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Innocence is meaningless. Innocent people get the penalty. They die.
What due process does a woman get when the state coops her body?
call it what it is,,Does your body have an unwanted entity growing inside it that the state tells you you can't have a medical procedure to remove?
A BABY,,
A human being. An innocent human being who had no say at all as to the circumstances under which he was created; and now we are discussing whether those who did have a say in that, who are responsible for it, should have the “right” to murder this human being in cold blood, for no better reason than that they don't want to deal with the responsibility that creating a new human being entails.
I love threads like this. Nothing brings the right wing latent hatred of women out more than a thread about abortion.
That it happens, from time to time, from accidents, errors, and natural causes, is not any kind of excuse for intentionally causing it to happen.
I could die in a car accident tomorrow, on my way to work. But even if we could establish, beyond any doubt, that that was destined to happen, if you come to my home today, and kill me, you're still a murderer just the same, and deserve the same consequences that all murderers deserve.
You ascribe "innocence" and all sorts of high minded ideas to a collection of cells that aren't even a sentient being at that point. You're projecting your fantasy of innocent perfection onto a fertilized egg, not a living being. And in doing so, you strip the actual living being of all of her rights of self-determination.
As far as you're concerned, the moment an egg is fertilized, the women's sole purpose and function is to gestate that fetus, and give birth to it, and all of her rights of self-determination cease to exist for the rest of her life.
Fuck you and the horse you rode in on. It's my body, it's my life, and if I get pregnant, I have every right to decide if I am in a position to give that child everything he or she will need to become the kind of person with the kind of opportunities that every child should have. If for reasons of health or finances, or even the state of the world, I decide that now is not the right time, that is my decision, and mine alone.
If you believe abortion is wrong, don't have one. That's what being pro-choice really means. You're not "pro-life". That moniker is a lie that anti-abortionists made up to sound less like they oppose rights for women, which is what they really oppose.
Abortion was legal until women asked for the vote. As soon as women started agitating for the vote, abortion was banned. Don't you get uppity or we'll take away your rights.
Blacks and women have been getting uppity ever since we all got the right to vote. Now Republicans are taking away abortion, and the rights of women and minorities to vote. We're being put in our place. Like that is going to happen!!!
And y'all are acting like she didn't know she'd be taking that chance when the "oopsie" accident happened. You're all totally full of shit. It's rarely an accident. Women DO use abortion as birth control and this makes me puke.As far as you're concerned, the moment an egg is fertilized, the women's sole purpose and function is to gestate that fetus, and give birth to it, and all of her rights of self-determination cease to exist for the rest of her life.
Nobody is coopting her body.
Unless she was raped, she chose to engage in the behavior that resulted in the creation of a new human being, for whom she is responsible.
Denying her the “right” to murder that human being in cold blood is not coopting anything.
You make absolutely no sense at all.Have you ever thought of saving lives of the living kids in Africa?
Of course not. All of you godbotherers are pro birth no pro life.
Says a dimwit that was once a "clump of cells"
Women are smarter and need to take more responsibility. Men are mostly knuckle-dragging cavemen with uncontrollable dicks. Women need to accept that they are responsible.So no responsibility for the other "tango" partner, huh asshole?
I doubt that Texas will miss you personally.
Removing a lung doesn't necessarily kill an innocent human being.It doesn"t [sic] matter. Do you pass laws making removal of a lung illegal for lung cancer because the patient could have prevented it by not smoking?
I used to live in Texas and it sucked then and it really sucks now. Texas Taliban idiots running around in pickup trucks with Trump flags in the back, drinking cheap beer that ends up on their scraggly beards and dirty t shirts. Oh, and of course brandishing their open-carry AR-15s while listening to Hannity on the radio.I doubt that Texas will miss you personally.
Bye.
Awwwwwwwww........ Poor baby. What tribulations you must have endured, having to share a state with such trash!I used to live in Texas and it sucked then and it really sucks now. Texas Taliban idiots running around in pickup trucks with Trump flags in the back, drinking cheap beer that ends up on their scraggly beards and dirty t shirts.
Ok. A woman miscarries. Who killed the baby?
