She’s Right About Civil War

[LaDexter]

Amazing how both major Presidential assassinations were done with a VEEP named

JOHNSON....


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[bripat9643]

It means that SC had the right to enforce its laws by arresting anyone who broke them, you lying dumbass.

Ft Sumter wasn't purchased, so that shoots that theory down. Furthermore, it's vague.

Fucking moron, being able to process serve is not being able to enforce their laws. If South Carolina passed a law that alcohol was illegal, they could not enforce people to not drink alcohol on that territory. Drinking alcohol in Fort Sumter would still be legal, ya fucking moron. What that provision meant was that if someone drank alcohol in South Carolina outside of that territory, that would be a criminal offense, and such a person could then be process served if they tried to hide in Fort Sumter.

It never ceases to amaze me to see just how retarded you are.

It doesn't say "serve a process." It says "all processes, civil and criminal" that means things like arresting people for violating the laws of SC, ya fucking moron.

It doesn't say "serve a process."

LOLOLOLOL

You’re such a fucking moron.

Yeah, fucking moron, it says process serve...

"Provided, That all processes, civil and criminal issued under the authority of this State, or any officer thereof, shall and may be served and executed upon the same, and any person there being who may be implicated by law"​

Once again, you lie about what was said. The context of words has a profound affect on their meaning.

LOL

Fucking moron, the liar would be the one who posted only a few words from that sentence and omitted the remainder where it says civil and criminal process ”may be served.”

That would be you who did that.

I’m the one who posted the entire sentence, putting it into the proper context.

It says what it says and your limited comprehension is not actually even needed. The resolution is quite clear. “ALL rights, title and claim” of that territory and property were ceded to the United States. The only provisio was that the state could process serve “any person there being who may be implicated by law.”

If you knew anything, and you don’t know a damn thing, you’d know that was a standard provision every state included when ceding land to the United States so that fugitives couldn’t escape the law by taking up refuge in a federal installation. Something they had to do since while states would extradite fugitives who crossed state lines, there was no such arrangement with the federal government.

It boggles my mind how someone can be as stupid as you to lose this argument every time we have it; and you never learn. Even idiots yearn to learn things they know nothing about, whereas you continue to thrive in your ignorance. That makes you dumber than an idiot.

We could argue about what it says for the next 50 years, and you would still be spouting the same idiocies.

 

[bripat9643]

Having lived in Mississippi, I have to wonder what do Mississippians consider their finest moments in history if not the civil war. Hopefully, it wasn't the introduction of slavery in the early 1700's, the lynchings, race riots, miscegenation laws, the KKK, the Mississippi sterilization law, segregation, or the suppression of black voting. Surely there must be something Mississippians can be proud of.

They elected a good candidate to the United States Senate. They vote Republican. They voted for Wallace in 1968. They oppose abortion. They have a long military tradition, including defending their state from invasion when they belonged to the CSA. Their youth say’s “yessir...nossir...yes ma’am...no ma’am.” They are strong supporters of the NRA.

And strong supporters of the Klan.

Really? Hmmmm. So Northern cities welcomed Catholic’s and Jews with open arms? What was the “Know Nothing Party” and where was it’s political strength?

I have often pointed out how much Trumpies remind me of the Know Nothings. Your rhetoric is IDENTICAL. It's amazing how similar it is. Except instead of picking on all the Non-English immigrants (Irish, German, Italian, Polish, Catholics, etc.), the focus of you modern day Know Nothings is on brown and black people.

Did you know the official name of the Know Nothing party was The American Party? I've often thought Trump should start a new American Party to make the circle complete.

Then we can all wave bye-bye to you as you sink into obsolescence like the original.

Like others I also found the comparison to Trumpism and the Know Knothings interesting. The KN raison d'être was organizing native born protestants to fear immigrant catholics, who of course turned to be just like everybody else. But the reason the KN were just a footnote was their raison d'être was subsumed by the civil war in two election cycles. And catholic immigrant loyalty was not an issue. To me the issue is how long Trumpism can sustain itself. I suspect Trumpism will also become a footnote, and this issue will be debt.

Lincoln despised the KN, but he didn't pause in getting their votes on the slavery expansion issue. LOL

The analogies to me are pretty much that W tracks close to Buchanan, the worst ever. Buchanan promised no legislative compromise on the issue of slavery expansion, and got the SC to answer the question by ruling that blacks could never be citizens. Thus Buchanan insured that every new state would decide whether they'd be a slave state or not. And free states would have to allow blacks to be removed form their state and returned to their masters.

W abandoned limited federal govt and the use of power on the Reagan Doctrine. At the end of W, 25-40 members of the Freedom Caucus controlled the gop in the House. A pol party cannot govern that way.

But immigration isn't anywhere close to slavery as an issue central to preserving the republic ... despite what the Trump drinkers would say. Illegal immigration can be solved with one law, or two legislative bills, and not much money in the scheme of things. The debt will be generational, and the gop's last effort at it just collapsed today in the House. McConnell said no compromise till Trump is gone, and that's the final word.

You mean Schumer's laughable $1.6 weasel was rejected? You poor witto babeeeeee!

 

[Faun]

Fucking moron, being able to process serve is not being able to enforce their laws. If South Carolina passed a law that alcohol was illegal, they could not enforce people to not drink alcohol on that territory. Drinking alcohol in Fort Sumter would still be legal, ya fucking moron. What that provision meant was that if someone drank alcohol in South Carolina outside of that territory, that would be a criminal offense, and such a person could then be process served if they tried to hide in Fort Sumter.

It never ceases to amaze me to see just how retarded you are.

It doesn't say "serve a process." It says "all processes, civil and criminal" that means things like arresting people for violating the laws of SC, ya fucking moron.

It doesn't say "serve a process."

LOLOLOLOL

You’re such a fucking moron.

Yeah, fucking moron, it says process serve...

"Provided, That all processes, civil and criminal issued under the authority of this State, or any officer thereof, shall and may be served and executed upon the same, and any person there being who may be implicated by law"​

Once again, you lie about what was said. The context of words has a profound affect on their meaning.

LOL

Fucking moron, the liar would be the one who posted only a few words from that sentence and omitted the remainder where it says civil and criminal process ”may be served.”

That would be you who did that.

I’m the one who posted the entire sentence, putting it into the proper context.

It says what it says and your limited comprehension is not actually even needed. The resolution is quite clear. “ALL rights, title and claim” of that territory and property were ceded to the United States. The only provisio was that the state could process serve “any person there being who may be implicated by law.”

If you knew anything, and you don’t know a damn thing, you’d know that was a standard provision every state included when ceding land to the United States so that fugitives couldn’t escape the law by taking up refuge in a federal installation. Something they had to do since while states would extradite fugitives who crossed state lines, there was no such arrangement with the federal government.

It boggles my mind how someone can be as stupid as you to lose this argument every time we have it; and you never learn. Even idiots yearn to learn things they know nothing about, whereas you continue to thrive in your ignorance. That makes you dumber than an idiot.

We could argue about what it says for the next 50 years, and you would still be spouting the same idiocies.

And you still won’t learn that South Carolina’s only provisio was to let them process serve people who may be implicated by the law...

"Provided, That all processes, civil and criminal issued under the authority of this State, or any officer thereof, shall and may be served and executed upon the same, and any person there being who may be implicated by law"​

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You confuse me. Do you LOVE the USA or HATE it? It sure sounds to me like you HATE the USA because they "invaded" your homeland. So are you a REAL American (like you claim in that picture you post) or an America hater because lincoln and the USA invaded the south?

The South of the Civil War era was more American than the North, which was overflowing with recent immigrants from Europe. Most of the US Army was Irish!

 

[there4eyeM]

No state ever seceded from the Perpetual Union (yes, words do have meaning). Some states declared they were separate. Some states tried to enforce their claim. Their claim was refuted and their illegal action nullified through military action. An unfortunate turn of events made necessary by anti-republican, inhuman elements in society.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

No state ever seceded from the Perpetual Union (yes, words do have meaning). Some states declared they were separate. Some states tried to enforce their claim. Their claim was refuted and their illegal action nullified through military action. An unfortunate turn of events made necessary by anti-republican, inhuman elements in society.

Yes, eventually that happened. How many military victories did the South have over the North by the summer of 1863?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

No state ever seceded from the Perpetual Union (yes, words do have meaning). Some states declared they were separate. Some states tried to enforce their claim. Their claim was refuted and their illegal action nullified through military action. An unfortunate turn of events made necessary by anti-republican, inhuman elements in society.

Yes, eventually that happened. How many military victories did the South have over the North by the summer of 1863?

And who WON again?

 

[Bush92]

Having lived in Mississippi, I have to wonder what do Mississippians consider their finest moments in history if not the civil war. Hopefully, it wasn't the introduction of slavery in the early 1700's, the lynchings, race riots, miscegenation laws, the KKK, the Mississippi sterilization law, segregation, or the suppression of black voting. Surely there must be something Mississippians can be proud of.

They elected a good candidate to the United States Senate. They vote Republican. They voted for Wallace in 1968. They oppose abortion. They have a long military tradition, including defending their state from invasion when they belonged to the CSA. Their youth say’s “yessir...nossir...yes ma’am...no ma’am.” They are strong supporters of the NRA.

And strong supporters of the Klan.

Really? Hmmmm. So Northern cities welcomed Catholic’s and Jews with open arms? What was the “Know Nothing Party” and where was it’s political strength?

I have often pointed out how much Trumpies remind me of the Know Nothings. Your rhetoric is IDENTICAL. It's amazing how similar it is. Except instead of picking on all the Non-English immigrants (Irish, German, Italian, Polish, Catholics, etc.), the focus of you modern day Know Nothings is on brown and black people.

Did you know the official name of the Know Nothing party was The American Party? I've often thought Trump should start a new American Party to make the circle complete.

Then we can all wave bye-bye to you as you sink into obsolescence like the original.

Like others I also found the comparison to Trumpism and the Know Knothings interesting. The KN raison d'être was organizing native born protestants to fear immigrant catholics, who of course turned to be just like everybody else. But the reason the KN were just a footnote was their raison d'être was subsumed by the civil war in two election cycles. And catholic immigrant loyalty was not an issue. To me the issue is how long Trumpism can sustain itself. I suspect Trumpism will also become a footnote, and this issue will be debt.

Lincoln despised the KN, but he didn't pause in getting their votes on the slavery expansion issue. LOL

The analogies to me are pretty much that W tracks close to Buchanan, the worst ever. Buchanan promised no legislative compromise on the issue of slavery expansion, and got the SC to answer the question by ruling that blacks could never be citizens. Thus Buchanan insured that every new state would decide whether they'd be a slave state or not. And free states would have to allow blacks to be removed form their state and returned to their masters.

W abandoned limited federal govt and the use of power on the Reagan Doctrine. At the end of W, 25-40 members of the Freedom Caucus controlled the gop in the House. A pol party cannot govern that way.

But immigration isn't anywhere close to slavery as an issue central to preserving the republic ... despite what the Trump drinkers would say. Illegal immigration can be solved with one law, or two legislative bills, and not much money in the scheme of things. The debt will be generational, and the gop's last effort at it just collapsed today in the House. McConnell said no compromise till Trump is gone, and that's the final word.

What is “Trumpism?” Please do explain.

 

[Kondor3]

...After SC seceded, it was a sovereign nation. the US was a foreign power. End of discussion.

Incorrect.

The act of secession itself was illegal, and, therefore, null, void and invalid.

This was settled 150+ years ago, in favor of the United States, its Constitution, and its Federal government.

We win... you lose... then... and now.

 

[Bush92]

No state ever seceded from the Perpetual Union (yes, words do have meaning). Some states declared they were separate. Some states tried to enforce their claim. Their claim was refuted and their illegal action nullified through military action. An unfortunate turn of events made necessary by anti-republican, inhuman elements in society.

Yes, eventually that happened. How many military victories did the South have over the North by the summer of 1863?

And who WON again?

The Radical Republicans who added the worst Amendment in history to the Constitution. 14.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

They elected a good candidate to the United States Senate. They vote Republican. They voted for Wallace in 1968. They oppose abortion. They have a long military tradition, including defending their state from invasion when they belonged to the CSA. Their youth say’s “yessir...nossir...yes ma’am...no ma’am.” They are strong supporters of the NRA.

And strong supporters of the Klan.

Really? Hmmmm. So Northern cities welcomed Catholic’s and Jews with open arms? What was the “Know Nothing Party” and where was it’s political strength?

I have often pointed out how much Trumpies remind me of the Know Nothings. Your rhetoric is IDENTICAL. It's amazing how similar it is. Except instead of picking on all the Non-English immigrants (Irish, German, Italian, Polish, Catholics, etc.), the focus of you modern day Know Nothings is on brown and black people.

Did you know the official name of the Know Nothing party was The American Party? I've often thought Trump should start a new American Party to make the circle complete.

Then we can all wave bye-bye to you as you sink into obsolescence like the original.

Like others I also found the comparison to Trumpism and the Know Knothings interesting. The KN raison d'être was organizing native born protestants to fear immigrant catholics, who of course turned to be just like everybody else. But the reason the KN were just a footnote was their raison d'être was subsumed by the civil war in two election cycles. And catholic immigrant loyalty was not an issue. To me the issue is how long Trumpism can sustain itself. I suspect Trumpism will also become a footnote, and this issue will be debt.

Lincoln despised the KN, but he didn't pause in getting their votes on the slavery expansion issue. LOL

The analogies to me are pretty much that W tracks close to Buchanan, the worst ever. Buchanan promised no legislative compromise on the issue of slavery expansion, and got the SC to answer the question by ruling that blacks could never be citizens. Thus Buchanan insured that every new state would decide whether they'd be a slave state or not. And free states would have to allow blacks to be removed form their state and returned to their masters.

W abandoned limited federal govt and the use of power on the Reagan Doctrine. At the end of W, 25-40 members of the Freedom Caucus controlled the gop in the House. A pol party cannot govern that way.

But immigration isn't anywhere close to slavery as an issue central to preserving the republic ... despite what the Trump drinkers would say. Illegal immigration can be solved with one law, or two legislative bills, and not much money in the scheme of things. The debt will be generational, and the gop's last effort at it just collapsed today in the House. McConnell said no compromise till Trump is gone, and that's the final word.

What is “Trumpism?” Please do explain.

Poisonous nationalism, evaluating every event, idea, and fact on how it apersonally affects Trump instead of on its merits, and valuing classless, unethical behavior over better behavior, to get a cheap thrill.

 

[Bush92]

...After SC seceded, it was a sovereign nation. the US was a foreign power. End of discussion.

Incorrect.

The act of secession itself was illegal, and, therefore, null, void and invalid.

This was settled 150+ years ago, in favor of the United States, its Constitution, and its Federal government.

We win... you lose... then... and now.

Yep...the oppressive central authorities.

 

[Kondor3]

...What is “Trumpism?

Backing a lewd, crude, boorish, deceitful, arrogant, ignorant, delusional half-senile amateur?

 

[Bush92]

And strong supporters of the Klan.

Really? Hmmmm. So Northern cities welcomed Catholic’s and Jews with open arms? What was the “Know Nothing Party” and where was it’s political strength?

I have often pointed out how much Trumpies remind me of the Know Nothings. Your rhetoric is IDENTICAL. It's amazing how similar it is. Except instead of picking on all the Non-English immigrants (Irish, German, Italian, Polish, Catholics, etc.), the focus of you modern day Know Nothings is on brown and black people.

Did you know the official name of the Know Nothing party was The American Party? I've often thought Trump should start a new American Party to make the circle complete.

Then we can all wave bye-bye to you as you sink into obsolescence like the original.

Like others I also found the comparison to Trumpism and the Know Knothings interesting. The KN raison d'être was organizing native born protestants to fear immigrant catholics, who of course turned to be just like everybody else. But the reason the KN were just a footnote was their raison d'être was subsumed by the civil war in two election cycles. And catholic immigrant loyalty was not an issue. To me the issue is how long Trumpism can sustain itself. I suspect Trumpism will also become a footnote, and this issue will be debt.

Lincoln despised the KN, but he didn't pause in getting their votes on the slavery expansion issue. LOL

The analogies to me are pretty much that W tracks close to Buchanan, the worst ever. Buchanan promised no legislative compromise on the issue of slavery expansion, and got the SC to answer the question by ruling that blacks could never be citizens. Thus Buchanan insured that every new state would decide whether they'd be a slave state or not. And free states would have to allow blacks to be removed form their state and returned to their masters.

W abandoned limited federal govt and the use of power on the Reagan Doctrine. At the end of W, 25-40 members of the Freedom Caucus controlled the gop in the House. A pol party cannot govern that way.

But immigration isn't anywhere close to slavery as an issue central to preserving the republic ... despite what the Trump drinkers would say. Illegal immigration can be solved with one law, or two legislative bills, and not much money in the scheme of things. The debt will be generational, and the gop's last effort at it just collapsed today in the House. McConnell said no compromise till Trump is gone, and that's the final word.

What is “Trumpism?” Please do explain.

Poisonous nationalism, evaluating every event, idea, and fact on how it apersonally affects Trump instead of on its merits, and valuing classless, unethical behavior over better behavior, to get a cheap thrill.

What’s wrong with loving ones country and expecting other to respect our national sovereignty? What has Trump done that is “ unethical?”

 

[Bush92]

...What is “Trumpism?

Backing a lewd, crude, boorish, deceitful, arrogant, ignorant, half-senile amateur?

In your opinion.

 

[Bush92]

...What is “Trumpism?

Backing a lewd, crude, boorish, deceitful, arrogant, ignorant, delusional half-senile amateur?

How is Trump an “amateur?” To what do you refer?

 

[Kondor3]

Head of Confederacy = Democrat Jefferson DAVIS (don't notice Davis is a JEWISH last name, or that would make you blah blah blah....)

Gov of TN = Democrat Isham HARRIS (don't notice HARRIS is a JEWISH last name, or that would make you blah blah blah....)


Jews and the African Slave Trade | My Jewish Learning


Did Jews really own slaves?
Yes. Jacob Rader Marcus, a historian and Reform rabbi, wrote in his four-volume history of Americans Jews that over 75 percent of Jewish families in Charleston, South Carolina; Richmond, Virginia; and Savannah, Georgia, owned slaves, and nearly 40 percent of Jewish households across the country did. The Jewish population in these cities was quite small, however, so the total number of slaves they owned represented just a small fraction of the total slave population; Eli Faber, a historian at New York City’s John Jay College reported that in 1790, Charleston’s Jews owned a total of 93 slaves, and that “perhaps six Jewish families” lived in Savannah in 1771.

A number of wealthy Jews were also involved in the slave trade in the Americas, some as shipowners who imported slaves and others as agents who resold them. In the United States, Isaac Da Costa of Charleston, David Franks of Philadelphia and Aaron Lopez of Newport, Rhode Island, are among the early American Jews who were prominent in the importation and sale of African slaves. In addition, some Jews were involved in the trade in various European Caribbean colonies. Alexandre Lindo, a French-born Jew who became a wealthy merchant in Jamaica in the late 18th century, was a major seller of slaves on the island.




Just remember, if you ever suggest Jews were involved with the slave trade, the origin of slavery in America, the "legal decision" to import slaves without Washington's approval, the succession, and the attack on Ft Sumter....

yeah.... you are a blah blah blah noticing way too much truth as usual....



The SOUTH has ALWAYS been RULED by JDAACs, JEWS disguised as "christians...."

and white Southern Christians are still TOO DUMB TOO NOTICE....

Is there a psychiatrist in the house?

 

[Kondor3]

...What is “Trumpism?

Backing a lewd, crude, boorish, deceitful, arrogant, ignorant, delusional half-senile amateur?

How is Trump an “amateur?” To what do you refer?

Let's take 'em in order.

We can start with 'lewd'...

 

[Bush92]

Head of Confederacy = Democrat Jefferson DAVIS (don't notice Davis is a JEWISH last name, or that would make you blah blah blah....)

Gov of TN = Democrat Isham HARRIS (don't notice HARRIS is a JEWISH last name, or that would make you blah blah blah....)


Jews and the African Slave Trade | My Jewish Learning


Did Jews really own slaves?
Yes. Jacob Rader Marcus, a historian and Reform rabbi, wrote in his four-volume history of Americans Jews that over 75 percent of Jewish families in Charleston, South Carolina; Richmond, Virginia; and Savannah, Georgia, owned slaves, and nearly 40 percent of Jewish households across the country did. The Jewish population in these cities was quite small, however, so the total number of slaves they owned represented just a small fraction of the total slave population; Eli Faber, a historian at New York City’s John Jay College reported that in 1790, Charleston’s Jews owned a total of 93 slaves, and that “perhaps six Jewish families” lived in Savannah in 1771.

A number of wealthy Jews were also involved in the slave trade in the Americas, some as shipowners who imported slaves and others as agents who resold them. In the United States, Isaac Da Costa of Charleston, David Franks of Philadelphia and Aaron Lopez of Newport, Rhode Island, are among the early American Jews who were prominent in the importation and sale of African slaves. In addition, some Jews were involved in the trade in various European Caribbean colonies. Alexandre Lindo, a French-born Jew who became a wealthy merchant in Jamaica in the late 18th century, was a major seller of slaves on the island.




Just remember, if you ever suggest Jews were involved with the slave trade, the origin of slavery in America, the "legal decision" to import slaves without Washington's approval, the succession, and the attack on Ft Sumter....

yeah.... you are a blah blah blah noticing way too much truth as usual....



The SOUTH has ALWAYS been RULED by JDAACs, JEWS disguised as "christians...."

and white Southern Christians are still TOO DUMB TOO NOTICE....

Is there a psychiatrist in the house?

No because he’s at yours.