So....how many posters do we have who have heard of this INCEL Movement?

[danielpalos]

your point? you allege people are willing to commit fraud but not get an id.

No, my point is that people are willing to commit fraud to get money.
And that homeless people cannot get an ID because they do not have an actual address.

Government must have solutions not excuses.

True. But the gov't must also protect the tax payer from fraud.

Yes, it will. There will be much less incentive to commit fraud since anyone needing an income can collect unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed or get a job to make as much as they want by simply being capitalistic and market friendly.

No it won't. The fraud will be committed. To think that just because someone makes $470 a week in benefits that they will not try for more is simply being naive or ignoring facts.

Yes, it will. Why would someone commit fraud if they could get a job, instead?

 

[danielpalos]

Hmmmm, got a link that that supposed "discussion". I review thousands of threads on this Board and have never come across anything even remotely like what you describe.

Did you see this one? SlutWalks Sweep The Nation

...thank goodness we don't have to put up with sluts "trolling for guys who may have an Urge", proclaiming equal work for equal pay! There is no way we are going to let guys "be abstinent enough to want to harass us", if we are ProActive."

We love being sluts just for this reason! For Good not the Bad!

On the one hand you demean "floozies", and on the other hand you love sluts. Interesting hypocrisy.

it is about Equality.

Jeez you are a creepy little fucker.

about equality? did you go to pre-judge instead of pre-med? we have a First Amendment. You need to be more than a hypocrite for me to value the subjective value of your morals.

 

[danielpalos]

employment is at the will of either party. we are talking about compensation for simply being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States.

Don't tell me, you are merely a hypocrite concerning illegals.

And if they are simply unemployed through not fault of their own, they can get unemployment compensation. If they quit or are fired for willfully doing something they new was against the law or the company rules, they cannot draw unemployment compensation. They are responsible for their choices.

The State law is employment at the will of either party. Equal protection of that law which defines employment relationships within the police power of a State, is what is required.

Indeed it does. But equal protection under the law does not entitle you to continue to get paid after you voluntarily quit your job.

Yes, it does. That Is employment at the will of either party. Why do You require a work ethic? Are you a priest or moral authority?

No it does not.

I don't require a work ethic. But if you want money you need one.

I do, however, require that you live with the consequences of your own choices.

For many people taxes cause a hardship. But you want to raise them.

lol. Poverty is worse. You simply don't know what you are talking about, story teller.

 

[westwall]

No, my point is that people are willing to commit fraud to get money.
And that homeless people cannot get an ID because they do not have an actual address.

Government must have solutions not excuses.

True. But the gov't must also protect the tax payer from fraud.

Yes, it will. There will be much less incentive to commit fraud since anyone needing an income can collect unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed or get a job to make as much as they want by simply being capitalistic and market friendly.

No it won't. The fraud will be committed. To think that just because someone makes $470 a week in benefits that they will not try for more is simply being naive or ignoring facts.

Yes, it will. Why would someone commit fraud if they could get a job, instead?

Because it's easier to commit fraud in most cases. Duh.

 

[danielpalos]

Government must have solutions not excuses.

True. But the gov't must also protect the tax payer from fraud.

Yes, it will. There will be much less incentive to commit fraud since anyone needing an income can collect unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed or get a job to make as much as they want by simply being capitalistic and market friendly.

No it won't. The fraud will be committed. To think that just because someone makes $470 a week in benefits that they will not try for more is simply being naive or ignoring facts.

Yes, it will. Why would someone commit fraud if they could get a job, instead?

Because it's easier to commit fraud in most cases. Duh.

it isn't in this Case, duh.

they could merely apply for unemployment compensation or get a job.

 

[WinterBorn]

No, my point is that people are willing to commit fraud to get money.
And that homeless people cannot get an ID because they do not have an actual address.

Government must have solutions not excuses.

True. But the gov't must also protect the tax payer from fraud.

Yes, it will. There will be much less incentive to commit fraud since anyone needing an income can collect unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed or get a job to make as much as they want by simply being capitalistic and market friendly.

No it won't. The fraud will be committed. To think that just because someone makes $470 a week in benefits that they will not try for more is simply being naive or ignoring facts.

Yes, it will. Why would someone commit fraud if they could get a job, instead?

Because they can have a job and still commit fraud. They want more.

 

[emilynghiem]

Involuntary Celibate males? The driver in Toronto was one....we had one kill many people in CA recently too. (no, I will not put out their names...they are just scum) What's up with this? Guys who can't get laid have a movement....cheer on violence against women....against "Chad" and "Stacy" (regular people with regular relationships)....what's up with that?

It seems that this new modern society breeds more and more incompetent people. They can't get laid, nor can they figure out how to make themselves appealing so they lash out like the spoiled brats they are. A true shame but that is one of the results that an undeserved sense of entitlement breeds.

Agree, it's yet another mutation of the "victim mentality" beast.
The Media plays on this. As long as people take the "victim/hate" bait,
rating and click-on advertisers will exploit the publicity it drives.

 

[WinterBorn]

And if they are simply unemployed through not fault of their own, they can get unemployment compensation. If they quit or are fired for willfully doing something they new was against the law or the company rules, they cannot draw unemployment compensation. They are responsible for their choices.

The State law is employment at the will of either party. Equal protection of that law which defines employment relationships within the police power of a State, is what is required.

Indeed it does. But equal protection under the law does not entitle you to continue to get paid after you voluntarily quit your job.

Yes, it does. That Is employment at the will of either party. Why do You require a work ethic? Are you a priest or moral authority?

No it does not.

I don't require a work ethic. But if you want money you need one.

I do, however, require that you live with the consequences of your own choices.

For many people taxes cause a hardship. But you want to raise them.

lol. Poverty is worse. You simply don't know what you are talking about, story teller.

I know full well what I am talking about. Many years ago, when I was young, I was homeless for a brief period. I was also on a couple of gov't programs when I went to college (I had 3 kids and a sick wife).

I didn't live with my Mom. I needed the assistance. You just want it so you can do fun things.

 

[WinterBorn]

True. But the gov't must also protect the tax payer from fraud.

Yes, it will. There will be much less incentive to commit fraud since anyone needing an income can collect unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed or get a job to make as much as they want by simply being capitalistic and market friendly.

No it won't. The fraud will be committed. To think that just because someone makes $470 a week in benefits that they will not try for more is simply being naive or ignoring facts.

Yes, it will. Why would someone commit fraud if they could get a job, instead?

Because it's easier to commit fraud in most cases. Duh.

it isn't in this Case, duh.

they could merely apply for unemployment compensation or get a job.

Or both. With no means testing, it would be fairly easy.

 

[westwall]

True. But the gov't must also protect the tax payer from fraud.

Yes, it will. There will be much less incentive to commit fraud since anyone needing an income can collect unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed or get a job to make as much as they want by simply being capitalistic and market friendly.

No it won't. The fraud will be committed. To think that just because someone makes $470 a week in benefits that they will not try for more is simply being naive or ignoring facts.

Yes, it will. Why would someone commit fraud if they could get a job, instead?

Because it's easier to commit fraud in most cases. Duh.

it isn't in this Case, duh.

they could merely apply for unemployment compensation or get a job.

Sure it is. Medicare is going bankrupt because of the amount of fraud being committed against it. That is easily researched.

I suggest you do some before you make an even bigger fool of yourself.

 

[danielpalos]

Government must have solutions not excuses.

True. But the gov't must also protect the tax payer from fraud.

Yes, it will. There will be much less incentive to commit fraud since anyone needing an income can collect unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed or get a job to make as much as they want by simply being capitalistic and market friendly.

No it won't. The fraud will be committed. To think that just because someone makes $470 a week in benefits that they will not try for more is simply being naive or ignoring facts.

Yes, it will. Why would someone commit fraud if they could get a job, instead?

Because they can have a job and still commit fraud. They want more.

won't be much of a problem if they may face fines and potential jail time.

it will solve our homeless problem in a market friendly manner. this is an issue, especially in big cities where this will help out the most.

 

[danielpalos]

The State law is employment at the will of either party. Equal protection of that law which defines employment relationships within the police power of a State, is what is required.

Indeed it does. But equal protection under the law does not entitle you to continue to get paid after you voluntarily quit your job.

Yes, it does. That Is employment at the will of either party. Why do You require a work ethic? Are you a priest or moral authority?

No it does not.

I don't require a work ethic. But if you want money you need one.

I do, however, require that you live with the consequences of your own choices.

For many people taxes cause a hardship. But you want to raise them.

lol. Poverty is worse. You simply don't know what you are talking about, story teller.

I know full well what I am talking about. Many years ago, when I was young, I was homeless for a brief period. I was also on a couple of gov't programs when I went to college (I had 3 kids and a sick wife).

I didn't live with my Mom. I needed the assistance. You just want it so you can do fun things.

Employment is at the will of either party, not Your subjective moral values.

That is the law. Enforce the law.

 

[danielpalos]

Yes, it will. There will be much less incentive to commit fraud since anyone needing an income can collect unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed or get a job to make as much as they want by simply being capitalistic and market friendly.

No it won't. The fraud will be committed. To think that just because someone makes $470 a week in benefits that they will not try for more is simply being naive or ignoring facts.

Yes, it will. Why would someone commit fraud if they could get a job, instead?

Because it's easier to commit fraud in most cases. Duh.

it isn't in this Case, duh.

they could merely apply for unemployment compensation or get a job.

Or both. With no means testing, it would be fairly easy.

you are employed or not. why bother if you are employed?

why don't you commit fraud now?

 

[danielpalos]

Yes, it will. There will be much less incentive to commit fraud since anyone needing an income can collect unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed or get a job to make as much as they want by simply being capitalistic and market friendly.

No it won't. The fraud will be committed. To think that just because someone makes $470 a week in benefits that they will not try for more is simply being naive or ignoring facts.

Yes, it will. Why would someone commit fraud if they could get a job, instead?

Because it's easier to commit fraud in most cases. Duh.

it isn't in this Case, duh.

they could merely apply for unemployment compensation or get a job.

Sure it is. Medicare is going bankrupt because of the amount of fraud being committed against it. That is easily researched.

I suggest you do some before you make an even bigger fool of yourself.

apples and oranges. capitalism has a natural rate of unemployment that will be corrected for via socialism, that is all.

 

[Blues Man]

Go to NV and get laid

Nevada's Legal Brothels - Nevada Brothel Association

 

[WinterBorn]

True. But the gov't must also protect the tax payer from fraud.

Yes, it will. There will be much less incentive to commit fraud since anyone needing an income can collect unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed or get a job to make as much as they want by simply being capitalistic and market friendly.

No it won't. The fraud will be committed. To think that just because someone makes $470 a week in benefits that they will not try for more is simply being naive or ignoring facts.

Yes, it will. Why would someone commit fraud if they could get a job, instead?

Because they can have a job and still commit fraud. They want more.

won't be much of a problem if they may face fines and potential jail time.

it will solve our homeless problem in a market friendly manner. this is an issue, especially in big cities where this will help out the most.

No, it will not solve the homeless problem. At first you were simply ignorant of the reasons why it won't. But now that it has been explained, you are simply lying.

1) Where does the unemployment office mail the check?
2) How does a homeless person get a state ID? No address means no ID. Which means a check is of no use.
3) Where do they put the money they get? Cash in their pocket? No bank will open an account without an address.
4) How will those with substance abuse and mental problems get help before they are handed $2,000.00 a month? Otherwise you are doing more harm than good.

 

[WinterBorn]

Indeed it does. But equal protection under the law does not entitle you to continue to get paid after you voluntarily quit your job.

Yes, it does. That Is employment at the will of either party. Why do You require a work ethic? Are you a priest or moral authority?

No it does not.

I don't require a work ethic. But if you want money you need one.

I do, however, require that you live with the consequences of your own choices.

For many people taxes cause a hardship. But you want to raise them.

lol. Poverty is worse. You simply don't know what you are talking about, story teller.

I know full well what I am talking about. Many years ago, when I was young, I was homeless for a brief period. I was also on a couple of gov't programs when I went to college (I had 3 kids and a sick wife).

I didn't live with my Mom. I needed the assistance. You just want it so you can do fun things.

Employment is at the will of either party, not Your subjective moral values.

That is the law. Enforce the law.

My morality has nothing to do with it. If you make a choice to quit your job, you don't continue to get paid. That is not equality under the law. You would be getting your freedom and what you want, but the employer would not.

 

[WinterBorn]

No it won't. The fraud will be committed. To think that just because someone makes $470 a week in benefits that they will not try for more is simply being naive or ignoring facts.

Yes, it will. Why would someone commit fraud if they could get a job, instead?

Because it's easier to commit fraud in most cases. Duh.

it isn't in this Case, duh.

they could merely apply for unemployment compensation or get a job.

Or both. With no means testing, it would be fairly easy.

you are employed or not. why bother if you are employed?

why don't you commit fraud now?

For the same reasons I don't commit other crimes. I am a law abiding citizen and have personal morals and standards.

 

[danielpalos]

Go to NV and get laid

Nevada's Legal Brothels - Nevada Brothel Association

it is more about equality, for free.

i feel fat, should get gangs of athletic chics wanting to "help us increase our metabolism."

 

[danielpalos]

Yes, it will. There will be much less incentive to commit fraud since anyone needing an income can collect unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed or get a job to make as much as they want by simply being capitalistic and market friendly.

No it won't. The fraud will be committed. To think that just because someone makes $470 a week in benefits that they will not try for more is simply being naive or ignoring facts.

Yes, it will. Why would someone commit fraud if they could get a job, instead?

Because they can have a job and still commit fraud. They want more.

won't be much of a problem if they may face fines and potential jail time.

it will solve our homeless problem in a market friendly manner. this is an issue, especially in big cities where this will help out the most.

No, it will not solve the homeless problem. At first you were simply ignorant of the reasons why it won't. But now that it has been explained, you are simply lying.

Yes, it will. All they need is an income under capitalism.