So Dems; If Hillary Wins...

Who are you going to blame for your continued personal failures, lack of success, and social injustice overall?
Obama?

Obama created over 10 million private sector jobs

And each of those employees, who are mostly illegal invaders, is now screaming for $15.00 per hour.

What they'd say is, if the illegal immigrants aren't paid, then they'll resort to criminal activity.

Who is they?

In general Leftists and the pro-illegal immigrants crowd.

You're not going to get many on the Right advocating paying illegal immigrants to do a job that a normal citizen of a nation could have instead.
 
Who are you going to blame for your continued personal failures, lack of success, and social injustice overall?
Obama?

Obama created over 10 million private sector jobs
We're number one on earth for natural gas and oil production.
His safetynet made it far easier for millions of Americans that would of otherwise suffered as their great grand parents did during the great depression.
Dow jones is over 18,000.

What kind of success do you have in mind? YOu do realize that the 19th century that you propose had only the super rich be the successful ones in most cases.

He did all that by himself?

There are still over 42 million on food stamps. Since that occurred during his presidency, are you going to blame him for it?

Did some checking on the numbers. When Bush had an unemployment rate of 4.9%, there were 27 million on food stamps. When Obama has the same rate of 4.9%, there are 42 million on food stamps. What's wrong. The black can't do any better than that?

"There are still over 42 million on food stamps."

In 2016 it's surely a disgrace and something to be ashamed about that so many people haven't the ability to feed themselves and their family.

In 2016 there shouldn't have to be food stamps, food banks, soup kitchens etc, that there is, this says that something is fundamentally wrong that so many people are failing in society.

Yep, and the cause is conservatism!

How can the cause be Conservatism?

The amount of Americans on food stamps was 27 million when GWB was President.

The amount of Americans on food stamps is now 42 million and you've had Obama as President since 2009. So during the Obama Presidency the number has nearly doubled.

Raw numbers do not tell the entire story ("there are lies, damn lies and statistics). BTW post a link to your numbers.
 
Obama created over 10 million private sector jobs
We're number one on earth for natural gas and oil production.
His safetynet made it far easier for millions of Americans that would of otherwise suffered as their great grand parents did during the great depression.
Dow jones is over 18,000.

What kind of success do you have in mind? YOu do realize that the 19th century that you propose had only the super rich be the successful ones in most cases.

He did all that by himself?

There are still over 42 million on food stamps. Since that occurred during his presidency, are you going to blame him for it?

Did some checking on the numbers. When Bush had an unemployment rate of 4.9%, there were 27 million on food stamps. When Obama has the same rate of 4.9%, there are 42 million on food stamps. What's wrong. The black can't do any better than that?

"There are still over 42 million on food stamps."

In 2016 it's surely a disgrace and something to be ashamed about that so many people haven't the ability to feed themselves and their family.

In 2016 there shouldn't have to be food stamps, food banks, soup kitchens etc, that there is, this says that something is fundamentally wrong that so many people are failing in society.

Yep, and the cause is conservatism!

How can the cause be Conservatism?

The amount of Americans on food stamps was 27 million when GWB was President.

The amount of Americans on food stamps is now 42 million and you've had Obama as President since 2009. So during the Obama Presidency the number has nearly doubled.

Raw numbers do not tell the entire story ("there are lies, damn lies and statistics). BTW post a link to your numbers.

I'm using the numbers that Conservative65 is using, he said he'd done research on the figures, see his post # 48.
 
Who are you going to blame for your continued personal failures, lack of success, and social injustice overall?
Obama?

Obama created over 10 million private sector jobs
We're number one on earth for natural gas and oil production.
His safetynet made it far easier for millions of Americans that would of otherwise suffered as their great grand parents did during the great depression.
Dow jones is over 18,000.

What kind of success do you have in mind? YOu do realize that the 19th century that you propose had only the super rich be the successful ones in most cases.

He did all that by himself?

There are still over 42 million on food stamps. Since that occurred during his presidency, are you going to blame him for it?

Did some checking on the numbers. When Bush had an unemployment rate of 4.9%, there were 27 million on food stamps. When Obama has the same rate of 4.9%, there are 42 million on food stamps. What's wrong. The black can't do any better than that?

"There are still over 42 million on food stamps."

In 2016 it's surely a disgrace and something to be ashamed about that so many people haven't the ability to feed themselves and their family.

In 2016 there shouldn't have to be food stamps, food banks, soup kitchens etc, that there is, this says that something is fundamentally wrong that so many people are failing in society.

What makes it worse is that Obama claims the unemployment rate is down. If more people are working, why are so many more, a 55% higher number than when Bush had the same unemployment rate, receiving them?
 
Who are you going to blame for your continued personal failures, lack of success, and social injustice overall?
Obama?

Why do you think anything will change? They will continue to blame anyone other than themselves.
 
Who are you going to blame for your continued personal failures, lack of success, and social injustice overall?
Obama?

Obama created over 10 million private sector jobs

And each of those employees, who are mostly illegal invaders, is now screaming for $15.00 per hour.

What they'd say is, if the illegal immigrants aren't paid, then they'll resort to criminal activity.

Who is they?

In general Leftists and the pro-illegal immigrants crowd.

You're not going to get many on the Right advocating paying illegal immigrants to do a job that a normal citizen of a nation could have instead.

Post the evidence to support claim 1

Claim 2 is silly.
 
Who are you going to blame for your continued personal failures, lack of success, and social injustice overall?
Obama?

Obama created over 10 million private sector jobs

And each of those employees, who are mostly illegal invaders, is now screaming for $15.00 per hour.

What they'd say is, if the illegal immigrants aren't paid, then they'll resort to criminal activity.

There are two remedies for that.
 
Who are you going to blame for your continued personal failures, lack of success, and social injustice overall?
Obama?

Obama created over 10 million private sector jobs
We're number one on earth for natural gas and oil production.
His safetynet made it far easier for millions of Americans that would of otherwise suffered as their great grand parents did during the great depression.
Dow jones is over 18,000.

What kind of success do you have in mind? YOu do realize that the 19th century that you propose had only the super rich be the successful ones in most cases.

He did all that by himself?

There are still over 42 million on food stamps. Since that occurred during his presidency, are you going to blame him for it?

Did some checking on the numbers. When Bush had an unemployment rate of 4.9%, there were 27 million on food stamps. When Obama has the same rate of 4.9%, there are 42 million on food stamps. What's wrong. The black can't do any better than that?

"There are still over 42 million on food stamps."

In 2016 it's surely a disgrace and something to be ashamed about that so many people haven't the ability to feed themselves and their family.

In 2016 there shouldn't have to be food stamps, food banks, soup kitchens etc, that there is, this says that something is fundamentally wrong that so many people are failing in society.

What makes it worse is that Obama claims the unemployment rate is down. If more people are working, why are so many more, a 55% higher number than when Bush had the same unemployment rate, receiving them?

Possibly because many of those jobs are low paying? If they were paying a reasonable wage, there wouldn't be any need for people to have to get food stamps.
 
Obama created over 10 million private sector jobs

And each of those employees, who are mostly illegal invaders, is now screaming for $15.00 per hour.

What they'd say is, if the illegal immigrants aren't paid, then they'll resort to criminal activity.

Who is they?

In general Leftists and the pro-illegal immigrants crowd.

You're not going to get many on the Right advocating paying illegal immigrants to do a job that a normal citizen of a nation could have instead.

Post the evidence to support claim 1

Claim 2 is silly.

The second isn't silly, you aren't going to get many on the Right advocating paying illegal immigrants to do a job that a normal citizen of a nation could have instead. This is because many on the Right don't want illegal immigrants in our nations to begin with.

Many of the Leftists support an Amnesty for illegal immigrants and making illegal immigrants legal, which is a ridiculous policy.
 
Who are you going to blame for your continued personal failures, lack of success, and social injustice overall?
Obama?

Obama created over 10 million private sector jobs
We're number one on earth for natural gas and oil production.
His safetynet made it far easier for millions of Americans that would of otherwise suffered as their great grand parents did during the great depression.
Dow jones is over 18,000.

What kind of success do you have in mind? YOu do realize that the 19th century that you propose had only the super rich be the successful ones in most cases.

He did all that by himself?

There are still over 42 million on food stamps. Since that occurred during his presidency, are you going to blame him for it?

Did some checking on the numbers. When Bush had an unemployment rate of 4.9%, there were 27 million on food stamps. When Obama has the same rate of 4.9%, there are 42 million on food stamps. What's wrong. The black can't do any better than that?

"There are still over 42 million on food stamps."

In 2016 it's surely a disgrace and something to be ashamed about that so many people haven't the ability to feed themselves and their family.

In 2016 there shouldn't have to be food stamps, food banks, soup kitchens etc, that there is, this says that something is fundamentally wrong that so many people are failing in society.

What makes it worse is that Obama claims the unemployment rate is down. If more people are working, why are so many more, a 55% higher number than when Bush had the same unemployment rate, receiving them?

LOL Why blame Obama? The Right Wing controls The Congress, many State Houses and until Justice Scalia died the Supreme Court, are they not culpable?
 
Who are you going to blame for your continued personal failures, lack of success, and social injustice overall?
Obama?

Obama created over 10 million private sector jobs
We're number one on earth for natural gas and oil production.
His safetynet made it far easier for millions of Americans that would of otherwise suffered as their great grand parents did during the great depression.
Dow jones is over 18,000.

What kind of success do you have in mind? YOu do realize that the 19th century that you propose had only the super rich be the successful ones in most cases.

He did all that by himself?

There are still over 42 million on food stamps. Since that occurred during his presidency, are you going to blame him for it?

Did some checking on the numbers. When Bush had an unemployment rate of 4.9%, there were 27 million on food stamps. When Obama has the same rate of 4.9%, there are 42 million on food stamps. What's wrong. The black can't do any better than that?

"There are still over 42 million on food stamps."

In 2016 it's surely a disgrace and something to be ashamed about that so many people haven't the ability to feed themselves and their family.

In 2016 there shouldn't have to be food stamps, food banks, soup kitchens etc, that there is, this says that something is fundamentally wrong that so many people are failing in society.

What makes it worse is that Obama claims the unemployment rate is down. If more people are working, why are so many more, a 55% higher number than when Bush had the same unemployment rate, receiving them?

Possibly because many of those jobs are low paying? If they were paying a reasonable wage, there wouldn't be any need for people to have to get food stamps.

That's part of the problem. What solution do you propose?
 
Obama created over 10 million private sector jobs
We're number one on earth for natural gas and oil production.
His safetynet made it far easier for millions of Americans that would of otherwise suffered as their great grand parents did during the great depression.
Dow jones is over 18,000.

What kind of success do you have in mind? YOu do realize that the 19th century that you propose had only the super rich be the successful ones in most cases.

He did all that by himself?

There are still over 42 million on food stamps. Since that occurred during his presidency, are you going to blame him for it?

Did some checking on the numbers. When Bush had an unemployment rate of 4.9%, there were 27 million on food stamps. When Obama has the same rate of 4.9%, there are 42 million on food stamps. What's wrong. The black can't do any better than that?

"There are still over 42 million on food stamps."

In 2016 it's surely a disgrace and something to be ashamed about that so many people haven't the ability to feed themselves and their family.

In 2016 there shouldn't have to be food stamps, food banks, soup kitchens etc, that there is, this says that something is fundamentally wrong that so many people are failing in society.

Yep, and the cause is conservatism!

How can the cause be Conservatism?

The amount of Americans on food stamps was 27 million when GWB was President.

The amount of Americans on food stamps is now 42 million and you've had Obama as President since 2009. So during the Obama Presidency the number has nearly doubled.

Raw numbers do not tell the entire story ("there are lies, damn lies and statistics). BTW post a link to your numbers.

When it comes to statements like "there are more white people on food stamps than blacks", the raw numbers are the only things you Liberals care about. You choose to ignore proportions.

As for the numbers, should I post something showing the currently unemployment rate or are you going to accept it because Obama said that's what it is? Funny how you want something to back up a claim unless your guy says it.

Here are your numbers:

www.multpl.com/unemployment/table
Compare the 1/1/2006 to 1/1/2016 numbers.

www.fns.usda.gov/site/default/files/pd34SNAPmonthly.pdf

Scroll down to January, 2016. It's actually 44 million.

I'll be waiting on your next excuse.
 
Obama created over 10 million private sector jobs
We're number one on earth for natural gas and oil production.
His safetynet made it far easier for millions of Americans that would of otherwise suffered as their great grand parents did during the great depression.
Dow jones is over 18,000.

What kind of success do you have in mind? YOu do realize that the 19th century that you propose had only the super rich be the successful ones in most cases.

He did all that by himself?

There are still over 42 million on food stamps. Since that occurred during his presidency, are you going to blame him for it?

Did some checking on the numbers. When Bush had an unemployment rate of 4.9%, there were 27 million on food stamps. When Obama has the same rate of 4.9%, there are 42 million on food stamps. What's wrong. The black can't do any better than that?

"There are still over 42 million on food stamps."

In 2016 it's surely a disgrace and something to be ashamed about that so many people haven't the ability to feed themselves and their family.

In 2016 there shouldn't have to be food stamps, food banks, soup kitchens etc, that there is, this says that something is fundamentally wrong that so many people are failing in society.

What makes it worse is that Obama claims the unemployment rate is down. If more people are working, why are so many more, a 55% higher number than when Bush had the same unemployment rate, receiving them?

Possibly because many of those jobs are low paying? If they were paying a reasonable wage, there wouldn't be any need for people to have to get food stamps.

That's part of the problem. What solution do you propose?

I'm not a supporter of a Minimum Wage, I think a Living Wage would be better.
 
Who are you going to blame for your continued personal failures, lack of success, and social injustice overall?
Obama?

Obama created over 10 million private sector jobs
We're number one on earth for natural gas and oil production.
His safetynet made it far easier for millions of Americans that would of otherwise suffered as their great grand parents did during the great depression.
Dow jones is over 18,000.

What kind of success do you have in mind? YOu do realize that the 19th century that you propose had only the super rich be the successful ones in most cases.

He did all that by himself?

There are still over 42 million on food stamps. Since that occurred during his presidency, are you going to blame him for it?

Did some checking on the numbers. When Bush had an unemployment rate of 4.9%, there were 27 million on food stamps. When Obama has the same rate of 4.9%, there are 42 million on food stamps. What's wrong. The black can't do any better than that?

"There are still over 42 million on food stamps."

In 2016 it's surely a disgrace and something to be ashamed about that so many people haven't the ability to feed themselves and their family.

In 2016 there shouldn't have to be food stamps, food banks, soup kitchens etc, that there is, this says that something is fundamentally wrong that so many people are failing in society.

What makes it worse is that Obama claims the unemployment rate is down. If more people are working, why are so many more, a 55% higher number than when Bush had the same unemployment rate, receiving them?

LOL Why blame Obama? The Right Wing controls The Congress, many State Houses and until Justice Scalia died the Supreme Court, are they not culpable?

He and his supporters are the ones giving him credit for having created millions of jobs. Are you saying you're willing to give Congress and the state governments credit for having done that?

What you'll do is give credit to Obama for creating jobs then blame the Republicans for the high use of food stamps. Typical.
 
He did all that by himself?

There are still over 42 million on food stamps. Since that occurred during his presidency, are you going to blame him for it?

Did some checking on the numbers. When Bush had an unemployment rate of 4.9%, there were 27 million on food stamps. When Obama has the same rate of 4.9%, there are 42 million on food stamps. What's wrong. The black can't do any better than that?

"There are still over 42 million on food stamps."

In 2016 it's surely a disgrace and something to be ashamed about that so many people haven't the ability to feed themselves and their family.

In 2016 there shouldn't have to be food stamps, food banks, soup kitchens etc, that there is, this says that something is fundamentally wrong that so many people are failing in society.

What makes it worse is that Obama claims the unemployment rate is down. If more people are working, why are so many more, a 55% higher number than when Bush had the same unemployment rate, receiving them?

Possibly because many of those jobs are low paying? If they were paying a reasonable wage, there wouldn't be any need for people to have to get food stamps.

That's part of the problem. What solution do you propose?

I'm not a supporter of a Minimum Wage, I think a Living Wage would be better.

The concept of living wage is worse. Minimum wage already involves paying someone more than the skills they offer are worth in many cases. A living wage would pay even more for those low level skills.
 
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Who are you going to blame for your continued personal failures, lack of success, and social injustice overall?
Obama?

Obama created over 10 million private sector jobs
We're number one on earth for natural gas and oil production.
His safetynet made it far easier for millions of Americans that would of otherwise suffered as their great grand parents did during the great depression.
Dow jones is over 18,000.

What kind of success do you have in mind? YOu do realize that the 19th century that you propose had only the super rich be the successful ones in most cases.

He did all that by himself?

There are still over 42 million on food stamps. Since that occurred during his presidency, are you going to blame him for it?

Did some checking on the numbers. When Bush had an unemployment rate of 4.9%, there were 27 million on food stamps. When Obama has the same rate of 4.9%, there are 42 million on food stamps. What's wrong. The black can't do any better than that?

"There are still over 42 million on food stamps."

In 2016 it's surely a disgrace and something to be ashamed about that so many people haven't the ability to feed themselves and their family.

In 2016 there shouldn't have to be food stamps, food banks, soup kitchens etc, that there is, this says that something is fundamentally wrong that so many people are failing in society.

What makes it worse is that Obama claims the unemployment rate is down. If more people are working, why are so many more, a 55% higher number than when Bush had the same unemployment rate, receiving them?

Possibly because many of those jobs are low paying? If they were paying a reasonable wage, there wouldn't be any need for people to have to get food stamps.

In other words, the jobs Obama supporters give him credit for creating aren't worth a shit? That tells me they're willing to give him credit so the unemployment numbers can be attributed to him yet the jobs used to reach that level don't amount to anything worthwhile. That's like having a roofer come to your house and your roof still leaking after he's finished the job.
 
Obama created over 10 million private sector jobs
We're number one on earth for natural gas and oil production.
His safetynet made it far easier for millions of Americans that would of otherwise suffered as their great grand parents did during the great depression.
Dow jones is over 18,000.

What kind of success do you have in mind? YOu do realize that the 19th century that you propose had only the super rich be the successful ones in most cases.

He did all that by himself?

There are still over 42 million on food stamps. Since that occurred during his presidency, are you going to blame him for it?

Did some checking on the numbers. When Bush had an unemployment rate of 4.9%, there were 27 million on food stamps. When Obama has the same rate of 4.9%, there are 42 million on food stamps. What's wrong. The black can't do any better than that?

"There are still over 42 million on food stamps."

In 2016 it's surely a disgrace and something to be ashamed about that so many people haven't the ability to feed themselves and their family.

In 2016 there shouldn't have to be food stamps, food banks, soup kitchens etc, that there is, this says that something is fundamentally wrong that so many people are failing in society.

What makes it worse is that Obama claims the unemployment rate is down. If more people are working, why are so many more, a 55% higher number than when Bush had the same unemployment rate, receiving them?

Possibly because many of those jobs are low paying? If they were paying a reasonable wage, there wouldn't be any need for people to have to get food stamps.

That's part of the problem. What solution do you propose?

The problem is when people offer shitty skills they expect to be paid more than those skills are worth. The problem is when people offer shitty skills, they blame someone else for their low level skill set.

I propose that if someone offering low level skills is getting paid an equivalent wage to those skills yet they can't make it, you write them a check from your account. I did things to make sure I had the skills necessary to support me and my family. It's not my place to support anyone else because they didn't do the same.
 
"There are still over 42 million on food stamps."

In 2016 it's surely a disgrace and something to be ashamed about that so many people haven't the ability to feed themselves and their family.

In 2016 there shouldn't have to be food stamps, food banks, soup kitchens etc, that there is, this says that something is fundamentally wrong that so many people are failing in society.

What makes it worse is that Obama claims the unemployment rate is down. If more people are working, why are so many more, a 55% higher number than when Bush had the same unemployment rate, receiving them?

Possibly because many of those jobs are low paying? If they were paying a reasonable wage, there wouldn't be any need for people to have to get food stamps.

That's part of the problem. What solution do you propose?

I'm not a supporter of a Minimum Wage, I think a Living Wage would be better.

The concept of living wage is worse. Minimum wage already involves paying someone more than the skills they offer are worth in many cases. A living wage would pay even more for those low level skills.

So in your perfect world, the 1.00 an hour jobs in the third world would be commonplace in the US.
 
He did all that by himself?

There are still over 42 million on food stamps. Since that occurred during his presidency, are you going to blame him for it?

Did some checking on the numbers. When Bush had an unemployment rate of 4.9%, there were 27 million on food stamps. When Obama has the same rate of 4.9%, there are 42 million on food stamps. What's wrong. The black can't do any better than that?

"There are still over 42 million on food stamps."

In 2016 it's surely a disgrace and something to be ashamed about that so many people haven't the ability to feed themselves and their family.

In 2016 there shouldn't have to be food stamps, food banks, soup kitchens etc, that there is, this says that something is fundamentally wrong that so many people are failing in society.

Yep, and the cause is conservatism!

How can the cause be Conservatism?

The amount of Americans on food stamps was 27 million when GWB was President.

The amount of Americans on food stamps is now 42 million and you've had Obama as President since 2009. So during the Obama Presidency the number has nearly doubled.

Raw numbers do not tell the entire story ("there are lies, damn lies and statistics). BTW post a link to your numbers.

When it comes to statements like "there are more white people on food stamps than blacks", the raw numbers are the only things you Liberals care about. You choose to ignore proportions.

As for the numbers, should I post something showing the currently unemployment rate or are you going to accept it because Obama said that's what it is? Funny how you want something to back up a claim unless your guy says it.

Here are your numbers:

www.multpl.com/unemployment/table
Compare the 1/1/2006 to 1/1/2016 numbers.

www.fns.usda.gov/site/default/files/pd34SNAPmonthly.pdf

Scroll down to January, 2016. It's actually 44 million.

I'll be waiting on your next excuse.
He did all that by himself?

There are still over 42 million on food stamps. Since that occurred during his presidency, are you going to blame him for it?

Did some checking on the numbers. When Bush had an unemployment rate of 4.9%, there were 27 million on food stamps. When Obama has the same rate of 4.9%, there are 42 million on food stamps. What's wrong. The black can't do any better than that?

"There are still over 42 million on food stamps."

In 2016 it's surely a disgrace and something to be ashamed about that so many people haven't the ability to feed themselves and their family.

In 2016 there shouldn't have to be food stamps, food banks, soup kitchens etc, that there is, this says that something is fundamentally wrong that so many people are failing in society.

Yep, and the cause is conservatism!

How can the cause be Conservatism?

The amount of Americans on food stamps was 27 million when GWB was President.

The amount of Americans on food stamps is now 42 million and you've had Obama as President since 2009. So during the Obama Presidency the number has nearly doubled.

Raw numbers do not tell the entire story ("there are lies, damn lies and statistics). BTW post a link to your numbers.

When it comes to statements like "there are more white people on food stamps than blacks", the raw numbers are the only things you Liberals care about. You choose to ignore proportions.

As for the numbers, should I post something showing the currently unemployment rate or are you going to accept it because Obama said that's what it is? Funny how you want something to back up a claim unless your guy says it.

Here are your numbers:

www.multpl.com/unemployment/table
Compare the 1/1/2006 to 1/1/2016 numbers.

www.fns.usda.gov/site/default/files/pd34SNAPmonthly.pdf

Scroll down to January, 2016. It's actually 44 million.

I'll be waiting on your next excuse.

What is your solution?
 

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