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I wish somebody would do a study to see how much of their time the Democrats have spent talking or trying to figure out ways to get rid of Trump since they took leadership of Congress. Because I think Americans are getting very disgusted with their antics already.
Wrong. As usual.
Let's take a look at the 2018 midterm election results. In 2018, Democrats saw a record 70% increase in their vote totals compared to the last midterm election. The numbers indicate that Americans are getting disgusted with Trump's antics.
But those are just numbers. You know, facts. I'm sure you have some really compelling factual data that you'll provide for us to validate your non-biased position.
The numbers are facts.
Your conclusion about American's getting disgusted are unsupported.
There are a huge number of reasons the increase could have taken place (or did you fail to leave that data out).
Suggest you look in the mirror when lecturing others about non-biased positions (or conclusions).
I wish somebody would do a study to see how much of their time the Democrats have spent talking or trying to figure out ways to get rid of Trump since they took leadership of Congress. Because I think Americans are getting very disgusted with their antics already.
Wrong. As usual.
Let's take a look at the 2018 midterm election results. In 2018, Democrats saw a record 70% increase in their vote totals compared to the last midterm election. The numbers indicate that Americans are getting disgusted with Trump's antics.
But those are just numbers. You know, facts. I'm sure you have some really compelling factual data that you'll provide for us to validate your non-biased position.
The numbers are facts.
Your conclusion about American's getting disgusted are unsupported.
There are a huge number of reasons the increase could have taken place (or did you fail to leave that data out).
Suggest you look in the mirror when lecturing others about non-biased positions (or conclusions).
Awesome. Go ahead and tell me where I'm wrong. Show me the exact statement I made that was incorrect.
Quote me, word-for-word, what I stated that was incorrect and tell me why it's wrong.
I wish somebody would do a study to see how much of their time the Democrats have spent talking or trying to figure out ways to get rid of Trump since they took leadership of Congress. Because I think Americans are getting very disgusted with their antics already.
Wrong. As usual.
Let's take a look at the 2018 midterm election results. In 2018, Democrats saw a record 70% increase in their vote totals compared to the last midterm election. The numbers indicate that Americans are getting disgusted with Trump's antics.
But those are just numbers. You know, facts. I'm sure you have some really compelling factual data that you'll provide for us to validate your non-biased position.
The numbers are facts.
Your conclusion about American's getting disgusted are unsupported.
There are a huge number of reasons the increase could have taken place (or did you fail to leave that data out).
Suggest you look in the mirror when lecturing others about non-biased positions (or conclusions).
Awesome. Go ahead and tell me where I'm wrong. Show me the exact statement I made that was incorrect.
Quote me, word-for-word, what I stated that was incorrect and tell me why it's wrong.
Are you stupid.
What part of" Your conclusions about Americans getting disgusted are unsupported" don't you understand ?
Any simple logic class teaches correlation is not causation. You've committed a fallacy.
Happy ?
I wish somebody would do a study to see how much of their time the Democrats have spent talking or trying to figure out ways to get rid of Trump since they took leadership of Congress. Because I think Americans are getting very disgusted with their antics already.
Wrong. As usual.
Let's take a look at the 2018 midterm election results. In 2018, Democrats saw a record 70% increase in their vote totals compared to the last midterm election. The numbers indicate that Americans are getting disgusted with Trump's antics.
But those are just numbers. You know, facts. I'm sure you have some really compelling factual data that you'll provide for us to validate your non-biased position.
The numbers are facts.
Your conclusion about American's getting disgusted are unsupported.
There are a huge number of reasons the increase could have taken place (or did you fail to leave that data out).
Suggest you look in the mirror when lecturing others about non-biased positions (or conclusions).
Awesome. Go ahead and tell me where I'm wrong. Show me the exact statement I made that was incorrect.
Quote me, word-for-word, what I stated that was incorrect and tell me why it's wrong.
Are you stupid.
What part of" Your conclusions about Americans getting disgusted are unsupported" don't you understand ?
Any simple logic class teaches correlation is not causation. You've committed a fallacy.
Happy ?
I noticed that you're making personal attacks against me rather than attacking my argument. Sounds like a logical fallacy to me.
Also, I noticed that you were incapable of quoting the specific statement that I made that was incorrect. I'll give you one more chance to specifically reference the specific statement of mine that you have an issue with. Quote it.
Yes of course you have a right to money you earn and the gov has a right to tax it. Hopefully as little as possible if I could have things my wayYour doing a good job. Lol I guess you hate your tax money.. do you even believe I have a right to money I earn?Yeah idiot I’m trying to save Joe Biden’s ass... it’s all up to me, I hope I don’t fail, the fate of the world depends on it.Are you still trying to save Biden’s ass lol to. FunnyBiden threatened a loan to push an agenda sanctioned by our government and our allies. That’s a whole different bowl of potatoes. Trump leveraged the aid by freezing it, against the will of congress, then while discussing it with the leader of Ukraine he asked for a favor which involved personal business to help his campaign. Don’t play dumb Ray. It’s clear as day. Go read the transcriptYes agreed. Those who want him impeached think he abused the power of his office when he leveraged military aid to solicit an investigation into Biden. Others thought the muller report had enough obstruction to justify impeachment.
He never leveraged military aid. Again, point this out to me in the transcript. Biden threatened aid, not Trump. Perhaps the problem is you are confusing the two events.
According to socialists no individual deserves any money that they earned, deadbeats deserve other peoples moneyYes of course you have a right to money you earn and the gov has a right to tax it. Hopefully as little as possible if I could have things my wayYour doing a good job. Lol I guess you hate your tax money.. do you even believe I have a right to money I earn?Yeah idiot I’m trying to save Joe Biden’s ass... it’s all up to me, I hope I don’t fail, the fate of the world depends on it.Are you still trying to save Biden’s ass lol to. FunnyBiden threatened a loan to push an agenda sanctioned by our government and our allies. That’s a whole different bowl of potatoes. Trump leveraged the aid by freezing it, against the will of congress, then while discussing it with the leader of Ukraine he asked for a favor which involved personal business to help his campaign. Don’t play dumb Ray. It’s clear as day. Go read the transcriptHe never leveraged military aid. Again, point this out to me in the transcript. Biden threatened aid, not Trump. Perhaps the problem is you are confusing the two events.
you seem to let your grandstanding get in the way of people knowing your'e full of shit.that's some funny ass shit man. say your guys can't be investigated cause they ain't gov employees then say rudy should be.
you even read the shit you say first?
The more you post, the more your biases cloud your thinking. Was Rudy on the payroll? And who is paying him should be the first item to be investigated.
If he is Trump's attorney, he's not a government employee, yet he claimed he was an emissary, and that needs to be vetted.
As for Clinton and Kerry, they are yesterday. Do you want us to become more of a banana republic and go back to investigate Truman for using the second A-Bomb, or IKE for not supporting the French which created the Domino Theory? How about investigating Gingrich and other members of the H. or Rep. whose illicit sexual activities were worse than Clinton's lie (a lie most husbands would have told) and later left in shame (f'n hypocrites got what they deserved).
you claim kerry and clinton are no longer gov employees and the investigations or concern should stop. then you rail on rudy. hey - rudy is an idiot so rail away. but he's NOT a gov employee either, yet somehow he's worthy of bypassing the very rules of engagement you just cited so you can rag on him in the same manner people rag on clinton / kerry that you seem to have issue with.
THAT is "hypocritical" so you should be mad at yourself now.
Remember it's not a crime when a democrat does it
Q. Aren't we all democrats?
A. All patriots are, some are Republicans, some are Libertarian's, some are Democrats and some belong to other political parties.
Of course then their is trump and his sycophants (like Frank) who hate democracy and want Big Brother to govern unabated by the people, or even a Constitution, a Judiciary or a Congress. The autocrat keeps the monsters away, isn't that what you pray for Frank?
You're covering for Biden makes you look rabidly partisan
You would eat the dingleberries out of Bidens ass... obviouslyyou seem to let your grandstanding get in the way of people knowing your'e full of shit.The more you post, the more your biases cloud your thinking. Was Rudy on the payroll? And who is paying him should be the first item to be investigated.
If he is Trump's attorney, he's not a government employee, yet he claimed he was an emissary, and that needs to be vetted.
As for Clinton and Kerry, they are yesterday. Do you want us to become more of a banana republic and go back to investigate Truman for using the second A-Bomb, or IKE for not supporting the French which created the Domino Theory? How about investigating Gingrich and other members of the H. or Rep. whose illicit sexual activities were worse than Clinton's lie (a lie most husbands would have told) and later left in shame (f'n hypocrites got what they deserved).
you claim kerry and clinton are no longer gov employees and the investigations or concern should stop. then you rail on rudy. hey - rudy is an idiot so rail away. but he's NOT a gov employee either, yet somehow he's worthy of bypassing the very rules of engagement you just cited so you can rag on him in the same manner people rag on clinton / kerry that you seem to have issue with.
THAT is "hypocritical" so you should be mad at yourself now.
Remember it's not a crime when a democrat does it
Q. Aren't we all democrats?
A. All patriots are, some are Republicans, some are Libertarian's, some are Democrats and some belong to other political parties.
Of course then their is trump and his sycophants (like Frank) who hate democracy and want Big Brother to govern unabated by the people, or even a Constitution, a Judiciary or a Congress. The autocrat keeps the monsters away, isn't that what you pray for Frank?
You're covering for Biden makes you look rabidly partisan
When did I cover for Biden? Calling out Trump for being an asshole and violating the law - which he admits to have done - is not covering for Biden. Of course I don't believe Biden or his son are crooks, and I'm sure that DJT is a crook.
/----/ "Aren't we all democrats?"you seem to let your grandstanding get in the way of people knowing your'e full of shit.that's some funny ass shit man. say your guys can't be investigated cause they ain't gov employees then say rudy should be.
you even read the shit you say first?
The more you post, the more your biases cloud your thinking. Was Rudy on the payroll? And who is paying him should be the first item to be investigated.
If he is Trump's attorney, he's not a government employee, yet he claimed he was an emissary, and that needs to be vetted.
As for Clinton and Kerry, they are yesterday. Do you want us to become more of a banana republic and go back to investigate Truman for using the second A-Bomb, or IKE for not supporting the French which created the Domino Theory? How about investigating Gingrich and other members of the H. or Rep. whose illicit sexual activities were worse than Clinton's lie (a lie most husbands would have told) and later left in shame (f'n hypocrites got what they deserved).
you claim kerry and clinton are no longer gov employees and the investigations or concern should stop. then you rail on rudy. hey - rudy is an idiot so rail away. but he's NOT a gov employee either, yet somehow he's worthy of bypassing the very rules of engagement you just cited so you can rag on him in the same manner people rag on clinton / kerry that you seem to have issue with.
THAT is "hypocritical" so you should be mad at yourself now.
Remember it's not a crime when a democrat does it
Q. Aren't we all democrats?
A. All patriots are, some are Republicans, some are Libertarian's, some are Democrats and some belong to other political parties.
Of course then their is trump and his sycophants (like Frank) who hate democracy and want Big Brother to govern unabated by the people, or even a Constitution, a Judiciary or a Congress. The autocrat keeps the monsters away, isn't that what you pray for Frank?
No, you moron.
It was absolutely political. It’s obvious. The entire Biden situation is being politicized as we speak. Trump is falsely distorting that situation to make it look like there’s a crime when the evidence is of the contrary. In fact there’s been statements by a prosecutor saying that there was no crimes or evidence of crimes by the Bidens. You can’t can’t squirm away from this.I’m not calling Napolitano right wing just because he was on fox. I’m calling him right wing because of his long history as a judge and then political analyst.Because it does not matter who says what.
First, people being on Fox News, does not make them "right-wing". My own mother, was on ABC News with George Stephanopoulos. She is not left-wing. Being on a news channel, doesn't magically change your political views.
Being judge doesn't mean you are divine truth. Are you saying that no judge ever made an incorrect judgement? Then why do left-wingers complain about the prison population?
Again, where is the evidence of a crime? The standard is, quid pro quo. If you don't do this, then I won't do that. If you do this, then I'll do that. If you investigate Biden, then I'll give you money. If you don't, then I won't.
Under that standard, nothing of the sort happened.
We all heard the conversation between trump and Ukraine. Discussing millions in military aid that Trump has frozen followed by two favors both very political in nature is what trump is accused of doing that violates 52 US code 30121. That’s the debate. I don’t expect you to agree that trump broke the law. I see you as the type that would excuse him if he shot somebody in the middle of 5th ave. But you’re not going to be able to win a debate of the subject. Something improper is there. We all know it
BS. Nope. There was no political favor. Period. There was ZERO political favor.
We know exactly why the funds were frozen, and it is the same reason prior administrations have had misgivings dealing with the Ukraine. Corruption. We've been talking about the corruption in the Ukraine for a decade. It didn't start with Trump, or even Obama.
That's why we have been pushing on them to deal with corruption for years.
That's why the majority of entire phone conversation was about corruption. There is no evidence that the reason for the holding the funds was about Biden. If you have such evidence, then provide it.
But saying that you know that was the primary purpose of this, when there is zero evidence supporting such a claim, other than a single off the cuff remark that it looks terrible... WHICH IS DOES look bad that Biden unilaterally got a prosecutor fired, with a clear quid pro quo statement.... that's not enough to convince any decent person that Trump was doing this whole thing just to nail Biden. Sorry. It isn't.
You can keep saying wrong things, but you are still wrong on this.
Right... and if the left had not jumped on this, nothing would have ever happened with it. This was a non-story, and would have disappeared.
The left-wing made this a story, by starting talking about impeachment. So we had to look at it. And when we looked at it, we notice in the phone conversation, that Trump referred to Biden saying he told the president of the Ukraine, that if he didn't fire the prosecutor, that they would not get the money.
We looked at it.... and low and behold... Biden said exactly that.
Does it look bad? Yes it most certainly does.
So now we have the left-wing claiming that Trump engaged in a Quid Pro Quo..... when no quid pro quo happened... and ironically over a situation where Biden DID engage in quid pro quo.
Those are the facts. I don't have to "squirm away" from the facts, because those are the facts. Between the two of us, I have the facts on my side. You are the one claiming "no Biden didn't, and Trump did".... when Biden HIMSELF said he did it.
Those are the facts. I am only pointing out, exactly what is documented fact. You are just pointing out what your opinion is of others motivations, which are not factual, or provable.
Go ahead and squirm some more.
Honestly man, I don’t think you’d know reality if it smacked you directly on the forehead. The whistler blower was the catalyst, followed by the DOJ keeping it from Congress, and the spark that lit the fuse was genius Giuliani on Cuomos show when he went off like a lunatic
All progressives are fucked in the head/----/ "Aren't we all democrats?"you seem to let your grandstanding get in the way of people knowing your'e full of shit.The more you post, the more your biases cloud your thinking. Was Rudy on the payroll? And who is paying him should be the first item to be investigated.
If he is Trump's attorney, he's not a government employee, yet he claimed he was an emissary, and that needs to be vetted.
As for Clinton and Kerry, they are yesterday. Do you want us to become more of a banana republic and go back to investigate Truman for using the second A-Bomb, or IKE for not supporting the French which created the Domino Theory? How about investigating Gingrich and other members of the H. or Rep. whose illicit sexual activities were worse than Clinton's lie (a lie most husbands would have told) and later left in shame (f'n hypocrites got what they deserved).
you claim kerry and clinton are no longer gov employees and the investigations or concern should stop. then you rail on rudy. hey - rudy is an idiot so rail away. but he's NOT a gov employee either, yet somehow he's worthy of bypassing the very rules of engagement you just cited so you can rag on him in the same manner people rag on clinton / kerry that you seem to have issue with.
THAT is "hypocritical" so you should be mad at yourself now.
Remember it's not a crime when a democrat does it
Q. Aren't we all democrats?
A. All patriots are, some are Republicans, some are Libertarian's, some are Democrats and some belong to other political parties.
Of course then their is trump and his sycophants (like Frank) who hate democracy and want Big Brother to govern unabated by the people, or even a Constitution, a Judiciary or a Congress. The autocrat keeps the monsters away, isn't that what you pray for Frank?
No, you moron.
I acknowledged we are not all democrats. People like you and Frank fear the people, and support the suppression of voters. You and he also support DJT, a wannabe despot and a megalomaniac who issues policies and EO's without the interference from a Congress, the Judiciary or morality.
Why not admit you are a 21st Century supporter of fascism?
What part of "Your conclusion does not follow you argument" don't you understand ?
Alreayd pointed out (for the last time) that you can't support your claim that the numbers (facts) don't quality your claim it shows....Americans are disgusted.
The 70% increase could simply be that people decided to vote because it was more convenient. There are probably a 100 explanations.
What if 200 million citizens storm the fed reserve to take out money back?Yes of course you have a right to money you earn and the gov has a right to tax it. Hopefully as little as possible if I could have things my wayYour doing a good job. Lol I guess you hate your tax money.. do you even believe I have a right to money I earn?Yeah idiot I’m trying to save Joe Biden’s ass... it’s all up to me, I hope I don’t fail, the fate of the world depends on it.Are you still trying to save Biden’s ass lol to. FunnyBiden threatened a loan to push an agenda sanctioned by our government and our allies. That’s a whole different bowl of potatoes. Trump leveraged the aid by freezing it, against the will of congress, then while discussing it with the leader of Ukraine he asked for a favor which involved personal business to help his campaign. Don’t play dumb Ray. It’s clear as day. Go read the transcriptHe never leveraged military aid. Again, point this out to me in the transcript. Biden threatened aid, not Trump. Perhaps the problem is you are confusing the two events.
I wish somebody would do a study to see how much of their time the Democrats have spent talking or trying to figure out ways to get rid of Trump since they took leadership of Congress. Because I think Americans are getting very disgusted with their antics already.
Wrong. As usual.
Let's take a look at the 2018 midterm election results. In 2018, Democrats saw a record 70% increase in their vote totals compared to the last midterm election. The numbers indicate that Americans are getting disgusted with Trump's antics.
But those are just numbers. You know, facts. I'm sure you have some really compelling factual data that you'll provide for us to validate your non-biased position.
The numbers are facts.
Your conclusion about American's getting disgusted are unsupported.
There are a huge number of reasons the increase could have taken place (or did you fail to leave that data out).
Suggest you look in the mirror when lecturing others about non-biased positions (or conclusions).
Awesome. Go ahead and tell me where I'm wrong. Show me the exact statement I made that was incorrect.
Quote me, word-for-word, what I stated that was incorrect and tell me why it's wrong.
Are you stupid.
What part of" Your conclusions about Americans getting disgusted are unsupported" don't you understand ?
Any simple logic class teaches correlation is not causation. You've committed a fallacy.
Happy ?
I noticed that you're making personal attacks against me rather than attacking my argument. Sounds like a logical fallacy to me.
Also, I noticed that you were incapable of quoting the specific statement that I made that was incorrect. I'll give you one more chance to specifically reference the specific statement of mine that you have an issue with. Quote it.
and schiff knew of this report a month before it was released. the entire act of WHAT A SURPRISE reeks to me.except now the mantra is no crime is needed, just think he's below the standards for the office.That's the issue-legalityWhat do you mean he is “different”? He is NOT above the law.Trump is different, and that's why people voted him into power. The main thing is that if no Quid pro quo was involved, then his methods aren't impeachable nor criminal, just different.
Agree. And that is why there needs to be an investigation.
it really does come across as "any port in a storm" and not an honest effort to address "wrongdoing".
I don't agree. An impeachment inquiry isn't necessarily going to benefit the Dems - Pelosi was doing a good job keeping the reins on that and I agreed with it - whether it was Clinton, Bush, Obama, or Trump the calls for impeachment were used more for partisan political purposes than serious crimes (Congress can always choose to censure). I think this one was a bridge to far and NOT starting an inquiry even though it might hurt the Dems would have been a derelection of duty.
Trump was refusing to pass on the whistle blower report which should not have gone to him in the first place and he had no legal right to hold and the contents are seriously concerning imo. The inquiry will allow them to get documents and subpeona witnesses expeditiously and this will hopefully become transparent and settled one way or the other quickly.
Why are you talking about socialists?According to socialists no individual deserves any money that they earned, deadbeats deserve other peoples moneyYes of course you have a right to money you earn and the gov has a right to tax it. Hopefully as little as possible if I could have things my wayYour doing a good job. Lol I guess you hate your tax money.. do you even believe I have a right to money I earn?Yeah idiot I’m trying to save Joe Biden’s ass... it’s all up to me, I hope I don’t fail, the fate of the world depends on it.Are you still trying to save Biden’s ass lol to. FunnyBiden threatened a loan to push an agenda sanctioned by our government and our allies. That’s a whole different bowl of potatoes. Trump leveraged the aid by freezing it, against the will of congress, then while discussing it with the leader of Ukraine he asked for a favor which involved personal business to help his campaign. Don’t play dumb Ray. It’s clear as day. Go read the transcript
It was absolutely political. It’s obvious. The entire Biden situation is being politicized as we speak. Trump is falsely distorting that situation to make it look like there’s a crime when the evidence is of the contrary. In fact there’s been statements by a prosecutor saying that there was no crimes or evidence of crimes by the Bidens. You can’t can’t squirm away from this.I’m not calling Napolitano right wing just because he was on fox. I’m calling him right wing because of his long history as a judge and then political analyst.
We all heard the conversation between trump and Ukraine. Discussing millions in military aid that Trump has frozen followed by two favors both very political in nature is what trump is accused of doing that violates 52 US code 30121. That’s the debate. I don’t expect you to agree that trump broke the law. I see you as the type that would excuse him if he shot somebody in the middle of 5th ave. But you’re not going to be able to win a debate of the subject. Something improper is there. We all know it
BS. Nope. There was no political favor. Period. There was ZERO political favor.
We know exactly why the funds were frozen, and it is the same reason prior administrations have had misgivings dealing with the Ukraine. Corruption. We've been talking about the corruption in the Ukraine for a decade. It didn't start with Trump, or even Obama.
That's why we have been pushing on them to deal with corruption for years.
That's why the majority of entire phone conversation was about corruption. There is no evidence that the reason for the holding the funds was about Biden. If you have such evidence, then provide it.
But saying that you know that was the primary purpose of this, when there is zero evidence supporting such a claim, other than a single off the cuff remark that it looks terrible... WHICH IS DOES look bad that Biden unilaterally got a prosecutor fired, with a clear quid pro quo statement.... that's not enough to convince any decent person that Trump was doing this whole thing just to nail Biden. Sorry. It isn't.
You can keep saying wrong things, but you are still wrong on this.
Right... and if the left had not jumped on this, nothing would have ever happened with it. This was a non-story, and would have disappeared.
The left-wing made this a story, by starting talking about impeachment. So we had to look at it. And when we looked at it, we notice in the phone conversation, that Trump referred to Biden saying he told the president of the Ukraine, that if he didn't fire the prosecutor, that they would not get the money.
We looked at it.... and low and behold... Biden said exactly that.
Does it look bad? Yes it most certainly does.
So now we have the left-wing claiming that Trump engaged in a Quid Pro Quo..... when no quid pro quo happened... and ironically over a situation where Biden DID engage in quid pro quo.
Those are the facts. I don't have to "squirm away" from the facts, because those are the facts. Between the two of us, I have the facts on my side. You are the one claiming "no Biden didn't, and Trump did".... when Biden HIMSELF said he did it.
Those are the facts. I am only pointing out, exactly what is documented fact. You are just pointing out what your opinion is of others motivations, which are not factual, or provable.
Go ahead and squirm some more.
Honestly man, I don’t think you’d know reality if it smacked you directly on the forehead. The whistler blower was the catalyst, followed by the DOJ keeping it from Congress, and the spark that lit the fuse was genius Giuliani on Cuomos show when he went off like a lunatic
The whistle blower, was a non-event. We've gone through it. The whistle blower knew even less about the phone call, than we know right now. The report was effectively a massive nothing-burger. Much like the Mueller report was a nothing-burger.
The report contained references to news articles, and hear-say. That's it. In short it was "I heard.... " and "There was a call...." and "Some people said....".
That whistle blower report was remarkable in only one way.... how little it had in the way of facts.
So why was it withheld? I'm convinced because either Trump, or someone in the Trump administration knew that delaying the release of this report, would be a brilliant political move. They knew that he left-wing, which has been both rabid and delusional in their attempts to destroy Trump, would toss themselves like a suicide cult, on this sword of their own making.
And they did. I have a hard time believing that Trump himself was this smart... but someone led the entire left-lemming-wing straight to a cliff, and encouraged them as they jumped to their deaths.
So let me clarify....
If there is something more here... and new evidence comes out showing illegal activity, then Trump is doomed, and I'm all for it.
But as things stand right now at this moment.... this will destroy the Democrats, and their lemming followers.
It was absolutely political. It’s obvious. The entire Biden situation is being politicized as we speak. Trump is falsely distorting that situation to make it look like there’s a crime when the evidence is of the contrary. In fact there’s been statements by a prosecutor saying that there was no crimes or evidence of crimes by the Bidens. You can’t can’t squirm away from this.BS. Nope. There was no political favor. Period. There was ZERO political favor.
We know exactly why the funds were frozen, and it is the same reason prior administrations have had misgivings dealing with the Ukraine. Corruption. We've been talking about the corruption in the Ukraine for a decade. It didn't start with Trump, or even Obama.
That's why we have been pushing on them to deal with corruption for years.
That's why the majority of entire phone conversation was about corruption. There is no evidence that the reason for the holding the funds was about Biden. If you have such evidence, then provide it.
But saying that you know that was the primary purpose of this, when there is zero evidence supporting such a claim, other than a single off the cuff remark that it looks terrible... WHICH IS DOES look bad that Biden unilaterally got a prosecutor fired, with a clear quid pro quo statement.... that's not enough to convince any decent person that Trump was doing this whole thing just to nail Biden. Sorry. It isn't.
You can keep saying wrong things, but you are still wrong on this.
Right... and if the left had not jumped on this, nothing would have ever happened with it. This was a non-story, and would have disappeared.
The left-wing made this a story, by starting talking about impeachment. So we had to look at it. And when we looked at it, we notice in the phone conversation, that Trump referred to Biden saying he told the president of the Ukraine, that if he didn't fire the prosecutor, that they would not get the money.
We looked at it.... and low and behold... Biden said exactly that.
Does it look bad? Yes it most certainly does.
So now we have the left-wing claiming that Trump engaged in a Quid Pro Quo..... when no quid pro quo happened... and ironically over a situation where Biden DID engage in quid pro quo.
Those are the facts. I don't have to "squirm away" from the facts, because those are the facts. Between the two of us, I have the facts on my side. You are the one claiming "no Biden didn't, and Trump did".... when Biden HIMSELF said he did it.
Those are the facts. I am only pointing out, exactly what is documented fact. You are just pointing out what your opinion is of others motivations, which are not factual, or provable.
Go ahead and squirm some more.
Honestly man, I don’t think you’d know reality if it smacked you directly on the forehead. The whistler blower was the catalyst, followed by the DOJ keeping it from Congress, and the spark that lit the fuse was genius Giuliani on Cuomos show when he went off like a lunatic
The whistle blower, was a non-event. We've gone through it. The whistle blower knew even less about the phone call, than we know right now. The report was effectively a massive nothing-burger. Much like the Mueller report was a nothing-burger.
The report contained references to news articles, and hear-say. That's it. In short it was "I heard.... " and "There was a call...." and "Some people said....".
That whistle blower report was remarkable in only one way.... how little it had in the way of facts.
So why was it withheld? I'm convinced because either Trump, or someone in the Trump administration knew that delaying the release of this report, would be a brilliant political move. They knew that he left-wing, which has been both rabid and delusional in their attempts to destroy Trump, would toss themselves like a suicide cult, on this sword of their own making.
And they did. I have a hard time believing that Trump himself was this smart... but someone led the entire left-lemming-wing straight to a cliff, and encouraged them as they jumped to their deaths.
So let me clarify....
If there is something more here... and new evidence comes out showing illegal activity, then Trump is doomed, and I'm all for it.
But as things stand right now at this moment.... this will destroy the Democrats, and their lemming followers.
Trump is in melt down mode. His diehards probably love it but for normal people when our POTUS sends close to 50 tweets in 24 hours and brings up things like civil war, treason, confronting the whistleblower, White House spy’s etc etc etc it get real old. If we are talking about political strategy then I’m not seeing the brilliance from trump here I’m seeing a tail spin.
Aww that’s sweet... do you think our wealth is contained in paper and coin money stored in the federal reserve?What if 200 million citizens storm the fed reserve to take out money back?Yes of course you have a right to money you earn and the gov has a right to tax it. Hopefully as little as possible if I could have things my wayYour doing a good job. Lol I guess you hate your tax money.. do you even believe I have a right to money I earn?Yeah idiot I’m trying to save Joe Biden’s ass... it’s all up to me, I hope I don’t fail, the fate of the world depends on it.Are you still trying to save Biden’s ass lol to. FunnyBiden threatened a loan to push an agenda sanctioned by our government and our allies. That’s a whole different bowl of potatoes. Trump leveraged the aid by freezing it, against the will of congress, then while discussing it with the leader of Ukraine he asked for a favor which involved personal business to help his campaign. Don’t play dumb Ray. It’s clear as day. Go read the transcript
It was absolutely political. It’s obvious. The entire Biden situation is being politicized as we speak. Trump is falsely distorting that situation to make it look like there’s a crime when the evidence is of the contrary. In fact there’s been statements by a prosecutor saying that there was no crimes or evidence of crimes by the Bidens. You can’t can’t squirm away from this.BS. Nope. There was no political favor. Period. There was ZERO political favor.
We know exactly why the funds were frozen, and it is the same reason prior administrations have had misgivings dealing with the Ukraine. Corruption. We've been talking about the corruption in the Ukraine for a decade. It didn't start with Trump, or even Obama.
That's why we have been pushing on them to deal with corruption for years.
That's why the majority of entire phone conversation was about corruption. There is no evidence that the reason for the holding the funds was about Biden. If you have such evidence, then provide it.
But saying that you know that was the primary purpose of this, when there is zero evidence supporting such a claim, other than a single off the cuff remark that it looks terrible... WHICH IS DOES look bad that Biden unilaterally got a prosecutor fired, with a clear quid pro quo statement.... that's not enough to convince any decent person that Trump was doing this whole thing just to nail Biden. Sorry. It isn't.
You can keep saying wrong things, but you are still wrong on this.
Right... and if the left had not jumped on this, nothing would have ever happened with it. This was a non-story, and would have disappeared.
The left-wing made this a story, by starting talking about impeachment. So we had to look at it. And when we looked at it, we notice in the phone conversation, that Trump referred to Biden saying he told the president of the Ukraine, that if he didn't fire the prosecutor, that they would not get the money.
We looked at it.... and low and behold... Biden said exactly that.
Does it look bad? Yes it most certainly does.
So now we have the left-wing claiming that Trump engaged in a Quid Pro Quo..... when no quid pro quo happened... and ironically over a situation where Biden DID engage in quid pro quo.
Those are the facts. I don't have to "squirm away" from the facts, because those are the facts. Between the two of us, I have the facts on my side. You are the one claiming "no Biden didn't, and Trump did".... when Biden HIMSELF said he did it.
Those are the facts. I am only pointing out, exactly what is documented fact. You are just pointing out what your opinion is of others motivations, which are not factual, or provable.
Go ahead and squirm some more.
Honestly man, I don’t think you’d know reality if it smacked you directly on the forehead. The whistler blower was the catalyst, followed by the DOJ keeping it from Congress, and the spark that lit the fuse was genius Giuliani on Cuomos show when he went off like a lunatic
The whistle blower, was a non-event. We've gone through it. The whistle blower knew even less about the phone call, than we know right now. The report was effectively a massive nothing-burger. Much like the Mueller report was a nothing-burger.
The report contained references to news articles, and hear-say. That's it. In short it was "I heard.... " and "There was a call...." and "Some people said....".
That whistle blower report was remarkable in only one way.... how little it had in the way of facts.
So why was it withheld? I'm convinced because either Trump, or someone in the Trump administration knew that delaying the release of this report, would be a brilliant political move. They knew that he left-wing, which has been both rabid and delusional in their attempts to destroy Trump, would toss themselves like a suicide cult, on this sword of their own making.
And they did. I have a hard time believing that Trump himself was this smart... but someone led the entire left-lemming-wing straight to a cliff, and encouraged them as they jumped to their deaths.
So let me clarify....
If there is something more here... and new evidence comes out showing illegal activity, then Trump is doomed, and I'm all for it.
But as things stand right now at this moment.... this will destroy the Democrats, and their lemming followers.
Trump is in melt down mode. His diehards probably love it but for normal people when our POTUS sends close to 50 tweets in 24 hours and brings up things like civil war, treason, confronting the whistleblower, White House spy’s etc etc etc it get real old. If we are talking about political strategy then I’m not seeing the brilliance from trump here I’m seeing a tail spin.
