Should U.S. Demand Israel Sign The Chemical Weapons Treaty?

[ClosedCaption]

Why should Israel sign the treaty? Have they used chemical weapons lately?

They used 'White Phosphorus' bombs on Palestinians in Gaza a few years back.

That was propaganda from Hitler lovers

 

[Edgetho]

Israel is one of the few Nations that hasn't ratified the Chemical Weapons Convention. In light of threatening War with Syria over this issue, is it time for the U.S. to get Israel on board?

No sir.

The reason the powers that be concocted the story about children being gassed is because they want to help the Zionists.

Also the Zionists control major media outlets which is the reason the newscasts all encourage war with Syria.

The OP chose his words carefully. Israel hasn't "Ratified" the treaty. But they did sign it.

90% of the treaties we sign are called "Executive Agreements" and are binding in International Law.

The use of the word 'treaty' or 'Executive Agreement' is for internal domestic use only.

They are still binding in International Law regardless of what we call them. Period.

U.S. Senate: Art & History Home > Origins & Development > Powers & Procedures > Treaties

Executive Agreements

In addition to treaties, which may not enter into force and become binding on the United States without the advice and consent of the Senate, there are other types of international agreements concluded by the executive branch and not submitted to the Senate. These are classified in the United States as executive agreements, not as treaties, a distinction that has only domestic significance. International law regards each mode of international agreement as binding, whatever its designation under domestic law.

The challenge of obtaining two-thirds vote on treaties was one of the motivating forces behind the vast increase in executive agreements after World War II. In 1952, for instance, the United States signed 14 treaties and 291 executive agreements. This was a larger number of executive agreements than had been reached during the entire century of 1789 to 1889. Executive agreements continue to grow at a rapid rate.

In recent years, the growth in executive agreements is also attributable to the sheer volume of business conducted between the United States and other countries, coupled with the already heavy workload of the Senate. Many international agreements are of relatively minor importance and would needlessly overburden the Senate if they were submitted as treaties for advice and consent

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

Why should Israel sign the treaty? Have they used chemical weapons lately?

They used 'White Phosphorus' bombs on Palestinians in Gaza a few years back.

That was propaganda from Hitler lovers

Based on what?

 

[R.C. Christian]

About half of our own treaty signings aren't ratified in the Senate anymore.

They're still enforceable.

And why the hell would Israel bother with Chemical Weapons when they have nukes?

What's wrong with you people? The only reason we signed it was symbolic and to encourage other Countries to sign it.

Chemical Weapons are for people who don't have Tactical Nukes. We do. So does Israel

Yep, a deterrent for a nuclear strike.

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

Why should Israel sign the treaty? Have they used chemical weapons lately?

They used 'White Phosphorus' bombs on Palestinians in Gaza a few years back.

That was propaganda from Hitler lovers

 

[ClosedCaption]

They used 'White Phosphorus' bombs on Palestinians in Gaza a few years back.

That was propaganda from Hitler lovers

Based on what?

Based on your love for Satan

 

[paulitician]

I think our Government does owe an explanation on this. Why have they been so quiet on Israel not signing onto it? I'd be interested in hearing their explanation.

 

[ClosedCaption]

I think our Government does owe an explanation on this. Why have they been so quiet on Israel not signing onto it? I'd be interested in hearing their explanation.

Because Jesus....something something something Leave Israel alone blah blah

 

[paulitician]

Not many voting on this. But so far it does look like most want our Government to push Israel to sign the Chemical Weapons Treaty.

 

[Missourian]

Like Syria, it's not our business.

 

[Missourian]

Not many voting on this. But so far it does look like most want our Government to push Israel to sign the Chemical Weapons Treaty.

4 to 3...that's quite a mandate you have there.

 

[kaz]

Israel is one of the few Nations that hasn't ratified the Chemical Weapons Convention. In light of threatening War with Syria over this issue, is it time for the U.S. to get Israel on board?

No.

1) The chemical weapons treaty is stupid. It's a waste of time like the Geneva conventions because the only ones who follow it are the ones who would follow it anyway.

2) Our government has no moral authority to dictate to other countries matters that are unrelated to our defense.

3) Anything Israel does is going to just be another potential tool for their enemies.

 

[rhodescholar]

There is a principle in international law that says some conduct becomes so expected of nations that it becomes binding on nations, whether or not nations have signed treaties agreeing to be bound by such laws. Considering that the use of chemical weapons is outlawed by the Geneva Convention, which is one of those types of laws likely binding on all, the Chemical Weapons Treaty, that bans nations maintaining stores of chemical weapons, may also fall in that category. But we do not have an Opinion by an Intl Court on these issues.

How about shutting the fuck up asshole, and never posting again, you worthless filth? Racist, jew-hating piece of shit.

 

[kaz]

About half of our own treaty signings aren't ratified in the Senate anymore.

They're still enforceable.

And why the hell would Israel bother with Chemical Weapons when they have nukes?

What's wrong with you people? The only reason we signed it was symbolic and to encourage other Countries to sign it.

Chemical Weapons are for people who don't have Tactical Nukes. We do. So does Israel

I hear ya, but Israel is one of our closest allies. It looks a bit dishonest & hypocritical on our part. That being said, i voted No. Not our role to demand such things.

Why would a Ron Paul supporter advocate activist government action coercing another government because of how we look in the international leftist community? And BTW, the international left community wants the destruction of Israel, so in what possible universe is this going to help anyone?

 

[paulitician]

About half of our own treaty signings aren't ratified in the Senate anymore.

They're still enforceable.

And why the hell would Israel bother with Chemical Weapons when they have nukes?

What's wrong with you people? The only reason we signed it was symbolic and to encourage other Countries to sign it.

Chemical Weapons are for people who don't have Tactical Nukes. We do. So does Israel

I hear ya, but Israel is one of our closest allies. It looks a bit dishonest & hypocritical on our part. That being said, i voted No. Not our role to demand such things.

Why would a Ron Paul supporter advocate activist government action coercing another government because of how we look in the international leftist community? And BTW, the international left community wants the destruction of Israel, so in what possible universe is this going to help anyone?

I voted No.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

No, because the U.S. shouldn't be demanding that anybody sign any treaty, especially when they have signed the treaty and are in direct violation of it.

 

[Hoffstra]

simply possessing chemical weapons should be a war crime.

 

[Desperado]

It would be highly hypocritical of us not to demand Israel sign the treaty.
However the US has ignored that Israel never signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, so realistically there is no chance of the US even broaching the subject!

 

[numan]

Why should Israel sign the treaty? Have they used chemical weapons lately?

Unlike the United States, which HAS used poison gas and chemical weapons?

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[freedombecki]

Link, please.