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But it does not tell us HOW to resist the devil. In our own power, we cannot resist him 100% all the timeIn James 4:7, we are reminded to “submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.” This verse sounds like a very confronting passage that we all need to understand fully in sections by taking the verse into context.
Submit yourself to God. It's right theirBut it does not tell us HOW to resist the devil. In our own power, we cannot resist him 100% all the time
But we need to or we are doomed. Therefore, Jesus, who knew all about Satan, gave us a CHURCH, against which "the gates of Hell shall not prevail" (Sacraments.. Eucharist in particular)
Gods give ultimatums
Thou shalt not...... or else
But it does not tell us HOW to resist the devil. In our own power, we cannot resist him 100% all the time
But we need to or we are doomed. Therefore, Jesus, who knew all about Satan, gave us a CHURCH, against which "the gates of Hell shall not prevail" (Sacraments.. Eucharist in particular)
Yeah fumy how most of any god's demands are for worshipHmm. Kind of like, Danger! Quicksand!
Heed the sign... or else!
Instead of thinking "Ultimatum" think of advice that steps one around unstable behaviors and their consequences to self and others.
I've read the bible OT and NT more than once, I've read the Koran. I've read Thomas Aquinas, and dozens of othersThey are certainly not your interpretation of Biblical man's presentation of God's presence in our midst. You are speaking to people who do not share your interpretations--for good reason. They are not the intent of the original author and we are not the ones ignorant of that author's original intent.
There is no need for anyone to remain ignorant. There is plenty of scholarly study available.
And disobeying t hose command results in what?Your twisted idea of God is sad, it's no wonder you don't believe. I wouldn't believe in that strawman "god" either.
God gives us commands (which are wise and for our own benefit) but He is not the tyrannical mean-spirited slave driver that you seem to think He is, in your twisted caricature. I truly hope that one day you'll realize that.
That is where etymology and a bit of understanding of the Hebrew language comes in handy. Meekness, humility, worship in the original context is about self-control, that we put God and His ways first in how we live our lives. It had little to do with spending our lives kneeling or bowing in prayer.Yeah fumy how most of any god's demands are for worship
You'd think a supreme being wouldn't need its ego stoked like that
Plenty of people who don't worship gods live good lives.That is where etymology and a bit of understanding of the Hebrew language comes in handy. Meekness, humility, worship in the original context is about self-control, that we put God and His ways first in how we live our lives. It had little to do with spending our lives kneeling or bowing in prayer.
For those who hold no belief in God, it would still be about the self-control necessary to choose goodness or the ideal in our actions and choices. Think of it this way. If we worship God in all we do, that means when we get in our vehicles to drive to work, we have the self control to drive well and to be patient and loving towards other drivers.
So...worship, like the rest of God's advice, is not about Him, it is about us.
Yet you continue to use one interpretation.I've read the bible OT and NT more than once
Wow! Knock me over with a feather! I must be totally blind to the lives my atheist grandfather, my husband and inlaws, my various atheist friends and co-workers are living. Thank you for opening my eyes, Captain Obvious.Plenty of people who don't worship gods live good lives.
Just a different one than yoursYet you continue to use one interpretation.
No Bible or gods neededWow! Knock me over with a feather! I must be totally blind to the lives my atheist grandfather, my husband and inlaws, my various atheist friends and co-workers are living. Thank you for opening my eyes, Captain Obvious.
And there you are wrong. The interpretation you espouse is one I have--just not the only one. It is the most! The most boring, that is. I compare it to those who thrive in close places, agoraphobics, recluses, etc. who avoid the wide open spaces.Just a different one than yours
Yes you are the most enlightened aren't you the rest of us mere mortals are nothing but cave dwellers.And there you are wrong. The interpretation you espouse is one I have--just not the only one. It is the most! The most boring, that is. I compare it to those who thrive in close places, agoraphobics, recluses, etc. who avoid the wide open spaces.
Again, thank you, Captain Obvious. Of course they are not needed! Do you even know an atheist, let alone live in their midst?No Bible or gods needed
Again, thank you, Captain Obvious. Of course they are not needed! Do you even know an atheist, let alone live in their midst?
Yeah, "enlightened" like those who win at Trivial Pursuit (a game). Knowledge of the trivia of a single book is not enlightenment.Yes you are the most enlightened aren't you the rest of us mere mortals are nothing but cave dwellers.
Wow! Knock me over with a feather! I must be totally blind to the lives my atheist grandfather, my husband and inlaws, my various atheist friends and co-workers are living. Thank you for opening my eyes, Captain Obvious.
