Six major unions beg the Senate to stop EPA coal regulations

[Jroc]

You're quite the pathetic fool. Which ones AREN'T?

I tend not to respond to clowns unless they actually say something worth responding to... Which is a rare occasion

 

[william the wie]

Clownophobic?

 

[Jroc]

Clownophobic?

Extreme stupidity scares me

 

[g5000]

More Co2 means a greener planet. I think the green movement should be renamed because they certainly aren't for a greener planet

Does being that stupid hurt much?

If trends continue as per current predictions, the continued drought in California will have serious impacts to forage production in 2014, affecting the availability and price of animal feed.

It’s like an 800-pound gorilla in the room, worrying everyone including growers, suppliers, livestock operators and consumers alike. According to the Western Regional Climate Center, October-December of 2013 was the driest on record in California. Other western states are also experiencing drought to varying degrees (note the U.S. Drought monitor map for the west below). Current predictions are for zero to slight chances of rainfall for the rest of January for most of California.

California Alfalfa: Drought Will Affect Producers, Markets For Years To Come

 

[g5000]

 

[g5000]

Federal officials have designated portions of 11 drought-ridden western and central states as primary natural disaster areas, highlighting the financial strain the lack of rain is likely to bring to farmers in those regions.

The announcement by the U.S. Department of Agriculture on Wednesday included counties in Texas -- as well as Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada, Kansas, Utah, Arkansas, Hawaii, Idaho, Oklahoma and California.

Drought Prompts Disaster Declarations in Texas, 11 States | NBC 5 Dallas-Fort Worth

 

[Jroc]

Are droughts a new phenomenon you idiot?

 

[william the wie]

Sorghum will grow in areas that make the central valley look like a rain forest. Instead rice and other water intensive crops such as salad vegetables are grown by means of irrigation.

 

[Jroc]

Satellites confirm that green vegetation is increasing

The greening of the planet*-*Matt Ridley

Positive Effect of Increased Atmospheric CO2: More Green Desert Plants - The Green Optimistic

CO2 Is Greening The Planet: African Savannahs Getting a Makeover to Forests

Memo to Doubters?I was Tempted to say ?Deniers??CO2 is Plant Food! | Watts Up With That?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Wow! Texas had no droughts before we released CO2.

 

[Vox]

Based on the data coming out China...Coal is probably the main cause of Cancer. Do you realize that cancer is the single deadliest disease we Americans deal with?

Yes sir, Let's ban coal.

Not true.

absolutely NOT true.

and coal has THE LEAST to do with the cancer people are dealing with.

 

[Jroc]

Based on the data coming out China...Coal is probably the main cause of Cancer. Do you realize that cancer is the single deadliest disease we Americans deal with?

Yes sir, Let's ban coal.

Not true.

absolutely NOT true.

and coal has THE LEAST to do with the cancer people are dealing with.

Of course it isn't true...Makes a good talking point though

 

[Mr. H.]

So, our regulations keep even coal emissions in check. Coal supplies nearly 40% of our electricity. The EPA proposals will effectively reduce that to zero.

Nope.

Do the math, Matt.

Making shit up =/= "math".

 

[FA_Q2]

Know it'll suck for the miner community, their families, and their communities, but the sooner we make coal unprofitable and more trouble than its worth, the better off everyone else will be.

Because….

You have nothing. You can’t simply ‘get rid’ of coal – you need to replace it. As nuclear is not an option and green energy simply cannot do it you essentially have no plan at all. We ban coal and we end up going back to the Stone Age. It is a fucking terrible idea.

Love you nuclear. Lets invest into fusion.

Nuclear is off limits. The environmentalists closed that industry down in the Carter administration. It is a good idea, though.

Guess again a new nuke plant is being built in south Carolina
About time

ONE PLANT! Really! I guess nuclear energy is rapidly growing then to replace coal….

Wait.

No, of course not. It IS untouchable because the environmentalists have gone completely nuts. Rather than looking for reasonable and practical solutions, they support nothing but green energies which CANNOT take the place of coal considering they are not consistent forms of energy. They are supplementary. Good to have yes but you can’t build an entire system on them.

Nuclear is the best we have and we should be utilizing it FAR more. Unfortunately, the rules are written by people that don’t bother to understand what they are regulating or what would be the best course of action.

 

[hazlnut]

I guess the unions should have thought of this before supporting Obama in the first place

Dear Chairman Wyden and Ranking Member Murkowski:

During promulgation of the Environmental Protection Agency’s (EPAs) Mercury and Air Toxic Standards (MATS) rule, our unions consistently raised concerns regarding the short timeframe available for compliance and the devastating effects on jobs, especially good-paying middle-class employment in the coal-fired electricity generation sector. During the rulemaking process our unions stated for the record that MATS and its short compliance timeline would result in the closing of 56 Gigawatts of coal-fired generation and the loss of approximately 250,000 jobs. Despite assurances by EPA to the contrary, our prediction is now coming to pass.

As the deadline for compliance with MATS approaches, we are increasingly concerned with the effect of a short compliance timeline as hundreds of coal generating units retire and are permanently removed from service. Our concerns are compounded by the reduction in utility revenues from existing generation, increased reliance on demand response, and from unregulated distributed generation. These reduced revenues may increase the number of coal – and possibly nuclear – plant retirements as available income will not justify maintaining and/or retrofitting the remaining plants. Needless to say, the more plants that retire, the more jobs will be lost. In addition, as these plants retire, sufficient generation assets to meet demand become questionable, as witnessed by the astronomical electric price spikes during the recent polar vortex.

With these concerns in mind, we respectfully request the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee to hold a hearing on the effects of MATS on the regional transmission organization (RTO) markets and their preparedness for generation retirements in the 2015-2017 timeframe. A hearing would be timely and beneficial. Please contact Jim Hunter at (202) 728-6065 or via email at [email protected] if you or your staff would like to discuss these matters further. Thank you for considering our request and we hope to hear from you soon.

Sincerely,

Newton B. Jones

International President

International Brotherhood of Boilermakers, Iron Ship Builders, Blacksmiths, Forgers and Helpers



Edwin D. Hill

International President

International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers



Robert A. Scardelletti

International President

Transportation Communications Union/IAM



John Previsich

President

SMART Transportation Division



Cecil E. Roberts, Jr.

International President

United Mine Workers of America



D. Michael Langford

Utility Workers Union of America

Six Unions Call for Senate Hearing on EPA Coal Regulations ? Wyoming Energy News

Too bad.

Learn a new trade.


BTW -- this is very small number of people.

Coal is so early-20th century.

 

[Papageorgio]

I guess the unions should have thought of this before supporting Obama in the first place

Dear Chairman Wyden and Ranking Member Murkowski:

During promulgation of the Environmental Protection Agency’s (EPAs) Mercury and Air Toxic Standards (MATS) rule, our unions consistently raised concerns regarding the short timeframe available for compliance and the devastating effects on jobs, especially good-paying middle-class employment in the coal-fired electricity generation sector. During the rulemaking process our unions stated for the record that MATS and its short compliance timeline would result in the closing of 56 Gigawatts of coal-fired generation and the loss of approximately 250,000 jobs. Despite assurances by EPA to the contrary, our prediction is now coming to pass.

As the deadline for compliance with MATS approaches, we are increasingly concerned with the effect of a short compliance timeline as hundreds of coal generating units retire and are permanently removed from service. Our concerns are compounded by the reduction in utility revenues from existing generation, increased reliance on demand response, and from unregulated distributed generation. These reduced revenues may increase the number of coal – and possibly nuclear – plant retirements as available income will not justify maintaining and/or retrofitting the remaining plants. Needless to say, the more plants that retire, the more jobs will be lost. In addition, as these plants retire, sufficient generation assets to meet demand become questionable, as witnessed by the astronomical electric price spikes during the recent polar vortex.

With these concerns in mind, we respectfully request the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee to hold a hearing on the effects of MATS on the regional transmission organization (RTO) markets and their preparedness for generation retirements in the 2015-2017 timeframe. A hearing would be timely and beneficial. Please contact Jim Hunter at (202) 728-6065 or via email at [email protected] if you or your staff would like to discuss these matters further. Thank you for considering our request and we hope to hear from you soon.

Sincerely,

Newton B. Jones

International President

International Brotherhood of Boilermakers, Iron Ship Builders, Blacksmiths, Forgers and Helpers



Edwin D. Hill

International President

International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers



Robert A. Scardelletti

International President

Transportation Communications Union/IAM



John Previsich

President

SMART Transportation Division



Cecil E. Roberts, Jr.

International President

United Mine Workers of America



D. Michael Langford

Utility Workers Union of America

Six Unions Call for Senate Hearing on EPA Coal Regulations ? Wyoming Energy News

Too bad.

Learn a new trade.


BTW -- this is very small number of people.

Coal is so early-20th century.

Thank you for giving the unions a big fuck you! You also realize the auto union creates cars that pollute the air, you want them to shut down also, cuz we could really do with out those union polluters. Right?

 

[Jroc]

I guess the unions should have thought of this before supporting Obama in the first place

Dear Chairman Wyden and Ranking Member Murkowski:

During promulgation of the Environmental Protection Agency’s (EPAs) Mercury and Air Toxic Standards (MATS) rule, our unions consistently raised concerns regarding the short timeframe available for compliance and the devastating effects on jobs, especially good-paying middle-class employment in the coal-fired electricity generation sector. During the rulemaking process our unions stated for the record that MATS and its short compliance timeline would result in the closing of 56 Gigawatts of coal-fired generation and the loss of approximately 250,000 jobs. Despite assurances by EPA to the contrary, our prediction is now coming to pass.

As the deadline for compliance with MATS approaches, we are increasingly concerned with the effect of a short compliance timeline as hundreds of coal generating units retire and are permanently removed from service. Our concerns are compounded by the reduction in utility revenues from existing generation, increased reliance on demand response, and from unregulated distributed generation. These reduced revenues may increase the number of coal – and possibly nuclear – plant retirements as available income will not justify maintaining and/or retrofitting the remaining plants. Needless to say, the more plants that retire, the more jobs will be lost. In addition, as these plants retire, sufficient generation assets to meet demand become questionable, as witnessed by the astronomical electric price spikes during the recent polar vortex.

With these concerns in mind, we respectfully request the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee to hold a hearing on the effects of MATS on the regional transmission organization (RTO) markets and their preparedness for generation retirements in the 2015-2017 timeframe. A hearing would be timely and beneficial. Please contact Jim Hunter at (202) 728-6065 or via email at [email protected] if you or your staff would like to discuss these matters further. Thank you for considering our request and we hope to hear from you soon.

Sincerely,

Newton B. Jones

International President

International Brotherhood of Boilermakers, Iron Ship Builders, Blacksmiths, Forgers and Helpers



Edwin D. Hill

International President

International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers



Robert A. Scardelletti

International President

Transportation Communications Union/IAM



John Previsich

President

SMART Transportation Division



Cecil E. Roberts, Jr.

International President

United Mine Workers of America



D. Michael Langford

Utility Workers Union of America

Six Unions Call for Senate Hearing on EPA Coal Regulations ? Wyoming Energy News

Too bad.

Learn a new trade.


BTW -- this is very small number of people.

Coal is so early-20th century.

We still get 40% of our power from coal genus. We transition as technology improves and new sources of energy are developed. Not because of some stupid government mandates it doesn't work that way

 

[Papageorgio]

I guess the unions should have thought of this before supporting Obama in the first place




Six Unions Call for Senate Hearing on EPA Coal Regulations ? Wyoming Energy News

Too bad.

Learn a new trade.


BTW -- this is very small number of people.

Coal is so early-20th century.

We still get 40% of our power from coal genus. We transition as technology improves and new sources of energy are developed. Not because of some stupid government mandates it doesn't work that way

He doesn't care. He only cares about political correctness. As long as he has energy to live his life, as long as he isn't inconvenienced in his way of life, as long as it's not his livelihood in danger, then he and his ilk don't really care.

 

[bripat9643]

I guess the unions should have thought of this before supporting Obama in the first place

Dear Chairman Wyden and Ranking Member Murkowski:

During promulgation of the Environmental Protection Agency’s (EPAs) Mercury and Air Toxic Standards (MATS) rule, our unions consistently raised concerns regarding the short timeframe available for compliance and the devastating effects on jobs, especially good-paying middle-class employment in the coal-fired electricity generation sector. During the rulemaking process our unions stated for the record that MATS and its short compliance timeline would result in the closing of 56 Gigawatts of coal-fired generation and the loss of approximately 250,000 jobs. Despite assurances by EPA to the contrary, our prediction is now coming to pass.

As the deadline for compliance with MATS approaches, we are increasingly concerned with the effect of a short compliance timeline as hundreds of coal generating units retire and are permanently removed from service. Our concerns are compounded by the reduction in utility revenues from existing generation, increased reliance on demand response, and from unregulated distributed generation. These reduced revenues may increase the number of coal – and possibly nuclear – plant retirements as available income will not justify maintaining and/or retrofitting the remaining plants. Needless to say, the more plants that retire, the more jobs will be lost. In addition, as these plants retire, sufficient generation assets to meet demand become questionable, as witnessed by the astronomical electric price spikes during the recent polar vortex.

With these concerns in mind, we respectfully request the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee to hold a hearing on the effects of MATS on the regional transmission organization (RTO) markets and their preparedness for generation retirements in the 2015-2017 timeframe. A hearing would be timely and beneficial. Please contact Jim Hunter at (202) 728-6065 or via email at [email protected] if you or your staff would like to discuss these matters further. Thank you for considering our request and we hope to hear from you soon.

Sincerely,

Newton B. Jones

International President

International Brotherhood of Boilermakers, Iron Ship Builders, Blacksmiths, Forgers and Helpers



Edwin D. Hill

International President

International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers



Robert A. Scardelletti

International President

Transportation Communications Union/IAM



John Previsich

President

SMART Transportation Division



Cecil E. Roberts, Jr.

International President

United Mine Workers of America



D. Michael Langford

Utility Workers Union of America

Six Unions Call for Senate Hearing on EPA Coal Regulations ? Wyoming Energy News

Too bad.

Learn a new trade.


BTW -- this is very small number of people.

Coal is so early-20th century.

ROFL! If a Republican was in office and some teachers were getting laid off, what would a scumbag like you say? "Too bad. learn a new trade?" We all know we would be treated to news reports of all the poor suffering teachers and their suffering students 24 X 7.

Remember during the Bush administration when the liberals complained that all the new jobs were "McJobs?" You don't see them complaining now, do you? That's because you're all a bunch of scathing hypocrites.

 

[bripat9643]

Know it'll suck for the miner community, their families, and their communities, but the sooner we make coal unprofitable and more trouble than its worth, the better off everyone else will be.

Because….

You have nothing. You can’t simply ‘get rid’ of coal – you need to replace it. As nuclear is not an option and green energy simply cannot do it you essentially have no plan at all. We ban coal and we end up going back to the Stone Age. It is a fucking terrible idea.

Nuclear is off limits. The environmentalists closed that industry down in the Carter administration. It is a good idea, though.

Guess again a new nuke plant is being built in south Carolina
About time

ONE PLANT! Really! I guess nuclear energy is rapidly growing then to replace coal….

Wait.

No, of course not. It IS untouchable because the environmentalists have gone completely nuts. Rather than looking for reasonable and practical solutions, they support nothing but green energies which CANNOT take the place of coal considering they are not consistent forms of energy. They are supplementary. Good to have yes but you can’t build an entire system on them.

Nuclear is the best we have and we should be utilizing it FAR more. Unfortunately, the rules are written by people that don’t bother to understand what they are regulating or what would be the best course of action.

I was just reading about a new kind of nuclear power plant that is 75 times more efficient, in terms of the uranium it uses, than current reactors. If we converted all our power plants to that type, we'd have enough uranium to power the entire earth for 4000 years. It also produces far less eradicative waste then current reactors.