Should Casebolt Have Shot the Kids who Charged At Him ?

Where oh where could they possibly have a weapon hidden? Up their keesters? where your brain resides?

Ever hear of a pocket ? Read Post # 10. Read baby! Read!

In fact if you look at the video, it looks like the guy they arrested (in the gray shirt) was going into his back pocket for something, just before Casebolt went for his gun.

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The police on site with him disagreed to the point of coming to his side and trying to call him down when he pulled his gun. The chief of police also disagreed to the point that he made a press statement saying exactly that.
Prove it. Those teens are lucky.

Really? That far along in the discussion, and you want proof?

Well, okay, here goes:

Texas pool party chaos Police officer resigns - CNN.com

At a press conference Tuesday announcing Casebolt's resignation, the city's police chief called his actions in the video indefensible.

"Our policies, our training, our practice, do not support his actions," Police Chief Greg Conley said. "He came into the call out of control, and as the video shows, was out of control during the incident."
 
It does matter what he says. He's the fucking chief of police.
Big deal. Every chief of police in America, and all their bosses (mayors) are currently under the duress of the Obama Justice Dept which threatens lawsuits, that the cities can not afford to defend themselves against. Haven't you been paying attention to the news ? This has been going on for nearly a year now.

Yeah, cause everyone knows that it is Obama's fault that this police officer assaulted a 14 year old girl and pulled his gun out on two other teenagers attending a pool party. :afro:

1. He didn't "assault" anybody.

You are clearly in denial. I take it you haven't even bothered to watch the video of the incident.

2. He was justified in pulling his gun. Read the Op and watch the VIDEO.

No he most certainly was not justified.

3. It doesn't matter what everybody knows or thinks. Obama & Sharpton are scamming young blacks into voting Democrat, and threatening mayors with the Justice Dept. That's what's happening. Like it or nor.

Yeah, cause everyone knows that it is Obama's fault that this police officer assaulted a 14 year old girl and pulled his gun out on two other teenagers attending a pool party. Or not.

What are you , twelve years old?
 
The police on site with him disagreed to the point of coming to his side and trying to call him down when he pulled his gun. The chief of police also disagreed to the point that he made a press statement saying exactly that.
Prove it. Those teens are lucky.

Really? That far along in the discussion, and you want proof?

Well, okay, here goes:

Texas pool party chaos Police officer resigns - CNN.com

At a press conference Tuesday announcing Casebolt's resignation, the city's police chief called his actions in the video indefensible.

"Our policies, our training, our practice, do not support his actions," Police Chief Greg Conley said. "He came into the call out of control, and as the video shows, was out of control during the incident."
So what is that report supposed to "prove" ?
 
The police on site with him disagreed to the point of coming to his side and trying to call him down when he pulled his gun. The chief of police also disagreed to the point that he made a press statement saying exactly that.
Prove it. Those teens are lucky.

Really? That far along in the discussion, and you want proof?

Well, okay, here goes:

Texas pool party chaos Police officer resigns - CNN.com

At a press conference Tuesday announcing Casebolt's resignation, the city's police chief called his actions in the video indefensible.

"Our policies, our training, our practice, do not support his actions," Police Chief Greg Conley said. "He came into the call out of control, and as the video shows, was out of control during the incident."
So what is that report supposed to "prove" ?
Nothing
 
It only applies to armed suspects.

Revisiting the 21-Foot Rule - Article - POLICE Magazine

Neither of those boys were armed.
ANYONE attacking toward you is considered armed. You have no way of knowing if someone is carrying a knife which can be pulled in a FRACTION OF A SECOND, or if the attacker might seize your own gun. You have to be told this TWICE ?Read the OP.
Hmm your a troll. Besides he did not pull the gun until the kids were running away. Yeah shoot them in the back. Besides they were kids and any decent person would had done the same if someone in uniform or not was manhandling a 14 year old girl. In fact the disgusting cop went back and attacked the girl when she was just sitting there. Assault of a minor. I guess in your world you want kids shot and girls forced into submission for no reason, because there was no reason for it. Go donate to this bully cop, or hire him since you seem to be in love with him. Like it or not police are ambassitors of the state and are in the public eye, they are to be held to the highest standards because they have so much power, if they cannot handle it like casebolt they have no business being a policeman. When one screws up they all look bad. It is this way everywhere, and need to mend fences. They need to adopt military type evaluations, meaning they need to volunteer and work their off time with the communities and schools and habitat for humanity, and be evaluated ever quarter, if they do not they should be demoted. They need to get out in the communities and work with people. The military does this. If you do not volunteer time and effort in the community you get poor ratings which make it impossible to be promoted. Protect and serve. if you don't like it don't be a cop. Only responsible people need apply.
 
No he most certainly was not justified.
Looks like YOU are in denial. See the picture in Post # 21. And you haven't said a word about the 21 foot rule. That's because you know it destroys your silly argument.

Dude, do you even bother reading my posts? Try again, particularly what I said about the 21 feet rule. (note, it is feet, not foot).
 
Hmm your a troll. Besides he did not pull the gun until the kids were running away. Yeah shoot them in the back. Besides they were kids and any decent person would had done the same if someone in uniform or not was manhandling a 14 year old girl. In fact the disgusting cop went back and attacked the girl when she was just sitting there. Assault of a minor. I guess in your world you want kids shot and girls forced into submission for no reason, because there was no reason for it. Go donate to this bully cop, or hire him since you seem to be in love with him. Like it or not police are ambassitors of the state and are in the public eye, they are to be held to the highest standards because they have so much power, if they cannot handle it like casebolt they have no business being a policeman. When one screws up they all look bad. It is this way everywhere, and need to mend fences. They need to adopt military type evaluations, meaning they need to volunteer and work their off time with the communities and schools and habitat for humanity, and be evaluated ever quarter, if they do not they should be demoted. They need to get out in the communities and work with people. The military does this. If you do not volunteer time and effort in the community you get poor ratings which make it impossible to be promoted. Protect and serve. if you don't like it don't be a cop. Only responsible people need apply.
1. I'll let your dumb ass slide THIS TIME. If you call me a troll again, I'll report you.

2. Obviously, he was pulling his gun as he saw them approaching. You're either an idiot, or a baldfaced liar.

3. Doesn't matter if they were kids. The guy that looked like he was reaching into his back pocket for a weapon is 18 years old. Thousands of people (including cops) have been killed by 18 year olds.

4. The 14 or 15 year old girl was resisting arrest. She is supposed to be manhandled under that situation.

5. You don't know what reason there was for Casebolt to apprehend the girl. Where they first come in contact with each other isn't shown on the video. She must have committed a crime. So don't talk about what you don't know.

6. I already sent a email to the McKinney police that we would like to have Casebolt come here to Tampa to be on our police force.

7. Casebolt did not "screw up" Your perception (influenced by the biased media) is what is screwed up.

8. Police are ALREADY out in the communities, and working with people more than you know anything about.
 
Read my post #8, boo boo.
Yeah. That was REFUTED in Post # 10, and before that, in the OP. (doo doo) :biggrin:

You've gotten enough information from me, and the video, and the links about the 21 FOOT rule, to cure you of your media induced mental paralysis. You don't need any more help from me.

I'm off the computer now
 
Had he done as you suggest, he would be up for murder, or dead, as the other two policemen that restrained him would probably have shot him.
No, he would have been confirmed by the 21 foot rule, and if the other officers shot him, THEY would have been arrested for murder. You talk as if the 21 foot rule didn't exist. IT DOES (and has since 1988)

It only applies to armed suspects.

Revisiting the 21-Foot Rule - Article - POLICE Magazine

Neither of those boys were armed.

Yes. The 21 foot rule typically is for weapons. Particularly knives.

But sometimes its for "unarmed" people. If 3 people charge me...well...I cant win a hand to hand fight vs three men. So...if they get to me...my life is in danger.

If the attacker is Brock Lesnar or a former SEAL...and unarmed. ..id lose that fight too. Life is in danger.

2 unknown males swarming me as I made an arrest? Maybe. With ample backup there id say dont shoot. But...thats from our view on a couch. Casebolt didnt see what was behind him...or if they had weapons. Or may want his weapon.

It was all unknown.

Drawing the gun? Im 100% ok with that.
The two males immediately ran though....so absolutely not a good shoot. And he didnt shoot...so again....not sure what all the outrag is over.
 
It only applies to armed suspects.

Revisiting the 21-Foot Rule - Article - POLICE Magazine

Neither of those boys were armed.
ANYONE attacking toward you is considered armed. You have no way of knowing if someone is carrying a knife which can be pulled in a FRACTION OF A SECOND, or if the attacker might seize your own gun. You have to be told this TWICE ?Read the OP.

Yep.

If 6'3 260 pound former UFC heavyweight champion Brock Lesnar attacked a 5'9 160 pound cop....would that cop be justified shooting that "unarmed" man? Absolutely.
 
Had he done as you suggest, he would be up for murder, or dead, as the other two policemen that restrained him would probably have shot him.
No, he would have been confirmed by the 21 foot rule, and if the other officers shot him, THEY would have been arrested for murder. You talk as if the 21 foot rule didn't exist. IT DOES (and has since 1988)

It only applies to armed suspects.

Revisiting the 21-Foot Rule - Article - POLICE Magazine

Neither of those boys were armed.

Yes. The 21 foot rule typically is for weapons. Particularly knives.

But sometimes its for "unarmed" people. If 3 people charge me...well...I cant win a hand to hand fight vs three men. So...if they get to me...my life is in danger.

If the attacker is Brock Lesnar or a former SEAL...and unarmed. ..id lose that fight too. Life is in danger.

2 unknown males swarming me as I made an arrest? Maybe. With ample backup there id say dont shoot. But...thats from our view on a couch. Casebolt didnt see what was behind him...or if they had weapons. Or may want his weapon.

It was all unknown.

Drawing the gun? Im 100% ok with that.
The two males immediately ran though....so absolutely not a good shoot. And he didnt shoot...so again....not sure what all the outrag is over.

You cannot convince me that this guy pulling his gun on two unarmed teenagers who were backing away from him - in the middle of an area where dozens of kids were standing by, and when other police officers were also present, was an appropriate thing to do. The police chief said flat out that they officer was out of control, that his actions were counter to department policy. If he has fired that weapon, the chances were very high that he would have struck, and likely killed an innocent child. As it was, he was already in the process of assaulting a young girl. For anyone to justify this man's actions is just as outrageous as his actions.
 
Had he done as you suggest, he would be up for murder, or dead, as the other two policemen that restrained him would probably have shot him.
No, he would have been confirmed by the 21 foot rule, and if the other officers shot him, THEY would have been arrested for murder. You talk as if the 21 foot rule didn't exist. IT DOES (and has since 1988)

It only applies to armed suspects.

Revisiting the 21-Foot Rule - Article - POLICE Magazine

Neither of those boys were armed.

Yes. The 21 foot rule typically is for weapons. Particularly knives.

But sometimes its for "unarmed" people. If 3 people charge me...well...I cant win a hand to hand fight vs three men. So...if they get to me...my life is in danger.

If the attacker is Brock Lesnar or a former SEAL...and unarmed. ..id lose that fight too. Life is in danger.

2 unknown males swarming me as I made an arrest? Maybe. With ample backup there id say dont shoot. But...thats from our view on a couch. Casebolt didnt see what was behind him...or if they had weapons. Or may want his weapon.

It was all unknown.

Drawing the gun? Im 100% ok with that.
The two males immediately ran though....so absolutely not a good shoot. And he didnt shoot...so again....not sure what all the outrag is over.

You cannot convince me that this guy pulling his gun on two unarmed teenagers who were backing away from him - in the middle of an area where dozens of kids were standing by, and when other police officers were also present, was an appropriate thing to do. The police chief said flat out that they officer was out of control, that his actions were counter to department policy. If he has fired that weapon, the chances were very high that he would have struck, and likely killed an innocent child. As it was, he was already in the process of assaulting a young girl. For anyone to justify this man's actions is just as outrageous as his actions.
Well you are an idiot libtard so you wouldn't know the truth anyway. I saw the video, the officer was completely justified.
 
Had he done as you suggest, he would be up for murder, or dead, as the other two policemen that restrained him would probably have shot him.
No, he would have been confirmed by the 21 foot rule, and if the other officers shot him, THEY would have been arrested for murder. You talk as if the 21 foot rule didn't exist. IT DOES (and has since 1988)

It only applies to armed suspects.

Revisiting the 21-Foot Rule - Article - POLICE Magazine

Neither of those boys were armed.

Yes. The 21 foot rule typically is for weapons. Particularly knives.

But sometimes its for "unarmed" people. If 3 people charge me...well...I cant win a hand to hand fight vs three men. So...if they get to me...my life is in danger.

If the attacker is Brock Lesnar or a former SEAL...and unarmed. ..id lose that fight too. Life is in danger.

2 unknown males swarming me as I made an arrest? Maybe. With ample backup there id say dont shoot. But...thats from our view on a couch. Casebolt didnt see what was behind him...or if they had weapons. Or may want his weapon.

It was all unknown.

Drawing the gun? Im 100% ok with that.
The two males immediately ran though....so absolutely not a good shoot. And he didnt shoot...so again....not sure what all the outrag is over.

You cannot convince me that this guy pulling his gun on two unarmed teenagers who were backing away from him - in the middle of an area where dozens of kids were standing by, and when other police officers were also present, was an appropriate thing to do. The police chief said flat out that they officer was out of control, that his actions were counter to department policy. If he has fired that weapon, the chances were very high that he would have struck, and likely killed an innocent child. As it was, he was already in the process of assaulting a young girl. For anyone to justify this man's actions is just as outrageous as his actions.
Well you are an idiot libtard so you wouldn't know the truth anyway. I saw the video, the officer was completely justified.

And that is why people like you are part of the problem in this country.

Longtime McKinney Officer Blasts Police Conduct At Pool Party Says Department Has A Race Problem ThinkProgress

Pete Schutle, a former McKinney police officer and “longtime reserve deputy,” spoke to Fox4 Dallas and blasted the conduct of Eric Casebolt, the police corporal shown slamming a 15-year-old girl in a swimsuit to the ground.

“I don’t care what she was yelling at that officer. Anything would not have justified throwing her to the ground and pushing her down and throwing her face into the concrete like he did,” Schutle said.

Schulte also said there was no reason for Casebolt to have drawn his weapon and described Casebolt’s reaction to the situation as “crazy.”

According to Schulte, the video indicates that the McKinney police had a race problem. “There is an indication based on watching the video that the white people who were around the officers weren’t talked to, they weren’t pushed away, they weren’t told to get on the ground, they weren’t put in handcuffs. The only individuals McKinney police were doing that to were those that were African-American,” he said.
 
Had he done as you suggest, he would be up for murder, or dead, as the other two policemen that restrained him would probably have shot him.
No, he would have been confirmed by the 21 foot rule, and if the other officers shot him, THEY would have been arrested for murder. You talk as if the 21 foot rule didn't exist. IT DOES (and has since 1988)

It only applies to armed suspects.

Revisiting the 21-Foot Rule - Article - POLICE Magazine

Neither of those boys were armed.

Yes. The 21 foot rule typically is for weapons. Particularly knives.

But sometimes its for "unarmed" people. If 3 people charge me...well...I cant win a hand to hand fight vs three men. So...if they get to me...my life is in danger.

If the attacker is Brock Lesnar or a former SEAL...and unarmed. ..id lose that fight too. Life is in danger.

2 unknown males swarming me as I made an arrest? Maybe. With ample backup there id say dont shoot. But...thats from our view on a couch. Casebolt didnt see what was behind him...or if they had weapons. Or may want his weapon.

It was all unknown.

Drawing the gun? Im 100% ok with that.
The two males immediately ran though....so absolutely not a good shoot. And he didnt shoot...so again....not sure what all the outrag is over.

You cannot convince me that this guy pulling his gun on two unarmed teenagers who were backing away from him - in the middle of an area where dozens of kids were standing by, and when other police officers were also present, was an appropriate thing to do. The police chief said flat out that they officer was out of control, that his actions were counter to department policy. If he has fired that weapon, the chances were very high that he would have struck, and likely killed an innocent child. As it was, he was already in the process of assaulting a young girl. For anyone to justify this man's actions is just as outrageous as his actions.

Yes...the two males who swarmed him did back away...BECAUSE he drew a gun. What if he stays there and keeps trying to detain the girl? Do they assault him? Swarm him? We dont kmow. He didnt give them a chance.
 
Hmm your a troll. Besides he did not pull the gun until the kids were running away. Yeah shoot them in the back. Besides they were kids and any decent person would had done the same if someone in uniform or not was manhandling a 14 year old girl. In fact the disgusting cop went back and attacked the girl when she was just sitting there. Assault of a minor. I guess in your world you want kids shot and girls forced into submission for no reason, because there was no reason for it. Go donate to this bully cop, or hire him since you seem to be in love with him. Like it or not police are ambassitors of the state and are in the public eye, they are to be held to the highest standards because they have so much power, if they cannot handle it like casebolt they have no business being a policeman. When one screws up they all look bad. It is this way everywhere, and need to mend fences. They need to adopt military type evaluations, meaning they need to volunteer and work their off time with the communities and schools and habitat for humanity, and be evaluated ever quarter, if they do not they should be demoted. They need to get out in the communities and work with people. The military does this. If you do not volunteer time and effort in the community you get poor ratings which make it impossible to be promoted. Protect and serve. if you don't like it don't be a cop. Only responsible people need apply.
1. I'll let your dumb ass slide THIS TIME. If you call me a troll again, I'll report you.

2. Obviously, he was pulling his gun as he saw them approaching. You're either an idiot, or a baldfaced liar.

3. Doesn't matter if they were kids. The guy that looked like he was reaching into his back pocket for a weapon is 18 years old. Thousands of people (including cops) have been killed by 18 year olds.

4. The 14 or 15 year old girl was resisting arrest. She is supposed to be manhandled under that situation.

5. You don't know what reason there was for Casebolt to apprehend the girl. Where they first come in contact with each other isn't shown on the video. She must have committed a crime. So don't talk about what you don't know.

6. I already sent a email to the McKinney police that we would like to have Casebolt come here to Tampa to be on our police force.

7. Casebolt did not "screw up" Your perception (influenced by the biased media) is what is screwed up.

8. Police are ALREADY out in the communities, and working with people more than you know anything about.
Ok since we're talking about unknowns, you do not know that she did commit a crime but assume she did, as you said she must had committed a crime. Second in earlier posts you said they came up behind him which they never did. But you and even hannity on fox said they came up behind him... That was a lie.report me dude because you are a troll and I will give you the benefit of the doubt and say you can't possible believe the crap that your saying. No one could be that stupid. Hence you must be a troll trying to get a reaction. Lol
 

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