Should Muslims be labelled a 'Hate Group'?

[Taz]

Revisionist history. The Islamic rule in Spain is littered with atrocities and battles to control the Christian population.
Islam also takes credit for the converts already educated in Western sciences. Islam only takes, it does not give anything. That is also stated in the Koran.

Both Jews and Christians practiced their freely in Spain under Islamic rule, if Muslims as barbaric as you said they could've forced all Christians to either convert or die....they ruled southern Europe for centuries....Europe was in the dark ages, they brought civilisation to it. But you too arrogant to admit history facts.

Education:

First ever university was built a woman in fez Morocco, ans after the moors built many other universities in And Alicia. (Cordoba, Granada,....)

Health:

Tulun, a surgeon named Al-Zahrawi, often called the “father of surgery,” wrote an illustrated encyclopedia that would ultimately be used as a guide to European surgeons for the next five hundred years. Al-Zarawhi’s surgical instruments, such as scalpels, bone saws, and forceps are still used by modern surgeons. Al-Zahrawi is also reportedly the first surgeon to perform a caesarean operation.

Another significant Muslim discovery came in the 13th century, when the Muslim medic Ibn Nafis described the pulmonary circulation almost three hundred years before William Harvey, the English physician who is believed by many Westerners to have “discovered” it. The technique of inoculation, or the introduction of an antigenic substance or vaccine into the body to induce immunity to a disease, is also said to have been designed by Muslims in Turkey and brought to Europe by the wife of England’s Turkish ambassador in 1724.

We gonna need days to list all the science discoveries and contributions of Muslims to better the lives of humans.

Ask any medical student engineer, astrologist, scientist, philosopher, mathematician, ect....go to South of Spain, Damascus, Baghdad, Cairo and see history for yourself and compare it to what Muslims achieved and whay were the Europeans doing at that time.

I only cite things like to those who think that they are superior to others....my moro we are all humans, and we have bad and good in every race and civilisation and we should co exist.

Here is some Islamic science.

Qur’an 18:83
“They ask you about Dhu’l-Qarnain [Alexander the Great]. Say, ‘I will cite some-
thing of his story. We gave him authority in the land and means of accomplishing his goals.
So he followed a path until he reached the setting place of the sun. He saw that it set in
black, muddy, hot water. Near it he found people.”

http://www.prophetofdoom.net/pdf/Prophet_of_Doom_Appendix_Quotes.pdf
On coexistence.

“In the Muslim community, the holy war is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the [Muslim] mission and [the obligation to] convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force. Therefore, caliphate and royal authority are united [in Islam], so that the person in charge can devote the available strength to both of them [i.e. religion and politics] at the same time. The other religious groups did not have a universal mission, and the holy war was not a religious duty for them, save only for purposes of defense... Islam is under obligation to gain power over other nations.” (Muqaddimah)

Table of Contents IslamicSupremacism.org - A Short Course Previous Page Next Page 28 More Classic Jurist Opinions on Islamic Supremacism & Jihad Chronologically, 635 - 1800 AD 3 are Sufi Notice these are not cherry picked examples of Extremists™, rather they are revered in the Islamic world as among the most authoritative “classic jurists” in history, as the last page was. Scan their qualifications now, look at what they said later - you will see they are all open ended instructions to Muslims concerning relations with all non-Muslims, affirming Koran 9:29 is good for all times and places, and not just historical descriptions of events. Hitler, “Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation.” Mein Kampf. If you are scanning this page, bold numbers are most noteworthy. 6) Abu Bakr (d. 635) - 1st successor to Muhammad, 1st of the “4 rightly guided caliphs”. He is quoted in Bukhari 2:23:483. He led the apostate wars, and is the namesake of the first Islamic State caliph in 2014 Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi. 7) Umar ibn al-Khattab (~580 - 644) - 2nd successor to Muhammad, 2nd of the “4 rightly guided caliphs.” Umar is also quoted in Bukhari. The famous Pact of Umar was a peace treaty between the Caliph Umar and the Christians of Syria., who promised to abide by a detailed list of humiliating concessions as 2nd class citizens, that became a model for other places under Islamic law. The origin of this document is uncertain, but the “classic jurists” have taken it very seriously and quote from it, as you already saw with Ghazali on the last page. Umar on IS&J. 8) `Abdullah ibn `Abbas (~618 - 687) - said to be a paternal cousin of Muhammad. He is quoted in Bukhari and other hadith. During his life he was called The Great Scholar of the Ummah. “... famous for his deep insight, profound learning, keen memory, high intelligence, and perceptiveness.” He narrated about 1600 traditions (hadith), and wrote a complete commentary on the Koran Tafsir Ibn Abbas. ibn Abbas on IS&J. 9) Abu Yusuf (Yaqub ibn Ibrahim al-Ansari) (731 - 798) - Famous Hanafi jurist, one of the most important disciples of Abu Hanifa (founder of the Hanafi school). Judge in Baghdad, and later Chief Justice (qadi al-qudat) under Abbasid caliph Harun al-Rashid. Abu Yusuf on IS&J. 10) Muhammad al-Shaybani (754 - 811) - Famous Hanafi jurist, another of the most important disciples of Abu Hanifa. Author of several authoritative works, particularly an important work on jihad, The Islamic Law of Nations. al-Shaybani on IS&J. 11) Imam Al-Shafi’i (767 - 820) - founder of the Shafi’i school, jurist, one of the “4 great imams”. Disciple of al-Shaybani and Imam Malik (founder of the Maliki school): Al-Shafi'i on IS&J. 12) Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari (~838 - 923) - Very famous Persian Islamic scholar, historian, and prolific writer, “one of the major mujtahid Imams”, memorized Koran at 7. Most famous for his massive commentary on the Qur'an Tafsir al-Tabari, an equally large History of Prophets and Kings, and an encyclopedia of jurisprudence entitled al-Basit. al-Tabari on (9:29). 13) Ibn Abi Zayd al-Qayrawani (922 - 996) - Maliki jurist, “He was the Imam of the Malikis in his time, and their model.” Wrote the very well known Treatise on Maliki Fiqh available free on line today, La Risala. al-Qayrawani on IS&J 14) Abu Al-Hasan Al-Mawardi (972-1058) - Shafi'i jurist, Chief Justice in Baghdad, sociologist, considered as one of the most famous thinkers in political science in the middle ages before ibn Khaldun. Wrote several important books on Islamic governance, some translated into various languages. Al-Mawardi on IS&J. 15) Abu Ishaq Elbiri (11th century) - well-known Muslim jurist and poet of his time. In 1066, shortly before an estimated 4,000 Jews were killed in Muslim ruled Spain during the Golden Age™, he wrote: “Do not consider that killing them is treachery. Nay, it would be treachery to leave them scoffing. Bostom: Jihad and Islamic Antisemitism More Abu Ishaq on IS&J. 16) Ibn Abdun (d. 1134) - Maliki jurist in Andalusia, gave these legal opinions regarding Jews and Christians in Seville around 1100AD, during the Golden Age in Spain. “He emphasized that the qadi, a jurist should be a man of prudence, compassion, impartiality, and learning...” Ibn Abdun. on IS. 17) al-Zamakshari (~1075 - 1144) - “Persian renown for his great scholarship of the Qur'an and his magnificent mastery of the Arabic language. Scholars of all ranks and schools of thought have tremendous regard for him... His monumental work al-Kashaf `an Haqa'iq al-Tanzil wa `Uyun al-Aqawil fi Wujuh al-Ta'wil, is celebrated for its genius and linguistic depth.” From his Tafsir (Koran commentary), about al-Zamakshari on IS&J. 18) Shaikh Burhanuddin Ali of Marghinan (1135 - 1196) - Hanafi jurist, from his famous manual of Sunni law the Hidaya, which is considered an authoritative guide in Central Asia, Afghanistan, and India. This is not a historical account, it is a timeless religious ruling by an influential Hanafi jurist. “...[jihad] is established as a divine ordinance, by the word of God, who said in the Quran, ‘Slay the infidels,‘ and also by saying of the Prophet, ‘War is permanently established until the Day of Judgment.’ When the Muslims enter the enemy’s country and besiege the cities or strongholds of the infidels, it is necessary to invite them to embrace the faith, because Ibn ‘Abbas relates of the Prophet that he never destroyed any without previously inviting them to embrace the faith... If the infidels, upon receiving the call, neither consent to it nor agree to pay capitation tax, it is then incumbent on the Muslims to call upon God for assistance, and to make war upon them...; the Prophet, moreover, commands us so to do.” More Hidaya on Jihad 19) Ibn Qudamah al-Maqdisi (1147-1223) - Hanbali jurist, noted Islamic scholar and author of many treatises of Hanbali jurisprudence and doctrine, including al-Mughni (the most widely known textbook of Hanbali fiqh). Ibn Kathir (listed below) said of him, "proficient, there was not found in his era nor before it by a long span of time, anyone possessing more fiqh – understanding of the religion – than him." al-Maqdisi on IS&J. 20) Yahya ibn Sharaf al-Nawawi (~1234-1278) - Shafi'i jurist, Syrian, author, wrote “numerous works of great importance” including Riyad-us Saliheen, and Minhaj al-Talibin, both classical shafi'i manuals of Islamic Law. al-Nawawi on IS&J. 21) 'Abdallah ibn 'Umar al-Baydawi (~1286-1316) - Shafi’i jurist, chief judge of Shiraz, Persian scholar, writer. In his important Qur’anic exegesis The Secrets of Revelation and The Secrets of Interpretation, he gives this ruling on Qur’an 5:82 & 2:61, about the Jews “humiliation and wretchedness”. 22) Abu Mansur Hasan bin Yusuf Al-Hilli (1250-1326) - Shi’ite jurist, “one of the greatest Muslim jurist and scholars of his time”, prolific writer. Al-Hilli on IS&J. 23) Ibn al-Qayyim al-Jawziyya (1292-1350) - Hanbali jurist, important disciple of Ibn Tamiyyah, eventually becoming his successor Imam. Qur'anic commentator, teacher, most notably of Ibn Kathir. He is often quoted by other Muslims in their rulings on jihad. For example here. 24) Ziauddin Barani (1285-1357) - Indian jurist, historian, political thinker, writer, companion of Sultan Muhammad b. Tughluq. He pleads for an all out struggle against Hinduism, and discusses whether jizya should be accepted from them, as it is from the People of the Book - Jews and Christians. Barani on IS&J. 25) Ahmad Ibn Naqib al-Misri (1302-1368AD) - compiled Reliance of the Traveller. On IS&J: “Jihad means to war against non-Muslims, and is etymologically derived from the word mujahada signifying warfare to establish the religion. And it is the lesser jihad. As for the greater jihad, it is spiritual warfare against the lower self...” (Reliance o9.0) That’s all it says about the “greater jihad”, then spends 11 pages explaining the “lesser jihad” like this:
 “The caliph makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians . . . until they become Muslim or pay the non-Muslim poll tax.” (o9.8) there’s a comment added from a Jordanian jurist: the caliph wages this war only “provided that he has first invited [Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians] to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya) . . . while remaining in their ancestral religions... Though, if there is no caliph, no permission is required [to fight jihad].” (o9.6) Certified by al-Azhar University in 1991  "conforms to the practice and faith of the orthodox Sunni community." Reliance of the Traveller quotes K-47:35 then says Muslims shouldn’t make truces in war when they are uppermost, only when weak, and never for more than 10 years (o9.16). Reliance of the Traveller on Christians, inspired by the 7th century Pact of Umar above: "... forbidden to ring church bells or display crosses, recite the Torah or Evangel aloud, or make public display of their funerals and feast days, and are forbidden to build new churches." (Reliance o.11.5,6,7) 26) Ibn Kathir (1323-1396) - Shafi’i jurist, Syrian disciple of Ibn Taymiyya, a ‘qadi’, hafiz (memorized the Koran), master scholar of history and the Qur’an. His 5,000 page commentary Tafsir Ibn Kathir is “famous all over the Muslim world and among Muslims in the Western world, and is one of the most widely used explanations of the Qu’ran today”. In it he gives this commentary on the Pact of Umar “treaty of peace”: “Paying Jizya Is a Sign of Kufr and Disgrace” “Allah said “until they pay the Jizya,” if they do not choose to embrace Islam, “with willing submission” in defeat and subservience, “and feel themselves subdued,” disgraced, humiliated and belittled. Therefore, Muslims are not allowed to honor the people of Dhimma or elevate them above Muslims, for they are miserable, disgraced, and humiliated. Muslim recorded from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet said, “Do not initiate the Salam to the Jews and the Christians, and if you meet them in a road, force them to its narrowest alley.” (Muslim B.26, #5389) This is why the leader of the faithful ‘Umar... demanded his well known conditions to be met by the Christians, these conditions that ensured their continued humiliation, degradation, and disgrace. The scholars of Hadith narrated from Abdur-Rahman... the terms of the treaty of peace he conducted with the Christians: This is a document to... ‘Umar the leader of the faithful, for the Christians of such and such a city. When you [Muslims] came to us we requested safety for ourselves, children, property and followers of our religion. We made a condition on ourselves that we will neither erect in our areas a monastery, church, or a sanctuary for a monk, nor restore any place of worship that needs restoration... We will respect Muslims, move from places we sit in if they choose to sit in them...” And so on, he finishes the rest of the Pact of Umar. (Tafsir Ibn Kathir (Riyadh, 2000), vol 4, pp. 404-407) More Ibn Kathir on IS&J. 27) Ibn Khaldun (1332-1406) - Maliki jurist, “The most important figure in the field of History and Sociology in Muslim History. He is one of those shining stars that contributed so richly to the understanding of Civilization." Professor John Esposito, Ph.D., taught a class Introduction to Islamic Civilization where a month was spent on part IV Ibn Khaldun on Islamic Civilization. From Khaldun’s famous Muqaddimah: An Introduction to History: “We do not think that we should blacken the pages of this book with discussion of their [Christian] dogmas of unbelief. In general, they are well known. All of them are unbelief. This is clearly stated in the noble Koran. To discuss or argue those things with them is not up to us. It is for them to choose between conversion to Islam, payment of the poll tax, or death.” (Vol 1, p. 473) Ibn Khaldun  Celebrated Supremacist “In the Muslim community, the holy war is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the [Muslim] mission and [the obligation to] convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force. Therefore, caliphate and royal authority are united [in Islam], so that the person in charge can devote the available strength to both of them [i.e. religion and politics] at the same time. The other religious groups did not have a universal mission, and the holy war was not a religious duty for them, save only for purposes of defense... Islam is under obligation to gain power over other nations.” (Muqaddimah) 28) Shaykh Muhammad b. Abd al-Karim al-Maghili (d.~1504) - From present day Algeria. Led a successful campaign to expel the city's Jews: “On the day of payment [the dhimmis] shall be assembled in a public place like the suq. They should be standing there waiting in the lowest and dirtiest place. The acting officials representing the Law shall ... adopt a threatening attitude so that it seems to them, as well as to the others, that our object is to degrade them by pretending to take their possessions. They will realize that we are doing them a favor (again) in accepting from them the jizya and letting them go free. Then they shall be dragged one by one ... for the exacting of payment. When paying, the dhimmi will receive a blow and will be thrust aside so that he will think that he has escaped the sword through this (insult). This is the way that the friends of the Lord, of the first and last generations, will act toward their infidel enemies, for might belongs to Allah, to His Apostle, and to the Believers.” (From Ahkam ahl al-Dhimma Faith Freedom International Quotes from Islamic jurists) 29) Imam Al-Suyuti (1445-1505) - Sufi, Hanafi jurist, famous Egyptian writer, multidisciplinary scholar. Memorized the Koran at 8. The mujtahid imam and foremost hadith master, historian, biographer, he authored works in virtually every Islamic science. Recognized as the most prolific author in the realm of Islamic literature, writing nearly 600 books and treatises, including co-compiling the most widespread condensed commentary of Qur'an in our time, Tafsir al-Jalalayn. Note his Sufi mysticism did not conflict with his views here on (9:29). 30) Fadl-Ullah bin Ruzbihan Isfahani (1456 - 1521) - Shafi’i jurist, said this in his Muslim Conduct of State: Suluk ul-Muluk, summarizing Shafi'i and Hanafi law. 31) Shaikh Abdul Quddus Gangoh (~1456~1537) - Sufi Indian poet, among the most prominent Sufi Shaykhs of the Chishti Silsila branch. Scholar K.S. Lal says: “Gangoh need be cited because he belonged to the Chishtia Silsila considered to be the most tolerant of all Sufi groups. He wrote letters to the Sultan Sikandar Lodi, Babur, and Humayun to re—invigorate the Sharia and reduce the Hindus to payers of land tax and jizya. To Babur he wrote: “No non—Muslim should be given any office or employment in the Diwan of Islam... Furthermore, in conformity with the principles of the Shariat they should be subjected to all types of indignities and humiliations. They should be made to pay the jizya...They should be disallowed from donning the dress of the Muslims... They should not be allowed to consider themselves the equal to the Muslims.” (K.S. Lal, The Legacy of Muslim Rule in India, New Delhi, Aditya Prakashan, 1992, p. 237, Quotes from Islamic jurists) 32) Muhammad Taqi al-Majlisi (~1616–1698) - authoritative Shi’ite jurist and prolific hadith collector, educated in Islamic philosophy and mysticism. Author of over 100 books in Arabic and Persian, including one of the most important hadith collections to Shia, Bihar al-Anwar. Had a very close relationship with at least 2 of the Safavid monarchs, Shah Sulayman (d.1694), who in 1686 appointed him the “Sheik of Islam” in Isfahan, and Shah Sultan Husayn (d.1713) who in 1694 changed his title to Mullabashi, he was the highest religious and executive authority during those times. During his last four years under Husayn he was the de facto ruler of Iran.“ (Andrew Bostom Legacy of Jihad) “Some say that they [the dhimmis] should not be informed of the amount of the jizya so that they should live continuously, in the course of the year, in a state of anxiety and agitation. [...] ... It is also incumbent upon Muslims that they should not accept from them victuals with which they had come into contact, such as distillates <and oils>, which cannot be purified. If something can be purified, such as clothes, if they are dry, they can be accepted, they are clean. But if they [the dhimmis] had come into contact with those cloths in moisture they should be rinsed with water after being obtained… It would also be better if the ruler of the Muslims would establish that all infidels could not move out of their homes on days when it rains or snows because they would make Muslims impure... Muslims should also be urged to show disrespect toward them [the dhimmis].” More al-Maqdisi on IS. (Excerpted from "Risala-ya Sawa'iq al-Yahud [The Treatise Lightning Bolts against the Jews]." English translation by V.B. Moreen in Die Welt des Islams 32 (1992): 187-193.) (Andrew Bostom Legacy of Jihad) 33) Shah Aladihlawi Wali-Allah (1703–1762) - Sufi, Hanafi jurist, Islamic scholar from Delhi. Memorized Koran at 7. “One of the greatest religious thinkers produced by Muslim India... endowed with saintly qualities.” Authored 23 books in Arabic, and 28 in Persian. In spite of his Sufi mysticism, he said: “It has become clear to my mind that the kingdom of heaven has predestined that kafirs should be reduced to a state of humiliation and treated with utter contempt.” More Wali-Allah on IS&J. Obama in his 2009 Cairo speech at al-Azhar said: “And when the first Muslim-American was recently elected to Congress, he took the oath to defend our Constitution using the same Holy Koran that one of our Founding Fathers – Thomas Jefferson – kept in his personal library.” That’s deceptive: Sidi Haji Abdrahaman (in 1786) - Maybe not a religious authority so I am not giving him a number, but he was Tripoli’s Ambassador to London giving his opinion on IS&J. Jefferson’s interest in the Koran had to do with getting to know the Muslim (Barbary) pirates before they went to war. Christopher Hitchens explains: “...in 1786, the new United States found that it was having to deal ... with ... the Muslim religion. The Barbary states of North Africa ... were using the ports of today's Algeria, Libya, and Tunisia to wage a war of piracy and enslavement against all shipping that passed through the Strait of Gibraltar. Thousands of vessels were taken, and more than a million Europeans and Americans sold into slavery. The fledgling United States of America was in an especially difficult position, having forfeited the protection of the British Royal Navy. Under this pressure, Congress gave assent to the Treaty of Tripoli... which stated roundly that "the government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion, as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen." ... Jefferson and John Adams ... went to call on Tripoli's envoy to London, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman. They asked him by what right he extorted money and took slaves in this way. As Jefferson later reported to Congress: “The ambassador answered us that [the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.” C. Hitchens - Jefferson's Koran Medieval historian Raymond Ibrahim, from The Historical Reality of the Muslim Conquests: “Because it is now almost axiomatic for American school textbooks to whitewash all things Islamic (see here for example), it may be useful to examine one of those aspects that are regularly distorted: the Muslim conquests. Few events of history are so well documented and attested to as are these conquests, which commenced soon after the death of the Muslim prophet Muhammad (632) and tapered off circa 750. Large swathes of the Old World—from the India in the east, to Spain in the west—were conquered and consolidated by the sword of Islam during this time. By the standards of history, the reality of these conquests is unassailable, for history proper concerns itself with primary sources; and the Islamic conquests are thoroughly documented. More importantly, the overwhelming majority of primary source materials we rely on do not come from non-Muslims, who might be accused of bias. Rather, the foremost historians bequeathing to posterity thousands of pages of source materials documenting the Islamic conquests were not only Muslims themselves; they were—and still are—regarded by today’s Muslims as pious and trustworthy scholars (generically, the ulema).“ Forward to Consequences of Rejecting Reason

Last few hundreds of years...who went around killing millions upon millions and force Christianity on indigenous people, make them slaves and steal their resources?
Who started WW1 and WW2? Vietnam? Korean war? Iraq invasion? Regime changes...sells arms and bombs to hostile regimes and terrorist groups? MUslims?

Where have you been in the last 100 years------who committed genocide upon the Christians of
Nigeria and Uganda? Who committed genocide upon the Christians of both ARMENIA AND
TURKEY-----who did east Pakistan ? ------learn a bit of history------you guys were ADOLF's
faves------of course he did reject Christianity but he did not reject islam. Who is MURDERING so
HAPPILY TODAY in the name of the rapist of mecca?. Did you ever hear of GENGHIS KHAN-----
he LOVED ISLAM for what it did for him---------build a following that murdered in the HUNDREDS OF
MILLIONS (lots of muslims reject the idea that he was actually a PIOUS muslim------only his
minions were--------genocide upon the Zoroastrians too) Feel free to ask questions----my very own hubby
was born in a shariah shit hole in the status of DHIMMI------(as were the Christians and jews of muslim spain)-------feel free to ask questions about your history. You may know very little about it------if you were
born in a shariah shit hole------chances are that your recent ancestors were illiterate

Point by point:

Genocide in Nigeria by Muslims? in what text book is this? if you gonna call what Boko Haram terrorist acts as a genocide than what will the US wars would be called?
and In Nigeria christians and Muslims leave side by side, they even elected a Muslim president and Christians are the majority....surprising isnt it?

Armenia and Turkey tha'ts a problem between 2 nations and not two religions.

Timothy Mcveigh and others don't represent Christianity and same goes for the Bin laden and his likes. Hard to understand?

I by now know that your hubby lived in a Muslim country? you know how? You said a zillion times, we get it he was tortured, killed but somehomw now he's alive and sound.

Muslims want to live or do live by sharia, a hateful and barbaric system. And as a bonus, we hate them for it. Therefore, they're a hate group.

 

[Taz]

Here is some Islamic science.
http://www.prophetofdoom.net/pdf/Prophet_of_Doom_Appendix_Quotes.pdf
On coexistence.

“In the Muslim community, the holy war is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the [Muslim] mission and [the obligation to] convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force. Therefore, caliphate and royal authority are united [in Islam], so that the person in charge can devote the available strength to both of them [i.e. religion and politics] at the same time. The other religious groups did not have a universal mission, and the holy war was not a religious duty for them, save only for purposes of defense... Islam is under obligation to gain power over other nations.” (Muqaddimah)

Table of Contents IslamicSupremacism.org - A Short Course Previous Page Next Page 28 More Classic Jurist Opinions on Islamic Supremacism & Jihad Chronologically, 635 - 1800 AD 3 are Sufi Notice these are not cherry picked examples of Extremists™, rather they are revered in the Islamic world as among the most authoritative “classic jurists” in history, as the last page was. Scan their qualifications now, look at what they said later - you will see they are all open ended instructions to Muslims concerning relations with all non-Muslims, affirming Koran 9:29 is good for all times and places, and not just historical descriptions of events. Hitler, “Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation.” Mein Kampf. If you are scanning this page, bold numbers are most noteworthy. 6) Abu Bakr (d. 635) - 1st successor to Muhammad, 1st of the “4 rightly guided caliphs”. He is quoted in Bukhari 2:23:483. He led the apostate wars, and is the namesake of the first Islamic State caliph in 2014 Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi. 7) Umar ibn al-Khattab (~580 - 644) - 2nd successor to Muhammad, 2nd of the “4 rightly guided caliphs.” Umar is also quoted in Bukhari. The famous Pact of Umar was a peace treaty between the Caliph Umar and the Christians of Syria., who promised to abide by a detailed list of humiliating concessions as 2nd class citizens, that became a model for other places under Islamic law. The origin of this document is uncertain, but the “classic jurists” have taken it very seriously and quote from it, as you already saw with Ghazali on the last page. Umar on IS&J. 8) `Abdullah ibn `Abbas (~618 - 687) - said to be a paternal cousin of Muhammad. He is quoted in Bukhari and other hadith. During his life he was called The Great Scholar of the Ummah. “... famous for his deep insight, profound learning, keen memory, high intelligence, and perceptiveness.” He narrated about 1600 traditions (hadith), and wrote a complete commentary on the Koran Tafsir Ibn Abbas. ibn Abbas on IS&J. 9) Abu Yusuf (Yaqub ibn Ibrahim al-Ansari) (731 - 798) - Famous Hanafi jurist, one of the most important disciples of Abu Hanifa (founder of the Hanafi school). Judge in Baghdad, and later Chief Justice (qadi al-qudat) under Abbasid caliph Harun al-Rashid. Abu Yusuf on IS&J. 10) Muhammad al-Shaybani (754 - 811) - Famous Hanafi jurist, another of the most important disciples of Abu Hanifa. Author of several authoritative works, particularly an important work on jihad, The Islamic Law of Nations. al-Shaybani on IS&J. 11) Imam Al-Shafi’i (767 - 820) - founder of the Shafi’i school, jurist, one of the “4 great imams”. Disciple of al-Shaybani and Imam Malik (founder of the Maliki school): Al-Shafi'i on IS&J. 12) Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari (~838 - 923) - Very famous Persian Islamic scholar, historian, and prolific writer, “one of the major mujtahid Imams”, memorized Koran at 7. Most famous for his massive commentary on the Qur'an Tafsir al-Tabari, an equally large History of Prophets and Kings, and an encyclopedia of jurisprudence entitled al-Basit. al-Tabari on (9:29). 13) Ibn Abi Zayd al-Qayrawani (922 - 996) - Maliki jurist, “He was the Imam of the Malikis in his time, and their model.” Wrote the very well known Treatise on Maliki Fiqh available free on line today, La Risala. al-Qayrawani on IS&J 14) Abu Al-Hasan Al-Mawardi (972-1058) - Shafi'i jurist, Chief Justice in Baghdad, sociologist, considered as one of the most famous thinkers in political science in the middle ages before ibn Khaldun. Wrote several important books on Islamic governance, some translated into various languages. Al-Mawardi on IS&J. 15) Abu Ishaq Elbiri (11th century) - well-known Muslim jurist and poet of his time. In 1066, shortly before an estimated 4,000 Jews were killed in Muslim ruled Spain during the Golden Age™, he wrote: “Do not consider that killing them is treachery. Nay, it would be treachery to leave them scoffing. Bostom: Jihad and Islamic Antisemitism More Abu Ishaq on IS&J. 16) Ibn Abdun (d. 1134) - Maliki jurist in Andalusia, gave these legal opinions regarding Jews and Christians in Seville around 1100AD, during the Golden Age in Spain. “He emphasized that the qadi, a jurist should be a man of prudence, compassion, impartiality, and learning...” Ibn Abdun. on IS. 17) al-Zamakshari (~1075 - 1144) - “Persian renown for his great scholarship of the Qur'an and his magnificent mastery of the Arabic language. Scholars of all ranks and schools of thought have tremendous regard for him... His monumental work al-Kashaf `an Haqa'iq al-Tanzil wa `Uyun al-Aqawil fi Wujuh al-Ta'wil, is celebrated for its genius and linguistic depth.” From his Tafsir (Koran commentary), about al-Zamakshari on IS&J. 18) Shaikh Burhanuddin Ali of Marghinan (1135 - 1196) - Hanafi jurist, from his famous manual of Sunni law the Hidaya, which is considered an authoritative guide in Central Asia, Afghanistan, and India. This is not a historical account, it is a timeless religious ruling by an influential Hanafi jurist. “...[jihad] is established as a divine ordinance, by the word of God, who said in the Quran, ‘Slay the infidels,‘ and also by saying of the Prophet, ‘War is permanently established until the Day of Judgment.’ When the Muslims enter the enemy’s country and besiege the cities or strongholds of the infidels, it is necessary to invite them to embrace the faith, because Ibn ‘Abbas relates of the Prophet that he never destroyed any without previously inviting them to embrace the faith... If the infidels, upon receiving the call, neither consent to it nor agree to pay capitation tax, it is then incumbent on the Muslims to call upon God for assistance, and to make war upon them...; the Prophet, moreover, commands us so to do.” More Hidaya on Jihad 19) Ibn Qudamah al-Maqdisi (1147-1223) - Hanbali jurist, noted Islamic scholar and author of many treatises of Hanbali jurisprudence and doctrine, including al-Mughni (the most widely known textbook of Hanbali fiqh). Ibn Kathir (listed below) said of him, "proficient, there was not found in his era nor before it by a long span of time, anyone possessing more fiqh – understanding of the religion – than him." al-Maqdisi on IS&J. 20) Yahya ibn Sharaf al-Nawawi (~1234-1278) - Shafi'i jurist, Syrian, author, wrote “numerous works of great importance” including Riyad-us Saliheen, and Minhaj al-Talibin, both classical shafi'i manuals of Islamic Law. al-Nawawi on IS&J. 21) 'Abdallah ibn 'Umar al-Baydawi (~1286-1316) - Shafi’i jurist, chief judge of Shiraz, Persian scholar, writer. In his important Qur’anic exegesis The Secrets of Revelation and The Secrets of Interpretation, he gives this ruling on Qur’an 5:82 & 2:61, about the Jews “humiliation and wretchedness”. 22) Abu Mansur Hasan bin Yusuf Al-Hilli (1250-1326) - Shi’ite jurist, “one of the greatest Muslim jurist and scholars of his time”, prolific writer. Al-Hilli on IS&J. 23) Ibn al-Qayyim al-Jawziyya (1292-1350) - Hanbali jurist, important disciple of Ibn Tamiyyah, eventually becoming his successor Imam. Qur'anic commentator, teacher, most notably of Ibn Kathir. He is often quoted by other Muslims in their rulings on jihad. For example here. 24) Ziauddin Barani (1285-1357) - Indian jurist, historian, political thinker, writer, companion of Sultan Muhammad b. Tughluq. He pleads for an all out struggle against Hinduism, and discusses whether jizya should be accepted from them, as it is from the People of the Book - Jews and Christians. Barani on IS&J. 25) Ahmad Ibn Naqib al-Misri (1302-1368AD) - compiled Reliance of the Traveller. On IS&J: “Jihad means to war against non-Muslims, and is etymologically derived from the word mujahada signifying warfare to establish the religion. And it is the lesser jihad. As for the greater jihad, it is spiritual warfare against the lower self...” (Reliance o9.0) That’s all it says about the “greater jihad”, then spends 11 pages explaining the “lesser jihad” like this:
 “The caliph makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians . . . until they become Muslim or pay the non-Muslim poll tax.” (o9.8) there’s a comment added from a Jordanian jurist: the caliph wages this war only “provided that he has first invited [Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians] to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya) . . . while remaining in their ancestral religions... Though, if there is no caliph, no permission is required [to fight jihad].” (o9.6) Certified by al-Azhar University in 1991  "conforms to the practice and faith of the orthodox Sunni community." Reliance of the Traveller quotes K-47:35 then says Muslims shouldn’t make truces in war when they are uppermost, only when weak, and never for more than 10 years (o9.16). Reliance of the Traveller on Christians, inspired by the 7th century Pact of Umar above: "... forbidden to ring church bells or display crosses, recite the Torah or Evangel aloud, or make public display of their funerals and feast days, and are forbidden to build new churches." (Reliance o.11.5,6,7) 26) Ibn Kathir (1323-1396) - Shafi’i jurist, Syrian disciple of Ibn Taymiyya, a ‘qadi’, hafiz (memorized the Koran), master scholar of history and the Qur’an. His 5,000 page commentary Tafsir Ibn Kathir is “famous all over the Muslim world and among Muslims in the Western world, and is one of the most widely used explanations of the Qu’ran today”. In it he gives this commentary on the Pact of Umar “treaty of peace”: “Paying Jizya Is a Sign of Kufr and Disgrace” “Allah said “until they pay the Jizya,” if they do not choose to embrace Islam, “with willing submission” in defeat and subservience, “and feel themselves subdued,” disgraced, humiliated and belittled. Therefore, Muslims are not allowed to honor the people of Dhimma or elevate them above Muslims, for they are miserable, disgraced, and humiliated. Muslim recorded from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet said, “Do not initiate the Salam to the Jews and the Christians, and if you meet them in a road, force them to its narrowest alley.” (Muslim B.26, #5389) This is why the leader of the faithful ‘Umar... demanded his well known conditions to be met by the Christians, these conditions that ensured their continued humiliation, degradation, and disgrace. The scholars of Hadith narrated from Abdur-Rahman... the terms of the treaty of peace he conducted with the Christians: This is a document to... ‘Umar the leader of the faithful, for the Christians of such and such a city. When you [Muslims] came to us we requested safety for ourselves, children, property and followers of our religion. We made a condition on ourselves that we will neither erect in our areas a monastery, church, or a sanctuary for a monk, nor restore any place of worship that needs restoration... We will respect Muslims, move from places we sit in if they choose to sit in them...” And so on, he finishes the rest of the Pact of Umar. (Tafsir Ibn Kathir (Riyadh, 2000), vol 4, pp. 404-407) More Ibn Kathir on IS&J. 27) Ibn Khaldun (1332-1406) - Maliki jurist, “The most important figure in the field of History and Sociology in Muslim History. He is one of those shining stars that contributed so richly to the understanding of Civilization." Professor John Esposito, Ph.D., taught a class Introduction to Islamic Civilization where a month was spent on part IV Ibn Khaldun on Islamic Civilization. From Khaldun’s famous Muqaddimah: An Introduction to History: “We do not think that we should blacken the pages of this book with discussion of their [Christian] dogmas of unbelief. In general, they are well known. All of them are unbelief. This is clearly stated in the noble Koran. To discuss or argue those things with them is not up to us. It is for them to choose between conversion to Islam, payment of the poll tax, or death.” (Vol 1, p. 473) Ibn Khaldun  Celebrated Supremacist “In the Muslim community, the holy war is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the [Muslim] mission and [the obligation to] convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force. Therefore, caliphate and royal authority are united [in Islam], so that the person in charge can devote the available strength to both of them [i.e. religion and politics] at the same time. The other religious groups did not have a universal mission, and the holy war was not a religious duty for them, save only for purposes of defense... Islam is under obligation to gain power over other nations.” (Muqaddimah) 28) Shaykh Muhammad b. Abd al-Karim al-Maghili (d.~1504) - From present day Algeria. Led a successful campaign to expel the city's Jews: “On the day of payment [the dhimmis] shall be assembled in a public place like the suq. They should be standing there waiting in the lowest and dirtiest place. The acting officials representing the Law shall ... adopt a threatening attitude so that it seems to them, as well as to the others, that our object is to degrade them by pretending to take their possessions. They will realize that we are doing them a favor (again) in accepting from them the jizya and letting them go free. Then they shall be dragged one by one ... for the exacting of payment. When paying, the dhimmi will receive a blow and will be thrust aside so that he will think that he has escaped the sword through this (insult). This is the way that the friends of the Lord, of the first and last generations, will act toward their infidel enemies, for might belongs to Allah, to His Apostle, and to the Believers.” (From Ahkam ahl al-Dhimma Faith Freedom International Quotes from Islamic jurists) 29) Imam Al-Suyuti (1445-1505) - Sufi, Hanafi jurist, famous Egyptian writer, multidisciplinary scholar. Memorized the Koran at 8. The mujtahid imam and foremost hadith master, historian, biographer, he authored works in virtually every Islamic science. Recognized as the most prolific author in the realm of Islamic literature, writing nearly 600 books and treatises, including co-compiling the most widespread condensed commentary of Qur'an in our time, Tafsir al-Jalalayn. Note his Sufi mysticism did not conflict with his views here on (9:29). 30) Fadl-Ullah bin Ruzbihan Isfahani (1456 - 1521) - Shafi’i jurist, said this in his Muslim Conduct of State: Suluk ul-Muluk, summarizing Shafi'i and Hanafi law. 31) Shaikh Abdul Quddus Gangoh (~1456~1537) - Sufi Indian poet, among the most prominent Sufi Shaykhs of the Chishti Silsila branch. Scholar K.S. Lal says: “Gangoh need be cited because he belonged to the Chishtia Silsila considered to be the most tolerant of all Sufi groups. He wrote letters to the Sultan Sikandar Lodi, Babur, and Humayun to re—invigorate the Sharia and reduce the Hindus to payers of land tax and jizya. To Babur he wrote: “No non—Muslim should be given any office or employment in the Diwan of Islam... Furthermore, in conformity with the principles of the Shariat they should be subjected to all types of indignities and humiliations. They should be made to pay the jizya...They should be disallowed from donning the dress of the Muslims... They should not be allowed to consider themselves the equal to the Muslims.” (K.S. Lal, The Legacy of Muslim Rule in India, New Delhi, Aditya Prakashan, 1992, p. 237, Quotes from Islamic jurists) 32) Muhammad Taqi al-Majlisi (~1616–1698) - authoritative Shi’ite jurist and prolific hadith collector, educated in Islamic philosophy and mysticism. Author of over 100 books in Arabic and Persian, including one of the most important hadith collections to Shia, Bihar al-Anwar. Had a very close relationship with at least 2 of the Safavid monarchs, Shah Sulayman (d.1694), who in 1686 appointed him the “Sheik of Islam” in Isfahan, and Shah Sultan Husayn (d.1713) who in 1694 changed his title to Mullabashi, he was the highest religious and executive authority during those times. During his last four years under Husayn he was the de facto ruler of Iran.“ (Andrew Bostom Legacy of Jihad) “Some say that they [the dhimmis] should not be informed of the amount of the jizya so that they should live continuously, in the course of the year, in a state of anxiety and agitation. [...] ... It is also incumbent upon Muslims that they should not accept from them victuals with which they had come into contact, such as distillates <and oils>, which cannot be purified. If something can be purified, such as clothes, if they are dry, they can be accepted, they are clean. But if they [the dhimmis] had come into contact with those cloths in moisture they should be rinsed with water after being obtained… It would also be better if the ruler of the Muslims would establish that all infidels could not move out of their homes on days when it rains or snows because they would make Muslims impure... Muslims should also be urged to show disrespect toward them [the dhimmis].” More al-Maqdisi on IS. (Excerpted from "Risala-ya Sawa'iq al-Yahud [The Treatise Lightning Bolts against the Jews]." English translation by V.B. Moreen in Die Welt des Islams 32 (1992): 187-193.) (Andrew Bostom Legacy of Jihad) 33) Shah Aladihlawi Wali-Allah (1703–1762) - Sufi, Hanafi jurist, Islamic scholar from Delhi. Memorized Koran at 7. “One of the greatest religious thinkers produced by Muslim India... endowed with saintly qualities.” Authored 23 books in Arabic, and 28 in Persian. In spite of his Sufi mysticism, he said: “It has become clear to my mind that the kingdom of heaven has predestined that kafirs should be reduced to a state of humiliation and treated with utter contempt.” More Wali-Allah on IS&J. Obama in his 2009 Cairo speech at al-Azhar said: “And when the first Muslim-American was recently elected to Congress, he took the oath to defend our Constitution using the same Holy Koran that one of our Founding Fathers – Thomas Jefferson – kept in his personal library.” That’s deceptive: Sidi Haji Abdrahaman (in 1786) - Maybe not a religious authority so I am not giving him a number, but he was Tripoli’s Ambassador to London giving his opinion on IS&J. Jefferson’s interest in the Koran had to do with getting to know the Muslim (Barbary) pirates before they went to war. Christopher Hitchens explains: “...in 1786, the new United States found that it was having to deal ... with ... the Muslim religion. The Barbary states of North Africa ... were using the ports of today's Algeria, Libya, and Tunisia to wage a war of piracy and enslavement against all shipping that passed through the Strait of Gibraltar. Thousands of vessels were taken, and more than a million Europeans and Americans sold into slavery. The fledgling United States of America was in an especially difficult position, having forfeited the protection of the British Royal Navy. Under this pressure, Congress gave assent to the Treaty of Tripoli... which stated roundly that "the government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion, as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen." ... Jefferson and John Adams ... went to call on Tripoli's envoy to London, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman. They asked him by what right he extorted money and took slaves in this way. As Jefferson later reported to Congress: “The ambassador answered us that [the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.” C. Hitchens - Jefferson's Koran Medieval historian Raymond Ibrahim, from The Historical Reality of the Muslim Conquests: “Because it is now almost axiomatic for American school textbooks to whitewash all things Islamic (see here for example), it may be useful to examine one of those aspects that are regularly distorted: the Muslim conquests. Few events of history are so well documented and attested to as are these conquests, which commenced soon after the death of the Muslim prophet Muhammad (632) and tapered off circa 750. Large swathes of the Old World—from the India in the east, to Spain in the west—were conquered and consolidated by the sword of Islam during this time. By the standards of history, the reality of these conquests is unassailable, for history proper concerns itself with primary sources; and the Islamic conquests are thoroughly documented. More importantly, the overwhelming majority of primary source materials we rely on do not come from non-Muslims, who might be accused of bias. Rather, the foremost historians bequeathing to posterity thousands of pages of source materials documenting the Islamic conquests were not only Muslims themselves; they were—and still are—regarded by today’s Muslims as pious and trustworthy scholars (generically, the ulema).“ Forward to Consequences of Rejecting Reason

Last few hundreds of years...who went around killing millions upon millions and force Christianity on indigenous people, make them slaves and steal their resources?
Who started WW1 and WW2? Vietnam? Korean war? Iraq invasion? Regime changes...sells arms and bombs to hostile regimes and terrorist groups? MUslims?

Those wars had 0 to do with Christianity. Check out Christian doctrine. You are woefully under and misinformed.

Here is some Islamic science.
http://www.prophetofdoom.net/pdf/Prophet_of_Doom_Appendix_Quotes.pdf
On coexistence.

“In the Muslim community, the holy war is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the [Muslim] mission and [the obligation to] convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force. Therefore, caliphate and royal authority are united [in Islam], so that the person in charge can devote the available strength to both of them [i.e. religion and politics] at the same time. The other religious groups did not have a universal mission, and the holy war was not a religious duty for them, save only for purposes of defense... Islam is under obligation to gain power over other nations.” (Muqaddimah)

Table of Contents IslamicSupremacism.org - A Short Course Previous Page Next Page 28 More Classic Jurist Opinions on Islamic Supremacism & Jihad Chronologically, 635 - 1800 AD 3 are Sufi Notice these are not cherry picked examples of Extremists™, rather they are revered in the Islamic world as among the most authoritative “classic jurists” in history, as the last page was. Scan their qualifications now, look at what they said later - you will see they are all open ended instructions to Muslims concerning relations with all non-Muslims, affirming Koran 9:29 is good for all times and places, and not just historical descriptions of events. Hitler, “Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation.” Mein Kampf. If you are scanning this page, bold numbers are most noteworthy. 6) Abu Bakr (d. 635) - 1st successor to Muhammad, 1st of the “4 rightly guided caliphs”. He is quoted in Bukhari 2:23:483. He led the apostate wars, and is the namesake of the first Islamic State caliph in 2014 Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi. 7) Umar ibn al-Khattab (~580 - 644) - 2nd successor to Muhammad, 2nd of the “4 rightly guided caliphs.” Umar is also quoted in Bukhari. The famous Pact of Umar was a peace treaty between the Caliph Umar and the Christians of Syria., who promised to abide by a detailed list of humiliating concessions as 2nd class citizens, that became a model for other places under Islamic law. The origin of this document is uncertain, but the “classic jurists” have taken it very seriously and quote from it, as you already saw with Ghazali on the last page. Umar on IS&J. 8) `Abdullah ibn `Abbas (~618 - 687) - said to be a paternal cousin of Muhammad. He is quoted in Bukhari and other hadith. During his life he was called The Great Scholar of the Ummah. “... famous for his deep insight, profound learning, keen memory, high intelligence, and perceptiveness.” He narrated about 1600 traditions (hadith), and wrote a complete commentary on the Koran Tafsir Ibn Abbas. ibn Abbas on IS&J. 9) Abu Yusuf (Yaqub ibn Ibrahim al-Ansari) (731 - 798) - Famous Hanafi jurist, one of the most important disciples of Abu Hanifa (founder of the Hanafi school). Judge in Baghdad, and later Chief Justice (qadi al-qudat) under Abbasid caliph Harun al-Rashid. Abu Yusuf on IS&J. 10) Muhammad al-Shaybani (754 - 811) - Famous Hanafi jurist, another of the most important disciples of Abu Hanifa. Author of several authoritative works, particularly an important work on jihad, The Islamic Law of Nations. al-Shaybani on IS&J. 11) Imam Al-Shafi’i (767 - 820) - founder of the Shafi’i school, jurist, one of the “4 great imams”. Disciple of al-Shaybani and Imam Malik (founder of the Maliki school): Al-Shafi'i on IS&J. 12) Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari (~838 - 923) - Very famous Persian Islamic scholar, historian, and prolific writer, “one of the major mujtahid Imams”, memorized Koran at 7. Most famous for his massive commentary on the Qur'an Tafsir al-Tabari, an equally large History of Prophets and Kings, and an encyclopedia of jurisprudence entitled al-Basit. al-Tabari on (9:29). 13) Ibn Abi Zayd al-Qayrawani (922 - 996) - Maliki jurist, “He was the Imam of the Malikis in his time, and their model.” Wrote the very well known Treatise on Maliki Fiqh available free on line today, La Risala. al-Qayrawani on IS&J 14) Abu Al-Hasan Al-Mawardi (972-1058) - Shafi'i jurist, Chief Justice in Baghdad, sociologist, considered as one of the most famous thinkers in political science in the middle ages before ibn Khaldun. Wrote several important books on Islamic governance, some translated into various languages. Al-Mawardi on IS&J. 15) Abu Ishaq Elbiri (11th century) - well-known Muslim jurist and poet of his time. In 1066, shortly before an estimated 4,000 Jews were killed in Muslim ruled Spain during the Golden Age™, he wrote: “Do not consider that killing them is treachery. Nay, it would be treachery to leave them scoffing. Bostom: Jihad and Islamic Antisemitism More Abu Ishaq on IS&J. 16) Ibn Abdun (d. 1134) - Maliki jurist in Andalusia, gave these legal opinions regarding Jews and Christians in Seville around 1100AD, during the Golden Age in Spain. “He emphasized that the qadi, a jurist should be a man of prudence, compassion, impartiality, and learning...” Ibn Abdun. on IS. 17) al-Zamakshari (~1075 - 1144) - “Persian renown for his great scholarship of the Qur'an and his magnificent mastery of the Arabic language. Scholars of all ranks and schools of thought have tremendous regard for him... His monumental work al-Kashaf `an Haqa'iq al-Tanzil wa `Uyun al-Aqawil fi Wujuh al-Ta'wil, is celebrated for its genius and linguistic depth.” From his Tafsir (Koran commentary), about al-Zamakshari on IS&J. 18) Shaikh Burhanuddin Ali of Marghinan (1135 - 1196) - Hanafi jurist, from his famous manual of Sunni law the Hidaya, which is considered an authoritative guide in Central Asia, Afghanistan, and India. This is not a historical account, it is a timeless religious ruling by an influential Hanafi jurist. “...[jihad] is established as a divine ordinance, by the word of God, who said in the Quran, ‘Slay the infidels,‘ and also by saying of the Prophet, ‘War is permanently established until the Day of Judgment.’ When the Muslims enter the enemy’s country and besiege the cities or strongholds of the infidels, it is necessary to invite them to embrace the faith, because Ibn ‘Abbas relates of the Prophet that he never destroyed any without previously inviting them to embrace the faith... If the infidels, upon receiving the call, neither consent to it nor agree to pay capitation tax, it is then incumbent on the Muslims to call upon God for assistance, and to make war upon them...; the Prophet, moreover, commands us so to do.” More Hidaya on Jihad 19) Ibn Qudamah al-Maqdisi (1147-1223) - Hanbali jurist, noted Islamic scholar and author of many treatises of Hanbali jurisprudence and doctrine, including al-Mughni (the most widely known textbook of Hanbali fiqh). Ibn Kathir (listed below) said of him, "proficient, there was not found in his era nor before it by a long span of time, anyone possessing more fiqh – understanding of the religion – than him." al-Maqdisi on IS&J. 20) Yahya ibn Sharaf al-Nawawi (~1234-1278) - Shafi'i jurist, Syrian, author, wrote “numerous works of great importance” including Riyad-us Saliheen, and Minhaj al-Talibin, both classical shafi'i manuals of Islamic Law. al-Nawawi on IS&J. 21) 'Abdallah ibn 'Umar al-Baydawi (~1286-1316) - Shafi’i jurist, chief judge of Shiraz, Persian scholar, writer. In his important Qur’anic exegesis The Secrets of Revelation and The Secrets of Interpretation, he gives this ruling on Qur’an 5:82 & 2:61, about the Jews “humiliation and wretchedness”. 22) Abu Mansur Hasan bin Yusuf Al-Hilli (1250-1326) - Shi’ite jurist, “one of the greatest Muslim jurist and scholars of his time”, prolific writer. Al-Hilli on IS&J. 23) Ibn al-Qayyim al-Jawziyya (1292-1350) - Hanbali jurist, important disciple of Ibn Tamiyyah, eventually becoming his successor Imam. Qur'anic commentator, teacher, most notably of Ibn Kathir. He is often quoted by other Muslims in their rulings on jihad. For example here. 24) Ziauddin Barani (1285-1357) - Indian jurist, historian, political thinker, writer, companion of Sultan Muhammad b. Tughluq. He pleads for an all out struggle against Hinduism, and discusses whether jizya should be accepted from them, as it is from the People of the Book - Jews and Christians. Barani on IS&J. 25) Ahmad Ibn Naqib al-Misri (1302-1368AD) - compiled Reliance of the Traveller. On IS&J: “Jihad means to war against non-Muslims, and is etymologically derived from the word mujahada signifying warfare to establish the religion. And it is the lesser jihad. As for the greater jihad, it is spiritual warfare against the lower self...” (Reliance o9.0) That’s all it says about the “greater jihad”, then spends 11 pages explaining the “lesser jihad” like this:
 “The caliph makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians . . . until they become Muslim or pay the non-Muslim poll tax.” (o9.8) there’s a comment added from a Jordanian jurist: the caliph wages this war only “provided that he has first invited [Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians] to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya) . . . while remaining in their ancestral religions... Though, if there is no caliph, no permission is required [to fight jihad].” (o9.6) Certified by al-Azhar University in 1991  "conforms to the practice and faith of the orthodox Sunni community." Reliance of the Traveller quotes K-47:35 then says Muslims shouldn’t make truces in war when they are uppermost, only when weak, and never for more than 10 years (o9.16). Reliance of the Traveller on Christians, inspired by the 7th century Pact of Umar above: "... forbidden to ring church bells or display crosses, recite the Torah or Evangel aloud, or make public display of their funerals and feast days, and are forbidden to build new churches." (Reliance o.11.5,6,7) 26) Ibn Kathir (1323-1396) - Shafi’i jurist, Syrian disciple of Ibn Taymiyya, a ‘qadi’, hafiz (memorized the Koran), master scholar of history and the Qur’an. His 5,000 page commentary Tafsir Ibn Kathir is “famous all over the Muslim world and among Muslims in the Western world, and is one of the most widely used explanations of the Qu’ran today”. In it he gives this commentary on the Pact of Umar “treaty of peace”: “Paying Jizya Is a Sign of Kufr and Disgrace” “Allah said “until they pay the Jizya,” if they do not choose to embrace Islam, “with willing submission” in defeat and subservience, “and feel themselves subdued,” disgraced, humiliated and belittled. Therefore, Muslims are not allowed to honor the people of Dhimma or elevate them above Muslims, for they are miserable, disgraced, and humiliated. Muslim recorded from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet said, “Do not initiate the Salam to the Jews and the Christians, and if you meet them in a road, force them to its narrowest alley.” (Muslim B.26, #5389) This is why the leader of the faithful ‘Umar... demanded his well known conditions to be met by the Christians, these conditions that ensured their continued humiliation, degradation, and disgrace. The scholars of Hadith narrated from Abdur-Rahman... the terms of the treaty of peace he conducted with the Christians: This is a document to... ‘Umar the leader of the faithful, for the Christians of such and such a city. When you [Muslims] came to us we requested safety for ourselves, children, property and followers of our religion. We made a condition on ourselves that we will neither erect in our areas a monastery, church, or a sanctuary for a monk, nor restore any place of worship that needs restoration... We will respect Muslims, move from places we sit in if they choose to sit in them...” And so on, he finishes the rest of the Pact of Umar. (Tafsir Ibn Kathir (Riyadh, 2000), vol 4, pp. 404-407) More Ibn Kathir on IS&J. 27) Ibn Khaldun (1332-1406) - Maliki jurist, “The most important figure in the field of History and Sociology in Muslim History. He is one of those shining stars that contributed so richly to the understanding of Civilization." Professor John Esposito, Ph.D., taught a class Introduction to Islamic Civilization where a month was spent on part IV Ibn Khaldun on Islamic Civilization. From Khaldun’s famous Muqaddimah: An Introduction to History: “We do not think that we should blacken the pages of this book with discussion of their [Christian] dogmas of unbelief. In general, they are well known. All of them are unbelief. This is clearly stated in the noble Koran. To discuss or argue those things with them is not up to us. It is for them to choose between conversion to Islam, payment of the poll tax, or death.” (Vol 1, p. 473) Ibn Khaldun  Celebrated Supremacist “In the Muslim community, the holy war is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the [Muslim] mission and [the obligation to] convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force. Therefore, caliphate and royal authority are united [in Islam], so that the person in charge can devote the available strength to both of them [i.e. religion and politics] at the same time. The other religious groups did not have a universal mission, and the holy war was not a religious duty for them, save only for purposes of defense... Islam is under obligation to gain power over other nations.” (Muqaddimah) 28) Shaykh Muhammad b. Abd al-Karim al-Maghili (d.~1504) - From present day Algeria. Led a successful campaign to expel the city's Jews: “On the day of payment [the dhimmis] shall be assembled in a public place like the suq. They should be standing there waiting in the lowest and dirtiest place. The acting officials representing the Law shall ... adopt a threatening attitude so that it seems to them, as well as to the others, that our object is to degrade them by pretending to take their possessions. They will realize that we are doing them a favor (again) in accepting from them the jizya and letting them go free. Then they shall be dragged one by one ... for the exacting of payment. When paying, the dhimmi will receive a blow and will be thrust aside so that he will think that he has escaped the sword through this (insult). This is the way that the friends of the Lord, of the first and last generations, will act toward their infidel enemies, for might belongs to Allah, to His Apostle, and to the Believers.” (From Ahkam ahl al-Dhimma Faith Freedom International Quotes from Islamic jurists) 29) Imam Al-Suyuti (1445-1505) - Sufi, Hanafi jurist, famous Egyptian writer, multidisciplinary scholar. Memorized the Koran at 8. The mujtahid imam and foremost hadith master, historian, biographer, he authored works in virtually every Islamic science. Recognized as the most prolific author in the realm of Islamic literature, writing nearly 600 books and treatises, including co-compiling the most widespread condensed commentary of Qur'an in our time, Tafsir al-Jalalayn. Note his Sufi mysticism did not conflict with his views here on (9:29). 30) Fadl-Ullah bin Ruzbihan Isfahani (1456 - 1521) - Shafi’i jurist, said this in his Muslim Conduct of State: Suluk ul-Muluk, summarizing Shafi'i and Hanafi law. 31) Shaikh Abdul Quddus Gangoh (~1456~1537) - Sufi Indian poet, among the most prominent Sufi Shaykhs of the Chishti Silsila branch. Scholar K.S. Lal says: “Gangoh need be cited because he belonged to the Chishtia Silsila considered to be the most tolerant of all Sufi groups. He wrote letters to the Sultan Sikandar Lodi, Babur, and Humayun to re—invigorate the Sharia and reduce the Hindus to payers of land tax and jizya. To Babur he wrote: “No non—Muslim should be given any office or employment in the Diwan of Islam... Furthermore, in conformity with the principles of the Shariat they should be subjected to all types of indignities and humiliations. They should be made to pay the jizya...They should be disallowed from donning the dress of the Muslims... They should not be allowed to consider themselves the equal to the Muslims.” (K.S. Lal, The Legacy of Muslim Rule in India, New Delhi, Aditya Prakashan, 1992, p. 237, Quotes from Islamic jurists) 32) Muhammad Taqi al-Majlisi (~1616–1698) - authoritative Shi’ite jurist and prolific hadith collector, educated in Islamic philosophy and mysticism. Author of over 100 books in Arabic and Persian, including one of the most important hadith collections to Shia, Bihar al-Anwar. Had a very close relationship with at least 2 of the Safavid monarchs, Shah Sulayman (d.1694), who in 1686 appointed him the “Sheik of Islam” in Isfahan, and Shah Sultan Husayn (d.1713) who in 1694 changed his title to Mullabashi, he was the highest religious and executive authority during those times. During his last four years under Husayn he was the de facto ruler of Iran.“ (Andrew Bostom Legacy of Jihad) “Some say that they [the dhimmis] should not be informed of the amount of the jizya so that they should live continuously, in the course of the year, in a state of anxiety and agitation. [...] ... It is also incumbent upon Muslims that they should not accept from them victuals with which they had come into contact, such as distillates <and oils>, which cannot be purified. If something can be purified, such as clothes, if they are dry, they can be accepted, they are clean. But if they [the dhimmis] had come into contact with those cloths in moisture they should be rinsed with water after being obtained… It would also be better if the ruler of the Muslims would establish that all infidels could not move out of their homes on days when it rains or snows because they would make Muslims impure... Muslims should also be urged to show disrespect toward them [the dhimmis].” More al-Maqdisi on IS. (Excerpted from "Risala-ya Sawa'iq al-Yahud [The Treatise Lightning Bolts against the Jews]." English translation by V.B. Moreen in Die Welt des Islams 32 (1992): 187-193.) (Andrew Bostom Legacy of Jihad) 33) Shah Aladihlawi Wali-Allah (1703–1762) - Sufi, Hanafi jurist, Islamic scholar from Delhi. Memorized Koran at 7. “One of the greatest religious thinkers produced by Muslim India... endowed with saintly qualities.” Authored 23 books in Arabic, and 28 in Persian. In spite of his Sufi mysticism, he said: “It has become clear to my mind that the kingdom of heaven has predestined that kafirs should be reduced to a state of humiliation and treated with utter contempt.” More Wali-Allah on IS&J. Obama in his 2009 Cairo speech at al-Azhar said: “And when the first Muslim-American was recently elected to Congress, he took the oath to defend our Constitution using the same Holy Koran that one of our Founding Fathers – Thomas Jefferson – kept in his personal library.” That’s deceptive: Sidi Haji Abdrahaman (in 1786) - Maybe not a religious authority so I am not giving him a number, but he was Tripoli’s Ambassador to London giving his opinion on IS&J. Jefferson’s interest in the Koran had to do with getting to know the Muslim (Barbary) pirates before they went to war. Christopher Hitchens explains: “...in 1786, the new United States found that it was having to deal ... with ... the Muslim religion. The Barbary states of North Africa ... were using the ports of today's Algeria, Libya, and Tunisia to wage a war of piracy and enslavement against all shipping that passed through the Strait of Gibraltar. Thousands of vessels were taken, and more than a million Europeans and Americans sold into slavery. The fledgling United States of America was in an especially difficult position, having forfeited the protection of the British Royal Navy. Under this pressure, Congress gave assent to the Treaty of Tripoli... which stated roundly that "the government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion, as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen." ... Jefferson and John Adams ... went to call on Tripoli's envoy to London, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman. They asked him by what right he extorted money and took slaves in this way. As Jefferson later reported to Congress: “The ambassador answered us that [the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.” C. Hitchens - Jefferson's Koran Medieval historian Raymond Ibrahim, from The Historical Reality of the Muslim Conquests: “Because it is now almost axiomatic for American school textbooks to whitewash all things Islamic (see here for example), it may be useful to examine one of those aspects that are regularly distorted: the Muslim conquests. Few events of history are so well documented and attested to as are these conquests, which commenced soon after the death of the Muslim prophet Muhammad (632) and tapered off circa 750. Large swathes of the Old World—from the India in the east, to Spain in the west—were conquered and consolidated by the sword of Islam during this time. By the standards of history, the reality of these conquests is unassailable, for history proper concerns itself with primary sources; and the Islamic conquests are thoroughly documented. More importantly, the overwhelming majority of primary source materials we rely on do not come from non-Muslims, who might be accused of bias. Rather, the foremost historians bequeathing to posterity thousands of pages of source materials documenting the Islamic conquests were not only Muslims themselves; they were—and still are—regarded by today’s Muslims as pious and trustworthy scholars (generically, the ulema).“ Forward to Consequences of Rejecting Reason

Last few hundreds of years...who went around killing millions upon millions and force Christianity on indigenous people, make them slaves and steal their resources?
Who started WW1 and WW2? Vietnam? Korean war? Iraq invasion? Regime changes...sells arms and bombs to hostile regimes and terrorist groups? MUslims?

Those wars had 0 to do with Christianity. Check out Christian doctrine. You are woefully under and misinformed.

Sir I wont waste my time answering you anymore if you gonna deny historical facts....for you to say Christianity or Christians had nothing to do with any of the atrocities that too place in the last 300 to 400 years, is almost criminal.

And by the way i have a huge respect for christianity as a Muslim otherwise i can't be one. but no the christianity that was tailored to fit the imperialistic agenda of the Church and the ruling families in Europe and elsewhere.

Issa-----do you have "respect" for the fact that islam was TAILORED to justify the genocide of hundreds of
millions and TO DATE has never repudiated THE VILE STINK of dhimmia?-----or the various other perverse and disgusting provisions of vile SHARIAH?. In fact------Islamic scholars do not even repudiate
the institution of slavery. You, yourself----justified the FILTH of Jizya as some kind of "tax for the common good"---------BULLSHIT (try to keep in mind-----my hubby's relatives paid that Jizya------it was NOT
USED to benefit their community---) Lots of Christians take exception to the historical reality of atrocities
committed BY CHRISTIANS--------stating that the actions were not consistent with Christianity-----whereas
muslims TAKE PRIDE in slut who tie bombs to their whorish asses for the purpose of murdering children-----
----an example is the adorations of the filthy bitch WAFA IDRIS------there are at least three schools for girls
named for that DIRTY WHORE--------as if the pile of dog shit is a SAINT for MURDERING FOR ALLAH

If Muslims were as bad as you say....what did stop them from just killing every living non muslim in the parts they ruled for centuries? why would the Jews run to Muslim countries when they were executed and kicked out of Europe? Why would still be christians, Jews, Chruches and Synagogues and lot of muslim Countries? How your husband wasnt excuted for not being Muslim living in a Muslim country?

Because Muslims got there asses kicked and started to behave themselves.

 

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Revisionist history. The Islamic rule in Spain is littered with atrocities and battles to control the Christian population.
Islam also takes credit for the converts already educated in Western sciences. Islam only takes, it does not give anything. That is also stated in the Koran.

Both Jews and Christians practiced their freely in Spain under Islamic rule, if Muslims as barbaric as you said they could've forced all Christians to either convert or die....they ruled southern Europe for centuries....Europe was in the dark ages, they brought civilisation to it. But you too arrogant to admit history facts.

Education:

First ever university was built a woman in fez Morocco, ans after the moors built many other universities in And Alicia. (Cordoba, Granada,....)

Health:

Tulun, a surgeon named Al-Zahrawi, often called the “father of surgery,” wrote an illustrated encyclopedia that would ultimately be used as a guide to European surgeons for the next five hundred years. Al-Zarawhi’s surgical instruments, such as scalpels, bone saws, and forceps are still used by modern surgeons. Al-Zahrawi is also reportedly the first surgeon to perform a caesarean operation.

Another significant Muslim discovery came in the 13th century, when the Muslim medic Ibn Nafis described the pulmonary circulation almost three hundred years before William Harvey, the English physician who is believed by many Westerners to have “discovered” it. The technique of inoculation, or the introduction of an antigenic substance or vaccine into the body to induce immunity to a disease, is also said to have been designed by Muslims in Turkey and brought to Europe by the wife of England’s Turkish ambassador in 1724.

We gonna need days to list all the science discoveries and contributions of Muslims to better the lives of humans.

Ask any medical student engineer, astrologist, scientist, philosopher, mathematician, ect....go to South of Spain, Damascus, Baghdad, Cairo and see history for yourself and compare it to what Muslims achieved and whay were the Europeans doing at that time.

I only cite things like to those who think that they are superior to others....my moro we are all humans, and we have bad and good in every race and civilisation and we should co exist.

Here is some Islamic science.

Qur’an 18:83
“They ask you about Dhu’l-Qarnain [Alexander the Great]. Say, ‘I will cite some-
thing of his story. We gave him authority in the land and means of accomplishing his goals.
So he followed a path until he reached the setting place of the sun. He saw that it set in
black, muddy, hot water. Near it he found people.”

http://www.prophetofdoom.net/pdf/Prophet_of_Doom_Appendix_Quotes.pdf
On coexistence.

“In the Muslim community, the holy war is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the [Muslim] mission and [the obligation to] convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force. Therefore, caliphate and royal authority are united [in Islam], so that the person in charge can devote the available strength to both of them [i.e. religion and politics] at the same time. The other religious groups did not have a universal mission, and the holy war was not a religious duty for them, save only for purposes of defense... Islam is under obligation to gain power over other nations.” (Muqaddimah)

Table of Contents IslamicSupremacism.org - A Short Course Previous Page Next Page 28 More Classic Jurist Opinions on Islamic Supremacism & Jihad Chronologically, 635 - 1800 AD 3 are Sufi Notice these are not cherry picked examples of Extremists™, rather they are revered in the Islamic world as among the most authoritative “classic jurists” in history, as the last page was. Scan their qualifications now, look at what they said later - you will see they are all open ended instructions to Muslims concerning relations with all non-Muslims, affirming Koran 9:29 is good for all times and places, and not just historical descriptions of events. Hitler, “Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation.” Mein Kampf. If you are scanning this page, bold numbers are most noteworthy. 6) Abu Bakr (d. 635) - 1st successor to Muhammad, 1st of the “4 rightly guided caliphs”. He is quoted in Bukhari 2:23:483. He led the apostate wars, and is the namesake of the first Islamic State caliph in 2014 Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi. 7) Umar ibn al-Khattab (~580 - 644) - 2nd successor to Muhammad, 2nd of the “4 rightly guided caliphs.” Umar is also quoted in Bukhari. The famous Pact of Umar was a peace treaty between the Caliph Umar and the Christians of Syria., who promised to abide by a detailed list of humiliating concessions as 2nd class citizens, that became a model for other places under Islamic law. The origin of this document is uncertain, but the “classic jurists” have taken it very seriously and quote from it, as you already saw with Ghazali on the last page. Umar on IS&J. 8) `Abdullah ibn `Abbas (~618 - 687) - said to be a paternal cousin of Muhammad. He is quoted in Bukhari and other hadith. During his life he was called The Great Scholar of the Ummah. “... famous for his deep insight, profound learning, keen memory, high intelligence, and perceptiveness.” He narrated about 1600 traditions (hadith), and wrote a complete commentary on the Koran Tafsir Ibn Abbas. ibn Abbas on IS&J. 9) Abu Yusuf (Yaqub ibn Ibrahim al-Ansari) (731 - 798) - Famous Hanafi jurist, one of the most important disciples of Abu Hanifa (founder of the Hanafi school). Judge in Baghdad, and later Chief Justice (qadi al-qudat) under Abbasid caliph Harun al-Rashid. Abu Yusuf on IS&J. 10) Muhammad al-Shaybani (754 - 811) - Famous Hanafi jurist, another of the most important disciples of Abu Hanifa. Author of several authoritative works, particularly an important work on jihad, The Islamic Law of Nations. al-Shaybani on IS&J. 11) Imam Al-Shafi’i (767 - 820) - founder of the Shafi’i school, jurist, one of the “4 great imams”. Disciple of al-Shaybani and Imam Malik (founder of the Maliki school): Al-Shafi'i on IS&J. 12) Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari (~838 - 923) - Very famous Persian Islamic scholar, historian, and prolific writer, “one of the major mujtahid Imams”, memorized Koran at 7. Most famous for his massive commentary on the Qur'an Tafsir al-Tabari, an equally large History of Prophets and Kings, and an encyclopedia of jurisprudence entitled al-Basit. al-Tabari on (9:29). 13) Ibn Abi Zayd al-Qayrawani (922 - 996) - Maliki jurist, “He was the Imam of the Malikis in his time, and their model.” Wrote the very well known Treatise on Maliki Fiqh available free on line today, La Risala. al-Qayrawani on IS&J 14) Abu Al-Hasan Al-Mawardi (972-1058) - Shafi'i jurist, Chief Justice in Baghdad, sociologist, considered as one of the most famous thinkers in political science in the middle ages before ibn Khaldun. Wrote several important books on Islamic governance, some translated into various languages. Al-Mawardi on IS&J. 15) Abu Ishaq Elbiri (11th century) - well-known Muslim jurist and poet of his time. In 1066, shortly before an estimated 4,000 Jews were killed in Muslim ruled Spain during the Golden Age™, he wrote: “Do not consider that killing them is treachery. Nay, it would be treachery to leave them scoffing. Bostom: Jihad and Islamic Antisemitism More Abu Ishaq on IS&J. 16) Ibn Abdun (d. 1134) - Maliki jurist in Andalusia, gave these legal opinions regarding Jews and Christians in Seville around 1100AD, during the Golden Age in Spain. “He emphasized that the qadi, a jurist should be a man of prudence, compassion, impartiality, and learning...” Ibn Abdun. on IS. 17) al-Zamakshari (~1075 - 1144) - “Persian renown for his great scholarship of the Qur'an and his magnificent mastery of the Arabic language. Scholars of all ranks and schools of thought have tremendous regard for him... His monumental work al-Kashaf `an Haqa'iq al-Tanzil wa `Uyun al-Aqawil fi Wujuh al-Ta'wil, is celebrated for its genius and linguistic depth.” From his Tafsir (Koran commentary), about al-Zamakshari on IS&J. 18) Shaikh Burhanuddin Ali of Marghinan (1135 - 1196) - Hanafi jurist, from his famous manual of Sunni law the Hidaya, which is considered an authoritative guide in Central Asia, Afghanistan, and India. This is not a historical account, it is a timeless religious ruling by an influential Hanafi jurist. “...[jihad] is established as a divine ordinance, by the word of God, who said in the Quran, ‘Slay the infidels,‘ and also by saying of the Prophet, ‘War is permanently established until the Day of Judgment.’ When the Muslims enter the enemy’s country and besiege the cities or strongholds of the infidels, it is necessary to invite them to embrace the faith, because Ibn ‘Abbas relates of the Prophet that he never destroyed any without previously inviting them to embrace the faith... If the infidels, upon receiving the call, neither consent to it nor agree to pay capitation tax, it is then incumbent on the Muslims to call upon God for assistance, and to make war upon them...; the Prophet, moreover, commands us so to do.” More Hidaya on Jihad 19) Ibn Qudamah al-Maqdisi (1147-1223) - Hanbali jurist, noted Islamic scholar and author of many treatises of Hanbali jurisprudence and doctrine, including al-Mughni (the most widely known textbook of Hanbali fiqh). Ibn Kathir (listed below) said of him, "proficient, there was not found in his era nor before it by a long span of time, anyone possessing more fiqh – understanding of the religion – than him." al-Maqdisi on IS&J. 20) Yahya ibn Sharaf al-Nawawi (~1234-1278) - Shafi'i jurist, Syrian, author, wrote “numerous works of great importance” including Riyad-us Saliheen, and Minhaj al-Talibin, both classical shafi'i manuals of Islamic Law. al-Nawawi on IS&J. 21) 'Abdallah ibn 'Umar al-Baydawi (~1286-1316) - Shafi’i jurist, chief judge of Shiraz, Persian scholar, writer. In his important Qur’anic exegesis The Secrets of Revelation and The Secrets of Interpretation, he gives this ruling on Qur’an 5:82 & 2:61, about the Jews “humiliation and wretchedness”. 22) Abu Mansur Hasan bin Yusuf Al-Hilli (1250-1326) - Shi’ite jurist, “one of the greatest Muslim jurist and scholars of his time”, prolific writer. Al-Hilli on IS&J. 23) Ibn al-Qayyim al-Jawziyya (1292-1350) - Hanbali jurist, important disciple of Ibn Tamiyyah, eventually becoming his successor Imam. Qur'anic commentator, teacher, most notably of Ibn Kathir. He is often quoted by other Muslims in their rulings on jihad. For example here. 24) Ziauddin Barani (1285-1357) - Indian jurist, historian, political thinker, writer, companion of Sultan Muhammad b. Tughluq. He pleads for an all out struggle against Hinduism, and discusses whether jizya should be accepted from them, as it is from the People of the Book - Jews and Christians. Barani on IS&J. 25) Ahmad Ibn Naqib al-Misri (1302-1368AD) - compiled Reliance of the Traveller. On IS&J: “Jihad means to war against non-Muslims, and is etymologically derived from the word mujahada signifying warfare to establish the religion. And it is the lesser jihad. As for the greater jihad, it is spiritual warfare against the lower self...” (Reliance o9.0) That’s all it says about the “greater jihad”, then spends 11 pages explaining the “lesser jihad” like this:
 “The caliph makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians . . . until they become Muslim or pay the non-Muslim poll tax.” (o9.8) there’s a comment added from a Jordanian jurist: the caliph wages this war only “provided that he has first invited [Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians] to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya) . . . while remaining in their ancestral religions... Though, if there is no caliph, no permission is required [to fight jihad].” (o9.6) Certified by al-Azhar University in 1991  "conforms to the practice and faith of the orthodox Sunni community." Reliance of the Traveller quotes K-47:35 then says Muslims shouldn’t make truces in war when they are uppermost, only when weak, and never for more than 10 years (o9.16). Reliance of the Traveller on Christians, inspired by the 7th century Pact of Umar above: "... forbidden to ring church bells or display crosses, recite the Torah or Evangel aloud, or make public display of their funerals and feast days, and are forbidden to build new churches." (Reliance o.11.5,6,7) 26) Ibn Kathir (1323-1396) - Shafi’i jurist, Syrian disciple of Ibn Taymiyya, a ‘qadi’, hafiz (memorized the Koran), master scholar of history and the Qur’an. His 5,000 page commentary Tafsir Ibn Kathir is “famous all over the Muslim world and among Muslims in the Western world, and is one of the most widely used explanations of the Qu’ran today”. In it he gives this commentary on the Pact of Umar “treaty of peace”: “Paying Jizya Is a Sign of Kufr and Disgrace” “Allah said “until they pay the Jizya,” if they do not choose to embrace Islam, “with willing submission” in defeat and subservience, “and feel themselves subdued,” disgraced, humiliated and belittled. Therefore, Muslims are not allowed to honor the people of Dhimma or elevate them above Muslims, for they are miserable, disgraced, and humiliated. Muslim recorded from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet said, “Do not initiate the Salam to the Jews and the Christians, and if you meet them in a road, force them to its narrowest alley.” (Muslim B.26, #5389) This is why the leader of the faithful ‘Umar... demanded his well known conditions to be met by the Christians, these conditions that ensured their continued humiliation, degradation, and disgrace. The scholars of Hadith narrated from Abdur-Rahman... the terms of the treaty of peace he conducted with the Christians: This is a document to... ‘Umar the leader of the faithful, for the Christians of such and such a city. When you [Muslims] came to us we requested safety for ourselves, children, property and followers of our religion. We made a condition on ourselves that we will neither erect in our areas a monastery, church, or a sanctuary for a monk, nor restore any place of worship that needs restoration... We will respect Muslims, move from places we sit in if they choose to sit in them...” And so on, he finishes the rest of the Pact of Umar. (Tafsir Ibn Kathir (Riyadh, 2000), vol 4, pp. 404-407) More Ibn Kathir on IS&J. 27) Ibn Khaldun (1332-1406) - Maliki jurist, “The most important figure in the field of History and Sociology in Muslim History. He is one of those shining stars that contributed so richly to the understanding of Civilization." Professor John Esposito, Ph.D., taught a class Introduction to Islamic Civilization where a month was spent on part IV Ibn Khaldun on Islamic Civilization. From Khaldun’s famous Muqaddimah: An Introduction to History: “We do not think that we should blacken the pages of this book with discussion of their [Christian] dogmas of unbelief. In general, they are well known. All of them are unbelief. This is clearly stated in the noble Koran. To discuss or argue those things with them is not up to us. It is for them to choose between conversion to Islam, payment of the poll tax, or death.” (Vol 1, p. 473) Ibn Khaldun  Celebrated Supremacist “In the Muslim community, the holy war is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the [Muslim] mission and [the obligation to] convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force. Therefore, caliphate and royal authority are united [in Islam], so that the person in charge can devote the available strength to both of them [i.e. religion and politics] at the same time. The other religious groups did not have a universal mission, and the holy war was not a religious duty for them, save only for purposes of defense... Islam is under obligation to gain power over other nations.” (Muqaddimah) 28) Shaykh Muhammad b. Abd al-Karim al-Maghili (d.~1504) - From present day Algeria. Led a successful campaign to expel the city's Jews: “On the day of payment [the dhimmis] shall be assembled in a public place like the suq. They should be standing there waiting in the lowest and dirtiest place. The acting officials representing the Law shall ... adopt a threatening attitude so that it seems to them, as well as to the others, that our object is to degrade them by pretending to take their possessions. They will realize that we are doing them a favor (again) in accepting from them the jizya and letting them go free. Then they shall be dragged one by one ... for the exacting of payment. When paying, the dhimmi will receive a blow and will be thrust aside so that he will think that he has escaped the sword through this (insult). This is the way that the friends of the Lord, of the first and last generations, will act toward their infidel enemies, for might belongs to Allah, to His Apostle, and to the Believers.” (From Ahkam ahl al-Dhimma Faith Freedom International Quotes from Islamic jurists) 29) Imam Al-Suyuti (1445-1505) - Sufi, Hanafi jurist, famous Egyptian writer, multidisciplinary scholar. Memorized the Koran at 8. The mujtahid imam and foremost hadith master, historian, biographer, he authored works in virtually every Islamic science. Recognized as the most prolific author in the realm of Islamic literature, writing nearly 600 books and treatises, including co-compiling the most widespread condensed commentary of Qur'an in our time, Tafsir al-Jalalayn. Note his Sufi mysticism did not conflict with his views here on (9:29). 30) Fadl-Ullah bin Ruzbihan Isfahani (1456 - 1521) - Shafi’i jurist, said this in his Muslim Conduct of State: Suluk ul-Muluk, summarizing Shafi'i and Hanafi law. 31) Shaikh Abdul Quddus Gangoh (~1456~1537) - Sufi Indian poet, among the most prominent Sufi Shaykhs of the Chishti Silsila branch. Scholar K.S. Lal says: “Gangoh need be cited because he belonged to the Chishtia Silsila considered to be the most tolerant of all Sufi groups. He wrote letters to the Sultan Sikandar Lodi, Babur, and Humayun to re—invigorate the Sharia and reduce the Hindus to payers of land tax and jizya. To Babur he wrote: “No non—Muslim should be given any office or employment in the Diwan of Islam... Furthermore, in conformity with the principles of the Shariat they should be subjected to all types of indignities and humiliations. They should be made to pay the jizya...They should be disallowed from donning the dress of the Muslims... They should not be allowed to consider themselves the equal to the Muslims.” (K.S. Lal, The Legacy of Muslim Rule in India, New Delhi, Aditya Prakashan, 1992, p. 237, Quotes from Islamic jurists) 32) Muhammad Taqi al-Majlisi (~1616–1698) - authoritative Shi’ite jurist and prolific hadith collector, educated in Islamic philosophy and mysticism. Author of over 100 books in Arabic and Persian, including one of the most important hadith collections to Shia, Bihar al-Anwar. Had a very close relationship with at least 2 of the Safavid monarchs, Shah Sulayman (d.1694), who in 1686 appointed him the “Sheik of Islam” in Isfahan, and Shah Sultan Husayn (d.1713) who in 1694 changed his title to Mullabashi, he was the highest religious and executive authority during those times. During his last four years under Husayn he was the de facto ruler of Iran.“ (Andrew Bostom Legacy of Jihad) “Some say that they [the dhimmis] should not be informed of the amount of the jizya so that they should live continuously, in the course of the year, in a state of anxiety and agitation. [...] ... It is also incumbent upon Muslims that they should not accept from them victuals with which they had come into contact, such as distillates <and oils>, which cannot be purified. If something can be purified, such as clothes, if they are dry, they can be accepted, they are clean. But if they [the dhimmis] had come into contact with those cloths in moisture they should be rinsed with water after being obtained… It would also be better if the ruler of the Muslims would establish that all infidels could not move out of their homes on days when it rains or snows because they would make Muslims impure... Muslims should also be urged to show disrespect toward them [the dhimmis].” More al-Maqdisi on IS. (Excerpted from "Risala-ya Sawa'iq al-Yahud [The Treatise Lightning Bolts against the Jews]." English translation by V.B. Moreen in Die Welt des Islams 32 (1992): 187-193.) (Andrew Bostom Legacy of Jihad) 33) Shah Aladihlawi Wali-Allah (1703–1762) - Sufi, Hanafi jurist, Islamic scholar from Delhi. Memorized Koran at 7. “One of the greatest religious thinkers produced by Muslim India... endowed with saintly qualities.” Authored 23 books in Arabic, and 28 in Persian. In spite of his Sufi mysticism, he said: “It has become clear to my mind that the kingdom of heaven has predestined that kafirs should be reduced to a state of humiliation and treated with utter contempt.” More Wali-Allah on IS&J. Obama in his 2009 Cairo speech at al-Azhar said: “And when the first Muslim-American was recently elected to Congress, he took the oath to defend our Constitution using the same Holy Koran that one of our Founding Fathers – Thomas Jefferson – kept in his personal library.” That’s deceptive: Sidi Haji Abdrahaman (in 1786) - Maybe not a religious authority so I am not giving him a number, but he was Tripoli’s Ambassador to London giving his opinion on IS&J. Jefferson’s interest in the Koran had to do with getting to know the Muslim (Barbary) pirates before they went to war. Christopher Hitchens explains: “...in 1786, the new United States found that it was having to deal ... with ... the Muslim religion. The Barbary states of North Africa ... were using the ports of today's Algeria, Libya, and Tunisia to wage a war of piracy and enslavement against all shipping that passed through the Strait of Gibraltar. Thousands of vessels were taken, and more than a million Europeans and Americans sold into slavery. The fledgling United States of America was in an especially difficult position, having forfeited the protection of the British Royal Navy. Under this pressure, Congress gave assent to the Treaty of Tripoli... which stated roundly that "the government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion, as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen." ... Jefferson and John Adams ... went to call on Tripoli's envoy to London, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman. They asked him by what right he extorted money and took slaves in this way. As Jefferson later reported to Congress: “The ambassador answered us that [the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.” C. Hitchens - Jefferson's Koran Medieval historian Raymond Ibrahim, from The Historical Reality of the Muslim Conquests: “Because it is now almost axiomatic for American school textbooks to whitewash all things Islamic (see here for example), it may be useful to examine one of those aspects that are regularly distorted: the Muslim conquests. Few events of history are so well documented and attested to as are these conquests, which commenced soon after the death of the Muslim prophet Muhammad (632) and tapered off circa 750. Large swathes of the Old World—from the India in the east, to Spain in the west—were conquered and consolidated by the sword of Islam during this time. By the standards of history, the reality of these conquests is unassailable, for history proper concerns itself with primary sources; and the Islamic conquests are thoroughly documented. More importantly, the overwhelming majority of primary source materials we rely on do not come from non-Muslims, who might be accused of bias. Rather, the foremost historians bequeathing to posterity thousands of pages of source materials documenting the Islamic conquests were not only Muslims themselves; they were—and still are—regarded by today’s Muslims as pious and trustworthy scholars (generically, the ulema).“ Forward to Consequences of Rejecting Reason

Last few hundreds of years...who went around killing millions upon millions and force Christianity on indigenous people, make them slaves and steal their resources?
Who started WW1 and WW2? Vietnam? Korean war? Iraq invasion? Regime changes...sells arms and bombs to hostile regimes and terrorist groups? MUslims?

Where have you been in the last 100 years------who committed genocide upon the Christians of
Nigeria and Uganda? Who committed genocide upon the Christians of both ARMENIA AND
TURKEY-----who did east Pakistan ? ------learn a bit of history------you guys were ADOLF's
faves------of course he did reject Christianity but he did not reject islam. Who is MURDERING so
HAPPILY TODAY in the name of the rapist of mecca?. Did you ever hear of GENGHIS KHAN-----
he LOVED ISLAM for what it did for him---------build a following that murdered in the HUNDREDS OF
MILLIONS (lots of muslims reject the idea that he was actually a PIOUS muslim------only his
minions were--------genocide upon the Zoroastrians too) Feel free to ask questions----my very own hubby
was born in a shariah shit hole in the status of DHIMMI------(as were the Christians and jews of muslim spain)-------feel free to ask questions about your history. You may know very little about it------if you were
born in a shariah shit hole------chances are that your recent ancestors were illiterate

Point by point:

Genocide in Nigeria by Muslims? in what text book is this? if you gonna call what Boko Haram terrorist acts as a genocide than what will the US wars would be called?
and In Nigeria christians and Muslims leave side by side, they even elected a Muslim president and Christians are the majority....surprising isnt it?

Armenia and Turkey tha'ts a problem between 2 nations and not two religions.

Timothy Mcveigh and others don't represent Christianity and same goes for the Bin laden and his likes. Hard to understand?

I by now know that your hubby lived in a Muslim country? you know how? You said a zillion times, we get it he was tortured, killed but somehomw now he's alive and sound.

you must be very young (as well as ignorant) You do not know about the genocide of two million
Christian children in Biafra/Nigeria? Armenia was under the control of the FILTHY OTTOMAN
CALIPHATE------when muslims murdered the Christian Armenians -----1915-17. DOOR TO DOOR
armed with knives and clubs ---------the rivers ran red with blood-------one of my patients was a witness. AS a child, she saw her whole family DECAPITATED IN HONOR OF ALLAH (news flash-----there are always survivors-------hubby was almost dead when he reached civilization and spent YEARS hospitalized
for the sickness he contracted in the Islamic shit hole-------several sibs died along the way----a few years
later----there was a pogrom in the same city in which the GLORIOUS ASS LICKERS OF MUHUMMAD slit the throats of infants in order to delight the muslimah sluts---------THERE ARE ALWAYS SURVIVORS)
Why do you deny the facts of history? For the record-----POPE FRANCIS ADMITTED to Christian genocide in the Americas------good of him. He does not have the mind of an IMAM. How do you feel
about the ARMENIAN GENOCIDE or the BIAFRAN GENOCIDE?-----want to address the genocide in
east Pakistan of the TAKFIRI BENGALIS? ----hindus too------but in shariah law they don't count

 

[irosie91]

Revisionist history. The Islamic rule in Spain is littered with atrocities and battles to control the Christian population.
Islam also takes credit for the converts already educated in Western sciences. Islam only takes, it does not give anything. That is also stated in the Koran.

Both Jews and Christians practiced their freely in Spain under Islamic rule, if Muslims as barbaric as you said they could've forced all Christians to either convert or die....they ruled southern Europe for centuries....Europe was in the dark ages, they brought civilisation to it. But you too arrogant to admit history facts.

Education:

First ever university was built a woman in fez Morocco, ans after the moors built many other universities in And Alicia. (Cordoba, Granada,....)

Health:

Tulun, a surgeon named Al-Zahrawi, often called the “father of surgery,” wrote an illustrated encyclopedia that would ultimately be used as a guide to European surgeons for the next five hundred years. Al-Zarawhi’s surgical instruments, such as scalpels, bone saws, and forceps are still used by modern surgeons. Al-Zahrawi is also reportedly the first surgeon to perform a caesarean operation.

Another significant Muslim discovery came in the 13th century, when the Muslim medic Ibn Nafis described the pulmonary circulation almost three hundred years before William Harvey, the English physician who is believed by many Westerners to have “discovered” it. The technique of inoculation, or the introduction of an antigenic substance or vaccine into the body to induce immunity to a disease, is also said to have been designed by Muslims in Turkey and brought to Europe by the wife of England’s Turkish ambassador in 1724.

We gonna need days to list all the science discoveries and contributions of Muslims to better the lives of humans.

Ask any medical student engineer, astrologist, scientist, philosopher, mathematician, ect....go to South of Spain, Damascus, Baghdad, Cairo and see history for yourself and compare it to what Muslims achieved and whay were the Europeans doing at that time.

I only cite things like to those who think that they are superior to others....my moro we are all humans, and we have bad and good in every race and civilisation and we should co exist.

Here is some Islamic science.

Qur’an 18:83
“They ask you about Dhu’l-Qarnain [Alexander the Great]. Say, ‘I will cite some-
thing of his story. We gave him authority in the land and means of accomplishing his goals.
So he followed a path until he reached the setting place of the sun. He saw that it set in
black, muddy, hot water. Near it he found people.”

http://www.prophetofdoom.net/pdf/Prophet_of_Doom_Appendix_Quotes.pdf
On coexistence.

“In the Muslim community, the holy war is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the [Muslim] mission and [the obligation to] convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force. Therefore, caliphate and royal authority are united [in Islam], so that the person in charge can devote the available strength to both of them [i.e. religion and politics] at the same time. The other religious groups did not have a universal mission, and the holy war was not a religious duty for them, save only for purposes of defense... Islam is under obligation to gain power over other nations.” (Muqaddimah)

Table of Contents IslamicSupremacism.org - A Short Course Previous Page Next Page 28 More Classic Jurist Opinions on Islamic Supremacism & Jihad Chronologically, 635 - 1800 AD 3 are Sufi Notice these are not cherry picked examples of Extremists™, rather they are revered in the Islamic world as among the most authoritative “classic jurists” in history, as the last page was. Scan their qualifications now, look at what they said later - you will see they are all open ended instructions to Muslims concerning relations with all non-Muslims, affirming Koran 9:29 is good for all times and places, and not just historical descriptions of events. Hitler, “Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation.” Mein Kampf. If you are scanning this page, bold numbers are most noteworthy. 6) Abu Bakr (d. 635) - 1st successor to Muhammad, 1st of the “4 rightly guided caliphs”. He is quoted in Bukhari 2:23:483. He led the apostate wars, and is the namesake of the first Islamic State caliph in 2014 Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi. 7) Umar ibn al-Khattab (~580 - 644) - 2nd successor to Muhammad, 2nd of the “4 rightly guided caliphs.” Umar is also quoted in Bukhari. The famous Pact of Umar was a peace treaty between the Caliph Umar and the Christians of Syria., who promised to abide by a detailed list of humiliating concessions as 2nd class citizens, that became a model for other places under Islamic law. The origin of this document is uncertain, but the “classic jurists” have taken it very seriously and quote from it, as you already saw with Ghazali on the last page. Umar on IS&J. 8) `Abdullah ibn `Abbas (~618 - 687) - said to be a paternal cousin of Muhammad. He is quoted in Bukhari and other hadith. During his life he was called The Great Scholar of the Ummah. “... famous for his deep insight, profound learning, keen memory, high intelligence, and perceptiveness.” He narrated about 1600 traditions (hadith), and wrote a complete commentary on the Koran Tafsir Ibn Abbas. ibn Abbas on IS&J. 9) Abu Yusuf (Yaqub ibn Ibrahim al-Ansari) (731 - 798) - Famous Hanafi jurist, one of the most important disciples of Abu Hanifa (founder of the Hanafi school). Judge in Baghdad, and later Chief Justice (qadi al-qudat) under Abbasid caliph Harun al-Rashid. Abu Yusuf on IS&J. 10) Muhammad al-Shaybani (754 - 811) - Famous Hanafi jurist, another of the most important disciples of Abu Hanifa. Author of several authoritative works, particularly an important work on jihad, The Islamic Law of Nations. al-Shaybani on IS&J. 11) Imam Al-Shafi’i (767 - 820) - founder of the Shafi’i school, jurist, one of the “4 great imams”. Disciple of al-Shaybani and Imam Malik (founder of the Maliki school): Al-Shafi'i on IS&J. 12) Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari (~838 - 923) - Very famous Persian Islamic scholar, historian, and prolific writer, “one of the major mujtahid Imams”, memorized Koran at 7. Most famous for his massive commentary on the Qur'an Tafsir al-Tabari, an equally large History of Prophets and Kings, and an encyclopedia of jurisprudence entitled al-Basit. al-Tabari on (9:29). 13) Ibn Abi Zayd al-Qayrawani (922 - 996) - Maliki jurist, “He was the Imam of the Malikis in his time, and their model.” Wrote the very well known Treatise on Maliki Fiqh available free on line today, La Risala. al-Qayrawani on IS&J 14) Abu Al-Hasan Al-Mawardi (972-1058) - Shafi'i jurist, Chief Justice in Baghdad, sociologist, considered as one of the most famous thinkers in political science in the middle ages before ibn Khaldun. Wrote several important books on Islamic governance, some translated into various languages. Al-Mawardi on IS&J. 15) Abu Ishaq Elbiri (11th century) - well-known Muslim jurist and poet of his time. In 1066, shortly before an estimated 4,000 Jews were killed in Muslim ruled Spain during the Golden Age™, he wrote: “Do not consider that killing them is treachery. Nay, it would be treachery to leave them scoffing. Bostom: Jihad and Islamic Antisemitism More Abu Ishaq on IS&J. 16) Ibn Abdun (d. 1134) - Maliki jurist in Andalusia, gave these legal opinions regarding Jews and Christians in Seville around 1100AD, during the Golden Age in Spain. “He emphasized that the qadi, a jurist should be a man of prudence, compassion, impartiality, and learning...” Ibn Abdun. on IS. 17) al-Zamakshari (~1075 - 1144) - “Persian renown for his great scholarship of the Qur'an and his magnificent mastery of the Arabic language. Scholars of all ranks and schools of thought have tremendous regard for him... His monumental work al-Kashaf `an Haqa'iq al-Tanzil wa `Uyun al-Aqawil fi Wujuh al-Ta'wil, is celebrated for its genius and linguistic depth.” From his Tafsir (Koran commentary), about al-Zamakshari on IS&J. 18) Shaikh Burhanuddin Ali of Marghinan (1135 - 1196) - Hanafi jurist, from his famous manual of Sunni law the Hidaya, which is considered an authoritative guide in Central Asia, Afghanistan, and India. This is not a historical account, it is a timeless religious ruling by an influential Hanafi jurist. “...[jihad] is established as a divine ordinance, by the word of God, who said in the Quran, ‘Slay the infidels,‘ and also by saying of the Prophet, ‘War is permanently established until the Day of Judgment.’ When the Muslims enter the enemy’s country and besiege the cities or strongholds of the infidels, it is necessary to invite them to embrace the faith, because Ibn ‘Abbas relates of the Prophet that he never destroyed any without previously inviting them to embrace the faith... If the infidels, upon receiving the call, neither consent to it nor agree to pay capitation tax, it is then incumbent on the Muslims to call upon God for assistance, and to make war upon them...; the Prophet, moreover, commands us so to do.” More Hidaya on Jihad 19) Ibn Qudamah al-Maqdisi (1147-1223) - Hanbali jurist, noted Islamic scholar and author of many treatises of Hanbali jurisprudence and doctrine, including al-Mughni (the most widely known textbook of Hanbali fiqh). Ibn Kathir (listed below) said of him, "proficient, there was not found in his era nor before it by a long span of time, anyone possessing more fiqh – understanding of the religion – than him." al-Maqdisi on IS&J. 20) Yahya ibn Sharaf al-Nawawi (~1234-1278) - Shafi'i jurist, Syrian, author, wrote “numerous works of great importance” including Riyad-us Saliheen, and Minhaj al-Talibin, both classical shafi'i manuals of Islamic Law. al-Nawawi on IS&J. 21) 'Abdallah ibn 'Umar al-Baydawi (~1286-1316) - Shafi’i jurist, chief judge of Shiraz, Persian scholar, writer. In his important Qur’anic exegesis The Secrets of Revelation and The Secrets of Interpretation, he gives this ruling on Qur’an 5:82 & 2:61, about the Jews “humiliation and wretchedness”. 22) Abu Mansur Hasan bin Yusuf Al-Hilli (1250-1326) - Shi’ite jurist, “one of the greatest Muslim jurist and scholars of his time”, prolific writer. Al-Hilli on IS&J. 23) Ibn al-Qayyim al-Jawziyya (1292-1350) - Hanbali jurist, important disciple of Ibn Tamiyyah, eventually becoming his successor Imam. Qur'anic commentator, teacher, most notably of Ibn Kathir. He is often quoted by other Muslims in their rulings on jihad. For example here. 24) Ziauddin Barani (1285-1357) - Indian jurist, historian, political thinker, writer, companion of Sultan Muhammad b. Tughluq. He pleads for an all out struggle against Hinduism, and discusses whether jizya should be accepted from them, as it is from the People of the Book - Jews and Christians. Barani on IS&J. 25) Ahmad Ibn Naqib al-Misri (1302-1368AD) - compiled Reliance of the Traveller. On IS&J: “Jihad means to war against non-Muslims, and is etymologically derived from the word mujahada signifying warfare to establish the religion. And it is the lesser jihad. As for the greater jihad, it is spiritual warfare against the lower self...” (Reliance o9.0) That’s all it says about the “greater jihad”, then spends 11 pages explaining the “lesser jihad” like this:
 “The caliph makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians . . . until they become Muslim or pay the non-Muslim poll tax.” (o9.8) there’s a comment added from a Jordanian jurist: the caliph wages this war only “provided that he has first invited [Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians] to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya) . . . while remaining in their ancestral religions... Though, if there is no caliph, no permission is required [to fight jihad].” (o9.6) Certified by al-Azhar University in 1991  "conforms to the practice and faith of the orthodox Sunni community." Reliance of the Traveller quotes K-47:35 then says Muslims shouldn’t make truces in war when they are uppermost, only when weak, and never for more than 10 years (o9.16). Reliance of the Traveller on Christians, inspired by the 7th century Pact of Umar above: "... forbidden to ring church bells or display crosses, recite the Torah or Evangel aloud, or make public display of their funerals and feast days, and are forbidden to build new churches." (Reliance o.11.5,6,7) 26) Ibn Kathir (1323-1396) - Shafi’i jurist, Syrian disciple of Ibn Taymiyya, a ‘qadi’, hafiz (memorized the Koran), master scholar of history and the Qur’an. His 5,000 page commentary Tafsir Ibn Kathir is “famous all over the Muslim world and among Muslims in the Western world, and is one of the most widely used explanations of the Qu’ran today”. In it he gives this commentary on the Pact of Umar “treaty of peace”: “Paying Jizya Is a Sign of Kufr and Disgrace” “Allah said “until they pay the Jizya,” if they do not choose to embrace Islam, “with willing submission” in defeat and subservience, “and feel themselves subdued,” disgraced, humiliated and belittled. Therefore, Muslims are not allowed to honor the people of Dhimma or elevate them above Muslims, for they are miserable, disgraced, and humiliated. Muslim recorded from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet said, “Do not initiate the Salam to the Jews and the Christians, and if you meet them in a road, force them to its narrowest alley.” (Muslim B.26, #5389) This is why the leader of the faithful ‘Umar... demanded his well known conditions to be met by the Christians, these conditions that ensured their continued humiliation, degradation, and disgrace. The scholars of Hadith narrated from Abdur-Rahman... the terms of the treaty of peace he conducted with the Christians: This is a document to... ‘Umar the leader of the faithful, for the Christians of such and such a city. When you [Muslims] came to us we requested safety for ourselves, children, property and followers of our religion. We made a condition on ourselves that we will neither erect in our areas a monastery, church, or a sanctuary for a monk, nor restore any place of worship that needs restoration... We will respect Muslims, move from places we sit in if they choose to sit in them...” And so on, he finishes the rest of the Pact of Umar. (Tafsir Ibn Kathir (Riyadh, 2000), vol 4, pp. 404-407) More Ibn Kathir on IS&J. 27) Ibn Khaldun (1332-1406) - Maliki jurist, “The most important figure in the field of History and Sociology in Muslim History. He is one of those shining stars that contributed so richly to the understanding of Civilization." Professor John Esposito, Ph.D., taught a class Introduction to Islamic Civilization where a month was spent on part IV Ibn Khaldun on Islamic Civilization. From Khaldun’s famous Muqaddimah: An Introduction to History: “We do not think that we should blacken the pages of this book with discussion of their [Christian] dogmas of unbelief. In general, they are well known. All of them are unbelief. This is clearly stated in the noble Koran. To discuss or argue those things with them is not up to us. It is for them to choose between conversion to Islam, payment of the poll tax, or death.” (Vol 1, p. 473) Ibn Khaldun  Celebrated Supremacist “In the Muslim community, the holy war is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the [Muslim] mission and [the obligation to] convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force. Therefore, caliphate and royal authority are united [in Islam], so that the person in charge can devote the available strength to both of them [i.e. religion and politics] at the same time. The other religious groups did not have a universal mission, and the holy war was not a religious duty for them, save only for purposes of defense... Islam is under obligation to gain power over other nations.” (Muqaddimah) 28) Shaykh Muhammad b. Abd al-Karim al-Maghili (d.~1504) - From present day Algeria. Led a successful campaign to expel the city's Jews: “On the day of payment [the dhimmis] shall be assembled in a public place like the suq. They should be standing there waiting in the lowest and dirtiest place. The acting officials representing the Law shall ... adopt a threatening attitude so that it seems to them, as well as to the others, that our object is to degrade them by pretending to take their possessions. They will realize that we are doing them a favor (again) in accepting from them the jizya and letting them go free. Then they shall be dragged one by one ... for the exacting of payment. When paying, the dhimmi will receive a blow and will be thrust aside so that he will think that he has escaped the sword through this (insult). This is the way that the friends of the Lord, of the first and last generations, will act toward their infidel enemies, for might belongs to Allah, to His Apostle, and to the Believers.” (From Ahkam ahl al-Dhimma Faith Freedom International Quotes from Islamic jurists) 29) Imam Al-Suyuti (1445-1505) - Sufi, Hanafi jurist, famous Egyptian writer, multidisciplinary scholar. Memorized the Koran at 8. The mujtahid imam and foremost hadith master, historian, biographer, he authored works in virtually every Islamic science. Recognized as the most prolific author in the realm of Islamic literature, writing nearly 600 books and treatises, including co-compiling the most widespread condensed commentary of Qur'an in our time, Tafsir al-Jalalayn. Note his Sufi mysticism did not conflict with his views here on (9:29). 30) Fadl-Ullah bin Ruzbihan Isfahani (1456 - 1521) - Shafi’i jurist, said this in his Muslim Conduct of State: Suluk ul-Muluk, summarizing Shafi'i and Hanafi law. 31) Shaikh Abdul Quddus Gangoh (~1456~1537) - Sufi Indian poet, among the most prominent Sufi Shaykhs of the Chishti Silsila branch. Scholar K.S. Lal says: “Gangoh need be cited because he belonged to the Chishtia Silsila considered to be the most tolerant of all Sufi groups. He wrote letters to the Sultan Sikandar Lodi, Babur, and Humayun to re—invigorate the Sharia and reduce the Hindus to payers of land tax and jizya. To Babur he wrote: “No non—Muslim should be given any office or employment in the Diwan of Islam... Furthermore, in conformity with the principles of the Shariat they should be subjected to all types of indignities and humiliations. They should be made to pay the jizya...They should be disallowed from donning the dress of the Muslims... They should not be allowed to consider themselves the equal to the Muslims.” (K.S. Lal, The Legacy of Muslim Rule in India, New Delhi, Aditya Prakashan, 1992, p. 237, Quotes from Islamic jurists) 32) Muhammad Taqi al-Majlisi (~1616–1698) - authoritative Shi’ite jurist and prolific hadith collector, educated in Islamic philosophy and mysticism. Author of over 100 books in Arabic and Persian, including one of the most important hadith collections to Shia, Bihar al-Anwar. Had a very close relationship with at least 2 of the Safavid monarchs, Shah Sulayman (d.1694), who in 1686 appointed him the “Sheik of Islam” in Isfahan, and Shah Sultan Husayn (d.1713) who in 1694 changed his title to Mullabashi, he was the highest religious and executive authority during those times. During his last four years under Husayn he was the de facto ruler of Iran.“ (Andrew Bostom Legacy of Jihad) “Some say that they [the dhimmis] should not be informed of the amount of the jizya so that they should live continuously, in the course of the year, in a state of anxiety and agitation. [...] ... It is also incumbent upon Muslims that they should not accept from them victuals with which they had come into contact, such as distillates <and oils>, which cannot be purified. If something can be purified, such as clothes, if they are dry, they can be accepted, they are clean. But if they [the dhimmis] had come into contact with those cloths in moisture they should be rinsed with water after being obtained… It would also be better if the ruler of the Muslims would establish that all infidels could not move out of their homes on days when it rains or snows because they would make Muslims impure... Muslims should also be urged to show disrespect toward them [the dhimmis].” More al-Maqdisi on IS. (Excerpted from "Risala-ya Sawa'iq al-Yahud [The Treatise Lightning Bolts against the Jews]." English translation by V.B. Moreen in Die Welt des Islams 32 (1992): 187-193.) (Andrew Bostom Legacy of Jihad) 33) Shah Aladihlawi Wali-Allah (1703–1762) - Sufi, Hanafi jurist, Islamic scholar from Delhi. Memorized Koran at 7. “One of the greatest religious thinkers produced by Muslim India... endowed with saintly qualities.” Authored 23 books in Arabic, and 28 in Persian. In spite of his Sufi mysticism, he said: “It has become clear to my mind that the kingdom of heaven has predestined that kafirs should be reduced to a state of humiliation and treated with utter contempt.” More Wali-Allah on IS&J. Obama in his 2009 Cairo speech at al-Azhar said: “And when the first Muslim-American was recently elected to Congress, he took the oath to defend our Constitution using the same Holy Koran that one of our Founding Fathers – Thomas Jefferson – kept in his personal library.” That’s deceptive: Sidi Haji Abdrahaman (in 1786) - Maybe not a religious authority so I am not giving him a number, but he was Tripoli’s Ambassador to London giving his opinion on IS&J. Jefferson’s interest in the Koran had to do with getting to know the Muslim (Barbary) pirates before they went to war. Christopher Hitchens explains: “...in 1786, the new United States found that it was having to deal ... with ... the Muslim religion. The Barbary states of North Africa ... were using the ports of today's Algeria, Libya, and Tunisia to wage a war of piracy and enslavement against all shipping that passed through the Strait of Gibraltar. Thousands of vessels were taken, and more than a million Europeans and Americans sold into slavery. The fledgling United States of America was in an especially difficult position, having forfeited the protection of the British Royal Navy. Under this pressure, Congress gave assent to the Treaty of Tripoli... which stated roundly that "the government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion, as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen." ... Jefferson and John Adams ... went to call on Tripoli's envoy to London, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman. They asked him by what right he extorted money and took slaves in this way. As Jefferson later reported to Congress: “The ambassador answered us that [the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.” C. Hitchens - Jefferson's Koran Medieval historian Raymond Ibrahim, from The Historical Reality of the Muslim Conquests: “Because it is now almost axiomatic for American school textbooks to whitewash all things Islamic (see here for example), it may be useful to examine one of those aspects that are regularly distorted: the Muslim conquests. Few events of history are so well documented and attested to as are these conquests, which commenced soon after the death of the Muslim prophet Muhammad (632) and tapered off circa 750. Large swathes of the Old World—from the India in the east, to Spain in the west—were conquered and consolidated by the sword of Islam during this time. By the standards of history, the reality of these conquests is unassailable, for history proper concerns itself with primary sources; and the Islamic conquests are thoroughly documented. More importantly, the overwhelming majority of primary source materials we rely on do not come from non-Muslims, who might be accused of bias. Rather, the foremost historians bequeathing to posterity thousands of pages of source materials documenting the Islamic conquests were not only Muslims themselves; they were—and still are—regarded by today’s Muslims as pious and trustworthy scholars (generically, the ulema).“ Forward to Consequences of Rejecting Reason

Last few hundreds of years...who went around killing millions upon millions and force Christianity on indigenous people, make them slaves and steal their resources?
Who started WW1 and WW2? Vietnam? Korean war? Iraq invasion? Regime changes...sells arms and bombs to hostile regimes and terrorist groups? MUslims?

Those wars had 0 to do with Christianity. Check out Christian doctrine. You are woefully under and misinformed.

Revisionist history. The Islamic rule in Spain is littered with atrocities and battles to control the Christian population.
Islam also takes credit for the converts already educated in Western sciences. Islam only takes, it does not give anything. That is also stated in the Koran.

Both Jews and Christians practiced their freely in Spain under Islamic rule, if Muslims as barbaric as you said they could've forced all Christians to either convert or die....they ruled southern Europe for centuries....Europe was in the dark ages, they brought civilisation to it. But you too arrogant to admit history facts.

Education:

First ever university was built a woman in fez Morocco, ans after the moors built many other universities in And Alicia. (Cordoba, Granada,....)

Health:

Tulun, a surgeon named Al-Zahrawi, often called the “father of surgery,” wrote an illustrated encyclopedia that would ultimately be used as a guide to European surgeons for the next five hundred years. Al-Zarawhi’s surgical instruments, such as scalpels, bone saws, and forceps are still used by modern surgeons. Al-Zahrawi is also reportedly the first surgeon to perform a caesarean operation.

Another significant Muslim discovery came in the 13th century, when the Muslim medic Ibn Nafis described the pulmonary circulation almost three hundred years before William Harvey, the English physician who is believed by many Westerners to have “discovered” it. The technique of inoculation, or the introduction of an antigenic substance or vaccine into the body to induce immunity to a disease, is also said to have been designed by Muslims in Turkey and brought to Europe by the wife of England’s Turkish ambassador in 1724.

We gonna need days to list all the science discoveries and contributions of Muslims to better the lives of humans.

Ask any medical student engineer, astrologist, scientist, philosopher, mathematician, ect....go to South of Spain, Damascus, Baghdad, Cairo and see history for yourself and compare it to what Muslims achieved and whay were the Europeans doing at that time.

I only cite things like to those who think that they are superior to others....my moro we are all humans, and we have bad and good in every race and civilisation and we should co exist.

Here is some Islamic science.

Qur’an 18:83
“They ask you about Dhu’l-Qarnain [Alexander the Great]. Say, ‘I will cite some-
thing of his story. We gave him authority in the land and means of accomplishing his goals.
So he followed a path until he reached the setting place of the sun. He saw that it set in
black, muddy, hot water. Near it he found people.”

http://www.prophetofdoom.net/pdf/Prophet_of_Doom_Appendix_Quotes.pdf
On coexistence.

“In the Muslim community, the holy war is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the [Muslim] mission and [the obligation to] convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force. Therefore, caliphate and royal authority are united [in Islam], so that the person in charge can devote the available strength to both of them [i.e. religion and politics] at the same time. The other religious groups did not have a universal mission, and the holy war was not a religious duty for them, save only for purposes of defense... Islam is under obligation to gain power over other nations.” (Muqaddimah)

Table of Contents IslamicSupremacism.org - A Short Course Previous Page Next Page 28 More Classic Jurist Opinions on Islamic Supremacism & Jihad Chronologically, 635 - 1800 AD 3 are Sufi Notice these are not cherry picked examples of Extremists™, rather they are revered in the Islamic world as among the most authoritative “classic jurists” in history, as the last page was. Scan their qualifications now, look at what they said later - you will see they are all open ended instructions to Muslims concerning relations with all non-Muslims, affirming Koran 9:29 is good for all times and places, and not just historical descriptions of events. Hitler, “Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation.” Mein Kampf. If you are scanning this page, bold numbers are most noteworthy. 6) Abu Bakr (d. 635) - 1st successor to Muhammad, 1st of the “4 rightly guided caliphs”. He is quoted in Bukhari 2:23:483. He led the apostate wars, and is the namesake of the first Islamic State caliph in 2014 Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi. 7) Umar ibn al-Khattab (~580 - 644) - 2nd successor to Muhammad, 2nd of the “4 rightly guided caliphs.” Umar is also quoted in Bukhari. The famous Pact of Umar was a peace treaty between the Caliph Umar and the Christians of Syria., who promised to abide by a detailed list of humiliating concessions as 2nd class citizens, that became a model for other places under Islamic law. The origin of this document is uncertain, but the “classic jurists” have taken it very seriously and quote from it, as you already saw with Ghazali on the last page. Umar on IS&J. 8) `Abdullah ibn `Abbas (~618 - 687) - said to be a paternal cousin of Muhammad. He is quoted in Bukhari and other hadith. During his life he was called The Great Scholar of the Ummah. “... famous for his deep insight, profound learning, keen memory, high intelligence, and perceptiveness.” He narrated about 1600 traditions (hadith), and wrote a complete commentary on the Koran Tafsir Ibn Abbas. ibn Abbas on IS&J. 9) Abu Yusuf (Yaqub ibn Ibrahim al-Ansari) (731 - 798) - Famous Hanafi jurist, one of the most important disciples of Abu Hanifa (founder of the Hanafi school). Judge in Baghdad, and later Chief Justice (qadi al-qudat) under Abbasid caliph Harun al-Rashid. Abu Yusuf on IS&J. 10) Muhammad al-Shaybani (754 - 811) - Famous Hanafi jurist, another of the most important disciples of Abu Hanifa. Author of several authoritative works, particularly an important work on jihad, The Islamic Law of Nations. al-Shaybani on IS&J. 11) Imam Al-Shafi’i (767 - 820) - founder of the Shafi’i school, jurist, one of the “4 great imams”. Disciple of al-Shaybani and Imam Malik (founder of the Maliki school): Al-Shafi'i on IS&J. 12) Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari (~838 - 923) - Very famous Persian Islamic scholar, historian, and prolific writer, “one of the major mujtahid Imams”, memorized Koran at 7. Most famous for his massive commentary on the Qur'an Tafsir al-Tabari, an equally large History of Prophets and Kings, and an encyclopedia of jurisprudence entitled al-Basit. al-Tabari on (9:29). 13) Ibn Abi Zayd al-Qayrawani (922 - 996) - Maliki jurist, “He was the Imam of the Malikis in his time, and their model.” Wrote the very well known Treatise on Maliki Fiqh available free on line today, La Risala. al-Qayrawani on IS&J 14) Abu Al-Hasan Al-Mawardi (972-1058) - Shafi'i jurist, Chief Justice in Baghdad, sociologist, considered as one of the most famous thinkers in political science in the middle ages before ibn Khaldun. Wrote several important books on Islamic governance, some translated into various languages. Al-Mawardi on IS&J. 15) Abu Ishaq Elbiri (11th century) - well-known Muslim jurist and poet of his time. In 1066, shortly before an estimated 4,000 Jews were killed in Muslim ruled Spain during the Golden Age™, he wrote: “Do not consider that killing them is treachery. Nay, it would be treachery to leave them scoffing. Bostom: Jihad and Islamic Antisemitism More Abu Ishaq on IS&J. 16) Ibn Abdun (d. 1134) - Maliki jurist in Andalusia, gave these legal opinions regarding Jews and Christians in Seville around 1100AD, during the Golden Age in Spain. “He emphasized that the qadi, a jurist should be a man of prudence, compassion, impartiality, and learning...” Ibn Abdun. on IS. 17) al-Zamakshari (~1075 - 1144) - “Persian renown for his great scholarship of the Qur'an and his magnificent mastery of the Arabic language. Scholars of all ranks and schools of thought have tremendous regard for him... His monumental work al-Kashaf `an Haqa'iq al-Tanzil wa `Uyun al-Aqawil fi Wujuh al-Ta'wil, is celebrated for its genius and linguistic depth.” From his Tafsir (Koran commentary), about al-Zamakshari on IS&J. 18) Shaikh Burhanuddin Ali of Marghinan (1135 - 1196) - Hanafi jurist, from his famous manual of Sunni law the Hidaya, which is considered an authoritative guide in Central Asia, Afghanistan, and India. This is not a historical account, it is a timeless religious ruling by an influential Hanafi jurist. “...[jihad] is established as a divine ordinance, by the word of God, who said in the Quran, ‘Slay the infidels,‘ and also by saying of the Prophet, ‘War is permanently established until the Day of Judgment.’ When the Muslims enter the enemy’s country and besiege the cities or strongholds of the infidels, it is necessary to invite them to embrace the faith, because Ibn ‘Abbas relates of the Prophet that he never destroyed any without previously inviting them to embrace the faith... If the infidels, upon receiving the call, neither consent to it nor agree to pay capitation tax, it is then incumbent on the Muslims to call upon God for assistance, and to make war upon them...; the Prophet, moreover, commands us so to do.” More Hidaya on Jihad 19) Ibn Qudamah al-Maqdisi (1147-1223) - Hanbali jurist, noted Islamic scholar and author of many treatises of Hanbali jurisprudence and doctrine, including al-Mughni (the most widely known textbook of Hanbali fiqh). Ibn Kathir (listed below) said of him, "proficient, there was not found in his era nor before it by a long span of time, anyone possessing more fiqh – understanding of the religion – than him." al-Maqdisi on IS&J. 20) Yahya ibn Sharaf al-Nawawi (~1234-1278) - Shafi'i jurist, Syrian, author, wrote “numerous works of great importance” including Riyad-us Saliheen, and Minhaj al-Talibin, both classical shafi'i manuals of Islamic Law. al-Nawawi on IS&J. 21) 'Abdallah ibn 'Umar al-Baydawi (~1286-1316) - Shafi’i jurist, chief judge of Shiraz, Persian scholar, writer. In his important Qur’anic exegesis The Secrets of Revelation and The Secrets of Interpretation, he gives this ruling on Qur’an 5:82 & 2:61, about the Jews “humiliation and wretchedness”. 22) Abu Mansur Hasan bin Yusuf Al-Hilli (1250-1326) - Shi’ite jurist, “one of the greatest Muslim jurist and scholars of his time”, prolific writer. Al-Hilli on IS&J. 23) Ibn al-Qayyim al-Jawziyya (1292-1350) - Hanbali jurist, important disciple of Ibn Tamiyyah, eventually becoming his successor Imam. Qur'anic commentator, teacher, most notably of Ibn Kathir. He is often quoted by other Muslims in their rulings on jihad. For example here. 24) Ziauddin Barani (1285-1357) - Indian jurist, historian, political thinker, writer, companion of Sultan Muhammad b. Tughluq. He pleads for an all out struggle against Hinduism, and discusses whether jizya should be accepted from them, as it is from the People of the Book - Jews and Christians. Barani on IS&J. 25) Ahmad Ibn Naqib al-Misri (1302-1368AD) - compiled Reliance of the Traveller. On IS&J: “Jihad means to war against non-Muslims, and is etymologically derived from the word mujahada signifying warfare to establish the religion. And it is the lesser jihad. As for the greater jihad, it is spiritual warfare against the lower self...” (Reliance o9.0) That’s all it says about the “greater jihad”, then spends 11 pages explaining the “lesser jihad” like this:
 “The caliph makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians . . . until they become Muslim or pay the non-Muslim poll tax.” (o9.8) there’s a comment added from a Jordanian jurist: the caliph wages this war only “provided that he has first invited [Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians] to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya) . . . while remaining in their ancestral religions... Though, if there is no caliph, no permission is required [to fight jihad].” (o9.6) Certified by al-Azhar University in 1991  "conforms to the practice and faith of the orthodox Sunni community." Reliance of the Traveller quotes K-47:35 then says Muslims shouldn’t make truces in war when they are uppermost, only when weak, and never for more than 10 years (o9.16). Reliance of the Traveller on Christians, inspired by the 7th century Pact of Umar above: "... forbidden to ring church bells or display crosses, recite the Torah or Evangel aloud, or make public display of their funerals and feast days, and are forbidden to build new churches." (Reliance o.11.5,6,7) 26) Ibn Kathir (1323-1396) - Shafi’i jurist, Syrian disciple of Ibn Taymiyya, a ‘qadi’, hafiz (memorized the Koran), master scholar of history and the Qur’an. His 5,000 page commentary Tafsir Ibn Kathir is “famous all over the Muslim world and among Muslims in the Western world, and is one of the most widely used explanations of the Qu’ran today”. In it he gives this commentary on the Pact of Umar “treaty of peace”: “Paying Jizya Is a Sign of Kufr and Disgrace” “Allah said “until they pay the Jizya,” if they do not choose to embrace Islam, “with willing submission” in defeat and subservience, “and feel themselves subdued,” disgraced, humiliated and belittled. Therefore, Muslims are not allowed to honor the people of Dhimma or elevate them above Muslims, for they are miserable, disgraced, and humiliated. Muslim recorded from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet said, “Do not initiate the Salam to the Jews and the Christians, and if you meet them in a road, force them to its narrowest alley.” (Muslim B.26, #5389) This is why the leader of the faithful ‘Umar... demanded his well known conditions to be met by the Christians, these conditions that ensured their continued humiliation, degradation, and disgrace. The scholars of Hadith narrated from Abdur-Rahman... the terms of the treaty of peace he conducted with the Christians: This is a document to... ‘Umar the leader of the faithful, for the Christians of such and such a city. When you [Muslims] came to us we requested safety for ourselves, children, property and followers of our religion. We made a condition on ourselves that we will neither erect in our areas a monastery, church, or a sanctuary for a monk, nor restore any place of worship that needs restoration... We will respect Muslims, move from places we sit in if they choose to sit in them...” And so on, he finishes the rest of the Pact of Umar. (Tafsir Ibn Kathir (Riyadh, 2000), vol 4, pp. 404-407) More Ibn Kathir on IS&J. 27) Ibn Khaldun (1332-1406) - Maliki jurist, “The most important figure in the field of History and Sociology in Muslim History. He is one of those shining stars that contributed so richly to the understanding of Civilization." Professor John Esposito, Ph.D., taught a class Introduction to Islamic Civilization where a month was spent on part IV Ibn Khaldun on Islamic Civilization. From Khaldun’s famous Muqaddimah: An Introduction to History: “We do not think that we should blacken the pages of this book with discussion of their [Christian] dogmas of unbelief. In general, they are well known. All of them are unbelief. This is clearly stated in the noble Koran. To discuss or argue those things with them is not up to us. It is for them to choose between conversion to Islam, payment of the poll tax, or death.” (Vol 1, p. 473) Ibn Khaldun  Celebrated Supremacist “In the Muslim community, the holy war is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the [Muslim] mission and [the obligation to] convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force. Therefore, caliphate and royal authority are united [in Islam], so that the person in charge can devote the available strength to both of them [i.e. religion and politics] at the same time. The other religious groups did not have a universal mission, and the holy war was not a religious duty for them, save only for purposes of defense... Islam is under obligation to gain power over other nations.” (Muqaddimah) 28) Shaykh Muhammad b. Abd al-Karim al-Maghili (d.~1504) - From present day Algeria. Led a successful campaign to expel the city's Jews: “On the day of payment [the dhimmis] shall be assembled in a public place like the suq. They should be standing there waiting in the lowest and dirtiest place. The acting officials representing the Law shall ... adopt a threatening attitude so that it seems to them, as well as to the others, that our object is to degrade them by pretending to take their possessions. They will realize that we are doing them a favor (again) in accepting from them the jizya and letting them go free. Then they shall be dragged one by one ... for the exacting of payment. When paying, the dhimmi will receive a blow and will be thrust aside so that he will think that he has escaped the sword through this (insult). This is the way that the friends of the Lord, of the first and last generations, will act toward their infidel enemies, for might belongs to Allah, to His Apostle, and to the Believers.” (From Ahkam ahl al-Dhimma Faith Freedom International Quotes from Islamic jurists) 29) Imam Al-Suyuti (1445-1505) - Sufi, Hanafi jurist, famous Egyptian writer, multidisciplinary scholar. Memorized the Koran at 8. The mujtahid imam and foremost hadith master, historian, biographer, he authored works in virtually every Islamic science. Recognized as the most prolific author in the realm of Islamic literature, writing nearly 600 books and treatises, including co-compiling the most widespread condensed commentary of Qur'an in our time, Tafsir al-Jalalayn. Note his Sufi mysticism did not conflict with his views here on (9:29). 30) Fadl-Ullah bin Ruzbihan Isfahani (1456 - 1521) - Shafi’i jurist, said this in his Muslim Conduct of State: Suluk ul-Muluk, summarizing Shafi'i and Hanafi law. 31) Shaikh Abdul Quddus Gangoh (~1456~1537) - Sufi Indian poet, among the most prominent Sufi Shaykhs of the Chishti Silsila branch. Scholar K.S. Lal says: “Gangoh need be cited because he belonged to the Chishtia Silsila considered to be the most tolerant of all Sufi groups. He wrote letters to the Sultan Sikandar Lodi, Babur, and Humayun to re—invigorate the Sharia and reduce the Hindus to payers of land tax and jizya. To Babur he wrote: “No non—Muslim should be given any office or employment in the Diwan of Islam... Furthermore, in conformity with the principles of the Shariat they should be subjected to all types of indignities and humiliations. They should be made to pay the jizya...They should be disallowed from donning the dress of the Muslims... They should not be allowed to consider themselves the equal to the Muslims.” (K.S. Lal, The Legacy of Muslim Rule in India, New Delhi, Aditya Prakashan, 1992, p. 237, Quotes from Islamic jurists) 32) Muhammad Taqi al-Majlisi (~1616–1698) - authoritative Shi’ite jurist and prolific hadith collector, educated in Islamic philosophy and mysticism. Author of over 100 books in Arabic and Persian, including one of the most important hadith collections to Shia, Bihar al-Anwar. Had a very close relationship with at least 2 of the Safavid monarchs, Shah Sulayman (d.1694), who in 1686 appointed him the “Sheik of Islam” in Isfahan, and Shah Sultan Husayn (d.1713) who in 1694 changed his title to Mullabashi, he was the highest religious and executive authority during those times. During his last four years under Husayn he was the de facto ruler of Iran.“ (Andrew Bostom Legacy of Jihad) “Some say that they [the dhimmis] should not be informed of the amount of the jizya so that they should live continuously, in the course of the year, in a state of anxiety and agitation. [...] ... It is also incumbent upon Muslims that they should not accept from them victuals with which they had come into contact, such as distillates <and oils>, which cannot be purified. If something can be purified, such as clothes, if they are dry, they can be accepted, they are clean. But if they [the dhimmis] had come into contact with those cloths in moisture they should be rinsed with water after being obtained… It would also be better if the ruler of the Muslims would establish that all infidels could not move out of their homes on days when it rains or snows because they would make Muslims impure... Muslims should also be urged to show disrespect toward them [the dhimmis].” More al-Maqdisi on IS. (Excerpted from "Risala-ya Sawa'iq al-Yahud [The Treatise Lightning Bolts against the Jews]." English translation by V.B. Moreen in Die Welt des Islams 32 (1992): 187-193.) (Andrew Bostom Legacy of Jihad) 33) Shah Aladihlawi Wali-Allah (1703–1762) - Sufi, Hanafi jurist, Islamic scholar from Delhi. Memorized Koran at 7. “One of the greatest religious thinkers produced by Muslim India... endowed with saintly qualities.” Authored 23 books in Arabic, and 28 in Persian. In spite of his Sufi mysticism, he said: “It has become clear to my mind that the kingdom of heaven has predestined that kafirs should be reduced to a state of humiliation and treated with utter contempt.” More Wali-Allah on IS&J. Obama in his 2009 Cairo speech at al-Azhar said: “And when the first Muslim-American was recently elected to Congress, he took the oath to defend our Constitution using the same Holy Koran that one of our Founding Fathers – Thomas Jefferson – kept in his personal library.” That’s deceptive: Sidi Haji Abdrahaman (in 1786) - Maybe not a religious authority so I am not giving him a number, but he was Tripoli’s Ambassador to London giving his opinion on IS&J. Jefferson’s interest in the Koran had to do with getting to know the Muslim (Barbary) pirates before they went to war. Christopher Hitchens explains: “...in 1786, the new United States found that it was having to deal ... with ... the Muslim religion. The Barbary states of North Africa ... were using the ports of today's Algeria, Libya, and Tunisia to wage a war of piracy and enslavement against all shipping that passed through the Strait of Gibraltar. Thousands of vessels were taken, and more than a million Europeans and Americans sold into slavery. The fledgling United States of America was in an especially difficult position, having forfeited the protection of the British Royal Navy. Under this pressure, Congress gave assent to the Treaty of Tripoli... which stated roundly that "the government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion, as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen." ... Jefferson and John Adams ... went to call on Tripoli's envoy to London, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman. They asked him by what right he extorted money and took slaves in this way. As Jefferson later reported to Congress: “The ambassador answered us that [the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.” C. Hitchens - Jefferson's Koran Medieval historian Raymond Ibrahim, from The Historical Reality of the Muslim Conquests: “Because it is now almost axiomatic for American school textbooks to whitewash all things Islamic (see here for example), it may be useful to examine one of those aspects that are regularly distorted: the Muslim conquests. Few events of history are so well documented and attested to as are these conquests, which commenced soon after the death of the Muslim prophet Muhammad (632) and tapered off circa 750. Large swathes of the Old World—from the India in the east, to Spain in the west—were conquered and consolidated by the sword of Islam during this time. By the standards of history, the reality of these conquests is unassailable, for history proper concerns itself with primary sources; and the Islamic conquests are thoroughly documented. More importantly, the overwhelming majority of primary source materials we rely on do not come from non-Muslims, who might be accused of bias. Rather, the foremost historians bequeathing to posterity thousands of pages of source materials documenting the Islamic conquests were not only Muslims themselves; they were—and still are—regarded by today’s Muslims as pious and trustworthy scholars (generically, the ulema).“ Forward to Consequences of Rejecting Reason

Last few hundreds of years...who went around killing millions upon millions and force Christianity on indigenous people, make them slaves and steal their resources?
Who started WW1 and WW2? Vietnam? Korean war? Iraq invasion? Regime changes...sells arms and bombs to hostile regimes and terrorist groups? MUslims?

Those wars had 0 to do with Christianity. Check out Christian doctrine. You are woefully under and misinformed.

Sir I wont waste my time answering you anymore if you gonna deny historical facts....for you to say Christianity or Christians had nothing to do with any of the atrocities that too place in the last 300 to 400 years, is almost criminal.

And by the way i have a huge respect for christianity as a Muslim otherwise i can't be one. but no the christianity that was tailored to fit the imperialistic agenda of the Church and the ruling families in Europe and elsewhere.

c'mon sunni-------you are CLAIMING A "HUGE RESPECT FOR CHRISTIANS" too? -----you forgot??-----
Christians are "PERVERSE LIARS---ENEMEEEEES OF ISLAAAAAM"

 

[irosie91]

Both Jews and Christians practiced their freely in Spain under Islamic rule, if Muslims as barbaric as you said they could've forced all Christians to either convert or die....they ruled southern Europe for centuries....Europe was in the dark ages, they brought civilisation to it. But you too arrogant to admit history facts.

Education:

First ever university was built a woman in fez Morocco, ans after the moors built many other universities in And Alicia. (Cordoba, Granada,....)

Health:

Tulun, a surgeon named Al-Zahrawi, often called the “father of surgery,” wrote an illustrated encyclopedia that would ultimately be used as a guide to European surgeons for the next five hundred years. Al-Zarawhi’s surgical instruments, such as scalpels, bone saws, and forceps are still used by modern surgeons. Al-Zahrawi is also reportedly the first surgeon to perform a caesarean operation.

Another significant Muslim discovery came in the 13th century, when the Muslim medic Ibn Nafis described the pulmonary circulation almost three hundred years before William Harvey, the English physician who is believed by many Westerners to have “discovered” it. The technique of inoculation, or the introduction of an antigenic substance or vaccine into the body to induce immunity to a disease, is also said to have been designed by Muslims in Turkey and brought to Europe by the wife of England’s Turkish ambassador in 1724.

We gonna need days to list all the science discoveries and contributions of Muslims to better the lives of humans.

Ask any medical student engineer, astrologist, scientist, philosopher, mathematician, ect....go to South of Spain, Damascus, Baghdad, Cairo and see history for yourself and compare it to what Muslims achieved and whay were the Europeans doing at that time.

I only cite things like to those who think that they are superior to others....my moro we are all humans, and we have bad and good in every race and civilisation and we should co exist.

Here is some Islamic science.

Qur’an 18:83
“They ask you about Dhu’l-Qarnain [Alexander the Great]. Say, ‘I will cite some-
thing of his story. We gave him authority in the land and means of accomplishing his goals.
So he followed a path until he reached the setting place of the sun. He saw that it set in
black, muddy, hot water. Near it he found people.”

http://www.prophetofdoom.net/pdf/Prophet_of_Doom_Appendix_Quotes.pdf
On coexistence.

“In the Muslim community, the holy war is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the [Muslim] mission and [the obligation to] convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force. Therefore, caliphate and royal authority are united [in Islam], so that the person in charge can devote the available strength to both of them [i.e. religion and politics] at the same time. The other religious groups did not have a universal mission, and the holy war was not a religious duty for them, save only for purposes of defense... Islam is under obligation to gain power over other nations.” (Muqaddimah)

Table of Contents IslamicSupremacism.org - A Short Course Previous Page Next Page 28 More Classic Jurist Opinions on Islamic Supremacism & Jihad Chronologically, 635 - 1800 AD 3 are Sufi Notice these are not cherry picked examples of Extremists™, rather they are revered in the Islamic world as among the most authoritative “classic jurists” in history, as the last page was. Scan their qualifications now, look at what they said later - you will see they are all open ended instructions to Muslims concerning relations with all non-Muslims, affirming Koran 9:29 is good for all times and places, and not just historical descriptions of events. Hitler, “Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation.” Mein Kampf. If you are scanning this page, bold numbers are most noteworthy. 6) Abu Bakr (d. 635) - 1st successor to Muhammad, 1st of the “4 rightly guided caliphs”. He is quoted in Bukhari 2:23:483. He led the apostate wars, and is the namesake of the first Islamic State caliph in 2014 Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi. 7) Umar ibn al-Khattab (~580 - 644) - 2nd successor to Muhammad, 2nd of the “4 rightly guided caliphs.” Umar is also quoted in Bukhari. The famous Pact of Umar was a peace treaty between the Caliph Umar and the Christians of Syria., who promised to abide by a detailed list of humiliating concessions as 2nd class citizens, that became a model for other places under Islamic law. The origin of this document is uncertain, but the “classic jurists” have taken it very seriously and quote from it, as you already saw with Ghazali on the last page. Umar on IS&J. 8) `Abdullah ibn `Abbas (~618 - 687) - said to be a paternal cousin of Muhammad. He is quoted in Bukhari and other hadith. During his life he was called The Great Scholar of the Ummah. “... famous for his deep insight, profound learning, keen memory, high intelligence, and perceptiveness.” He narrated about 1600 traditions (hadith), and wrote a complete commentary on the Koran Tafsir Ibn Abbas. ibn Abbas on IS&J. 9) Abu Yusuf (Yaqub ibn Ibrahim al-Ansari) (731 - 798) - Famous Hanafi jurist, one of the most important disciples of Abu Hanifa (founder of the Hanafi school). Judge in Baghdad, and later Chief Justice (qadi al-qudat) under Abbasid caliph Harun al-Rashid. Abu Yusuf on IS&J. 10) Muhammad al-Shaybani (754 - 811) - Famous Hanafi jurist, another of the most important disciples of Abu Hanifa. Author of several authoritative works, particularly an important work on jihad, The Islamic Law of Nations. al-Shaybani on IS&J. 11) Imam Al-Shafi’i (767 - 820) - founder of the Shafi’i school, jurist, one of the “4 great imams”. Disciple of al-Shaybani and Imam Malik (founder of the Maliki school): Al-Shafi'i on IS&J. 12) Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari (~838 - 923) - Very famous Persian Islamic scholar, historian, and prolific writer, “one of the major mujtahid Imams”, memorized Koran at 7. Most famous for his massive commentary on the Qur'an Tafsir al-Tabari, an equally large History of Prophets and Kings, and an encyclopedia of jurisprudence entitled al-Basit. al-Tabari on (9:29). 13) Ibn Abi Zayd al-Qayrawani (922 - 996) - Maliki jurist, “He was the Imam of the Malikis in his time, and their model.” Wrote the very well known Treatise on Maliki Fiqh available free on line today, La Risala. al-Qayrawani on IS&J 14) Abu Al-Hasan Al-Mawardi (972-1058) - Shafi'i jurist, Chief Justice in Baghdad, sociologist, considered as one of the most famous thinkers in political science in the middle ages before ibn Khaldun. Wrote several important books on Islamic governance, some translated into various languages. Al-Mawardi on IS&J. 15) Abu Ishaq Elbiri (11th century) - well-known Muslim jurist and poet of his time. In 1066, shortly before an estimated 4,000 Jews were killed in Muslim ruled Spain during the Golden Age™, he wrote: “Do not consider that killing them is treachery. Nay, it would be treachery to leave them scoffing. Bostom: Jihad and Islamic Antisemitism More Abu Ishaq on IS&J. 16) Ibn Abdun (d. 1134) - Maliki jurist in Andalusia, gave these legal opinions regarding Jews and Christians in Seville around 1100AD, during the Golden Age in Spain. “He emphasized that the qadi, a jurist should be a man of prudence, compassion, impartiality, and learning...” Ibn Abdun. on IS. 17) al-Zamakshari (~1075 - 1144) - “Persian renown for his great scholarship of the Qur'an and his magnificent mastery of the Arabic language. Scholars of all ranks and schools of thought have tremendous regard for him... His monumental work al-Kashaf `an Haqa'iq al-Tanzil wa `Uyun al-Aqawil fi Wujuh al-Ta'wil, is celebrated for its genius and linguistic depth.” From his Tafsir (Koran commentary), about al-Zamakshari on IS&J. 18) Shaikh Burhanuddin Ali of Marghinan (1135 - 1196) - Hanafi jurist, from his famous manual of Sunni law the Hidaya, which is considered an authoritative guide in Central Asia, Afghanistan, and India. This is not a historical account, it is a timeless religious ruling by an influential Hanafi jurist. “...[jihad] is established as a divine ordinance, by the word of God, who said in the Quran, ‘Slay the infidels,‘ and also by saying of the Prophet, ‘War is permanently established until the Day of Judgment.’ When the Muslims enter the enemy’s country and besiege the cities or strongholds of the infidels, it is necessary to invite them to embrace the faith, because Ibn ‘Abbas relates of the Prophet that he never destroyed any without previously inviting them to embrace the faith... If the infidels, upon receiving the call, neither consent to it nor agree to pay capitation tax, it is then incumbent on the Muslims to call upon God for assistance, and to make war upon them...; the Prophet, moreover, commands us so to do.” More Hidaya on Jihad 19) Ibn Qudamah al-Maqdisi (1147-1223) - Hanbali jurist, noted Islamic scholar and author of many treatises of Hanbali jurisprudence and doctrine, including al-Mughni (the most widely known textbook of Hanbali fiqh). Ibn Kathir (listed below) said of him, "proficient, there was not found in his era nor before it by a long span of time, anyone possessing more fiqh – understanding of the religion – than him." al-Maqdisi on IS&J. 20) Yahya ibn Sharaf al-Nawawi (~1234-1278) - Shafi'i jurist, Syrian, author, wrote “numerous works of great importance” including Riyad-us Saliheen, and Minhaj al-Talibin, both classical shafi'i manuals of Islamic Law. al-Nawawi on IS&J. 21) 'Abdallah ibn 'Umar al-Baydawi (~1286-1316) - Shafi’i jurist, chief judge of Shiraz, Persian scholar, writer. In his important Qur’anic exegesis The Secrets of Revelation and The Secrets of Interpretation, he gives this ruling on Qur’an 5:82 & 2:61, about the Jews “humiliation and wretchedness”. 22) Abu Mansur Hasan bin Yusuf Al-Hilli (1250-1326) - Shi’ite jurist, “one of the greatest Muslim jurist and scholars of his time”, prolific writer. Al-Hilli on IS&J. 23) Ibn al-Qayyim al-Jawziyya (1292-1350) - Hanbali jurist, important disciple of Ibn Tamiyyah, eventually becoming his successor Imam. Qur'anic commentator, teacher, most notably of Ibn Kathir. He is often quoted by other Muslims in their rulings on jihad. For example here. 24) Ziauddin Barani (1285-1357) - Indian jurist, historian, political thinker, writer, companion of Sultan Muhammad b. Tughluq. He pleads for an all out struggle against Hinduism, and discusses whether jizya should be accepted from them, as it is from the People of the Book - Jews and Christians. Barani on IS&J. 25) Ahmad Ibn Naqib al-Misri (1302-1368AD) - compiled Reliance of the Traveller. On IS&J: “Jihad means to war against non-Muslims, and is etymologically derived from the word mujahada signifying warfare to establish the religion. And it is the lesser jihad. As for the greater jihad, it is spiritual warfare against the lower self...” (Reliance o9.0) That’s all it says about the “greater jihad”, then spends 11 pages explaining the “lesser jihad” like this:
 “The caliph makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians . . . until they become Muslim or pay the non-Muslim poll tax.” (o9.8) there’s a comment added from a Jordanian jurist: the caliph wages this war only “provided that he has first invited [Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians] to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya) . . . while remaining in their ancestral religions... Though, if there is no caliph, no permission is required [to fight jihad].” (o9.6) Certified by al-Azhar University in 1991  "conforms to the practice and faith of the orthodox Sunni community." Reliance of the Traveller quotes K-47:35 then says Muslims shouldn’t make truces in war when they are uppermost, only when weak, and never for more than 10 years (o9.16). Reliance of the Traveller on Christians, inspired by the 7th century Pact of Umar above: "... forbidden to ring church bells or display crosses, recite the Torah or Evangel aloud, or make public display of their funerals and feast days, and are forbidden to build new churches." (Reliance o.11.5,6,7) 26) Ibn Kathir (1323-1396) - Shafi’i jurist, Syrian disciple of Ibn Taymiyya, a ‘qadi’, hafiz (memorized the Koran), master scholar of history and the Qur’an. His 5,000 page commentary Tafsir Ibn Kathir is “famous all over the Muslim world and among Muslims in the Western world, and is one of the most widely used explanations of the Qu’ran today”. In it he gives this commentary on the Pact of Umar “treaty of peace”: “Paying Jizya Is a Sign of Kufr and Disgrace” “Allah said “until they pay the Jizya,” if they do not choose to embrace Islam, “with willing submission” in defeat and subservience, “and feel themselves subdued,” disgraced, humiliated and belittled. Therefore, Muslims are not allowed to honor the people of Dhimma or elevate them above Muslims, for they are miserable, disgraced, and humiliated. Muslim recorded from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet said, “Do not initiate the Salam to the Jews and the Christians, and if you meet them in a road, force them to its narrowest alley.” (Muslim B.26, #5389) This is why the leader of the faithful ‘Umar... demanded his well known conditions to be met by the Christians, these conditions that ensured their continued humiliation, degradation, and disgrace. The scholars of Hadith narrated from Abdur-Rahman... the terms of the treaty of peace he conducted with the Christians: This is a document to... ‘Umar the leader of the faithful, for the Christians of such and such a city. When you [Muslims] came to us we requested safety for ourselves, children, property and followers of our religion. We made a condition on ourselves that we will neither erect in our areas a monastery, church, or a sanctuary for a monk, nor restore any place of worship that needs restoration... We will respect Muslims, move from places we sit in if they choose to sit in them...” And so on, he finishes the rest of the Pact of Umar. (Tafsir Ibn Kathir (Riyadh, 2000), vol 4, pp. 404-407) More Ibn Kathir on IS&J. 27) Ibn Khaldun (1332-1406) - Maliki jurist, “The most important figure in the field of History and Sociology in Muslim History. He is one of those shining stars that contributed so richly to the understanding of Civilization." Professor John Esposito, Ph.D., taught a class Introduction to Islamic Civilization where a month was spent on part IV Ibn Khaldun on Islamic Civilization. From Khaldun’s famous Muqaddimah: An Introduction to History: “We do not think that we should blacken the pages of this book with discussion of their [Christian] dogmas of unbelief. In general, they are well known. All of them are unbelief. This is clearly stated in the noble Koran. To discuss or argue those things with them is not up to us. It is for them to choose between conversion to Islam, payment of the poll tax, or death.” (Vol 1, p. 473) Ibn Khaldun  Celebrated Supremacist “In the Muslim community, the holy war is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the [Muslim] mission and [the obligation to] convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force. Therefore, caliphate and royal authority are united [in Islam], so that the person in charge can devote the available strength to both of them [i.e. religion and politics] at the same time. The other religious groups did not have a universal mission, and the holy war was not a religious duty for them, save only for purposes of defense... Islam is under obligation to gain power over other nations.” (Muqaddimah) 28) Shaykh Muhammad b. Abd al-Karim al-Maghili (d.~1504) - From present day Algeria. Led a successful campaign to expel the city's Jews: “On the day of payment [the dhimmis] shall be assembled in a public place like the suq. They should be standing there waiting in the lowest and dirtiest place. The acting officials representing the Law shall ... adopt a threatening attitude so that it seems to them, as well as to the others, that our object is to degrade them by pretending to take their possessions. They will realize that we are doing them a favor (again) in accepting from them the jizya and letting them go free. Then they shall be dragged one by one ... for the exacting of payment. When paying, the dhimmi will receive a blow and will be thrust aside so that he will think that he has escaped the sword through this (insult). This is the way that the friends of the Lord, of the first and last generations, will act toward their infidel enemies, for might belongs to Allah, to His Apostle, and to the Believers.” (From Ahkam ahl al-Dhimma Faith Freedom International Quotes from Islamic jurists) 29) Imam Al-Suyuti (1445-1505) - Sufi, Hanafi jurist, famous Egyptian writer, multidisciplinary scholar. Memorized the Koran at 8. The mujtahid imam and foremost hadith master, historian, biographer, he authored works in virtually every Islamic science. Recognized as the most prolific author in the realm of Islamic literature, writing nearly 600 books and treatises, including co-compiling the most widespread condensed commentary of Qur'an in our time, Tafsir al-Jalalayn. Note his Sufi mysticism did not conflict with his views here on (9:29). 30) Fadl-Ullah bin Ruzbihan Isfahani (1456 - 1521) - Shafi’i jurist, said this in his Muslim Conduct of State: Suluk ul-Muluk, summarizing Shafi'i and Hanafi law. 31) Shaikh Abdul Quddus Gangoh (~1456~1537) - Sufi Indian poet, among the most prominent Sufi Shaykhs of the Chishti Silsila branch. Scholar K.S. Lal says: “Gangoh need be cited because he belonged to the Chishtia Silsila considered to be the most tolerant of all Sufi groups. He wrote letters to the Sultan Sikandar Lodi, Babur, and Humayun to re—invigorate the Sharia and reduce the Hindus to payers of land tax and jizya. To Babur he wrote: “No non—Muslim should be given any office or employment in the Diwan of Islam... Furthermore, in conformity with the principles of the Shariat they should be subjected to all types of indignities and humiliations. They should be made to pay the jizya...They should be disallowed from donning the dress of the Muslims... They should not be allowed to consider themselves the equal to the Muslims.” (K.S. Lal, The Legacy of Muslim Rule in India, New Delhi, Aditya Prakashan, 1992, p. 237, Quotes from Islamic jurists) 32) Muhammad Taqi al-Majlisi (~1616–1698) - authoritative Shi’ite jurist and prolific hadith collector, educated in Islamic philosophy and mysticism. Author of over 100 books in Arabic and Persian, including one of the most important hadith collections to Shia, Bihar al-Anwar. Had a very close relationship with at least 2 of the Safavid monarchs, Shah Sulayman (d.1694), who in 1686 appointed him the “Sheik of Islam” in Isfahan, and Shah Sultan Husayn (d.1713) who in 1694 changed his title to Mullabashi, he was the highest religious and executive authority during those times. During his last four years under Husayn he was the de facto ruler of Iran.“ (Andrew Bostom Legacy of Jihad) “Some say that they [the dhimmis] should not be informed of the amount of the jizya so that they should live continuously, in the course of the year, in a state of anxiety and agitation. [...] ... It is also incumbent upon Muslims that they should not accept from them victuals with which they had come into contact, such as distillates <and oils>, which cannot be purified. If something can be purified, such as clothes, if they are dry, they can be accepted, they are clean. But if they [the dhimmis] had come into contact with those cloths in moisture they should be rinsed with water after being obtained… It would also be better if the ruler of the Muslims would establish that all infidels could not move out of their homes on days when it rains or snows because they would make Muslims impure... Muslims should also be urged to show disrespect toward them [the dhimmis].” More al-Maqdisi on IS. (Excerpted from "Risala-ya Sawa'iq al-Yahud [The Treatise Lightning Bolts against the Jews]." English translation by V.B. Moreen in Die Welt des Islams 32 (1992): 187-193.) (Andrew Bostom Legacy of Jihad) 33) Shah Aladihlawi Wali-Allah (1703–1762) - Sufi, Hanafi jurist, Islamic scholar from Delhi. Memorized Koran at 7. “One of the greatest religious thinkers produced by Muslim India... endowed with saintly qualities.” Authored 23 books in Arabic, and 28 in Persian. In spite of his Sufi mysticism, he said: “It has become clear to my mind that the kingdom of heaven has predestined that kafirs should be reduced to a state of humiliation and treated with utter contempt.” More Wali-Allah on IS&J. Obama in his 2009 Cairo speech at al-Azhar said: “And when the first Muslim-American was recently elected to Congress, he took the oath to defend our Constitution using the same Holy Koran that one of our Founding Fathers – Thomas Jefferson – kept in his personal library.” That’s deceptive: Sidi Haji Abdrahaman (in 1786) - Maybe not a religious authority so I am not giving him a number, but he was Tripoli’s Ambassador to London giving his opinion on IS&J. Jefferson’s interest in the Koran had to do with getting to know the Muslim (Barbary) pirates before they went to war. Christopher Hitchens explains: “...in 1786, the new United States found that it was having to deal ... with ... the Muslim religion. The Barbary states of North Africa ... were using the ports of today's Algeria, Libya, and Tunisia to wage a war of piracy and enslavement against all shipping that passed through the Strait of Gibraltar. Thousands of vessels were taken, and more than a million Europeans and Americans sold into slavery. The fledgling United States of America was in an especially difficult position, having forfeited the protection of the British Royal Navy. Under this pressure, Congress gave assent to the Treaty of Tripoli... which stated roundly that "the government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion, as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen." ... Jefferson and John Adams ... went to call on Tripoli's envoy to London, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman. They asked him by what right he extorted money and took slaves in this way. As Jefferson later reported to Congress: “The ambassador answered us that [the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.” C. Hitchens - Jefferson's Koran Medieval historian Raymond Ibrahim, from The Historical Reality of the Muslim Conquests: “Because it is now almost axiomatic for American school textbooks to whitewash all things Islamic (see here for example), it may be useful to examine one of those aspects that are regularly distorted: the Muslim conquests. Few events of history are so well documented and attested to as are these conquests, which commenced soon after the death of the Muslim prophet Muhammad (632) and tapered off circa 750. Large swathes of the Old World—from the India in the east, to Spain in the west—were conquered and consolidated by the sword of Islam during this time. By the standards of history, the reality of these conquests is unassailable, for history proper concerns itself with primary sources; and the Islamic conquests are thoroughly documented. More importantly, the overwhelming majority of primary source materials we rely on do not come from non-Muslims, who might be accused of bias. Rather, the foremost historians bequeathing to posterity thousands of pages of source materials documenting the Islamic conquests were not only Muslims themselves; they were—and still are—regarded by today’s Muslims as pious and trustworthy scholars (generically, the ulema).“ Forward to Consequences of Rejecting Reason

Last few hundreds of years...who went around killing millions upon millions and force Christianity on indigenous people, make them slaves and steal their resources?
Who started WW1 and WW2? Vietnam? Korean war? Iraq invasion? Regime changes...sells arms and bombs to hostile regimes and terrorist groups? MUslims?

Where have you been in the last 100 years------who committed genocide upon the Christians of
Nigeria and Uganda? Who committed genocide upon the Christians of both ARMENIA AND
TURKEY-----who did east Pakistan ? ------learn a bit of history------you guys were ADOLF's
faves------of course he did reject Christianity but he did not reject islam. Who is MURDERING so
HAPPILY TODAY in the name of the rapist of mecca?. Did you ever hear of GENGHIS KHAN-----
he LOVED ISLAM for what it did for him---------build a following that murdered in the HUNDREDS OF
MILLIONS (lots of muslims reject the idea that he was actually a PIOUS muslim------only his
minions were--------genocide upon the Zoroastrians too) Feel free to ask questions----my very own hubby
was born in a shariah shit hole in the status of DHIMMI------(as were the Christians and jews of muslim spain)-------feel free to ask questions about your history. You may know very little about it------if you were
born in a shariah shit hole------chances are that your recent ancestors were illiterate

Point by point:

Genocide in Nigeria by Muslims? in what text book is this? if you gonna call what Boko Haram terrorist acts as a genocide than what will the US wars would be called?
and In Nigeria christians and Muslims leave side by side, they even elected a Muslim president and Christians are the majority....surprising isnt it?

Armenia and Turkey tha'ts a problem between 2 nations and not two religions.

Timothy Mcveigh and others don't represent Christianity and same goes for the Bin laden and his likes. Hard to understand?

I by now know that your hubby lived in a Muslim country? you know how? You said a zillion times, we get it he was tortured, killed but somehomw now he's alive and sound.

Muslims want to live or do live by sharia, a hateful and barbaric system. And as a bonus, we hate them for it. Therefore, they're a hate group.

muslims have a big problem with shariah. They cannot change or modify it. It is a dilemma---they end up
JUSTIFYING it no matter how much it stinks. I consider their biggest problem is the worship of muhummad-------he is considered BETTER THAN DIVINE-------no matter what he did -----his actions must
be considered "HOLY" and "PERFECT" -----the man was a thief, rapist, slave trader and murderer.

Issa----hubby was born in a shariah shit hole-----he is alive today because his parents made it out-------
some of his sibs and other members of the escaping party did not. There were some survivors of the
ARMENIAN genocide too-------it was not a war---it was genocide. There are even a few Zoroastrians left in the world------mostly in Mumbai. Today people are escaping Syria------even christians

 

[Sunni Man]

Irosie's expletive laden psycho rants are always amusing to read.

For the most part they are incoherent, and provide very little information on the subject matter at hand.

I doubt anyone takes her comical posts serious. .....

 

[Issa]

Last few hundreds of years...who went around killing millions upon millions and force Christianity on indigenous people, make them slaves and steal their resources?
Who started WW1 and WW2? Vietnam? Korean war? Iraq invasion? Regime changes...sells arms and bombs to hostile regimes and terrorist groups? MUslims?

Those wars had 0 to do with Christianity. Check out Christian doctrine. You are woefully under and misinformed.

Last few hundreds of years...who went around killing millions upon millions and force Christianity on indigenous people, make them slaves and steal their resources?
Who started WW1 and WW2? Vietnam? Korean war? Iraq invasion? Regime changes...sells arms and bombs to hostile regimes and terrorist groups? MUslims?

Those wars had 0 to do with Christianity. Check out Christian doctrine. You are woefully under and misinformed.

Sir I wont waste my time answering you anymore if you gonna deny historical facts....for you to say Christianity or Christians had nothing to do with any of the atrocities that too place in the last 300 to 400 years, is almost criminal.

And by the way i have a huge respect for christianity as a Muslim otherwise i can't be one. but no the christianity that was tailored to fit the imperialistic agenda of the Church and the ruling families in Europe and elsewhere.

Issa-----do you have "respect" for the fact that islam was TAILORED to justify the genocide of hundreds of
millions and TO DATE has never repudiated THE VILE STINK of dhimmia?-----or the various other perverse and disgusting provisions of vile SHARIAH?. In fact------Islamic scholars do not even repudiate
the institution of slavery. You, yourself----justified the FILTH of Jizya as some kind of "tax for the common good"---------BULLSHIT (try to keep in mind-----my hubby's relatives paid that Jizya------it was NOT
USED to benefit their community---) Lots of Christians take exception to the historical reality of atrocities
committed BY CHRISTIANS--------stating that the actions were not consistent with Christianity-----whereas
muslims TAKE PRIDE in slut who tie bombs to their whorish asses for the purpose of murdering children-----
----an example is the adorations of the filthy bitch WAFA IDRIS------there are at least three schools for girls
named for that DIRTY WHORE--------as if the pile of dog shit is a SAINT for MURDERING FOR ALLAH

If Muslims were as bad as you say....what did stop them from just killing every living non muslim in the parts they ruled for centuries? why would the Jews run to Muslim countries when they were executed and kicked out of Europe? Why would still be christians, Jews, Chruches and Synagogues and lot of muslim Countries? How your husband wasnt excuted for not being Muslim living in a Muslim country?

Because Muslims got there asses kicked and started to behave themselves.

Muslims were the US of the old day and they controlled much of the old world....nothing wouldve stopped them from cleansing other religions...but didn't.

 

[Issa]

Irosie's expletive laden psycho rants are always amusing to read.

For the most part they are incoherent, and provide very little information on the subject matter at hand.

I doubt anyone takes her comical posts serious. .....

I agree, I wasted too much time with her.

 

[Taz]

Irosie's expletive laden psycho rants are always amusing to read.

For the most part they are incoherent, and provide very little information on the subject matter at hand.

I doubt anyone takes her comical posts serious. .....

You seem to.

 

[irosie91]

Irosie's expletive laden psycho rants are always amusing to read.

For the most part they are incoherent, and provide very little information on the subject matter at hand.

I doubt anyone takes her comical posts serious. .....

what parts of my posts make you laugh, sunni dear? ------The subject at hand in this thread is
"islam as a hate group" I found your claim of IMMENSE RESPECT FOR CHRISTIANITY----
hilarious. Since I am a jew-----muslims I encountered, once I told them I am a jew------
VERY EAGERLY told me what they "thought" (make that what they had been told to
think) of Christianity.

 

[Taz]

Those wars had 0 to do with Christianity. Check out Christian doctrine. You are woefully under and misinformed.

Those wars had 0 to do with Christianity. Check out Christian doctrine. You are woefully under and misinformed.

Sir I wont waste my time answering you anymore if you gonna deny historical facts....for you to say Christianity or Christians had nothing to do with any of the atrocities that too place in the last 300 to 400 years, is almost criminal.

And by the way i have a huge respect for christianity as a Muslim otherwise i can't be one. but no the christianity that was tailored to fit the imperialistic agenda of the Church and the ruling families in Europe and elsewhere.

Issa-----do you have "respect" for the fact that islam was TAILORED to justify the genocide of hundreds of
millions and TO DATE has never repudiated THE VILE STINK of dhimmia?-----or the various other perverse and disgusting provisions of vile SHARIAH?. In fact------Islamic scholars do not even repudiate
the institution of slavery. You, yourself----justified the FILTH of Jizya as some kind of "tax for the common good"---------BULLSHIT (try to keep in mind-----my hubby's relatives paid that Jizya------it was NOT
USED to benefit their community---) Lots of Christians take exception to the historical reality of atrocities
committed BY CHRISTIANS--------stating that the actions were not consistent with Christianity-----whereas
muslims TAKE PRIDE in slut who tie bombs to their whorish asses for the purpose of murdering children-----
----an example is the adorations of the filthy bitch WAFA IDRIS------there are at least three schools for girls
named for that DIRTY WHORE--------as if the pile of dog shit is a SAINT for MURDERING FOR ALLAH

If Muslims were as bad as you say....what did stop them from just killing every living non muslim in the parts they ruled for centuries? why would the Jews run to Muslim countries when they were executed and kicked out of Europe? Why would still be christians, Jews, Chruches and Synagogues and lot of muslim Countries? How your husband wasnt excuted for not being Muslim living in a Muslim country?

Because Muslims got there asses kicked and started to behave themselves.

Muslims were the US of the old day and they controlled much of the old world....nothing wouldve stopped them from cleansing other religions...but didn't.

Because Muslims got there asses kicked and started to behave themselves.

 

[Lastamender]

Those wars had 0 to do with Christianity. Check out Christian doctrine. You are woefully under and misinformed.

Those wars had 0 to do with Christianity. Check out Christian doctrine. You are woefully under and misinformed.

Sir I wont waste my time answering you anymore if you gonna deny historical facts....for you to say Christianity or Christians had nothing to do with any of the atrocities that too place in the last 300 to 400 years, is almost criminal.

And by the way i have a huge respect for christianity as a Muslim otherwise i can't be one. but no the christianity that was tailored to fit the imperialistic agenda of the Church and the ruling families in Europe and elsewhere.

Issa-----do you have "respect" for the fact that islam was TAILORED to justify the genocide of hundreds of
millions and TO DATE has never repudiated THE VILE STINK of dhimmia?-----or the various other perverse and disgusting provisions of vile SHARIAH?. In fact------Islamic scholars do not even repudiate
the institution of slavery. You, yourself----justified the FILTH of Jizya as some kind of "tax for the common good"---------BULLSHIT (try to keep in mind-----my hubby's relatives paid that Jizya------it was NOT
USED to benefit their community---) Lots of Christians take exception to the historical reality of atrocities
committed BY CHRISTIANS--------stating that the actions were not consistent with Christianity-----whereas
muslims TAKE PRIDE in slut who tie bombs to their whorish asses for the purpose of murdering children-----
----an example is the adorations of the filthy bitch WAFA IDRIS------there are at least three schools for girls
named for that DIRTY WHORE--------as if the pile of dog shit is a SAINT for MURDERING FOR ALLAH

If Muslims were as bad as you say....what did stop them from just killing every living non muslim in the parts they ruled for centuries? why would the Jews run to Muslim countries when they were executed and kicked out of Europe? Why would still be christians, Jews, Chruches and Synagogues and lot of muslim Countries? How your husband wasnt excuted for not being Muslim living in a Muslim country?

Because Muslims got there asses kicked and started to behave themselves.

Muslims were the US of the old day and they controlled much of the old world....nothing wouldve stopped them from cleansing other religions...but didn't.

They sure did it is an eternal obligation. That they have not finished the job is proven daily.

 

[Lastamender]

Revisionist history. The Islamic rule in Spain is littered with atrocities and battles to control the Christian population.
Islam also takes credit for the converts already educated in Western sciences. Islam only takes, it does not give anything. That is also stated in the Koran.

Both Jews and Christians practiced their freely in Spain under Islamic rule, if Muslims as barbaric as you said they could've forced all Christians to either convert or die....they ruled southern Europe for centuries....Europe was in the dark ages, they brought civilisation to it. But you too arrogant to admit history facts.

Education:

First ever university was built a woman in fez Morocco, ans after the moors built many other universities in And Alicia. (Cordoba, Granada,....)

Health:

Tulun, a surgeon named Al-Zahrawi, often called the “father of surgery,” wrote an illustrated encyclopedia that would ultimately be used as a guide to European surgeons for the next five hundred years. Al-Zarawhi’s surgical instruments, such as scalpels, bone saws, and forceps are still used by modern surgeons. Al-Zahrawi is also reportedly the first surgeon to perform a caesarean operation.

Another significant Muslim discovery came in the 13th century, when the Muslim medic Ibn Nafis described the pulmonary circulation almost three hundred years before William Harvey, the English physician who is believed by many Westerners to have “discovered” it. The technique of inoculation, or the introduction of an antigenic substance or vaccine into the body to induce immunity to a disease, is also said to have been designed by Muslims in Turkey and brought to Europe by the wife of England’s Turkish ambassador in 1724.

We gonna need days to list all the science discoveries and contributions of Muslims to better the lives of humans.

Ask any medical student engineer, astrologist, scientist, philosopher, mathematician, ect....go to South of Spain, Damascus, Baghdad, Cairo and see history for yourself and compare it to what Muslims achieved and whay were the Europeans doing at that time.

I only cite things like to those who think that they are superior to others....my moro we are all humans, and we have bad and good in every race and civilisation and we should co exist.

Here is some Islamic science.

Qur’an 18:83
“They ask you about Dhu’l-Qarnain [Alexander the Great]. Say, ‘I will cite some-
thing of his story. We gave him authority in the land and means of accomplishing his goals.
So he followed a path until he reached the setting place of the sun. He saw that it set in
black, muddy, hot water. Near it he found people.”

http://www.prophetofdoom.net/pdf/Prophet_of_Doom_Appendix_Quotes.pdf
On coexistence.

“In the Muslim community, the holy war is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the [Muslim] mission and [the obligation to] convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force. Therefore, caliphate and royal authority are united [in Islam], so that the person in charge can devote the available strength to both of them [i.e. religion and politics] at the same time. The other religious groups did not have a universal mission, and the holy war was not a religious duty for them, save only for purposes of defense... Islam is under obligation to gain power over other nations.” (Muqaddimah)

Table of Contents IslamicSupremacism.org - A Short Course Previous Page Next Page 28 More Classic Jurist Opinions on Islamic Supremacism & Jihad Chronologically, 635 - 1800 AD 3 are Sufi Notice these are not cherry picked examples of Extremists™, rather they are revered in the Islamic world as among the most authoritative “classic jurists” in history, as the last page was. Scan their qualifications now, look at what they said later - you will see they are all open ended instructions to Muslims concerning relations with all non-Muslims, affirming Koran 9:29 is good for all times and places, and not just historical descriptions of events. Hitler, “Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation.” Mein Kampf. If you are scanning this page, bold numbers are most noteworthy. 6) Abu Bakr (d. 635) - 1st successor to Muhammad, 1st of the “4 rightly guided caliphs”. He is quoted in Bukhari 2:23:483. He led the apostate wars, and is the namesake of the first Islamic State caliph in 2014 Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi. 7) Umar ibn al-Khattab (~580 - 644) - 2nd successor to Muhammad, 2nd of the “4 rightly guided caliphs.” Umar is also quoted in Bukhari. The famous Pact of Umar was a peace treaty between the Caliph Umar and the Christians of Syria., who promised to abide by a detailed list of humiliating concessions as 2nd class citizens, that became a model for other places under Islamic law. The origin of this document is uncertain, but the “classic jurists” have taken it very seriously and quote from it, as you already saw with Ghazali on the last page. Umar on IS&J. 8) `Abdullah ibn `Abbas (~618 - 687) - said to be a paternal cousin of Muhammad. He is quoted in Bukhari and other hadith. During his life he was called The Great Scholar of the Ummah. “... famous for his deep insight, profound learning, keen memory, high intelligence, and perceptiveness.” He narrated about 1600 traditions (hadith), and wrote a complete commentary on the Koran Tafsir Ibn Abbas. ibn Abbas on IS&J. 9) Abu Yusuf (Yaqub ibn Ibrahim al-Ansari) (731 - 798) - Famous Hanafi jurist, one of the most important disciples of Abu Hanifa (founder of the Hanafi school). Judge in Baghdad, and later Chief Justice (qadi al-qudat) under Abbasid caliph Harun al-Rashid. Abu Yusuf on IS&J. 10) Muhammad al-Shaybani (754 - 811) - Famous Hanafi jurist, another of the most important disciples of Abu Hanifa. Author of several authoritative works, particularly an important work on jihad, The Islamic Law of Nations. al-Shaybani on IS&J. 11) Imam Al-Shafi’i (767 - 820) - founder of the Shafi’i school, jurist, one of the “4 great imams”. Disciple of al-Shaybani and Imam Malik (founder of the Maliki school): Al-Shafi'i on IS&J. 12) Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari (~838 - 923) - Very famous Persian Islamic scholar, historian, and prolific writer, “one of the major mujtahid Imams”, memorized Koran at 7. Most famous for his massive commentary on the Qur'an Tafsir al-Tabari, an equally large History of Prophets and Kings, and an encyclopedia of jurisprudence entitled al-Basit. al-Tabari on (9:29). 13) Ibn Abi Zayd al-Qayrawani (922 - 996) - Maliki jurist, “He was the Imam of the Malikis in his time, and their model.” Wrote the very well known Treatise on Maliki Fiqh available free on line today, La Risala. al-Qayrawani on IS&J 14) Abu Al-Hasan Al-Mawardi (972-1058) - Shafi'i jurist, Chief Justice in Baghdad, sociologist, considered as one of the most famous thinkers in political science in the middle ages before ibn Khaldun. Wrote several important books on Islamic governance, some translated into various languages. Al-Mawardi on IS&J. 15) Abu Ishaq Elbiri (11th century) - well-known Muslim jurist and poet of his time. In 1066, shortly before an estimated 4,000 Jews were killed in Muslim ruled Spain during the Golden Age™, he wrote: “Do not consider that killing them is treachery. Nay, it would be treachery to leave them scoffing. Bostom: Jihad and Islamic Antisemitism More Abu Ishaq on IS&J. 16) Ibn Abdun (d. 1134) - Maliki jurist in Andalusia, gave these legal opinions regarding Jews and Christians in Seville around 1100AD, during the Golden Age in Spain. “He emphasized that the qadi, a jurist should be a man of prudence, compassion, impartiality, and learning...” Ibn Abdun. on IS. 17) al-Zamakshari (~1075 - 1144) - “Persian renown for his great scholarship of the Qur'an and his magnificent mastery of the Arabic language. Scholars of all ranks and schools of thought have tremendous regard for him... His monumental work al-Kashaf `an Haqa'iq al-Tanzil wa `Uyun al-Aqawil fi Wujuh al-Ta'wil, is celebrated for its genius and linguistic depth.” From his Tafsir (Koran commentary), about al-Zamakshari on IS&J. 18) Shaikh Burhanuddin Ali of Marghinan (1135 - 1196) - Hanafi jurist, from his famous manual of Sunni law the Hidaya, which is considered an authoritative guide in Central Asia, Afghanistan, and India. This is not a historical account, it is a timeless religious ruling by an influential Hanafi jurist. “...[jihad] is established as a divine ordinance, by the word of God, who said in the Quran, ‘Slay the infidels,‘ and also by saying of the Prophet, ‘War is permanently established until the Day of Judgment.’ When the Muslims enter the enemy’s country and besiege the cities or strongholds of the infidels, it is necessary to invite them to embrace the faith, because Ibn ‘Abbas relates of the Prophet that he never destroyed any without previously inviting them to embrace the faith... If the infidels, upon receiving the call, neither consent to it nor agree to pay capitation tax, it is then incumbent on the Muslims to call upon God for assistance, and to make war upon them...; the Prophet, moreover, commands us so to do.” More Hidaya on Jihad 19) Ibn Qudamah al-Maqdisi (1147-1223) - Hanbali jurist, noted Islamic scholar and author of many treatises of Hanbali jurisprudence and doctrine, including al-Mughni (the most widely known textbook of Hanbali fiqh). Ibn Kathir (listed below) said of him, "proficient, there was not found in his era nor before it by a long span of time, anyone possessing more fiqh – understanding of the religion – than him." al-Maqdisi on IS&J. 20) Yahya ibn Sharaf al-Nawawi (~1234-1278) - Shafi'i jurist, Syrian, author, wrote “numerous works of great importance” including Riyad-us Saliheen, and Minhaj al-Talibin, both classical shafi'i manuals of Islamic Law. al-Nawawi on IS&J. 21) 'Abdallah ibn 'Umar al-Baydawi (~1286-1316) - Shafi’i jurist, chief judge of Shiraz, Persian scholar, writer. In his important Qur’anic exegesis The Secrets of Revelation and The Secrets of Interpretation, he gives this ruling on Qur’an 5:82 & 2:61, about the Jews “humiliation and wretchedness”. 22) Abu Mansur Hasan bin Yusuf Al-Hilli (1250-1326) - Shi’ite jurist, “one of the greatest Muslim jurist and scholars of his time”, prolific writer. Al-Hilli on IS&J. 23) Ibn al-Qayyim al-Jawziyya (1292-1350) - Hanbali jurist, important disciple of Ibn Tamiyyah, eventually becoming his successor Imam. Qur'anic commentator, teacher, most notably of Ibn Kathir. He is often quoted by other Muslims in their rulings on jihad. For example here. 24) Ziauddin Barani (1285-1357) - Indian jurist, historian, political thinker, writer, companion of Sultan Muhammad b. Tughluq. He pleads for an all out struggle against Hinduism, and discusses whether jizya should be accepted from them, as it is from the People of the Book - Jews and Christians. Barani on IS&J. 25) Ahmad Ibn Naqib al-Misri (1302-1368AD) - compiled Reliance of the Traveller. On IS&J: “Jihad means to war against non-Muslims, and is etymologically derived from the word mujahada signifying warfare to establish the religion. And it is the lesser jihad. As for the greater jihad, it is spiritual warfare against the lower self...” (Reliance o9.0) That’s all it says about the “greater jihad”, then spends 11 pages explaining the “lesser jihad” like this:
 “The caliph makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians . . . until they become Muslim or pay the non-Muslim poll tax.” (o9.8) there’s a comment added from a Jordanian jurist: the caliph wages this war only “provided that he has first invited [Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians] to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya) . . . while remaining in their ancestral religions... Though, if there is no caliph, no permission is required [to fight jihad].” (o9.6) Certified by al-Azhar University in 1991  "conforms to the practice and faith of the orthodox Sunni community." Reliance of the Traveller quotes K-47:35 then says Muslims shouldn’t make truces in war when they are uppermost, only when weak, and never for more than 10 years (o9.16). Reliance of the Traveller on Christians, inspired by the 7th century Pact of Umar above: "... forbidden to ring church bells or display crosses, recite the Torah or Evangel aloud, or make public display of their funerals and feast days, and are forbidden to build new churches." (Reliance o.11.5,6,7) 26) Ibn Kathir (1323-1396) - Shafi’i jurist, Syrian disciple of Ibn Taymiyya, a ‘qadi’, hafiz (memorized the Koran), master scholar of history and the Qur’an. His 5,000 page commentary Tafsir Ibn Kathir is “famous all over the Muslim world and among Muslims in the Western world, and is one of the most widely used explanations of the Qu’ran today”. In it he gives this commentary on the Pact of Umar “treaty of peace”: “Paying Jizya Is a Sign of Kufr and Disgrace” “Allah said “until they pay the Jizya,” if they do not choose to embrace Islam, “with willing submission” in defeat and subservience, “and feel themselves subdued,” disgraced, humiliated and belittled. Therefore, Muslims are not allowed to honor the people of Dhimma or elevate them above Muslims, for they are miserable, disgraced, and humiliated. Muslim recorded from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet said, “Do not initiate the Salam to the Jews and the Christians, and if you meet them in a road, force them to its narrowest alley.” (Muslim B.26, #5389) This is why the leader of the faithful ‘Umar... demanded his well known conditions to be met by the Christians, these conditions that ensured their continued humiliation, degradation, and disgrace. The scholars of Hadith narrated from Abdur-Rahman... the terms of the treaty of peace he conducted with the Christians: This is a document to... ‘Umar the leader of the faithful, for the Christians of such and such a city. When you [Muslims] came to us we requested safety for ourselves, children, property and followers of our religion. We made a condition on ourselves that we will neither erect in our areas a monastery, church, or a sanctuary for a monk, nor restore any place of worship that needs restoration... We will respect Muslims, move from places we sit in if they choose to sit in them...” And so on, he finishes the rest of the Pact of Umar. (Tafsir Ibn Kathir (Riyadh, 2000), vol 4, pp. 404-407) More Ibn Kathir on IS&J. 27) Ibn Khaldun (1332-1406) - Maliki jurist, “The most important figure in the field of History and Sociology in Muslim History. He is one of those shining stars that contributed so richly to the understanding of Civilization." Professor John Esposito, Ph.D., taught a class Introduction to Islamic Civilization where a month was spent on part IV Ibn Khaldun on Islamic Civilization. From Khaldun’s famous Muqaddimah: An Introduction to History: “We do not think that we should blacken the pages of this book with discussion of their [Christian] dogmas of unbelief. In general, they are well known. All of them are unbelief. This is clearly stated in the noble Koran. To discuss or argue those things with them is not up to us. It is for them to choose between conversion to Islam, payment of the poll tax, or death.” (Vol 1, p. 473) Ibn Khaldun  Celebrated Supremacist “In the Muslim community, the holy war is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the [Muslim] mission and [the obligation to] convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force. Therefore, caliphate and royal authority are united [in Islam], so that the person in charge can devote the available strength to both of them [i.e. religion and politics] at the same time. The other religious groups did not have a universal mission, and the holy war was not a religious duty for them, save only for purposes of defense... Islam is under obligation to gain power over other nations.” (Muqaddimah) 28) Shaykh Muhammad b. Abd al-Karim al-Maghili (d.~1504) - From present day Algeria. Led a successful campaign to expel the city's Jews: “On the day of payment [the dhimmis] shall be assembled in a public place like the suq. They should be standing there waiting in the lowest and dirtiest place. The acting officials representing the Law shall ... adopt a threatening attitude so that it seems to them, as well as to the others, that our object is to degrade them by pretending to take their possessions. They will realize that we are doing them a favor (again) in accepting from them the jizya and letting them go free. Then they shall be dragged one by one ... for the exacting of payment. When paying, the dhimmi will receive a blow and will be thrust aside so that he will think that he has escaped the sword through this (insult). This is the way that the friends of the Lord, of the first and last generations, will act toward their infidel enemies, for might belongs to Allah, to His Apostle, and to the Believers.” (From Ahkam ahl al-Dhimma Faith Freedom International Quotes from Islamic jurists) 29) Imam Al-Suyuti (1445-1505) - Sufi, Hanafi jurist, famous Egyptian writer, multidisciplinary scholar. Memorized the Koran at 8. The mujtahid imam and foremost hadith master, historian, biographer, he authored works in virtually every Islamic science. Recognized as the most prolific author in the realm of Islamic literature, writing nearly 600 books and treatises, including co-compiling the most widespread condensed commentary of Qur'an in our time, Tafsir al-Jalalayn. Note his Sufi mysticism did not conflict with his views here on (9:29). 30) Fadl-Ullah bin Ruzbihan Isfahani (1456 - 1521) - Shafi’i jurist, said this in his Muslim Conduct of State: Suluk ul-Muluk, summarizing Shafi'i and Hanafi law. 31) Shaikh Abdul Quddus Gangoh (~1456~1537) - Sufi Indian poet, among the most prominent Sufi Shaykhs of the Chishti Silsila branch. Scholar K.S. Lal says: “Gangoh need be cited because he belonged to the Chishtia Silsila considered to be the most tolerant of all Sufi groups. He wrote letters to the Sultan Sikandar Lodi, Babur, and Humayun to re—invigorate the Sharia and reduce the Hindus to payers of land tax and jizya. To Babur he wrote: “No non—Muslim should be given any office or employment in the Diwan of Islam... Furthermore, in conformity with the principles of the Shariat they should be subjected to all types of indignities and humiliations. They should be made to pay the jizya...They should be disallowed from donning the dress of the Muslims... They should not be allowed to consider themselves the equal to the Muslims.” (K.S. Lal, The Legacy of Muslim Rule in India, New Delhi, Aditya Prakashan, 1992, p. 237, Quotes from Islamic jurists) 32) Muhammad Taqi al-Majlisi (~1616–1698) - authoritative Shi’ite jurist and prolific hadith collector, educated in Islamic philosophy and mysticism. Author of over 100 books in Arabic and Persian, including one of the most important hadith collections to Shia, Bihar al-Anwar. Had a very close relationship with at least 2 of the Safavid monarchs, Shah Sulayman (d.1694), who in 1686 appointed him the “Sheik of Islam” in Isfahan, and Shah Sultan Husayn (d.1713) who in 1694 changed his title to Mullabashi, he was the highest religious and executive authority during those times. During his last four years under Husayn he was the de facto ruler of Iran.“ (Andrew Bostom Legacy of Jihad) “Some say that they [the dhimmis] should not be informed of the amount of the jizya so that they should live continuously, in the course of the year, in a state of anxiety and agitation. [...] ... It is also incumbent upon Muslims that they should not accept from them victuals with which they had come into contact, such as distillates <and oils>, which cannot be purified. If something can be purified, such as clothes, if they are dry, they can be accepted, they are clean. But if they [the dhimmis] had come into contact with those cloths in moisture they should be rinsed with water after being obtained… It would also be better if the ruler of the Muslims would establish that all infidels could not move out of their homes on days when it rains or snows because they would make Muslims impure... Muslims should also be urged to show disrespect toward them [the dhimmis].” More al-Maqdisi on IS. (Excerpted from "Risala-ya Sawa'iq al-Yahud [The Treatise Lightning Bolts against the Jews]." English translation by V.B. Moreen in Die Welt des Islams 32 (1992): 187-193.) (Andrew Bostom Legacy of Jihad) 33) Shah Aladihlawi Wali-Allah (1703–1762) - Sufi, Hanafi jurist, Islamic scholar from Delhi. Memorized Koran at 7. “One of the greatest religious thinkers produced by Muslim India... endowed with saintly qualities.” Authored 23 books in Arabic, and 28 in Persian. In spite of his Sufi mysticism, he said: “It has become clear to my mind that the kingdom of heaven has predestined that kafirs should be reduced to a state of humiliation and treated with utter contempt.” More Wali-Allah on IS&J. Obama in his 2009 Cairo speech at al-Azhar said: “And when the first Muslim-American was recently elected to Congress, he took the oath to defend our Constitution using the same Holy Koran that one of our Founding Fathers – Thomas Jefferson – kept in his personal library.” That’s deceptive: Sidi Haji Abdrahaman (in 1786) - Maybe not a religious authority so I am not giving him a number, but he was Tripoli’s Ambassador to London giving his opinion on IS&J. Jefferson’s interest in the Koran had to do with getting to know the Muslim (Barbary) pirates before they went to war. Christopher Hitchens explains: “...in 1786, the new United States found that it was having to deal ... with ... the Muslim religion. The Barbary states of North Africa ... were using the ports of today's Algeria, Libya, and Tunisia to wage a war of piracy and enslavement against all shipping that passed through the Strait of Gibraltar. Thousands of vessels were taken, and more than a million Europeans and Americans sold into slavery. The fledgling United States of America was in an especially difficult position, having forfeited the protection of the British Royal Navy. Under this pressure, Congress gave assent to the Treaty of Tripoli... which stated roundly that "the government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion, as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen." ... Jefferson and John Adams ... went to call on Tripoli's envoy to London, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman. They asked him by what right he extorted money and took slaves in this way. As Jefferson later reported to Congress: “The ambassador answered us that [the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.” C. Hitchens - Jefferson's Koran Medieval historian Raymond Ibrahim, from The Historical Reality of the Muslim Conquests: “Because it is now almost axiomatic for American school textbooks to whitewash all things Islamic (see here for example), it may be useful to examine one of those aspects that are regularly distorted: the Muslim conquests. Few events of history are so well documented and attested to as are these conquests, which commenced soon after the death of the Muslim prophet Muhammad (632) and tapered off circa 750. Large swathes of the Old World—from the India in the east, to Spain in the west—were conquered and consolidated by the sword of Islam during this time. By the standards of history, the reality of these conquests is unassailable, for history proper concerns itself with primary sources; and the Islamic conquests are thoroughly documented. More importantly, the overwhelming majority of primary source materials we rely on do not come from non-Muslims, who might be accused of bias. Rather, the foremost historians bequeathing to posterity thousands of pages of source materials documenting the Islamic conquests were not only Muslims themselves; they were—and still are—regarded by today’s Muslims as pious and trustworthy scholars (generically, the ulema).“ Forward to Consequences of Rejecting Reason

Last few hundreds of years...who went around killing millions upon millions and force Christianity on indigenous people, make them slaves and steal their resources?
Who started WW1 and WW2? Vietnam? Korean war? Iraq invasion? Regime changes...sells arms and bombs to hostile regimes and terrorist groups? MUslims?

Those wars had 0 to do with Christianity. Check out Christian doctrine. You are woefully under and misinformed.

Revisionist history. The Islamic rule in Spain is littered with atrocities and battles to control the Christian population.
Islam also takes credit for the converts already educated in Western sciences. Islam only takes, it does not give anything. That is also stated in the Koran.

Both Jews and Christians practiced their freely in Spain under Islamic rule, if Muslims as barbaric as you said they could've forced all Christians to either convert or die....they ruled southern Europe for centuries....Europe was in the dark ages, they brought civilisation to it. But you too arrogant to admit history facts.

Education:

First ever university was built a woman in fez Morocco, ans after the moors built many other universities in And Alicia. (Cordoba, Granada,....)

Health:

Tulun, a surgeon named Al-Zahrawi, often called the “father of surgery,” wrote an illustrated encyclopedia that would ultimately be used as a guide to European surgeons for the next five hundred years. Al-Zarawhi’s surgical instruments, such as scalpels, bone saws, and forceps are still used by modern surgeons. Al-Zahrawi is also reportedly the first surgeon to perform a caesarean operation.

Another significant Muslim discovery came in the 13th century, when the Muslim medic Ibn Nafis described the pulmonary circulation almost three hundred years before William Harvey, the English physician who is believed by many Westerners to have “discovered” it. The technique of inoculation, or the introduction of an antigenic substance or vaccine into the body to induce immunity to a disease, is also said to have been designed by Muslims in Turkey and brought to Europe by the wife of England’s Turkish ambassador in 1724.

We gonna need days to list all the science discoveries and contributions of Muslims to better the lives of humans.

Ask any medical student engineer, astrologist, scientist, philosopher, mathematician, ect....go to South of Spain, Damascus, Baghdad, Cairo and see history for yourself and compare it to what Muslims achieved and whay were the Europeans doing at that time.

I only cite things like to those who think that they are superior to others....my moro we are all humans, and we have bad and good in every race and civilisation and we should co exist.

Here is some Islamic science.

Qur’an 18:83
“They ask you about Dhu’l-Qarnain [Alexander the Great]. Say, ‘I will cite some-
thing of his story. We gave him authority in the land and means of accomplishing his goals.
So he followed a path until he reached the setting place of the sun. He saw that it set in
black, muddy, hot water. Near it he found people.”

http://www.prophetofdoom.net/pdf/Prophet_of_Doom_Appendix_Quotes.pdf
On coexistence.

“In the Muslim community, the holy war is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the [Muslim] mission and [the obligation to] convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force. Therefore, caliphate and royal authority are united [in Islam], so that the person in charge can devote the available strength to both of them [i.e. religion and politics] at the same time. The other religious groups did not have a universal mission, and the holy war was not a religious duty for them, save only for purposes of defense... Islam is under obligation to gain power over other nations.” (Muqaddimah)

Table of Contents IslamicSupremacism.org - A Short Course Previous Page Next Page 28 More Classic Jurist Opinions on Islamic Supremacism & Jihad Chronologically, 635 - 1800 AD 3 are Sufi Notice these are not cherry picked examples of Extremists™, rather they are revered in the Islamic world as among the most authoritative “classic jurists” in history, as the last page was. Scan their qualifications now, look at what they said later - you will see they are all open ended instructions to Muslims concerning relations with all non-Muslims, affirming Koran 9:29 is good for all times and places, and not just historical descriptions of events. Hitler, “Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation.” Mein Kampf. If you are scanning this page, bold numbers are most noteworthy. 6) Abu Bakr (d. 635) - 1st successor to Muhammad, 1st of the “4 rightly guided caliphs”. He is quoted in Bukhari 2:23:483. He led the apostate wars, and is the namesake of the first Islamic State caliph in 2014 Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi. 7) Umar ibn al-Khattab (~580 - 644) - 2nd successor to Muhammad, 2nd of the “4 rightly guided caliphs.” Umar is also quoted in Bukhari. The famous Pact of Umar was a peace treaty between the Caliph Umar and the Christians of Syria., who promised to abide by a detailed list of humiliating concessions as 2nd class citizens, that became a model for other places under Islamic law. The origin of this document is uncertain, but the “classic jurists” have taken it very seriously and quote from it, as you already saw with Ghazali on the last page. Umar on IS&J. 8) `Abdullah ibn `Abbas (~618 - 687) - said to be a paternal cousin of Muhammad. He is quoted in Bukhari and other hadith. During his life he was called The Great Scholar of the Ummah. “... famous for his deep insight, profound learning, keen memory, high intelligence, and perceptiveness.” He narrated about 1600 traditions (hadith), and wrote a complete commentary on the Koran Tafsir Ibn Abbas. ibn Abbas on IS&J. 9) Abu Yusuf (Yaqub ibn Ibrahim al-Ansari) (731 - 798) - Famous Hanafi jurist, one of the most important disciples of Abu Hanifa (founder of the Hanafi school). Judge in Baghdad, and later Chief Justice (qadi al-qudat) under Abbasid caliph Harun al-Rashid. Abu Yusuf on IS&J. 10) Muhammad al-Shaybani (754 - 811) - Famous Hanafi jurist, another of the most important disciples of Abu Hanifa. Author of several authoritative works, particularly an important work on jihad, The Islamic Law of Nations. al-Shaybani on IS&J. 11) Imam Al-Shafi’i (767 - 820) - founder of the Shafi’i school, jurist, one of the “4 great imams”. Disciple of al-Shaybani and Imam Malik (founder of the Maliki school): Al-Shafi'i on IS&J. 12) Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari (~838 - 923) - Very famous Persian Islamic scholar, historian, and prolific writer, “one of the major mujtahid Imams”, memorized Koran at 7. Most famous for his massive commentary on the Qur'an Tafsir al-Tabari, an equally large History of Prophets and Kings, and an encyclopedia of jurisprudence entitled al-Basit. al-Tabari on (9:29). 13) Ibn Abi Zayd al-Qayrawani (922 - 996) - Maliki jurist, “He was the Imam of the Malikis in his time, and their model.” Wrote the very well known Treatise on Maliki Fiqh available free on line today, La Risala. al-Qayrawani on IS&J 14) Abu Al-Hasan Al-Mawardi (972-1058) - Shafi'i jurist, Chief Justice in Baghdad, sociologist, considered as one of the most famous thinkers in political science in the middle ages before ibn Khaldun. Wrote several important books on Islamic governance, some translated into various languages. Al-Mawardi on IS&J. 15) Abu Ishaq Elbiri (11th century) - well-known Muslim jurist and poet of his time. In 1066, shortly before an estimated 4,000 Jews were killed in Muslim ruled Spain during the Golden Age™, he wrote: “Do not consider that killing them is treachery. Nay, it would be treachery to leave them scoffing. Bostom: Jihad and Islamic Antisemitism More Abu Ishaq on IS&J. 16) Ibn Abdun (d. 1134) - Maliki jurist in Andalusia, gave these legal opinions regarding Jews and Christians in Seville around 1100AD, during the Golden Age in Spain. “He emphasized that the qadi, a jurist should be a man of prudence, compassion, impartiality, and learning...” Ibn Abdun. on IS. 17) al-Zamakshari (~1075 - 1144) - “Persian renown for his great scholarship of the Qur'an and his magnificent mastery of the Arabic language. Scholars of all ranks and schools of thought have tremendous regard for him... His monumental work al-Kashaf `an Haqa'iq al-Tanzil wa `Uyun al-Aqawil fi Wujuh al-Ta'wil, is celebrated for its genius and linguistic depth.” From his Tafsir (Koran commentary), about al-Zamakshari on IS&J. 18) Shaikh Burhanuddin Ali of Marghinan (1135 - 1196) - Hanafi jurist, from his famous manual of Sunni law the Hidaya, which is considered an authoritative guide in Central Asia, Afghanistan, and India. This is not a historical account, it is a timeless religious ruling by an influential Hanafi jurist. “...[jihad] is established as a divine ordinance, by the word of God, who said in the Quran, ‘Slay the infidels,‘ and also by saying of the Prophet, ‘War is permanently established until the Day of Judgment.’ When the Muslims enter the enemy’s country and besiege the cities or strongholds of the infidels, it is necessary to invite them to embrace the faith, because Ibn ‘Abbas relates of the Prophet that he never destroyed any without previously inviting them to embrace the faith... If the infidels, upon receiving the call, neither consent to it nor agree to pay capitation tax, it is then incumbent on the Muslims to call upon God for assistance, and to make war upon them...; the Prophet, moreover, commands us so to do.” More Hidaya on Jihad 19) Ibn Qudamah al-Maqdisi (1147-1223) - Hanbali jurist, noted Islamic scholar and author of many treatises of Hanbali jurisprudence and doctrine, including al-Mughni (the most widely known textbook of Hanbali fiqh). Ibn Kathir (listed below) said of him, "proficient, there was not found in his era nor before it by a long span of time, anyone possessing more fiqh – understanding of the religion – than him." al-Maqdisi on IS&J. 20) Yahya ibn Sharaf al-Nawawi (~1234-1278) - Shafi'i jurist, Syrian, author, wrote “numerous works of great importance” including Riyad-us Saliheen, and Minhaj al-Talibin, both classical shafi'i manuals of Islamic Law. al-Nawawi on IS&J. 21) 'Abdallah ibn 'Umar al-Baydawi (~1286-1316) - Shafi’i jurist, chief judge of Shiraz, Persian scholar, writer. In his important Qur’anic exegesis The Secrets of Revelation and The Secrets of Interpretation, he gives this ruling on Qur’an 5:82 & 2:61, about the Jews “humiliation and wretchedness”. 22) Abu Mansur Hasan bin Yusuf Al-Hilli (1250-1326) - Shi’ite jurist, “one of the greatest Muslim jurist and scholars of his time”, prolific writer. Al-Hilli on IS&J. 23) Ibn al-Qayyim al-Jawziyya (1292-1350) - Hanbali jurist, important disciple of Ibn Tamiyyah, eventually becoming his successor Imam. Qur'anic commentator, teacher, most notably of Ibn Kathir. He is often quoted by other Muslims in their rulings on jihad. For example here. 24) Ziauddin Barani (1285-1357) - Indian jurist, historian, political thinker, writer, companion of Sultan Muhammad b. Tughluq. He pleads for an all out struggle against Hinduism, and discusses whether jizya should be accepted from them, as it is from the People of the Book - Jews and Christians. Barani on IS&J. 25) Ahmad Ibn Naqib al-Misri (1302-1368AD) - compiled Reliance of the Traveller. On IS&J: “Jihad means to war against non-Muslims, and is etymologically derived from the word mujahada signifying warfare to establish the religion. And it is the lesser jihad. As for the greater jihad, it is spiritual warfare against the lower self...” (Reliance o9.0) That’s all it says about the “greater jihad”, then spends 11 pages explaining the “lesser jihad” like this:
 “The caliph makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians . . . until they become Muslim or pay the non-Muslim poll tax.” (o9.8) there’s a comment added from a Jordanian jurist: the caliph wages this war only “provided that he has first invited [Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians] to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya) . . . while remaining in their ancestral religions... Though, if there is no caliph, no permission is required [to fight jihad].” (o9.6) Certified by al-Azhar University in 1991  "conforms to the practice and faith of the orthodox Sunni community." Reliance of the Traveller quotes K-47:35 then says Muslims shouldn’t make truces in war when they are uppermost, only when weak, and never for more than 10 years (o9.16). Reliance of the Traveller on Christians, inspired by the 7th century Pact of Umar above: "... forbidden to ring church bells or display crosses, recite the Torah or Evangel aloud, or make public display of their funerals and feast days, and are forbidden to build new churches." (Reliance o.11.5,6,7) 26) Ibn Kathir (1323-1396) - Shafi’i jurist, Syrian disciple of Ibn Taymiyya, a ‘qadi’, hafiz (memorized the Koran), master scholar of history and the Qur’an. His 5,000 page commentary Tafsir Ibn Kathir is “famous all over the Muslim world and among Muslims in the Western world, and is one of the most widely used explanations of the Qu’ran today”. In it he gives this commentary on the Pact of Umar “treaty of peace”: “Paying Jizya Is a Sign of Kufr and Disgrace” “Allah said “until they pay the Jizya,” if they do not choose to embrace Islam, “with willing submission” in defeat and subservience, “and feel themselves subdued,” disgraced, humiliated and belittled. Therefore, Muslims are not allowed to honor the people of Dhimma or elevate them above Muslims, for they are miserable, disgraced, and humiliated. Muslim recorded from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet said, “Do not initiate the Salam to the Jews and the Christians, and if you meet them in a road, force them to its narrowest alley.” (Muslim B.26, #5389) This is why the leader of the faithful ‘Umar... demanded his well known conditions to be met by the Christians, these conditions that ensured their continued humiliation, degradation, and disgrace. The scholars of Hadith narrated from Abdur-Rahman... the terms of the treaty of peace he conducted with the Christians: This is a document to... ‘Umar the leader of the faithful, for the Christians of such and such a city. When you [Muslims] came to us we requested safety for ourselves, children, property and followers of our religion. We made a condition on ourselves that we will neither erect in our areas a monastery, church, or a sanctuary for a monk, nor restore any place of worship that needs restoration... We will respect Muslims, move from places we sit in if they choose to sit in them...” And so on, he finishes the rest of the Pact of Umar. (Tafsir Ibn Kathir (Riyadh, 2000), vol 4, pp. 404-407) More Ibn Kathir on IS&J. 27) Ibn Khaldun (1332-1406) - Maliki jurist, “The most important figure in the field of History and Sociology in Muslim History. He is one of those shining stars that contributed so richly to the understanding of Civilization." Professor John Esposito, Ph.D., taught a class Introduction to Islamic Civilization where a month was spent on part IV Ibn Khaldun on Islamic Civilization. From Khaldun’s famous Muqaddimah: An Introduction to History: “We do not think that we should blacken the pages of this book with discussion of their [Christian] dogmas of unbelief. In general, they are well known. All of them are unbelief. This is clearly stated in the noble Koran. To discuss or argue those things with them is not up to us. It is for them to choose between conversion to Islam, payment of the poll tax, or death.” (Vol 1, p. 473) Ibn Khaldun  Celebrated Supremacist “In the Muslim community, the holy war is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the [Muslim] mission and [the obligation to] convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force. Therefore, caliphate and royal authority are united [in Islam], so that the person in charge can devote the available strength to both of them [i.e. religion and politics] at the same time. The other religious groups did not have a universal mission, and the holy war was not a religious duty for them, save only for purposes of defense... Islam is under obligation to gain power over other nations.” (Muqaddimah) 28) Shaykh Muhammad b. Abd al-Karim al-Maghili (d.~1504) - From present day Algeria. Led a successful campaign to expel the city's Jews: “On the day of payment [the dhimmis] shall be assembled in a public place like the suq. They should be standing there waiting in the lowest and dirtiest place. The acting officials representing the Law shall ... adopt a threatening attitude so that it seems to them, as well as to the others, that our object is to degrade them by pretending to take their possessions. They will realize that we are doing them a favor (again) in accepting from them the jizya and letting them go free. Then they shall be dragged one by one ... for the exacting of payment. When paying, the dhimmi will receive a blow and will be thrust aside so that he will think that he has escaped the sword through this (insult). This is the way that the friends of the Lord, of the first and last generations, will act toward their infidel enemies, for might belongs to Allah, to His Apostle, and to the Believers.” (From Ahkam ahl al-Dhimma Faith Freedom International Quotes from Islamic jurists) 29) Imam Al-Suyuti (1445-1505) - Sufi, Hanafi jurist, famous Egyptian writer, multidisciplinary scholar. Memorized the Koran at 8. The mujtahid imam and foremost hadith master, historian, biographer, he authored works in virtually every Islamic science. Recognized as the most prolific author in the realm of Islamic literature, writing nearly 600 books and treatises, including co-compiling the most widespread condensed commentary of Qur'an in our time, Tafsir al-Jalalayn. Note his Sufi mysticism did not conflict with his views here on (9:29). 30) Fadl-Ullah bin Ruzbihan Isfahani (1456 - 1521) - Shafi’i jurist, said this in his Muslim Conduct of State: Suluk ul-Muluk, summarizing Shafi'i and Hanafi law. 31) Shaikh Abdul Quddus Gangoh (~1456~1537) - Sufi Indian poet, among the most prominent Sufi Shaykhs of the Chishti Silsila branch. Scholar K.S. Lal says: “Gangoh need be cited because he belonged to the Chishtia Silsila considered to be the most tolerant of all Sufi groups. He wrote letters to the Sultan Sikandar Lodi, Babur, and Humayun to re—invigorate the Sharia and reduce the Hindus to payers of land tax and jizya. To Babur he wrote: “No non—Muslim should be given any office or employment in the Diwan of Islam... Furthermore, in conformity with the principles of the Shariat they should be subjected to all types of indignities and humiliations. They should be made to pay the jizya...They should be disallowed from donning the dress of the Muslims... They should not be allowed to consider themselves the equal to the Muslims.” (K.S. Lal, The Legacy of Muslim Rule in India, New Delhi, Aditya Prakashan, 1992, p. 237, Quotes from Islamic jurists) 32) Muhammad Taqi al-Majlisi (~1616–1698) - authoritative Shi’ite jurist and prolific hadith collector, educated in Islamic philosophy and mysticism. Author of over 100 books in Arabic and Persian, including one of the most important hadith collections to Shia, Bihar al-Anwar. Had a very close relationship with at least 2 of the Safavid monarchs, Shah Sulayman (d.1694), who in 1686 appointed him the “Sheik of Islam” in Isfahan, and Shah Sultan Husayn (d.1713) who in 1694 changed his title to Mullabashi, he was the highest religious and executive authority during those times. During his last four years under Husayn he was the de facto ruler of Iran.“ (Andrew Bostom Legacy of Jihad) “Some say that they [the dhimmis] should not be informed of the amount of the jizya so that they should live continuously, in the course of the year, in a state of anxiety and agitation. [...] ... It is also incumbent upon Muslims that they should not accept from them victuals with which they had come into contact, such as distillates <and oils>, which cannot be purified. If something can be purified, such as clothes, if they are dry, they can be accepted, they are clean. But if they [the dhimmis] had come into contact with those cloths in moisture they should be rinsed with water after being obtained… It would also be better if the ruler of the Muslims would establish that all infidels could not move out of their homes on days when it rains or snows because they would make Muslims impure... Muslims should also be urged to show disrespect toward them [the dhimmis].” More al-Maqdisi on IS. (Excerpted from "Risala-ya Sawa'iq al-Yahud [The Treatise Lightning Bolts against the Jews]." English translation by V.B. Moreen in Die Welt des Islams 32 (1992): 187-193.) (Andrew Bostom Legacy of Jihad) 33) Shah Aladihlawi Wali-Allah (1703–1762) - Sufi, Hanafi jurist, Islamic scholar from Delhi. Memorized Koran at 7. “One of the greatest religious thinkers produced by Muslim India... endowed with saintly qualities.” Authored 23 books in Arabic, and 28 in Persian. In spite of his Sufi mysticism, he said: “It has become clear to my mind that the kingdom of heaven has predestined that kafirs should be reduced to a state of humiliation and treated with utter contempt.” More Wali-Allah on IS&J. Obama in his 2009 Cairo speech at al-Azhar said: “And when the first Muslim-American was recently elected to Congress, he took the oath to defend our Constitution using the same Holy Koran that one of our Founding Fathers – Thomas Jefferson – kept in his personal library.” That’s deceptive: Sidi Haji Abdrahaman (in 1786) - Maybe not a religious authority so I am not giving him a number, but he was Tripoli’s Ambassador to London giving his opinion on IS&J. Jefferson’s interest in the Koran had to do with getting to know the Muslim (Barbary) pirates before they went to war. Christopher Hitchens explains: “...in 1786, the new United States found that it was having to deal ... with ... the Muslim religion. The Barbary states of North Africa ... were using the ports of today's Algeria, Libya, and Tunisia to wage a war of piracy and enslavement against all shipping that passed through the Strait of Gibraltar. Thousands of vessels were taken, and more than a million Europeans and Americans sold into slavery. The fledgling United States of America was in an especially difficult position, having forfeited the protection of the British Royal Navy. Under this pressure, Congress gave assent to the Treaty of Tripoli... which stated roundly that "the government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion, as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen." ... Jefferson and John Adams ... went to call on Tripoli's envoy to London, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman. They asked him by what right he extorted money and took slaves in this way. As Jefferson later reported to Congress: “The ambassador answered us that [the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.” C. Hitchens - Jefferson's Koran Medieval historian Raymond Ibrahim, from The Historical Reality of the Muslim Conquests: “Because it is now almost axiomatic for American school textbooks to whitewash all things Islamic (see here for example), it may be useful to examine one of those aspects that are regularly distorted: the Muslim conquests. Few events of history are so well documented and attested to as are these conquests, which commenced soon after the death of the Muslim prophet Muhammad (632) and tapered off circa 750. Large swathes of the Old World—from the India in the east, to Spain in the west—were conquered and consolidated by the sword of Islam during this time. By the standards of history, the reality of these conquests is unassailable, for history proper concerns itself with primary sources; and the Islamic conquests are thoroughly documented. More importantly, the overwhelming majority of primary source materials we rely on do not come from non-Muslims, who might be accused of bias. Rather, the foremost historians bequeathing to posterity thousands of pages of source materials documenting the Islamic conquests were not only Muslims themselves; they were—and still are—regarded by today’s Muslims as pious and trustworthy scholars (generically, the ulema).“ Forward to Consequences of Rejecting Reason

Last few hundreds of years...who went around killing millions upon millions and force Christianity on indigenous people, make them slaves and steal their resources?
Who started WW1 and WW2? Vietnam? Korean war? Iraq invasion? Regime changes...sells arms and bombs to hostile regimes and terrorist groups? MUslims?

Those wars had 0 to do with Christianity. Check out Christian doctrine. You are woefully under and misinformed.

Sir I wont waste my time answering you anymore if you gonna deny historical facts....for you to say Christianity or Christians had nothing to do with any of the atrocities that too place in the last 300 to 400 years, is almost criminal.

And by the way i have a huge respect for christianity as a Muslim otherwise i can't be one. but no the christianity that was tailored to fit the imperialistic agenda of the Church and the ruling families in Europe and elsewhere.

You won't waste my time because the truth about Islam will crush you. You do not likewhat you hear. And your Christianity crap is just that. Those atrocities had no scriptual sanction. In Islam terror can be a pious act.

 

[Issa]

Sir I wont waste my time answering you anymore if you gonna deny historical facts....for you to say Christianity or Christians had nothing to do with any of the atrocities that too place in the last 300 to 400 years, is almost criminal.

And by the way i have a huge respect for christianity as a Muslim otherwise i can't be one. but no the christianity that was tailored to fit the imperialistic agenda of the Church and the ruling families in Europe and elsewhere.

Issa-----do you have "respect" for the fact that islam was TAILORED to justify the genocide of hundreds of
millions and TO DATE has never repudiated THE VILE STINK of dhimmia?-----or the various other perverse and disgusting provisions of vile SHARIAH?. In fact------Islamic scholars do not even repudiate
the institution of slavery. You, yourself----justified the FILTH of Jizya as some kind of "tax for the common good"---------BULLSHIT (try to keep in mind-----my hubby's relatives paid that Jizya------it was NOT
USED to benefit their community---) Lots of Christians take exception to the historical reality of atrocities
committed BY CHRISTIANS--------stating that the actions were not consistent with Christianity-----whereas
muslims TAKE PRIDE in slut who tie bombs to their whorish asses for the purpose of murdering children-----
----an example is the adorations of the filthy bitch WAFA IDRIS------there are at least three schools for girls
named for that DIRTY WHORE--------as if the pile of dog shit is a SAINT for MURDERING FOR ALLAH

If Muslims were as bad as you say....what did stop them from just killing every living non muslim in the parts they ruled for centuries? why would the Jews run to Muslim countries when they were executed and kicked out of Europe? Why would still be christians, Jews, Chruches and Synagogues and lot of muslim Countries? How your husband wasnt excuted for not being Muslim living in a Muslim country?

Because Muslims got there asses kicked and started to behave themselves.

Muslims were the US of the old day and they controlled much of the old world....nothing wouldve stopped them from cleansing other religions...but didn't.

They sure did it is an eternal obligation. That they have not finished the job is proven daily.

Not True, Muslim countries have had minorities for centuries none went to extinsion....tell that to the natives of this land along with all the lands that got conquered by the Christian armies.

 

[Sunni Man]

I agree, I wasted too much time with her.

Irosie seeks out posts about Islam and muslims. Like some kind of deranged stalker.

All her posts are the same. First, she quotes her husband's first hand account about his terrifying escape from some muslim country. While forgetting that on other threads, she has stated hubby was an infant at the time.

Next, she will quote some alleged Pakistan doctor who clued her into the secret inner workings of Islamic society and muslim behavior. And of course she always includes the one time she visited a mosque as a little girl, and the multiple horrors she encountered there, and was lucky to have escaped with her head still attached to her body.

Then she dives right into her ubiquitous psycho rants about the religion of Islam and its fanatical adherents. Of course it wouldn't be an Irosie post without a heavy dose of filthy cuss words to spice up her incoherent nonsense and blatant misinformation. ..... ....

 

[Taz]

I agree, I wasted too much time with her.

Irosie seeks out posts about Islam and muslims. Like some kind of deranged stalker.

All her posts are the same. First, she quotes her husband's first hand account about his terrifying escape from some muslim country. While forgetting that on other threads, she has stated hubby was an infant at the time.

Next, she will quote some alleged Pakistan doctor who clued her into the secret inner workings of Islamic society and muslim behavior. And of course she always includes the one time she visited a mosque as a little girl, and the multiple horrors she encountered there, and was lucky to have escaped with her head still attached to her body.

Then she dives right into her ubiquitous psycho rants about the religion of Islam and its fanatical adherents. Of course it wouldn't be an Irosie post without a heavy dose of filthy cuss words to spice up her incoherent nonsense and blatant misinformation. ..... ....

As opposed to you, who quotes the koran.

 

[Lastamender]

Issa-----do you have "respect" for the fact that islam was TAILORED to justify the genocide of hundreds of
millions and TO DATE has never repudiated THE VILE STINK of dhimmia?-----or the various other perverse and disgusting provisions of vile SHARIAH?. In fact------Islamic scholars do not even repudiate
the institution of slavery. You, yourself----justified the FILTH of Jizya as some kind of "tax for the common good"---------BULLSHIT (try to keep in mind-----my hubby's relatives paid that Jizya------it was NOT
USED to benefit their community---) Lots of Christians take exception to the historical reality of atrocities
committed BY CHRISTIANS--------stating that the actions were not consistent with Christianity-----whereas
muslims TAKE PRIDE in slut who tie bombs to their whorish asses for the purpose of murdering children-----
----an example is the adorations of the filthy bitch WAFA IDRIS------there are at least three schools for girls
named for that DIRTY WHORE--------as if the pile of dog shit is a SAINT for MURDERING FOR ALLAH

If Muslims were as bad as you say....what did stop them from just killing every living non muslim in the parts they ruled for centuries? why would the Jews run to Muslim countries when they were executed and kicked out of Europe? Why would still be christians, Jews, Chruches and Synagogues and lot of muslim Countries? How your husband wasnt excuted for not being Muslim living in a Muslim country?

Because Muslims got there asses kicked and started to behave themselves.

Muslims were the US of the old day and they controlled much of the old world....nothing wouldve stopped them from cleansing other religions...but didn't.

They sure did it is an eternal obligation. That they have not finished the job is proven daily.

Not True, Muslim countries have had minorities for centuries none went to extinsion....tell that to the natives of this land along with all the lands that got conquered by the Christian armies.

They got pretty close. You do understand that taxing and abusing minorities is part of Islam.

And if I remember right Muhammad had every man of one Jewish tribe killed.

 

[Issa]

If Muslims were as bad as you say....what did stop them from just killing every living non muslim in the parts they ruled for centuries? why would the Jews run to Muslim countries when they were executed and kicked out of Europe? Why would still be christians, Jews, Chruches and Synagogues and lot of muslim Countries? How your husband wasnt excuted for not being Muslim living in a Muslim country?

Because Muslims got there asses kicked and started to behave themselves.

Muslims were the US of the old day and they controlled much of the old world....nothing wouldve stopped them from cleansing other religions...but didn't.

They sure did it is an eternal obligation. That they have not finished the job is proven daily.

Not True, Muslim countries have had minorities for centuries none went to extinsion....tell that to the natives of this land along with all the lands that got conquered by the Christian armies.

They got pretty close. You do understand that taxing and abusing minorities is part of Islam.

And if I remember right Muhammad had every man of one Jewish tribe killed.

If you remember? ...with all due respect this is not how you carry a debate. You either know the facts and the historic event or you don't.
Some Jews that betrayed their own people and helped the enemy after they signed a treaty were given the capital punishment like many countries still do till now days. Other than the prophet ordered us to. E kind to them with respect and dignity, that's why they were living in Muslim countries for centuries and weren't welcome in Christian societies and later on excuted by the Germans and the Russians and are stereotyped and hate by many here in the US.

I'm humble to say that both my best man was Jewish and some of my very close friends are Jews.

 

[Lastamender]

I'm humble to say that both my best man was Jewish and some of my very close friends are Jews.

This is not about individuals. This is about what Islam says, not how you feel.

 

[irosie91]

Because Muslims got there asses kicked and started to behave themselves.

Muslims were the US of the old day and they controlled much of the old world....nothing wouldve stopped them from cleansing other religions...but didn't.

They sure did it is an eternal obligation. That they have not finished the job is proven daily.

Not True, Muslim countries have had minorities for centuries none went to extinsion....tell that to the natives of this land along with all the lands that got conquered by the Christian armies.

They got pretty close. You do understand that taxing and abusing minorities is part of Islam.

And if I remember right Muhammad had every man of one Jewish tribe killed.

If you remember? ...with all due respect this is not how you carry a debate. You either know the facts and the historic event or you don't.
Some Jews that betrayed their own people and helped the enemy after they signed a treaty were given the capital punishment like many countries still do till now days. Other than the prophet ordered us to. E kind to them with respect and dignity, that's why they were living in Muslim countries for centuries and weren't welcome in Christian societies and later on excuted by the Germans and the Russians and are stereotyped and hate by many here in the US.

I'm humble to say that both my best man was Jewish and some of my very close friends are Jews.

Because Muslims got there asses kicked and started to behave themselves.

Muslims were the US of the old day and they controlled much of the old world....nothing wouldve stopped them from cleansing other religions...but didn't.

They sure did it is an eternal obligation. That they have not finished the job is proven daily.

Not True, Muslim countries have had minorities for centuries none went to extinsion....tell that to the natives of this land along with all the lands that got conquered by the Christian armies.

They got pretty close. You do understand that taxing and abusing minorities is part of Islam.

And if I remember right Muhammad had every man of one Jewish tribe killed.

If you remember? ...with all due respect this is not how you carry a debate. You either know the facts and the historic event or you don't.
Some Jews that betrayed their own people and helped the enemy after they signed a treaty were given the capital punishment like many countries still do till now days. Other than the prophet ordered us to. E kind to them with respect and dignity, that's why they were living in Muslim countries for centuries and weren't welcome in Christian societies and later on excuted by the Germans and the Russians and are stereotyped and hate by many here in the US.

I'm humble to say that both my best man was Jewish and some of my very close friends are Jews.

Issa your post makes no sense. You accuse a fellow poster of "not knowing the facts"----but do not PRESENT THOSE "FACTs" (ie the shit the local imam pig told you during the weekly khutbah jumaat feces fling) You presented the typical Islamic shit libel ----which is nothing more than ANYONE WHO DOES NOT LICK THE SHIT OFF THE ASS OF MUHUMMAD must die-------and it is good because it delights the muslimah sluts and muslims get to rape lots of kaffiring to the delight of "allah". I agree-----a PACT OF OMAR type document should be imposed on muslims----in ALL non muslim majority country-----and after th that muslim children should be enslaved and raped------it is THE WILL OF ALLAH