Serious questions for Trump supporters regarding this impeachment thing

Failed impeachment shows everyone the democrats are ONLY concerned with POLITICAL POWER. Nothing is even second

Impeachment is assured. Conviction is problematic - as everyone knows Moscow Mitch and his band of dirt bags put their jobs first, their party second and securing "donations" from the special interests third. They got theirs, and fuck the rest of us.

You mean like the
  • $145,000,000 the Clinton "Foundation" secured by selling our uranium to the Russians, or
  • $600,000 annual benefits Biden's son secured from the Ukrainian gas company, or
  • $1.5B Kerry and the Bidens secured from the ChiComs?

The Clinton's and Kerry are no longer government employees. The same can be said for the Bidens. Is Rudy? He's the one which needs to be investigated, the Clinton's and Kerry have been vetted, very unfairly by people like you, and found to have done nothing wrong.
 
Failed impeachment shows everyone the democrats are ONLY concerned with POLITICAL POWER. Nothing is even second

Impeachment is assured. Conviction is problematic - as everyone knows Moscow Mitch and his band of dirt bags put their jobs first, their party second and securing "donations" from the special interests third. They got theirs, and fuck the rest of us.

You mean like the
  • $145,000,000 the Clinton "Foundation" secured by selling our uranium to the Russians, or
  • $600,000 annual benefits Biden's son secured from the Ukrainian gas company, or
  • $1.5B Kerry and the Bidens secured from the ChiComs?

The Clinton's and Kerry are no longer government employees. The same can be said for the Bidens. Is Rudy? He's the one which needs to be investigated, the Clinton's and Kerry have been vetted, very unfairly by people like you, and found to have done nothing wrong.
that's some funny ass shit man. say your guys can't be investigated cause they ain't gov employees then say rudy should be.

you even read the shit you say first?
 
Failed impeachment shows everyone the democrats are ONLY concerned with POLITICAL POWER. Nothing is even second

Impeachment is assured. Conviction is problematic - as everyone knows Moscow Mitch and his band of dirt bags put their jobs first, their party second and securing "donations" from the special interests third. They got theirs, and fuck the rest of us.

You mean like the
  • $145,000,000 the Clinton "Foundation" secured by selling our uranium to the Russians, or
  • $600,000 annual benefits Biden's son secured from the Ukrainian gas company, or
  • $1.5B Kerry and the Bidens secured from the ChiComs?

Why did the Clinton Foundation have control of our uranium? That seems a bit odd.
SecState Hillary wanted $150,000,000 for not quashing the deal, so Putin donated $145,000,000 to her "Foundation" and also gave her a $5,000,000 Bitcoin wallet

SecState Hillary did not have the power to quash the deal, she was just one of a dozen votes, none of which had the power to stop the deal.

LOLz

...and that's how Putin and the now hated Russians got control of 20% of our uranium
Failed impeachment shows everyone the democrats are ONLY concerned with POLITICAL POWER. Nothing is even second

Impeachment is assured. Conviction is problematic - as everyone knows Moscow Mitch and his band of dirt bags put their jobs first, their party second and securing "donations" from the special interests third. They got theirs, and fuck the rest of us.

You mean like the
  • $145,000,000 the Clinton "Foundation" secured by selling our uranium to the Russians, or
  • $600,000 annual benefits Biden's son secured from the Ukrainian gas company, or
  • $1.5B Kerry and the Bidens secured from the ChiComs?

The Clinton's and Kerry are no longer government employees. The same can be said for the Bidens. Is Rudy? He's the one which needs to be investigated, the Clinton's and Kerry have been vetted, very unfairly by people like you, and found to have done nothing wrong.

Wait, so you're saying "they got away with it!" in defense of Hillary and Biden's criminal activity?
 
I wish somebody would do a study to see how much of their time the Democrats have spent talking or trying to figure out ways to get rid of Trump since they took leadership of Congress. Because I think Americans are getting very disgusted with their antics already.

Wrong. As usual.

Let's take a look at the 2018 midterm election results. In 2018, Democrats saw a record 70% increase in their vote totals compared to the last midterm election. The numbers indicate that Americans are getting disgusted with Trump's antics.

But those are just numbers. You know, facts. I'm sure you have some really compelling factual data that you'll provide for us to validate your non-biased position.

The numbers are facts.

Your conclusion about American's getting disgusted are unsupported.

There are a huge number of reasons the increase could have taken place (or did you fail to leave that data out).

Suggest you look in the mirror when lecturing others about non-biased positions (or conclusions).
 
Failed impeachment shows everyone the democrats are ONLY concerned with POLITICAL POWER. Nothing is even second

Impeachment is assured. Conviction is problematic - as everyone knows Moscow Mitch and his band of dirt bags put their jobs first, their party second and securing "donations" from the special interests third. They got theirs, and fuck the rest of us.

You mean like the
  • $145,000,000 the Clinton "Foundation" secured by selling our uranium to the Russians, or
  • $600,000 annual benefits Biden's son secured from the Ukrainian gas company, or
  • $1.5B Kerry and the Bidens secured from the ChiComs?

The Clinton's and Kerry are no longer government employees. The same can be said for the Bidens. Is Rudy? He's the one which needs to be investigated, the Clinton's and Kerry have been vetted, very unfairly by people like you, and found to have done nothing wrong.
that's some funny ass shit man. say your guys can't be investigated cause they ain't gov employees then say rudy should be.

you even read the shit you say first?

The more you post, the more your biases cloud your thinking. Was Rudy on the payroll? And who is paying him should be the first item to be investigated.

If he is Trump's attorney, he's not a government employee, yet he claimed he was an emissary, and that needs to be vetted.

As for Clinton and Kerry, they are yesterday. Do you want us to become more of a banana republic and go back to investigate Truman for using the second A-Bomb, or IKE for not supporting the French which created the Domino Theory? How about investigating Gingrich and other members of the H. or Rep. whose illicit sexual activities were worse than Clinton's lie (a lie most husbands would have told) and later left in shame (f'n hypocrites got what they deserved).
 
Failed impeachment shows everyone the democrats are ONLY concerned with POLITICAL POWER. Nothing is even second

Impeachment is assured. Conviction is problematic - as everyone knows Moscow Mitch and his band of dirt bags put their jobs first, their party second and securing "donations" from the special interests third. They got theirs, and fuck the rest of us.

You mean like the
  • $145,000,000 the Clinton "Foundation" secured by selling our uranium to the Russians, or
  • $600,000 annual benefits Biden's son secured from the Ukrainian gas company, or
  • $1.5B Kerry and the Bidens secured from the ChiComs?

The Clinton's and Kerry are no longer government employees. The same can be said for the Bidens. Is Rudy? He's the one which needs to be investigated, the Clinton's and Kerry have been vetted, very unfairly by people like you, and found to have done nothing wrong.
that's some funny ass shit man. say your guys can't be investigated cause they ain't gov employees then say rudy should be.

you even read the shit you say first?

The more you post, the more your biases cloud your thinking. Was Rudy on the payroll? And who is paying him should be the first item to be investigated.

If he is Trump's attorney, he's not a government employee, yet he claimed he was an emissary, and that needs to be vetted.

As for Clinton and Kerry, they are yesterday. Do you want us to become more of a banana republic and go back to investigate Truman for using the second A-Bomb, or IKE for not supporting the French which created the Domino Theory? How about investigating Gingrich and other members of the H. or Rep. whose illicit sexual activities were worse than Clinton's lie (a lie most husbands would have told) and later left in shame (f'n hypocrites got what they deserved).

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Whatever you say, Komrade Wry
 
Failed impeachment shows everyone the democrats are ONLY concerned with POLITICAL POWER. Nothing is even second

Impeachment is assured. Conviction is problematic - as everyone knows Moscow Mitch and his band of dirt bags put their jobs first, their party second and securing "donations" from the special interests third. They got theirs, and fuck the rest of us.

You mean like the
  • $145,000,000 the Clinton "Foundation" secured by selling our uranium to the Russians, or
  • $600,000 annual benefits Biden's son secured from the Ukrainian gas company, or
  • $1.5B Kerry and the Bidens secured from the ChiComs?

The Clinton's and Kerry are no longer government employees. The same can be said for the Bidens. Is Rudy? He's the one which needs to be investigated, the Clinton's and Kerry have been vetted, very unfairly by people like you, and found to have done nothing wrong.
that's some funny ass shit man. say your guys can't be investigated cause they ain't gov employees then say rudy should be.

you even read the shit you say first?

The more you post, the more your biases cloud your thinking. Was Rudy on the payroll? And who is paying him should be the first item to be investigated.

If he is Trump's attorney, he's not a government employee, yet he claimed he was an emissary, and that needs to be vetted.

As for Clinton and Kerry, they are yesterday. Do you want us to become more of a banana republic and go back to investigate Truman for using the second A-Bomb, or IKE for not supporting the French which created the Domino Theory? How about investigating Gingrich and other members of the H. or Rep. whose illicit sexual activities were worse than Clinton's lie (a lie most husbands would have told) and later left in shame (f'n hypocrites got what they deserved).
you seem to let your grandstanding get in the way of people knowing your'e full of shit.

you claim kerry and clinton are no longer gov employees and the investigations or concern should stop. then you rail on rudy. hey - rudy is an idiot so rail away. but he's NOT a gov employee either, yet somehow he's worthy of bypassing the very rules of engagement you just cited so you can rag on him in the same manner people rag on clinton / kerry that you seem to have issue with.

THAT is "hypocritical" so you should be mad at yourself now.
 
Failed impeachment shows everyone the democrats are ONLY concerned with POLITICAL POWER. Nothing is even second

Impeachment is assured. Conviction is problematic - as everyone knows Moscow Mitch and his band of dirt bags put their jobs first, their party second and securing "donations" from the special interests third. They got theirs, and fuck the rest of us.

You mean like the
  • $145,000,000 the Clinton "Foundation" secured by selling our uranium to the Russians, or
  • $600,000 annual benefits Biden's son secured from the Ukrainian gas company, or
  • $1.5B Kerry and the Bidens secured from the ChiComs?

The Clinton's and Kerry are no longer government employees. The same can be said for the Bidens. Is Rudy? He's the one which needs to be investigated, the Clinton's and Kerry have been vetted, very unfairly by people like you, and found to have done nothing wrong.
that's some funny ass shit man. say your guys can't be investigated cause they ain't gov employees then say rudy should be.

you even read the shit you say first?

The more you post, the more your biases cloud your thinking. Was Rudy on the payroll? And who is paying him should be the first item to be investigated.

If he is Trump's attorney, he's not a government employee, yet he claimed he was an emissary, and that needs to be vetted.

As for Clinton and Kerry, they are yesterday. Do you want us to become more of a banana republic and go back to investigate Truman for using the second A-Bomb, or IKE for not supporting the French which created the Domino Theory? How about investigating Gingrich and other members of the H. or Rep. whose illicit sexual activities were worse than Clinton's lie (a lie most husbands would have told) and later left in shame (f'n hypocrites got what they deserved).

It's not like Quid Pro Joe "Emoluments Clause" Biden is running for office, is it?

That's what he did as VP when he had to ask Obama for permission, can you imagine unfiltered Joe?
 
Failed impeachment shows everyone the democrats are ONLY concerned with POLITICAL POWER. Nothing is even second

Impeachment is assured. Conviction is problematic - as everyone knows Moscow Mitch and his band of dirt bags put their jobs first, their party second and securing "donations" from the special interests third. They got theirs, and fuck the rest of us.

You mean like the
  • $145,000,000 the Clinton "Foundation" secured by selling our uranium to the Russians, or
  • $600,000 annual benefits Biden's son secured from the Ukrainian gas company, or
  • $1.5B Kerry and the Bidens secured from the ChiComs?

Why did the Clinton Foundation have control of our uranium? That seems a bit odd.
SecState Hillary wanted $150,000,000 for not quashing the deal, so Putin donated $145,000,000 to her "Foundation" and also gave her a $5,000,000 Bitcoin wallet

SecState Hillary did not have the power to quash the deal, she was just one of a dozen votes, none of which had the power to stop the deal.

I know; Frank knows too but in Frank's case, having no real dirt to post, he's digs up what has been investigated and dismissed as unwarranted.

It's what the reactionary far right wing does, telling BIG LIES with no validity; biddable fools, and damn liars continue to echo the same bullshit ad nausea.
 
Impeachment is assured. Conviction is problematic - as everyone knows Moscow Mitch and his band of dirt bags put their jobs first, their party second and securing "donations" from the special interests third. They got theirs, and fuck the rest of us.

You mean like the
  • $145,000,000 the Clinton "Foundation" secured by selling our uranium to the Russians, or
  • $600,000 annual benefits Biden's son secured from the Ukrainian gas company, or
  • $1.5B Kerry and the Bidens secured from the ChiComs?

The Clinton's and Kerry are no longer government employees. The same can be said for the Bidens. Is Rudy? He's the one which needs to be investigated, the Clinton's and Kerry have been vetted, very unfairly by people like you, and found to have done nothing wrong.
that's some funny ass shit man. say your guys can't be investigated cause they ain't gov employees then say rudy should be.

you even read the shit you say first?

The more you post, the more your biases cloud your thinking. Was Rudy on the payroll? And who is paying him should be the first item to be investigated.

If he is Trump's attorney, he's not a government employee, yet he claimed he was an emissary, and that needs to be vetted.

As for Clinton and Kerry, they are yesterday. Do you want us to become more of a banana republic and go back to investigate Truman for using the second A-Bomb, or IKE for not supporting the French which created the Domino Theory? How about investigating Gingrich and other members of the H. or Rep. whose illicit sexual activities were worse than Clinton's lie (a lie most husbands would have told) and later left in shame (f'n hypocrites got what they deserved).
you seem to let your grandstanding get in the way of people knowing your'e full of shit.

you claim kerry and clinton are no longer gov employees and the investigations or concern should stop. then you rail on rudy. hey - rudy is an idiot so rail away. but he's NOT a gov employee either, yet somehow he's worthy of bypassing the very rules of engagement you just cited so you can rag on him in the same manner people rag on clinton / kerry that you seem to have issue with.

THAT is "hypocritical" so you should be mad at yourself now.

How do YOU know he's not on the government payroll? And if he isn't he's a lobbyist, and a lobbyist doing work with the Fed. Gov't must register with The Congress and the Sect. of State.
 
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Impeachment is assured. Conviction is problematic - as everyone knows Moscow Mitch and his band of dirt bags put their jobs first, their party second and securing "donations" from the special interests third. They got theirs, and fuck the rest of us.

You mean like the
  • $145,000,000 the Clinton "Foundation" secured by selling our uranium to the Russians, or
  • $600,000 annual benefits Biden's son secured from the Ukrainian gas company, or
  • $1.5B Kerry and the Bidens secured from the ChiComs?

The Clinton's and Kerry are no longer government employees. The same can be said for the Bidens. Is Rudy? He's the one which needs to be investigated, the Clinton's and Kerry have been vetted, very unfairly by people like you, and found to have done nothing wrong.
that's some funny ass shit man. say your guys can't be investigated cause they ain't gov employees then say rudy should be.

you even read the shit you say first?

The more you post, the more your biases cloud your thinking. Was Rudy on the payroll? And who is paying him should be the first item to be investigated.

If he is Trump's attorney, he's not a government employee, yet he claimed he was an emissary, and that needs to be vetted.

As for Clinton and Kerry, they are yesterday. Do you want us to become more of a banana republic and go back to investigate Truman for using the second A-Bomb, or IKE for not supporting the French which created the Domino Theory? How about investigating Gingrich and other members of the H. or Rep. whose illicit sexual activities were worse than Clinton's lie (a lie most husbands would have told) and later left in shame (f'n hypocrites got what they deserved).
you seem to let your grandstanding get in the way of people knowing your'e full of shit.

you claim kerry and clinton are no longer gov employees and the investigations or concern should stop. then you rail on rudy. hey - rudy is an idiot so rail away. but he's NOT a gov employee either, yet somehow he's worthy of bypassing the very rules of engagement you just cited so you can rag on him in the same manner people rag on clinton / kerry that you seem to have issue with.

THAT is "hypocritical" so you should be mad at yourself now.

Remember it's not a crime when a democrat does it
 
Not a Republican or rightist but I have some thoughts. First, Joe's tape looks damning but there was a move afoot to get rid of the prosecutor, so Joe used the leverage he had. Not illegal. Second, Trump is supposed to investigate corruption because he is head of the justice department-which is what the transcript shows him doing. Not illegal. Both men are innocent of any crime and should not be pestered by the press. The biggest problem I have is the language Trump uses to push his position-it is too rough and non-specific.
The problem I see is that Trump had access to tools that were both legal and above board for investigating corruption (such as the DOJ) but he didn’t use them. Instead he used his personal lawyer.

That, in my opinion, does not look good.
You may be right, we will find out.
Trump is different, and that's why people voted him into power. The main thing is that if no Quid pro quo was involved, then his methods aren't impeachable nor criminal, just different.
What do you mean he is “different”? He is NOT above the law.
That's the issue-legality

Agree. And that is why there needs to be an investigation.
 
The problem I see is that Trump had access to tools that were both legal and above board for investigating corruption (such as the DOJ) but he didn’t use them. Instead he used his personal lawyer.

That, in my opinion, does not look good.
You may be right, we will find out.
Trump is different, and that's why people voted him into power. The main thing is that if no Quid pro quo was involved, then his methods aren't impeachable nor criminal, just different.
What do you mean he is “different”? He is NOT above the law.
That's the issue-legality

Agree. And that is why there needs to be an investigation.
except now the mantra is no crime is needed, just think he's below the standards for the office.

it really does come across as "any port in a storm" and not an honest effort to address "wrongdoing".
 
You may be right, we will find out.
Trump is different, and that's why people voted him into power. The main thing is that if no Quid pro quo was involved, then his methods aren't impeachable nor criminal, just different.
What do you mean he is “different”? He is NOT above the law.
That's the issue-legality

Agree. And that is why there needs to be an investigation.
except now the mantra is no crime is needed, just think he's below the standards for the office.

it really does come across as "any port in a storm" and not an honest effort to address "wrongdoing".

I don't agree. An impeachment inquiry isn't necessarily going to benefit the Dems - Pelosi was doing a good job keeping the reins on that and I agreed with it - whether it was Clinton, Bush, Obama, or Trump the calls for impeachment were used more for partisan political purposes than serious crimes (Congress can always choose to censure). I think this one was a bridge to far and NOT starting an inquiry even though it might hurt the Dems would have been a derelection of duty.

Trump was refusing to pass on the whistle blower report which should not have gone to him in the first place and he had no legal right to hold and the contents are seriously concerning imo. The inquiry will allow them to get documents and subpeona witnesses expeditiously and this will hopefully become transparent and settled one way or the other quickly.
 
You mean like the
  • $145,000,000 the Clinton "Foundation" secured by selling our uranium to the Russians, or
  • $600,000 annual benefits Biden's son secured from the Ukrainian gas company, or
  • $1.5B Kerry and the Bidens secured from the ChiComs?

The Clinton's and Kerry are no longer government employees. The same can be said for the Bidens. Is Rudy? He's the one which needs to be investigated, the Clinton's and Kerry have been vetted, very unfairly by people like you, and found to have done nothing wrong.
that's some funny ass shit man. say your guys can't be investigated cause they ain't gov employees then say rudy should be.

you even read the shit you say first?

The more you post, the more your biases cloud your thinking. Was Rudy on the payroll? And who is paying him should be the first item to be investigated.

If he is Trump's attorney, he's not a government employee, yet he claimed he was an emissary, and that needs to be vetted.

As for Clinton and Kerry, they are yesterday. Do you want us to become more of a banana republic and go back to investigate Truman for using the second A-Bomb, or IKE for not supporting the French which created the Domino Theory? How about investigating Gingrich and other members of the H. or Rep. whose illicit sexual activities were worse than Clinton's lie (a lie most husbands would have told) and later left in shame (f'n hypocrites got what they deserved).
you seem to let your grandstanding get in the way of people knowing your'e full of shit.

you claim kerry and clinton are no longer gov employees and the investigations or concern should stop. then you rail on rudy. hey - rudy is an idiot so rail away. but he's NOT a gov employee either, yet somehow he's worthy of bypassing the very rules of engagement you just cited so you can rag on him in the same manner people rag on clinton / kerry that you seem to have issue with.

THAT is "hypocritical" so you should be mad at yourself now.

Remember it's not a crime when a democrat does it

Q. Aren't we all democrats?

A. All patriots are, some are Republicans, some are Libertarian's, some are Democrats and some belong to other political parties.

Of course then their is trump and his sycophants (like Frank) who hate democracy and want Big Brother to govern unabated by the people, or even a Constitution, a Judiciary or a Congress. The autocrat keeps the monsters away, isn't that what you pray for Frank?
 
The Clinton's and Kerry are no longer government employees. The same can be said for the Bidens. Is Rudy? He's the one which needs to be investigated, the Clinton's and Kerry have been vetted, very unfairly by people like you, and found to have done nothing wrong.
that's some funny ass shit man. say your guys can't be investigated cause they ain't gov employees then say rudy should be.

you even read the shit you say first?

The more you post, the more your biases cloud your thinking. Was Rudy on the payroll? And who is paying him should be the first item to be investigated.

If he is Trump's attorney, he's not a government employee, yet he claimed he was an emissary, and that needs to be vetted.

As for Clinton and Kerry, they are yesterday. Do you want us to become more of a banana republic and go back to investigate Truman for using the second A-Bomb, or IKE for not supporting the French which created the Domino Theory? How about investigating Gingrich and other members of the H. or Rep. whose illicit sexual activities were worse than Clinton's lie (a lie most husbands would have told) and later left in shame (f'n hypocrites got what they deserved).
you seem to let your grandstanding get in the way of people knowing your'e full of shit.

you claim kerry and clinton are no longer gov employees and the investigations or concern should stop. then you rail on rudy. hey - rudy is an idiot so rail away. but he's NOT a gov employee either, yet somehow he's worthy of bypassing the very rules of engagement you just cited so you can rag on him in the same manner people rag on clinton / kerry that you seem to have issue with.

THAT is "hypocritical" so you should be mad at yourself now.

Remember it's not a crime when a democrat does it

Q. Aren't we all democrats?

A. All patriots are, some are Republicans, some are Libertarian's, some are Democrats and some belong to other political parties.

Of course then their is trump and his sycophants (like Frank) who hate democracy and want Big Brother to govern unabated by the people, or even a Constitution, a Judiciary or a Congress. The autocrat keeps the monsters away, isn't that what you pray for Frank?

You're covering for Biden makes you look rabidly partisan
 
I've been reading for a long time that Trump supporters want the impeachment proceedings to happen, and I'm seeing a lot of celebrating here, but I'm not quite sure why.

My guess is that you're thinking the Dems will make themselves look bad in the process, just in time for the next elections, would that be fair? (I can't disagree that politicians can make themselves look foolish, by the way, especially when they think they smell blood)

Any other reasons? And isn't it possible that some negative or damaging news on Trump will come to light as well, which might hurt him in 2020?

Serious questions.
.
/----/ DemocRATs are wasting our tax money so they don't have to do the work of the people for the next 15 months. And Libtards squeal about the debt.
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The Clinton's and Kerry are no longer government employees. The same can be said for the Bidens. Is Rudy? He's the one which needs to be investigated, the Clinton's and Kerry have been vetted, very unfairly by people like you, and found to have done nothing wrong.
that's some funny ass shit man. say your guys can't be investigated cause they ain't gov employees then say rudy should be.

you even read the shit you say first?

The more you post, the more your biases cloud your thinking. Was Rudy on the payroll? And who is paying him should be the first item to be investigated.

If he is Trump's attorney, he's not a government employee, yet he claimed he was an emissary, and that needs to be vetted.

As for Clinton and Kerry, they are yesterday. Do you want us to become more of a banana republic and go back to investigate Truman for using the second A-Bomb, or IKE for not supporting the French which created the Domino Theory? How about investigating Gingrich and other members of the H. or Rep. whose illicit sexual activities were worse than Clinton's lie (a lie most husbands would have told) and later left in shame (f'n hypocrites got what they deserved).
you seem to let your grandstanding get in the way of people knowing your'e full of shit.

you claim kerry and clinton are no longer gov employees and the investigations or concern should stop. then you rail on rudy. hey - rudy is an idiot so rail away. but he's NOT a gov employee either, yet somehow he's worthy of bypassing the very rules of engagement you just cited so you can rag on him in the same manner people rag on clinton / kerry that you seem to have issue with.

THAT is "hypocritical" so you should be mad at yourself now.

Remember it's not a crime when a democrat does it

Q. Aren't we all democrats?

A. All patriots are, some are Republicans, some are Libertarian's, some are Democrats and some belong to other political parties.

Of course then their is trump and his sycophants (like Frank) who hate democracy and want Big Brother to govern unabated by the people, or even a Constitution, a Judiciary or a Congress. The autocrat keeps the monsters away, isn't that what you pray for Frank?
/----/ "Aren't we all democrats?"
No, you moron.
 
Trump is different, and that's why people voted him into power. The main thing is that if no Quid pro quo was involved, then his methods aren't impeachable nor criminal, just different.
What do you mean he is “different”? He is NOT above the law.
That's the issue-legality

Agree. And that is why there needs to be an investigation.
except now the mantra is no crime is needed, just think he's below the standards for the office.

it really does come across as "any port in a storm" and not an honest effort to address "wrongdoing".

I don't agree. An impeachment inquiry isn't necessarily going to benefit the Dems - Pelosi was doing a good job keeping the reins on that and I agreed with it - whether it was Clinton, Bush, Obama, or Trump the calls for impeachment were used more for partisan political purposes than serious crimes (Congress can always choose to censure). I think this one was a bridge to far and NOT starting an inquiry even though it might hurt the Dems would have been a derelection of duty.

Trump was refusing to pass on the whistle blower report which should not have gone to him in the first place and he had no legal right to hold and the contents are seriously concerning imo. The inquiry will allow them to get documents and subpeona witnesses expeditiously and this will hopefully become transparent and settled one way or the other quickly.
I hope it drags out so everybody remembers the pain associated with it.
 

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