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Should the "Ride the Duck" vehicles be taken off the road?

After the death of five people as a result of an amphibious vehicle colliding with a charter bus, should we consider removing the vehicle off crowded public streets?

The accident happened on the narrow Aurora bridge in the north part of Seattle, WA.

The mere style of the Duck makes it tough to drive, tough to maneuver, has many blind spots. The shape and weight of the Duck makes it a dangerous object if in a collision as seen be the result of the charter bus.

I am sure lawsuits will follow as information is released. The sad thing is the motorcoach company, who has an impeccable safety record, is probably going to be sued, along with the college, the motorcoach manufacturer, the Duck, and the two drivers.

5th crash victim dies; NTSB says Duck did not receive recommended safety fix

What say you?

I say you haven't proven your case.

The article points to a safety fix that wasn't done on this DUKW. You haven't provided any facts to support any of your claims- perhaps you are right - but why should we assume that you are?

They are very old vehicles and perhaps they shouldn't be on the road- on the other hand- this is the first accident I have heard of with one of them- and there are a surprising number of them still in use.

What is my case, I am asking the question. Please don't assume I want the Duck banned, many of us in the trucking industry have been discussing the accident and trying to learn on how to prevent these types of accidents. I'm not sure I wouldn't like the motorcoach or the duck go across the Aurora bridge.

They refurbished the Ducks in 2005.

The Duck is difficult to drive but there is extensive training involved. Blind spots are a concern with many large vehicles, the Duck is no different. The motorcoach has blind spots, even with the mirror set ups, there are blind spots. It's a fact of life.
The entire front end of that duck is a blind spot and yes it was designed to go over things and KNOWING that bridge VERY well it would have crawled over the walk rail with NO problem.

If you drive truck all you have to is look at the nose on the duck. The blind spot is BIGGER then you would have on a Kenworth.
 
After the death of five people as a result of an amphibious vehicle colliding with a charter bus, should we consider removing the vehicle off crowded public streets?

The accident happened on the narrow Aurora bridge in the north part of Seattle, WA.

The mere style of the Duck makes it tough to drive, tough to maneuver, has many blind spots. The shape and weight of the Duck makes it a dangerous object if in a collision as seen be the result of the charter bus.

I am sure lawsuits will follow as information is released. The sad thing is the motorcoach company, who has an impeccable safety record, is probably going to be sued, along with the college, the motorcoach manufacturer, the Duck, and the two drivers.

5th crash victim dies; NTSB says Duck did not receive recommended safety fix

What say you?

I say you haven't proven your case.

The article points to a safety fix that wasn't done on this DUKW. You haven't provided any facts to support any of your claims- perhaps you are right - but why should we assume that you are?

They are very old vehicles and perhaps they shouldn't be on the road- on the other hand- this is the first accident I have heard of with one of them- and there are a surprising number of them still in use.

What is my case, I am asking the question. Please don't assume I want the Duck banned, many of us in the trucking industry have been discussing the accident and trying to learn on how to prevent these types of accidents. I'm not sure I wouldn't like the motorcoach or the duck go across the Aurora bridge.

They refurbished the Ducks in 2005.

The Duck is difficult to drive but there is extensive training involved. Blind spots are a concern with many large vehicles, the Duck is no different. The motorcoach has blind spots, even with the mirror set ups, there are blind spots. It's a fact of life.
The entire front end of that duck is a blind spot and yes it was designed to go over things and KNOWING that bridge VERY well it would have crawled over the walk rail with NO problem.

If you drive truck all you have to is look at the nose on the duck. The blind spot is BIGGER then you would have on a Kenworth.

That's what I was thinking. I'm wondering had the motorcoach not been there and with the front end of the Duck, could it have gone over the sidewalk rail and on over the bridge?
 
After the death of five people as a result of an amphibious vehicle colliding with a charter bus, should we consider removing the vehicle off crowded public streets?

The accident happened on the narrow Aurora bridge in the north part of Seattle, WA.

The mere style of the Duck makes it tough to drive, tough to maneuver, has many blind spots. The shape and weight of the Duck makes it a dangerous object if in a collision as seen be the result of the charter bus.

I am sure lawsuits will follow as information is released. The sad thing is the motorcoach company, who has an impeccable safety record, is probably going to be sued, along with the college, the motorcoach manufacturer, the Duck, and the two drivers.

5th crash victim dies; NTSB says Duck did not receive recommended safety fix

What say you?

I say you haven't proven your case.

The article points to a safety fix that wasn't done on this DUKW. You haven't provided any facts to support any of your claims- perhaps you are right - but why should we assume that you are?

They are very old vehicles and perhaps they shouldn't be on the road- on the other hand- this is the first accident I have heard of with one of them- and there are a surprising number of them still in use.

What is my case, I am asking the question. Please don't assume I want the Duck banned, many of us in the trucking industry have been discussing the accident and trying to learn on how to prevent these types of accidents. I'm not sure I wouldn't like the motorcoach or the duck go across the Aurora bridge.

They refurbished the Ducks in 2005.

The Duck is difficult to drive but there is extensive training involved. Blind spots are a concern with many large vehicles, the Duck is no different. The motorcoach has blind spots, even with the mirror set ups, there are blind spots. It's a fact of life.
The entire front end of that duck is a blind spot and yes it was designed to go over things and KNOWING that bridge VERY well it would have crawled over the walk rail with NO problem.

If you drive truck all you have to is look at the nose on the duck. The blind spot is BIGGER then you would have on a Kenworth.

That's what I was thinking. I'm wondering had the motorcoach not been there and with the front end of the Duck, could it have gone over the sidewalk rail and on over the bridge?
I think so if not the ability to go over it as it WAS designed to go over logs then the ability to go through it because its damn heavy.

Take a look at the driver placement for the road as well. That spot sucks but have submerged? it's a barge with a pilot house.
And I KNOW that bridge. Those rails are about 38 inches tall.

The guard rail for cars is about 18 inches off the ground I had a buddy side swipe it while I was riding with him. The nose of that duck is not only higher its long enough to go from the guard rail over the outside rail without touching the guard rail.

Like I said if not design then weight and the military stats would have that.
 
I never even knew about the things until the accident. The news this morning says an update to the axle was recommended but not done on that particular vehicle. I honestly don't see the fascination, just take a bus to a boat, problem solved.
 
I worked as a tour guide on the ducks in NY years ago. I felt no more in danger than on any other form of transportation.

I would feel safe in a Duck, not sure I'd feel the same if the one hit me. :)

That said, did you drive one? The report a former driver said it was a difficult rig to drive. He also said they were trained very well before they were allowed to drive them on the streets.

I would feel safe in a Semi tractor, ot sure I'd feel the same if one hit me.

Doesn't make a Semi tractor inherently unsafe.
 
The duck bus in the accident was safety checked and certified last year and this year as well. This must have been an isolated incident, although I did see coverage about an axel that came off being examined the concern was at what point did the axel separate--before impact or a result thereof.

The UTC inspected them in 2012. The Coast Guard requires an inspection every year.

The axel shearing seems to coincide with the reports of witnesses that said it appeared that something happened to the Duck bus just before it turned into the bus.

It could be pure metal fatigue- that is an old vehicle- I don't know if there is any way to detect metal fatigue- on planes I think they just replace the pieces after a certain amount of hours- the DUKWs? Probably not.
 
That accident was horrible. I dont want to see them taken away completely. The Ducks are a fun part of the city.
I dont see how they are any worse than city busses... especially double decker busses. Everything driving/walking downtown is an accident waiting to happen.

No one is sure if they knew about the recomended safety fix (axle casing repair?)
Obviously for now they all need to be taken off the road. I just hope its not for good.
 
My guess is they'll soon be gone from public streets. With critics now citing their dangers, I think insurance companies will be afraid to touch these vehicles with a 10 foot pole.
 
My guess is they'll soon be gone from public streets. With critics now citing their dangers, I think insurance companies will be afraid to touch these vehicles with a 10 foot pole.

I know a couple people who said the exact same thing. its a possibility.
 

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