So....how many posters do we have who have heard of this INCEL Movement?

[danielpalos]

anybody with an income can setup at mail boxes etcetera.

And why would anyone spend such a substantial part of their income to pay for the admin costs of a gov't program?

to be market friendly. that is the goal under Capitalism.

The goal under Capitalism is to make profits. Those profits are already market friendly.

Someone spending thousands of dollars of their own money to satisfy a new system that will allow people who choose not to work is not market friendly.

Market friendly involves two things. First, circulation of capital. You have that part. But it also involves each person producing something, in the form of either goods or services. You willfully ignore that part.

employment is at the will of either party. we are talking about compensation for simply being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States.

Don't tell me, you are merely a hypocrite concerning illegals.

And if they are simply unemployed through not fault of their own, they can get unemployment compensation. If they quit or are fired for willfully doing something they new was against the law or the company rules, they cannot draw unemployment compensation. They are responsible for their choices.

The State law is employment at the will of either party. Equal protection of that law which defines employment relationships within the police power of a State, is what is required.

 

[WinterBorn]

Why must it be? Because you want it to be?

The means testing is only verified in 10% of the cases or less. That means 90% or more are simply requiring the applicant to fill out forms. That costs little to nothing.

I understand that you are happy to lie and slant things towards what you want.

lol. simply Because, means testing has nothing to do with economics.

Never said it did. It has to do with preventing fraud. The program is meant to help people who need help.

some people are merely unemployed. equal protection of the law is what they need.

I thought you said they "opted out" of working?

Merely unemployed? Through no fault of their own? Great! They can collect unemployment compensation for around 6 months. More if unemployment is high.

The law is employment at the will of either party, not limited by the State.

Absolutely correct.

But, once again, what you posted has no bearing on what you quoted.

 

[danielpalos]

I stumbled across a thread on this board a few months ago wherein several posters were bitch whining about their inability to get laid. They blamed “feminist bitches” for this problem.

I suggested they join social groups of people with common interests, get to know some of the women, build friendship which would lead to relationships. It quickly became apparent why these asshats weren’t getting laid.

They had no interest in socializing with women, or getting to know them, or building relationships. They didn’t even like women. They just wanted them to lay down and spread their legs.

At the same time, they referred to women who are having sex with other men as “sluts” and “whores”. I don’t know of any women willing to have sex with misogynistic assholes like these guys either, except for hookers. But you know they don’t want to or can’t afford to pay for it.

A classic case of entitled assholes who refuse to see that the source of their problem is looking right at them every morning in their bathroom mirrors.

Hmmmm, got a link that that supposed "discussion". I review thousands of threads on this Board and have never come across anything even remotely like what you describe.

Did you see this one? SlutWalks Sweep The Nation

...thank goodness we don't have to put up with sluts "trolling for guys who may have an Urge", proclaiming equal work for equal pay! There is no way we are going to let guys "be abstinent enough to want to harass us, if we are ProActive."

We love being sluts just for this reason! For Good not the Bad!

 

[WinterBorn]

There are numerous reasons, as we have been through before. But a large majority of homeless have addiction and/or mental health issues. Which you refuse to acknowledge.

anyone with an income can be treated in a market friendly manner.

So you think $470 a week will pay rent, utilities, groceries, AND pay for healthcare with a serious pre-existing condition? You're dreaming.

means testing would be available for someone for whom solving for a simple poverty of money, may not be enough.

Means testing is mandatory for anyone who doesn't qualify for unemployment compensation and needs money. It is part of the fraud prevention for gov't programs to help people.

In an at-will employment State, a person merely need be unemployed on an at-will basis. EDD must prove for-cause employment to deny or disparage unemployment compensation for being unemployed on an at-will basis in at at-will employment State.

No. Unemployment compensation is not meant to pay people who opted out of working. It is temporary assistance for people who lost their through no fault of their own.

If you choose to quit your job, you live with the consequences of your choice. If you choose to break the law or the company rules, you live with the consequences of your choice.

 

[WinterBorn]

Mailboxes Ect?? LMAO!! Are you daft? YOu want a monumental program, such as replacing welfare with unemployment compensation, to happen at Mailboxes Ect?? No, it could not be setup there.

they could receive their checks in the mail, there.

They could?

Here is what the website for Mailboxes Ect says about how to get a mailbox:
"Renting your virtual mailbox can get done in 4 easy steps:

• first, you need to choose a plan and mailbox address, you can get yours today for as little as $9.95 per month.
• Then you’ll need to fill out a USPS Form 1583 which is a postal consent form authorizing a third party to receive and handle your mail.
• When done, have the form notarized and send it to PostScan Mail with two forms of ID. Once your account is set up, you can start receiving mail regularly.
• You’ll need to apply for a change of address to have your mailing address updated with your new mailbox which can be done online for $1 at USPS.com."

Plus, they cost between $20 and $25 each. So either the person would get $445 a week or you expect the gov't to pay $11 million to rent the mailboxes. That $11 million could do a lot more to help the 553,000 homeless people in the US.

Besides, you have to have two forms of ID.

your point? you allege people are willing to commit fraud but not get an id.

No, my point is that people are willing to commit fraud to get money.
And that homeless people cannot get an ID because they do not have an actual address.

Government must have solutions not excuses.

True. But the gov't must also protect the tax payer from fraud.

 

[WinterBorn]

And why would anyone spend such a substantial part of their income to pay for the admin costs of a gov't program?

to be market friendly. that is the goal under Capitalism.

The goal under Capitalism is to make profits. Those profits are already market friendly.

Someone spending thousands of dollars of their own money to satisfy a new system that will allow people who choose not to work is not market friendly.

Market friendly involves two things. First, circulation of capital. You have that part. But it also involves each person producing something, in the form of either goods or services. You willfully ignore that part.

employment is at the will of either party. we are talking about compensation for simply being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States.

Don't tell me, you are merely a hypocrite concerning illegals.

And if they are simply unemployed through not fault of their own, they can get unemployment compensation. If they quit or are fired for willfully doing something they new was against the law or the company rules, they cannot draw unemployment compensation. They are responsible for their choices.

The State law is employment at the will of either party. Equal protection of that law which defines employment relationships within the police power of a State, is what is required.

Indeed it does. But equal protection under the law does not entitle you to continue to get paid after you voluntarily quit your job.

 

[WinterBorn]

I stumbled across a thread on this board a few months ago wherein several posters were bitch whining about their inability to get laid. They blamed “feminist bitches” for this problem.

I suggested they join social groups of people with common interests, get to know some of the women, build friendship which would lead to relationships. It quickly became apparent why these asshats weren’t getting laid.

They had no interest in socializing with women, or getting to know them, or building relationships. They didn’t even like women. They just wanted them to lay down and spread their legs.

At the same time, they referred to women who are having sex with other men as “sluts” and “whores”. I don’t know of any women willing to have sex with misogynistic assholes like these guys either, except for hookers. But you know they don’t want to or can’t afford to pay for it.

A classic case of entitled assholes who refuse to see that the source of their problem is looking right at them every morning in their bathroom mirrors.

Hmmmm, got a link that that supposed "discussion". I review thousands of threads on this Board and have never come across anything even remotely like what you describe.

Did you see this one? SlutWalks Sweep The Nation

...thank goodness we don't have to put up with sluts "trolling for guys who may have an Urge", proclaiming equal work for equal pay! There is no way we are going to let guys "be abstinent enough to want to harass us", if we are ProActive."

We love being sluts just for this reason! For Good not the Bad!

On the one hand you demean "floozies", and on the other hand you love sluts. Interesting hypocrisy.

 

[danielpalos]

lol. simply Because, means testing has nothing to do with economics.

Never said it did. It has to do with preventing fraud. The program is meant to help people who need help.

some people are merely unemployed. equal protection of the law is what they need.

I thought you said they "opted out" of working?

Merely unemployed? Through no fault of their own? Great! They can collect unemployment compensation for around 6 months. More if unemployment is high.

The law is employment at the will of either party, not limited by the State.

Absolutely correct.

But, once again, what you posted has no bearing on what you quoted.

i must be right.

 

[beautress]

I stumbled across a thread on this board a few months ago wherein several posters were bitch whining about their inability to get laid. They blamed “feminist bitches” for this problem.

I suggested they join social groups of people with common interests, get to know some of the women, build friendship which would lead to relationships. It quickly became apparent why these asshats weren’t getting laid.

They had no interest in socializing with women, or getting to know them, or building relationships. They didn’t even like women. They just wanted them to lay down and spread their legs.

At the same time, they referred to women who are having sex with other men as “sluts” and “whores”. I don’t know of any women willing to have sex with misogynistic assholes like these guys either, except for hookers. But you know they don’t want to or can’t afford to pay for it.

A classic case of entitled assholes who refuse to see that the source of their problem is looking right at them every morning in their bathroom mirrors.

Hmmmm, got a link that that supposed "discussion". I review thousands of threads on this Board and have never come across anything even remotely like what you describe.

Did you see this one? SlutWalks Sweep The Nation

...thank goodness we don't have to put up with sluts "trolling for guys who may have an Urge", proclaiming equal work for equal pay! There is no way we are going to let guys "be abstinent enough to want to harass us", if we are ProActive."

We love being sluts just for this reason! For Good not the Bad!

So you're a girlie slut? Who'd a thunk it, Daniella.

 

[danielpalos]

anyone with an income can be treated in a market friendly manner.

So you think $470 a week will pay rent, utilities, groceries, AND pay for healthcare with a serious pre-existing condition? You're dreaming.

means testing would be available for someone for whom solving for a simple poverty of money, may not be enough.

Means testing is mandatory for anyone who doesn't qualify for unemployment compensation and needs money. It is part of the fraud prevention for gov't programs to help people.

In an at-will employment State, a person merely need be unemployed on an at-will basis. EDD must prove for-cause employment to deny or disparage unemployment compensation for being unemployed on an at-will basis in at at-will employment State.

No. Unemployment compensation is not meant to pay people who opted out of working. It is temporary assistance for people who lost their through no fault of their own.

If you choose to quit your job, you live with the consequences of your choice. If you choose to break the law or the company rules, you live with the consequences of your choice.

Equal protection of the law will solve simple poverty in that market friendly manner. All we need do is change the ways and means of collecting that revenue. A general tax is better and will reduce costs for the private sector.

 

[WinterBorn]

Never said it did. It has to do with preventing fraud. The program is meant to help people who need help.

some people are merely unemployed. equal protection of the law is what they need.

I thought you said they "opted out" of working?

Merely unemployed? Through no fault of their own? Great! They can collect unemployment compensation for around 6 months. More if unemployment is high.

The law is employment at the will of either party, not limited by the State.

Absolutely correct.

But, once again, what you posted has no bearing on what you quoted.

i must be right.

Yes, you are right that employment is at the will of either party.

 

[danielpalos]

they could receive their checks in the mail, there.

They could?

Here is what the website for Mailboxes Ect says about how to get a mailbox:
"Renting your virtual mailbox can get done in 4 easy steps:

• first, you need to choose a plan and mailbox address, you can get yours today for as little as $9.95 per month.
• Then you’ll need to fill out a USPS Form 1583 which is a postal consent form authorizing a third party to receive and handle your mail.
• When done, have the form notarized and send it to PostScan Mail with two forms of ID. Once your account is set up, you can start receiving mail regularly.
• You’ll need to apply for a change of address to have your mailing address updated with your new mailbox which can be done online for $1 at USPS.com."

Plus, they cost between $20 and $25 each. So either the person would get $445 a week or you expect the gov't to pay $11 million to rent the mailboxes. That $11 million could do a lot more to help the 553,000 homeless people in the US.

Besides, you have to have two forms of ID.

your point? you allege people are willing to commit fraud but not get an id.

No, my point is that people are willing to commit fraud to get money.
And that homeless people cannot get an ID because they do not have an actual address.

Government must have solutions not excuses.

True. But the gov't must also protect the tax payer from fraud.

Yes, it will. There will be much less incentive to commit fraud since anyone needing an income can collect unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed or get a job to make as much as they want by simply being capitalistic and market friendly.

 

[beautress]

they could receive their checks in the mail, there.

They could?

Here is what the website for Mailboxes Ect says about how to get a mailbox:
"Renting your virtual mailbox can get done in 4 easy steps:

• first, you need to choose a plan and mailbox address, you can get yours today for as little as $9.95 per month.
• Then you’ll need to fill out a USPS Form 1583 which is a postal consent form authorizing a third party to receive and handle your mail.
• When done, have the form notarized and send it to PostScan Mail with two forms of ID. Once your account is set up, you can start receiving mail regularly.
• You’ll need to apply for a change of address to have your mailing address updated with your new mailbox which can be done online for $1 at USPS.com."

Plus, they cost between $20 and $25 each. So either the person would get $445 a week or you expect the gov't to pay $11 million to rent the mailboxes. That $11 million could do a lot more to help the 553,000 homeless people in the US.

Besides, you have to have two forms of ID.

your point? you allege people are willing to commit fraud but not get an id.

No, my point is that people are willing to commit fraud to get money.
And that homeless people cannot get an ID because they do not have an actual address.

Government must have solutions not excuses.

True. But the gov't must also protect the tax payer from fraud.

The Obama administration was a total fraud and they committed fraud and dabbled in fraudulent deals that made themselves millionaires on the side for threatening foreign government for personal money like Uncle Joe did when he threatened to ruin another government if his son didn't get a billion dollar job out of it.

 

[WinterBorn]

So you think $470 a week will pay rent, utilities, groceries, AND pay for healthcare with a serious pre-existing condition? You're dreaming.

means testing would be available for someone for whom solving for a simple poverty of money, may not be enough.

Means testing is mandatory for anyone who doesn't qualify for unemployment compensation and needs money. It is part of the fraud prevention for gov't programs to help people.

In an at-will employment State, a person merely need be unemployed on an at-will basis. EDD must prove for-cause employment to deny or disparage unemployment compensation for being unemployed on an at-will basis in at at-will employment State.

No. Unemployment compensation is not meant to pay people who opted out of working. It is temporary assistance for people who lost their through no fault of their own.

If you choose to quit your job, you live with the consequences of your choice. If you choose to break the law or the company rules, you live with the consequences of your choice.

Equal protection of the law will solve simple poverty in that market friendly manner. All we need do is change the ways and means of collecting that revenue. A general tax is better and will reduce costs for the private sector.

Equal protection under the law is already present.

And no, it would not solve simple poverty. And no, it is not market friendly to take money from a person who earns it and produces for the market and giving it to another person who produces nothing and does not earn it. The capital will circulate in either case, so the production of the person is the deciding factor.

 

[danielpalos]

to be market friendly. that is the goal under Capitalism.

The goal under Capitalism is to make profits. Those profits are already market friendly.

Someone spending thousands of dollars of their own money to satisfy a new system that will allow people who choose not to work is not market friendly.

Market friendly involves two things. First, circulation of capital. You have that part. But it also involves each person producing something, in the form of either goods or services. You willfully ignore that part.

employment is at the will of either party. we are talking about compensation for simply being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States.

Don't tell me, you are merely a hypocrite concerning illegals.

And if they are simply unemployed through not fault of their own, they can get unemployment compensation. If they quit or are fired for willfully doing something they new was against the law or the company rules, they cannot draw unemployment compensation. They are responsible for their choices.

The State law is employment at the will of either party. Equal protection of that law which defines employment relationships within the police power of a State, is what is required.

Indeed it does. But equal protection under the law does not entitle you to continue to get paid after you voluntarily quit your job.

Yes, it does. That Is employment at the will of either party. Why do You require a work ethic? Are you a priest or moral authority?

 

[danielpalos]

I stumbled across a thread on this board a few months ago wherein several posters were bitch whining about their inability to get laid. They blamed “feminist bitches” for this problem.

I suggested they join social groups of people with common interests, get to know some of the women, build friendship which would lead to relationships. It quickly became apparent why these asshats weren’t getting laid.

They had no interest in socializing with women, or getting to know them, or building relationships. They didn’t even like women. They just wanted them to lay down and spread their legs.

At the same time, they referred to women who are having sex with other men as “sluts” and “whores”. I don’t know of any women willing to have sex with misogynistic assholes like these guys either, except for hookers. But you know they don’t want to or can’t afford to pay for it.

A classic case of entitled assholes who refuse to see that the source of their problem is looking right at them every morning in their bathroom mirrors.

Hmmmm, got a link that that supposed "discussion". I review thousands of threads on this Board and have never come across anything even remotely like what you describe.

Did you see this one? SlutWalks Sweep The Nation

...thank goodness we don't have to put up with sluts "trolling for guys who may have an Urge", proclaiming equal work for equal pay! There is no way we are going to let guys "be abstinent enough to want to harass us", if we are ProActive."

We love being sluts just for this reason! For Good not the Bad!

On the one hand you demean "floozies", and on the other hand you love sluts. Interesting hypocrisy.

it is about Equality.

 

[danielpalos]

I stumbled across a thread on this board a few months ago wherein several posters were bitch whining about their inability to get laid. They blamed “feminist bitches” for this problem.

I suggested they join social groups of people with common interests, get to know some of the women, build friendship which would lead to relationships. It quickly became apparent why these asshats weren’t getting laid.

They had no interest in socializing with women, or getting to know them, or building relationships. They didn’t even like women. They just wanted them to lay down and spread their legs.

At the same time, they referred to women who are having sex with other men as “sluts” and “whores”. I don’t know of any women willing to have sex with misogynistic assholes like these guys either, except for hookers. But you know they don’t want to or can’t afford to pay for it.

A classic case of entitled assholes who refuse to see that the source of their problem is looking right at them every morning in their bathroom mirrors.

Hmmmm, got a link that that supposed "discussion". I review thousands of threads on this Board and have never come across anything even remotely like what you describe.

Did you see this one? SlutWalks Sweep The Nation

...thank goodness we don't have to put up with sluts "trolling for guys who may have an Urge", proclaiming equal work for equal pay! There is no way we are going to let guys "be abstinent enough to want to harass us", if we are ProActive."

We love being sluts just for this reason! For Good not the Bad!

So you're a girlie slut? Who'd a thunk it, Daniella.

Equal pay for equal work!

I feel fat.

 

[WinterBorn]

They could?

Here is what the website for Mailboxes Ect says about how to get a mailbox:
"Renting your virtual mailbox can get done in 4 easy steps:

• first, you need to choose a plan and mailbox address, you can get yours today for as little as $9.95 per month.
• Then you’ll need to fill out a USPS Form 1583 which is a postal consent form authorizing a third party to receive and handle your mail.
• When done, have the form notarized and send it to PostScan Mail with two forms of ID. Once your account is set up, you can start receiving mail regularly.
• You’ll need to apply for a change of address to have your mailing address updated with your new mailbox which can be done online for $1 at USPS.com."

Plus, they cost between $20 and $25 each. So either the person would get $445 a week or you expect the gov't to pay $11 million to rent the mailboxes. That $11 million could do a lot more to help the 553,000 homeless people in the US.

Besides, you have to have two forms of ID.

your point? you allege people are willing to commit fraud but not get an id.

No, my point is that people are willing to commit fraud to get money.
And that homeless people cannot get an ID because they do not have an actual address.

Government must have solutions not excuses.

True. But the gov't must also protect the tax payer from fraud.

Yes, it will. There will be much less incentive to commit fraud since anyone needing an income can collect unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed or get a job to make as much as they want by simply being capitalistic and market friendly.

No it won't. The fraud will be committed. To think that just because someone makes $470 a week in benefits that they will not try for more is simply being naive or ignoring facts.

 

[WinterBorn]

I stumbled across a thread on this board a few months ago wherein several posters were bitch whining about their inability to get laid. They blamed “feminist bitches” for this problem.

I suggested they join social groups of people with common interests, get to know some of the women, build friendship which would lead to relationships. It quickly became apparent why these asshats weren’t getting laid.

They had no interest in socializing with women, or getting to know them, or building relationships. They didn’t even like women. They just wanted them to lay down and spread their legs.

At the same time, they referred to women who are having sex with other men as “sluts” and “whores”. I don’t know of any women willing to have sex with misogynistic assholes like these guys either, except for hookers. But you know they don’t want to or can’t afford to pay for it.

A classic case of entitled assholes who refuse to see that the source of their problem is looking right at them every morning in their bathroom mirrors.

Hmmmm, got a link that that supposed "discussion". I review thousands of threads on this Board and have never come across anything even remotely like what you describe.

Did you see this one? SlutWalks Sweep The Nation

...thank goodness we don't have to put up with sluts "trolling for guys who may have an Urge", proclaiming equal work for equal pay! There is no way we are going to let guys "be abstinent enough to want to harass us", if we are ProActive."

We love being sluts just for this reason! For Good not the Bad!

On the one hand you demean "floozies", and on the other hand you love sluts. Interesting hypocrisy.

it is about Equality.

Jeez you are a creepy little fucker.

 

[WinterBorn]

The goal under Capitalism is to make profits. Those profits are already market friendly.

Someone spending thousands of dollars of their own money to satisfy a new system that will allow people who choose not to work is not market friendly.

Market friendly involves two things. First, circulation of capital. You have that part. But it also involves each person producing something, in the form of either goods or services. You willfully ignore that part.

employment is at the will of either party. we are talking about compensation for simply being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States.

Don't tell me, you are merely a hypocrite concerning illegals.

And if they are simply unemployed through not fault of their own, they can get unemployment compensation. If they quit or are fired for willfully doing something they new was against the law or the company rules, they cannot draw unemployment compensation. They are responsible for their choices.

The State law is employment at the will of either party. Equal protection of that law which defines employment relationships within the police power of a State, is what is required.

Indeed it does. But equal protection under the law does not entitle you to continue to get paid after you voluntarily quit your job.

Yes, it does. That Is employment at the will of either party. Why do You require a work ethic? Are you a priest or moral authority?

No it does not.

I don't require a work ethic. But if you want money you need one.

I do, however, require that you live with the consequences of your own choices.

For many people taxes cause a hardship. But you want to raise them.