of things like facebook and twitter as a new form of a digital commons.

Those platforms avoid liability for the posts they show by saying "it's not our content". Well if that's the case 1st amendment protections for them are moot.

They were moot to begin with .....as the First Amendment limits government interference in speech. Not that of private companies or individuals.

And extending the 1st amendment to them via federal communications laws seems like not to big of a stretch to me.

It an enormous stretch. As it shifts the 'infringement' argument from the government, to all private citizens. Denying protestors the right to protest on private property would be a 'first amendment violation'.

If protesters wanted to hold a rally in say, your living room....you denying them access would be a violation of their rights.

It takes a right....a freedom from government infringement, and turns it into a power to COMPEL people to host speech that they disagree with or don't want to host.

Its a terrible idea.

I have to say, it's nice to see you actually standing up for individual freedom. It'll be fun to quote these posts when you switch sides again.

I defend rights. I just don't subscribe to your anarcho-libertarian extremes. Its all a matter of degrees.

Nah, you only "defend" rights you agree with.

 

[martybegan]

I disagree as long as it is narrowly constructed to certain parameters, i.e. social media sites that claim to be "open forums" and avoid liability for content via saying "it's not ours, it's theirs"

Of course..... we are so fucked.

I understand your position as an absolutist on this, however the problem is platforms like twitter and facebook are so ubiquitous in the digital age that allowing them to pick and choose what positions they will allow on their platform is basically allowing them to shape viewpoints on those positions.

Wonderful. This is the standard socialist line. Have you been in touch with Bernie?

Wow, that's a fucking retarded statement.

Absolutists are the most annoying type of people on either side of the aisle.

Both "sides of the aisle" agree. Strap in!

And while you cling to your principles social media gets to silence anyone to the right of Mitt Romney.

Good luck winning elections after that happens.

 

[dblack]

And while you cling to your principles social media gets to silence anyone to the right of Mitt Romney.

Yes. They get to "silence" anyone using their service. Just like any other media. This isn't controversial. Should we nationalize them?

 

[martybegan]

And while you cling to your principles social media gets to silence anyone to the right of Mitt Romney.

Yes. They get to "silence" anyone using their service. Just like any other media. This isn't controversial. Should we nationalize them?

It isn't nationalizing them,. stop being a drama queen.

 

[Slyhunter]

'In a uniform decision Thursday, the U.S. Senate voted to "reaffirm the vital and indispensable role the free press serves."

Why it matters: The resolution comes on the heels of a nationwide push by hundreds of local and national newspapers to publish editorials standing up for the press in response to President Trump's claims the press is an "enemy of the people."'

Senate passes unanimous resolution avowing a free press

Good for the Senate.

Virtue signaling, nothing more.

When the President's people are 'signalling' that Truth isn't Truth....such a resolution becomes a might bit more.

The fact that such a resolution of basic constitutional principles is necessary today is yet another in an endless swamp of fetid demonstrations of the depth and severity of the corruption of this president.

How is he violating the constitution by bashing a press that bashes him?

He's already had his people float the idea that the President should have the power to shutdown any news agency the president deems is propagating 'fake news'.

With a full 43% of republicans polled supporting empowering the President to shut down any news agency that is engaged in 'bad behavior'.

Resolutions such as those passed by the Senate are necessary due to the loathsome and rampant corruption of the President and how eager many republicans are to grant the President unprecedented powers to attack the press.

Until something actual happens it's nothing but words, and no constitutional violation. Dems have been bitching about "doing something" about Fox News for a decade now with nothing actually happening, where was your angst about that?

And you keep using the word corruption without any evidence of actual corruption.

How about you just say you don't like him or his policies? Why do you feel the need to create figments of criminal acts via the word corruption?

The Press is supposed to be the watchdog of the American people. We need a Watchdog to make sure their doing their jobs and not simply pushing a Liberal agenda.

 

[FA_Q2]

'In a uniform decision Thursday, the U.S. Senate voted to "reaffirm the vital and indispensable role the free press serves."

Why it matters: The resolution comes on the heels of a nationwide push by hundreds of local and national newspapers to publish editorials standing up for the press in response to President Trump's claims the press is an "enemy of the people."'

Senate passes unanimous resolution avowing a free press

Good for the Senate.

Virtue signaling, nothing more.

When the President's people are 'signalling' that Truth isn't Truth....such a resolution becomes a might bit more.

The fact that such a resolution of basic constitutional principles is necessary today is yet another in an endless swamp of fetid demonstrations of the depth and severity of the corruption of this president.

How is he violating the constitution by bashing a press that bashes him?

He's already had his people float the idea that the President should have the power to shutdown any news agency the president deems is propagating 'fake news'.

With a full 43% of republicans polled supporting empowering the President to shut down any news agency that is engaged in 'bad behavior'.

Resolutions such as those passed by the Senate are necessary due to the loathsome and rampant corruption of the President and how eager many republicans are to grant the President unprecedented powers to attack the press.

No, they are not necessary because they do nothing at all. What is necessary is for the senate to actually pass law if they see a problem.

 

[FA_Q2]

Virtue signaling, nothing more.

When the President's people are 'signalling' that Truth isn't Truth....such a resolution becomes a might bit more.

The fact that such a resolution of basic constitutional principles is necessary today is yet another in an endless swamp of fetid demonstrations of the depth and severity of the corruption of this president.

How is he violating the constitution by bashing a press that bashes him?

He's already had his people float the idea that the President should have the power to shutdown any news agency the president deems is propagating 'fake news'.

With a full 43% of republicans polled supporting empowering the President to shut down any news agency that is engaged in 'bad behavior'.

Resolutions such as those passed by the Senate are necessary due to the loathsome and rampant corruption of the President and how eager many republicans are to grant the President unprecedented powers to attack the press.

Until something actual happens it's nothing but words, and no constitutional violation. Dems have been bitching about "doing something" about Fox News for a decade now with nothing actually happening, where was your angst about that?

And you keep using the word corruption without any evidence of actual corruption.

This administration is so corrupt the president's lawyers need lawyers a this point.

His campaign is under criminal investigation by the Justice Department for collusion with Russia...which the President admitted to. Trump himself is reluctant to testify for fear he will perjure himself. His former Campaign chair is on trial as we speak, his deputy campaign chair has plead guilty to numerous crimes, with his former foreign policy adviser and national security adviser.

Trump's own son was recorded by Spanish authorities arranging a meeting with Russian Intelligence Handler Alexander Torshin during the campaign. The same son that arranged a meeting with a Russian operative in Trump Tower, after being told that the information he would receive was part of the Russian government's efforts to aid Trump.

And Cohen, Trump's former lawyer (a man who just arranged his own plea deal with the FBI) admitting that Trump was fully aware of the meeting. A meeting Trump has lied about repeatedly, has compelled others to lie by personally dictating a statement on the meeting filled with lies, with Trump trying to shut down the investigation into the meeting between an operative from Russia and his own campaign.

The level of corruption in this campaign and administration are unprecedented.

But you ignore all this. A rational person wouldn't. And Mueller certainly won't.

WTF does that have to do with the senate resolution?

That is another topic altogether - one that is already in a dozen other threads.

 

[Flopper]

Virtue signaling, nothing more.

When the President's people are 'signalling' that Truth isn't Truth....such a resolution becomes a might bit more.

The fact that such a resolution of basic constitutional principles is necessary today is yet another in an endless swamp of fetid demonstrations of the depth and severity of the corruption of this president.

How is he violating the constitution by bashing a press that bashes him?

He's already had his people float the idea that the President should have the power to shutdown any news agency the president deems is propagating 'fake news'.

With a full 43% of republicans polled supporting empowering the President to shut down any news agency that is engaged in 'bad behavior'.

Resolutions such as those passed by the Senate are necessary due to the loathsome and rampant corruption of the President and how eager many republicans are to grant the President unprecedented powers to attack the press.

Until something actual happens it's nothing but words, and no constitutional violation. Dems have been bitching about "doing something" about Fox News for a decade now with nothing actually happening, where was your angst about that?

And you keep using the word corruption without any evidence of actual corruption.

How about you just say you don't like him or his policies? Why do you feel the need to create figments of criminal acts via the word corruption?

The Press is supposed to be the watchdog of the American people. We need a Watchdog to make sure their doing their jobs and not simply pushing a Liberal agenda.

You got them. It's called Fox News plus a dozen talk radio hosts and dozens of other conservative media outlets.

 

[dblack]

The Press is supposed to be the watchdog of the American people. We need a Watchdog to make sure their doing their jobs and not simply pushing a Liberal agenda.

What do you have in mind? Do you mean like snopes or something?

 

[martybegan]

When the President's people are 'signalling' that Truth isn't Truth....such a resolution becomes a might bit more.

The fact that such a resolution of basic constitutional principles is necessary today is yet another in an endless swamp of fetid demonstrations of the depth and severity of the corruption of this president.

How is he violating the constitution by bashing a press that bashes him?

He's already had his people float the idea that the President should have the power to shutdown any news agency the president deems is propagating 'fake news'.

With a full 43% of republicans polled supporting empowering the President to shut down any news agency that is engaged in 'bad behavior'.

Resolutions such as those passed by the Senate are necessary due to the loathsome and rampant corruption of the President and how eager many republicans are to grant the President unprecedented powers to attack the press.

Until something actual happens it's nothing but words, and no constitutional violation. Dems have been bitching about "doing something" about Fox News for a decade now with nothing actually happening, where was your angst about that?

And you keep using the word corruption without any evidence of actual corruption.

How about you just say you don't like him or his policies? Why do you feel the need to create figments of criminal acts via the word corruption?

The Press is supposed to be the watchdog of the American people. We need a Watchdog to make sure their doing their jobs and not simply pushing a Liberal agenda.

You got them. It's called Fox News plus a dozen talk radio hosts and dozens of other conservative media outlets.

A small pond in a series of reservoirs.

 

[Skylar]

When the President's people are 'signalling' that Truth isn't Truth....such a resolution becomes a might bit more.

The fact that such a resolution of basic constitutional principles is necessary today is yet another in an endless swamp of fetid demonstrations of the depth and severity of the corruption of this president.

How is he violating the constitution by bashing a press that bashes him?

He's already had his people float the idea that the President should have the power to shutdown any news agency the president deems is propagating 'fake news'.

With a full 43% of republicans polled supporting empowering the President to shut down any news agency that is engaged in 'bad behavior'.

Resolutions such as those passed by the Senate are necessary due to the loathsome and rampant corruption of the President and how eager many republicans are to grant the President unprecedented powers to attack the press.

Until something actual happens it's nothing but words, and no constitutional violation. Dems have been bitching about "doing something" about Fox News for a decade now with nothing actually happening, where was your angst about that?

And you keep using the word corruption without any evidence of actual corruption.

This administration is so corrupt the president's lawyers need lawyers a this point.

His campaign is under criminal investigation by the Justice Department for collusion with Russia...which the President admitted to. Trump himself is reluctant to testify for fear he will perjure himself. His former Campaign chair is on trial as we speak, his deputy campaign chair has plead guilty to numerous crimes, with his former foreign policy adviser and national security adviser.

Trump's own son was recorded by Spanish authorities arranging a meeting with Russian Intelligence Handler Alexander Torshin during the campaign. The same son that arranged a meeting with a Russian operative in Trump Tower, after being told that the information he would receive was part of the Russian government's efforts to aid Trump.

And Cohen, Trump's former lawyer (a man who just arranged his own plea deal with the FBI) admitting that Trump was fully aware of the meeting. A meeting Trump has lied about repeatedly, has compelled others to lie by personally dictating a statement on the meeting filled with lies, with Trump trying to shut down the investigation into the meeting between an operative from Russia and his own campaign.

The level of corruption in this campaign and administration are unprecedented.

But you ignore all this. A rational person wouldn't. And Mueller certainly won't.

WTF does that have to do with the senate resolution?

That is another topic altogether - one that is already in a dozen other threads.

Simple: I'm arguing that the president is so rampantly corrupt that the senate found it necessary to pass a resolution reaffirming our most basic freedoms.

I don't expect it to be the last...especially after this corrupt president just told the Attorney General to investigate his political enemies.

 

[Skylar]

Virtue signaling, nothing more.

When the President's people are 'signalling' that Truth isn't Truth....such a resolution becomes a might bit more.

The fact that such a resolution of basic constitutional principles is necessary today is yet another in an endless swamp of fetid demonstrations of the depth and severity of the corruption of this president.

How is he violating the constitution by bashing a press that bashes him?

He's already had his people float the idea that the President should have the power to shutdown any news agency the president deems is propagating 'fake news'.

With a full 43% of republicans polled supporting empowering the President to shut down any news agency that is engaged in 'bad behavior'.

Resolutions such as those passed by the Senate are necessary due to the loathsome and rampant corruption of the President and how eager many republicans are to grant the President unprecedented powers to attack the press.

Until something actual happens it's nothing but words, and no constitutional violation. Dems have been bitching about "doing something" about Fox News for a decade now with nothing actually happening, where was your angst about that?

And you keep using the word corruption without any evidence of actual corruption.

How about you just say you don't like him or his policies? Why do you feel the need to create figments of criminal acts via the word corruption?

The Press is supposed to be the watchdog of the American people. We need a Watchdog to make sure their doing their jobs and not simply pushing a Liberal agenda.

Holding the President accountable for his corruption, lies, and crimes by reporting on them isn't a 'liberal' agenda.

Its an American one.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Alex Jones isn’t a reporter and is not an member of the press. He is an actor, an entertainer and a provocateur.

You sound like trump describing a journalist.

 

[Skylar]

Alex Jones isn’t a reporter and is not an member of the press. He is an actor, an entertainer and a provocateur.

You sound like trump describing a journalist.

Or Jones describing himself.